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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
September 12 2014 07:10 GMT
#541
On September 12 2014 16:09 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 16:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I can't wait for the day where SCV pulls fall out of the meta


I like em. They're basically Soul Trains. Of course it could just be my inner sadist speaking though.

At least with Soul Trains they're not the only thing that's done. Most TvP nowadays ends up seeing whether or not the Protoss can get to storm and hold the SCV pull.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
_Epi_
Profile Joined February 2014
Germany158 Posts
September 12 2014 07:11 GMT
#542
yeah that dota stuff is annoying
PepsiMaxxxx
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden5452 Posts
September 12 2014 07:11 GMT
#543
On September 12 2014 16:05 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 15:59 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
On September 12 2014 15:57 Xoronius wrote:
On September 12 2014 15:55 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
On September 12 2014 15:49 Incognoto wrote:
On September 12 2014 15:46 Ctesias wrote:
On September 12 2014 15:44 Incognoto wrote:
Why is Kespa cup not broadcasted by tastosis by the way? wolf and brendan are sup-par casters (like most casters tbh), so I don't see why they keep casting korean events.

They're the Kespa casters.


I know but please, Kespa, get better casters.

You have god-level casters such as Tasteless, Artosis (which surpass gods when they cast together), TB and Day9. Then you have the rest which are seriously two good notches under those.


God level casters, n-word please. They are not even top three any more. And Day9 is even worse.

How is Artosis not top 3? Which 3 are better in your opinion?


Game knowledge: Tod, Apollo, Rotterdam, Nathanias and QXC (If he's casting now).

I don't care shit about Play by play.


no one gives a shit about the pseudo-analysis that casters give. artosis's analysis is spot-on, just as deep as it needs to be without going into crazy precise details that viewers don't care about.

people who give a shit about gas timings and whatnot can see those details for themselves.

otherwise the level of analysis that artosis brings to the table is at the good level. the play-by-play that tasteless gives is also excellent:
"this move was good for [insert race instead of player name]"
"[race] is ahead now"
"[race] is in a good position"
"here we go"

That's just perfect casting, it's geared towards the casual viewer who doesn't give a crap (or can't understand) the nuances of the build being used.


Oh I didn't realise you were trolling. The joke's on me I guess..
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-12 07:13:40
September 12 2014 07:11 GMT
#544
On September 12 2014 16:07 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 16:05 Incognoto wrote:
On September 12 2014 15:59 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
On September 12 2014 15:57 Xoronius wrote:
On September 12 2014 15:55 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
On September 12 2014 15:49 Incognoto wrote:
On September 12 2014 15:46 Ctesias wrote:
On September 12 2014 15:44 Incognoto wrote:
Why is Kespa cup not broadcasted by tastosis by the way? wolf and brendan are sup-par casters (like most casters tbh), so I don't see why they keep casting korean events.

They're the Kespa casters.


I know but please, Kespa, get better casters.

You have god-level casters such as Tasteless, Artosis (which surpass gods when they cast together), TB and Day9. Then you have the rest which are seriously two good notches under those.


God level casters, n-word please. They are not even top three any more. And Day9 is even worse.

How is Artosis not top 3? Which 3 are better in your opinion?


Game knowledge: Tod, Apollo, Rotterdam, Nathanias and QXC (If he's casting now).

I don't care shit about Play by play.


no one gives a shit about the pseudo-analysis that casters give. artosis's analysis is spot-on, just as deep as it needs to be without going into crazy precise details that viewers don't care about.

people who give a shit about gas timings and whatnot can see those details for themselves.

otherwise the level of analysis that artosis brings to the table is at the good level. the play-by-play that tasteless gives is also excellent:
"this move was good for [insert race instead of player name]"
"[race] is ahead now"
"[race] is in a good position"
"here we go"

That's just perfect casting, it's geared towards the casual viewer who doesn't give a crap (or can't understand) the nuances of the build being used.


Qxc/Tod have the best analysis of the pro-gamer psyche. They really delve into what the player is thinking at that moment in the game.


Qxc maybe, from the little of him I heard him casting he seemed really enthusiastic (which is nice) but was constantly cutting off his co-caster (apollo it was?). His game knowledge was really good, that's for sure. though he's a player before a caster so it's obvious that the talking skills aren't there (tasteless for example is honey to any ear)

I don't know about tod other than I actually like his casting. he did at good job at destiny I. I don't watch much of the non-korean scene to be frank.

incontrol is also a very smooth caster who is nice to listen to.

apollo, wolf, brendan, kaleris I dump into tier 3 casters. no offense, but I don't think i could do even half the job they do. they just aren't as good as the aforementioned casters.

