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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 21 2014 00:47 GMT
#5001
On September 21 2014 09:44 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2014 09:43 Dodgin wrote:
On September 21 2014 09:42 IntoTheheart wrote:
On September 21 2014 09:41 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On September 21 2014 09:41 IntoTheheart wrote:
I couldn't watch it. How was Polt v. Scarlett?


I am no longer a scarlett fan, that should tell you something


So basically, my priorities became
watch games > my current priorities.


there was no naniwa level drama if that's what you're expecting


I wasn't expecting THAT, but honestly if any Korean would retire a foreigner completely out of SC2, it would be Polt.


Polt's looking for a triple kill of big name foreigners, watch out everyone.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
September 21 2014 00:47 GMT
#5002
On September 21 2014 09:45 argonautdice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2014 09:44 TheDwf wrote:
On September 21 2014 09:44 argonautdice wrote:
lol so Scarlett messed up but it's ok. The group was brutal, she can prepare well for WCS America and be back on top again!

Don't see her winning Heart with that kind of play. /:

She's got a couple weeks to recover practice and prepare, it's all good


Heart has just as long to study all these games Scarlett just lost to Terran. He'll 3-0, I bet
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
September 21 2014 00:47 GMT
#5003
Why does this loss feel so shitty. I'm happy Polt made it but goddammit Scarlett's never gonna make it to a gold. So frustrating, I'm just, ugh...

By the way I don't get home till like 12:30 so I'm not doing the thread tomorrow.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
September 21 2014 00:48 GMT
#5004
On September 21 2014 09:47 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2014 09:44 IntoTheheart wrote:
On September 21 2014 09:43 Dodgin wrote:
On September 21 2014 09:42 IntoTheheart wrote:
On September 21 2014 09:41 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On September 21 2014 09:41 IntoTheheart wrote:
I couldn't watch it. How was Polt v. Scarlett?


I am no longer a scarlett fan, that should tell you something


So basically, my priorities became
watch games > my current priorities.


there was no naniwa level drama if that's what you're expecting


I wasn't expecting THAT, but honestly if any Korean would retire a foreigner completely out of SC2, it would be Polt.


Polt's looking for a triple kill of big name foreigners, watch out everyone.


Who else would be on that roster that we have to watch out for, Snute?
kiss kiss fall in love
SlammerIV
Profile Joined December 2013
United States526 Posts
September 21 2014 00:48 GMT
#5005
Not to ballance whine (I do play terren) but has a top tier zerg defeated a top tier terren in a straight up macro game using ling bling muta since the patch? maybe swarm host the only answer?
pajoondies
Profile Joined February 2014
United States316 Posts
September 21 2014 00:49 GMT
#5006
On September 21 2014 09:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2014 09:45 argonautdice wrote:
On September 21 2014 09:44 TheDwf wrote:
On September 21 2014 09:44 argonautdice wrote:
lol so Scarlett messed up but it's ok. The group was brutal, she can prepare well for WCS America and be back on top again!

Don't see her winning Heart with that kind of play. /:

She's got a couple weeks to recover practice and prepare, it's all good


Heart has just as long to study all these games Scarlett just lost to Terran. He'll 3-0, I bet


3-0 sounds about right, unless she pulls off one of those sneaky cheeses again. Then maybe 3-1
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 21 2014 00:49 GMT
#5007
On September 21 2014 09:48 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2014 09:47 Dodgin wrote:
On September 21 2014 09:44 IntoTheheart wrote:
On September 21 2014 09:43 Dodgin wrote:
On September 21 2014 09:42 IntoTheheart wrote:
On September 21 2014 09:41 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On September 21 2014 09:41 IntoTheheart wrote:
I couldn't watch it. How was Polt v. Scarlett?


I am no longer a scarlett fan, that should tell you something


So basically, my priorities became
watch games > my current priorities.


there was no naniwa level drama if that's what you're expecting


I wasn't expecting THAT, but honestly if any Korean would retire a foreigner completely out of SC2, it would be Polt.


Polt's looking for a triple kill of big name foreigners, watch out everyone.