On September 12 2014 16:11 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 16:05 Incognoto wrote:
On September 12 2014 15:59 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
On September 12 2014 15:57 Xoronius wrote:
On September 12 2014 15:55 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
On September 12 2014 15:49 Incognoto wrote:
On September 12 2014 15:46 Ctesias wrote:
On September 12 2014 15:44 Incognoto wrote:
Why is Kespa cup not broadcasted by tastosis by the way? wolf and brendan are sup-par casters (like most casters tbh), so I don't see why they keep casting korean events.

They're the Kespa casters.


I know but please, Kespa, get better casters.

You have god-level casters such as Tasteless, Artosis (which surpass gods when they cast together), TB and Day9. Then you have the rest which are seriously two good notches under those.


God level casters, n-word please. They are not even top three any more. And Day9 is even worse.

How is Artosis not top 3? Which 3 are better in your opinion?


Game knowledge: Tod, Apollo, Rotterdam, Nathanias and QXC (If he's casting now).

I don't care shit about Play by play.


no one gives a shit about the pseudo-analysis that casters give. artosis's analysis is spot-on, just as deep as it needs to be without going into crazy precise details that viewers don't care about.

people who give a shit about gas timings and whatnot can see those details for themselves.

otherwise the level of analysis that artosis brings to the table is at the good level. the play-by-play that tasteless gives is also excellent:
"this move was good for [insert race instead of player name]"
"[race] is ahead now"
"[race] is in a good position"
"here we go"

That's just perfect casting, it's geared towards the casual viewer who doesn't give a crap (or can't understand) the nuances of the build being used.


Oh I didn't realise you were trolling. The joke's on me I guess..


Not really trolling. my views are obviously personal and subjective. so i'm not really wrong or right compared to you. i do feel however that my taste of casters is (in my subjective opinion) better than yours.
maru lover forever
Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
September 12 2014 07:11 GMT
#545
On September 12 2014 16:09 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 16:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I can't wait for the day where SCV pulls fall out of the meta


I like em. They're basically Soul Trains. Of course it could just be my inner sadist speaking though.

I usually find them boring, since you know the game ends when someone pulls SCVs. Regardless who takes the fight the game is over in a minute.
Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-12 07:11:56
September 12 2014 07:11 GMT
#546
On September 12 2014 16:05 Incognoto wrote:
That's just perfect casting, it's geared towards the casual viewer who doesn't give a crap (or can't understand) the nuances of the build being used.


The almighty casual, dumb idiot, praised be thy name. Everything should be catered to him, because he alone is the one, who would watch an SC2 tourney at 6:00 AM...
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 12 2014 07:12 GMT
#547
On September 12 2014 16:10 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 16:08 imrusty269 wrote:
On September 12 2014 16:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I can't wait for the day where SCV pulls fall out of the meta


Why? It is beautiful when it works.


I wish you many Cannon rushes in your future.


They cannon rush them so in turn they get roach baned which in turn leads to the scv pull which leads to the soul train which leads to the muta base trade which leads to the 11/11 which leads the proxy gates which leads to the squirtle 2 base.

It's a dark road to the bottom.
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
September 12 2014 07:13 GMT
#548
On September 12 2014 16:11 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 16:07 stuchiu wrote:
On September 12 2014 16:05 Incognoto wrote:
On September 12 2014 15:59 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
On September 12 2014 15:57 Xoronius wrote:
On September 12 2014 15:55 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
On September 12 2014 15:49 Incognoto wrote:
On September 12 2014 15:46 Ctesias wrote:
On September 12 2014 15:44 Incognoto wrote:
Why is Kespa cup not broadcasted by tastosis by the way? wolf and brendan are sup-par casters (like most casters tbh), so I don't see why they keep casting korean events.

They're the Kespa casters.


I know but please, Kespa, get better casters.

You have god-level casters such as Tasteless, Artosis (which surpass gods when they cast together), TB and Day9. Then you have the rest which are seriously two good notches under those.


God level casters, n-word please. They are not even top three any more. And Day9 is even worse.

How is Artosis not top 3? Which 3 are better in your opinion?


Game knowledge: Tod, Apollo, Rotterdam, Nathanias and QXC (If he's casting now).

I don't care shit about Play by play.


no one gives a shit about the pseudo-analysis that casters give. artosis's analysis is spot-on, just as deep as it needs to be without going into crazy precise details that viewers don't care about.

people who give a shit about gas timings and whatnot can see those details for themselves.

otherwise the level of analysis that artosis brings to the table is at the good level. the play-by-play that tasteless gives is also excellent:
"this move was good for [insert race instead of player name]"
"[race] is ahead now"
"[race] is in a good position"
"here we go"

That's just perfect casting, it's geared towards the casual viewer who doesn't give a crap (or can't understand) the nuances of the build being used.