Who else would be on that roster that we have to watch out for, Snute?


Snute, Scarlett and Bunny I guess.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17725 Posts
September 21 2014 00:49 GMT
#5008
On September 21 2014 09:47 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2014 09:46 Die4Ever wrote:
WCS Predictor 2014
Red Bull Washington Semifinals
+ Show Spoiler [Changes This Tournament] +

Biggest Winners
kr Jaedong went up by ~ 14.48 %, going from ~ 60.34 % to ~ 74.82 %
no Snute went up by ~ 13.57 %, going from ~ 49.35 % to ~ 62.93 %
kr soO went up by ~ 8.28 %, going from ~ 62.36 % to ~ 70.64 %
kr MMA went up by ~ 4.94 %, going from ~ 62.35 % to ~ 67.29 %
kr herO went up by ~ 3.83 %, going from ~ 93.95 % to ~ 97.77 %
+ Show Spoiler [More] +

kr Life went up by ~ 2.71 %, going from ~ 95.91 % to ~ 98.62 %
kr YoDa went up by ~ 2.1 %, going from ~ 11.69 % to ~ 13.79 %
kr Heart went up by ~ 1.13 %, going from ~ 5.05 % to ~ 6.17 %
kr Pigbaby went up by ~ 1.05 %, going from ~ 9.74 % to ~ 10.79 %
kr Classic went up by ~ 0.82 %, going from ~ 98.94 % to ~ 99.76 %
ca HuK went up by ~ 0.64 %, going from ~ 2.53 % to ~ 3.17 %
dk Bunny went up by ~ 0.39 %, going from ~ 13.63 % to ~ 14.02 %
pl MaNa went up by ~ 0.36 %, going from ~ 1.03 % to ~ 1.39 %
kr HerO went up by ~ 0.32 %, going from ~ 7.87 % to ~ 8.18 %
kr Golden went up by ~ 0.26 %, going from ~ 3.13 % to ~ 3.39 %
kr ForGG went up by ~ 0.18 %, going from ~ 11.13 % to ~ 11.32 %
kr Cure went up by ~ 0.14 %, going from ~ 0.05 % to ~ 0.19 %


Biggest Loser
kr sOs went down by ~ 55.3 %, going from ~ 58.8 % to ~ 3.5 %

WCS Point Cutoffs
~ 0 % of the time 2,825 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon
~ 3.65 % of the time 2,850 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon
~ 51.66 % of the time 2,950 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon
~ 55.9 % of the time 3,000 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon
~ 92.99 % of the time 3,125 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon
~ 99.99 % of the time 3,450 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon
~ 100 % of the time 3,475 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon

Top 25 Chances
  1. kr HyuN (ROCCAT), is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 6050
  2. kr Zest (KT), is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 5800
  3. kr Polt (CM Storm), is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 5250
  4. kr MC, is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 5200
  5. kr San (Yoe), is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 5125
  6. kr TaeJa (Liquid), is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 5100
  7. kr StarDust (mYinsanity), is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 4700
  8. kr Bomber, is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 4675
  9. kr jjakji (mYinsanity), is at ~ 99.99 %, Min WCS Points: 3350
  10. kr Classic (SKT T1), is at ~ 99.76 %, Min WCS Points: 3200
  11. kr Life (StarTale), is at ~ 98.62 %, Min WCS Points: 3125
  12. kr herO (CJ Entus), is at ~ 97.77 %, Min WCS Points: 3100
  13. kr Jaedong (EG), is at ~ 74.82 %, Min WCS Points: 2950
  14. kr soO (SKT T1), is at ~ 70.64 %, Min WCS Points: 2900
  15. kr MMA (Acer), is at ~ 67.29 %, Min WCS Points: 2725
  16. no Snute (Liquid), is at ~ 62.93 %, Min WCS Points: 2925
  17. kr INnoVation, is at ~ 29.7 %, Min WCS Points: 1975
  18. ca Scarlett (Acer), is at ~ 19.5 %, Min WCS Points: 1950
  19. dk Bunny (Liquid), is at ~ 14.02 %, Min WCS Points: 2075
  20. kr YoDa (TCM), is at ~ 13.79 %, Min WCS Points: 1425
  21. kr ForGG (Millenium), is at ~ 11.32 %, Min WCS Points: 1675
  22. kr Pigbaby, is at ~ 10.79 %, Min WCS Points: 2500
  23. kr HerO (Liquid), is at ~ 8.18 %, Min WCS Points: 2250
  24. kr Heart (Axiom), is at ~ 6.17 %, Min WCS Points: 1550
  25. kr sOs (Jinair), is at ~ 3.5 %, Min WCS Points: 2850



Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [Polt, Bomber in Red Bull Washington] +
Red Bull Washington
- kr Polt is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 50.09 % of the time kr Polt wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %.
~ 49.91 % of the time kr Polt loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr Bomber is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 49.91 % of the time kr Bomber wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %.
~ 50.09 % of the time kr Bomber loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %.


Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [Cure, Trap in Red Bull Washington] +
Red Bull Washington
- kr Cure is at ~ 0.19 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 53.52 % of the time kr Cure wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 0.33 %.
~ 46.48 % of the time kr Cure loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 0.02 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr Trap is at ~ 0 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 46.48 % of the time kr Trap wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 0 %.
~ 53.52 % of the time kr Trap loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 0 %.


Winning Chances
kr Polt has a ~ 28.62 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 %
kr Cure has a ~ 27.72 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 0.19 % to ~ 0.61 %
kr Bomber has a ~ 27.53 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 %
kr Trap has a ~ 16.13 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 0 % to ~ 0 %


So basically, everything to play for if you're Cure.

This happens
~ 1.8 % of the time
Cure gets 1st in GSL S3 Code S and
Cure wins their next match in Red Bull Washington ro4 and
San gets 1st in WCS EU S3 Premier
This would change Cure's Blizzcon chances
from ~ 0.18 % to ~ 3.57 %

His chances aren't very good lol.
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Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
September 21 2014 00:49 GMT
#5009
On September 21 2014 09:48 SlammerIV wrote:
Not to ballance whine (I do play terren) but has a top tier zerg defeated a top tier terren in a straight up macro game using ling bling muta since the patch? maybe swarm host the only answer?

there's this kongjwa soO who kills everyone with everything.

he beat flash recently with lingbling muta so yes
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Darthsanta13
Profile Joined July 2011
United States564 Posts
September 21 2014 00:49 GMT
#5010
On September 21 2014 09:47 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2014 09:44 IntoTheheart wrote:
On September 21 2014 09:43 Dodgin wrote:
On September 21 2014 09:42 IntoTheheart wrote:
On September 21 2014 09:41 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On September 21 2014 09:41 IntoTheheart wrote:
I couldn't watch it. How was Polt v. Scarlett?


I am no longer a scarlett fan, that should tell you something


So basically, my priorities became
watch games > my current priorities.


there was no naniwa level drama if that's what you're expecting


I wasn't expecting THAT, but honestly if any Korean would retire a foreigner completely out of SC2, it would be Polt.


Polt's looking for a triple kill of big name foreigners, watch out everyone.

He needs to force one foreigner into retirement in Korea too so he can have the foreign killer triple crown
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
September 21 2014 00:49 GMT
#5011
On September 21 2014 09:48 SlammerIV wrote:
Not to ballance whine (I do play terren) but has a top tier zerg defeated a top tier terren in a straight up macro game using ling bling muta since the patch? maybe swarm host the only answer?


I think soO - Flash was even a recovery with ling bling mutas.
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
September 21 2014 00:49 GMT
#5012
On September 21 2014 09:44 Yorkie wrote:
Scarlett played well. Polt played better. Scarlett mismanaged a huge engagement and lost a series. Scarlett fans calm down, she'll be back and if anything this showed how good she is to almost advance out of this insane group.

Also 250 swag

In game 3, for the most of the game I thought scarlett playe better. Then she took that horrible fight, with clumped mutas vs 4 or 5 thors.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Tipany
Profile Joined November 2010
United States368 Posts
September 21 2014 00:50 GMT
#5013
On September 21 2014 09:46 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2014 09:44 Tipany wrote:
On September 21 2014 09:43 Paljas wrote:
On September 21 2014 09:43 The_Templar wrote:
On September 21 2014 09:42 Paljas wrote:
On September 21 2014 09:41 The_Templar wrote:
On September 21 2014 09:41 Popkiller wrote:
On September 21 2014 09:39 The_Templar wrote:
On September 21 2014 09:38 Dodgin wrote:
On September 21 2014 09:38 Noocta wrote:
[quote]

The problem is that nobody in this game enjoy the game, they just enjoy the stories and the players.


I enjoy all 3

Me too. I just happen to dislike scarlett a lot.


is that true? I'm a little confused. Everyone said she called you out but in the video it looked like she was only saying nice things about that person...

She wasn't talking about me in particular.

yes, she was LOL

She didn't say "This guy named The_Templar…" therefore she might not have been referring to me.

she said "that one guy"
like, who else could it be

What is everyone referring to?????

Can someone fill a clueless guy in please

Show nested quote +
On September 21 2014 05:38 Lorning wrote:
For the ones who missed it, Scarlett's "shoutout" to The_Templar

http://www.twitch.tv/redbullesports/b/570437035?t=5h50m25s


Cleary theres only one

Ah, thank you. I think it's funny that she's reading these threads and notices these things. I'm not sure how Scarlett reacts to and deals with losses but I hope she comes back stronger after today.
wat.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
September 21 2014 00:50 GMT
#5014
On September 21 2014 09:48 SlammerIV wrote:
Not to ballance whine (I do play terren) but has a top tier zerg defeated a top tier terren in a straight up macro game using ling bling muta since the patch?

Of course.
jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
September 21 2014 00:50 GMT
#5015
On September 21 2014 09:47 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Why does this loss feel so shitty. I'm happy Polt made it but goddammit Scarlett's never gonna make it to a gold. So frustrating, I'm just, ugh...

By the way I don't get home till like 12:30 so I'm not doing the thread tomorrow.

Thanks for doing the thread today man! Always apprecaited
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Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
September 21 2014 00:50 GMT
#5016
even DRG beat Flash
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
September 21 2014 00:51 GMT
#5017
On September 21 2014 09:46 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2014 09:44 TheDwf wrote:
On September 21 2014 09:44 argonautdice wrote:
lol so Scarlett messed up but it's ok. The group was brutal, she can prepare well for WCS America and be back on top again!

Don't see her winning Heart with that kind of play. /:


ya she's fucked against Heart. Never beaten him in a series, and already lost to him once this WCS.


I really hope Heart wins WCS this season, he's been building up to it this year.
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
September 21 2014 00:51 GMT
#5018
On September 21 2014 09:48 SlammerIV wrote:
Not to ballance whine (I do play terren) but has a top tier zerg defeated a top tier terren in a straight up macro game using ling bling muta since the patch? maybe swarm host the only answer?

Watch the MSI Beat IT south korean qualifiers.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 21 2014 00:51 GMT
#5019
Cure is about to be this year's Dear. He just has to win everything up until Blizzcon and have the right people lose. ezpz
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-21 00:52:03
September 21 2014 00:51 GMT
#5020
On September 21 2014 09:48 SlammerIV wrote:
Not to ballance whine (I do play terren) but has a top tier zerg defeated a top tier terren in a straight up macro game using ling bling muta since the patch? maybe swarm host the only answer?

you can still win with ling bane muta but against crisp, calm, patient terran play its really really difficult now, you basically have to see them make a mistake with positioning and pounce hard immediately, which is actually a massive change from prepatch because prepatch it was preferable to sit back defensively and mass muta/bane until you have so much that you can charge into terran while expanding and often just win anyway. zerg has to be aware of the map and make perfect decisions these days

scarlett's aggressive and clumsy engagements were exemplary of the need to find those engagements, and i was actually stunningly impressed that she made it work a couple of times and took big supply leads. her play was very erratic.
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