Qxc/Tod have the best analysis of the pro-gamer psyche. They really delve into what the player is thinking at that moment in the game.


Qxc maybe, from the little of him I heard him casting he seemed really enthusiastic (which is nice) but was constantly cutting off his co-caster (apollo it was?). His game knowledge was really good, that's for sure. though he's a player before a caster so it's obvious that the talking skills aren't there (tasteless for example is honey to any ear)

I don't know about tod other than I actually like his casting. he did at good job at destiny I. I don't watch much of the non-korean scene to be frank.

incontrol is also a very smooth caster who is nice to listen to.

apollo, wolf, brendan, kaleris I dump into tier 3 casters. no offense, but I don't think i could do even half the job they do. they just aren't as good as the aforementioned casters.


woah what's wrong with Apollo? I'd put him firmly just behind Artosis in the caster rankings, though Qxc is gaining on him.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
September 12 2014 07:14 GMT
#549
oh god that hair
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
September 12 2014 07:14 GMT
#550
WOAH Wolf has red hair.
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Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
September 12 2014 07:15 GMT
#551
hey, Wolf's hair looks different again!
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
September 12 2014 07:15 GMT
#552
On September 12 2014 16:12 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 16:10 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On September 12 2014 16:08 imrusty269 wrote:
On September 12 2014 16:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I can't wait for the day where SCV pulls fall out of the meta


Why? It is beautiful when it works.


I wish you many Cannon rushes in your future.


They cannon rush them so in turn they get roach baned which in turn leads to the scv pull which leads to the soul train which leads to the muta base trade which leads to the 11/11 which leads the proxy gates which leads to the squirtle 2 base.

It's a dark road to the bottom.


And when the world ends, BitbyBit will bring about the New Order.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Wrsf
Profile Joined September 2014
Austria4 Posts
September 12 2014 07:15 GMT
#553
On September 12 2014 16:08 imrusty269 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 16:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I can't wait for the day where SCV pulls fall out of the meta


Why? It is beautiful when it works.


I bet that you always whine about toss all ins

On September 12 2014 16:04 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Sick micro from Bomber :o



On September 12 2014 16:04 fezvez wrote:
Wow, very very clean control by Bomber, I am so very impressed


Terran bias at its best...the stream went down and the micro was sick?
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
September 12 2014 07:16 GMT
#554
On September 12 2014 16:15 Yello wrote:
hey, Wolf's hair looks different again!


Of all people, are you really surprised Wolf pays a lot of attention to his hairstyle?
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-12 07:17:43
September 12 2014 07:16 GMT
#555
On September 12 2014 16:11 Greenei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 16:05 Incognoto wrote:
That's just perfect casting, it's geared towards the casual viewer who doesn't give a crap (or can't understand) the nuances of the build being used.


The almighty casual, dumb idiot, praised be thy name. Everything should be catered to him, because he alone is the one, who would watch an SC2 tourney at 6:00 AM...


You're an idiot. There's a difference between being an idiot (someone who is stupid) and someone who is ignorant. Someone who just started starcraft 2 because he heard that there was this amazingly vibrant Korean scene is going to understand what the fuck is going on very easily if he listens to tasteless. Someone who has very basic knowledge of starcraft is going to have a blast listening to tasteless and artosis. They're the perfect mix for the casual to hardcore viewer. They aren't going to go into the top 2% of players who have a very high understanding of the game, there isn't enough time during a game to cater towards them.

So they're the best possible mix. You're incredibly arrogant to call a casual viewer a dumb idiot.

@miniwheats, idk just don't like apollo all that much. that's just personal views. he's definitely better than the other names listed there though, i guess?

maru lover forever
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-12 07:16:37
September 12 2014 07:16 GMT
#556
On September 12 2014 16:15 Wrsf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 16:08 imrusty269 wrote:
On September 12 2014 16:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I can't wait for the day where SCV pulls fall out of the meta


Why? It is beautiful when it works.


I bet that you always whine about toss all ins

Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 16:04 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Sick micro from Bomber :o



Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 16:04 fezvez wrote:
Wow, very very clean control by Bomber, I am so very impressed


Terran bias at its best...the stream went down and the micro was sick?


I was talking about at the end...

I'm not a Terran either.
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
September 12 2014 07:16 GMT
#557
On September 12 2014 16:15 Wrsf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 16:08 imrusty269 wrote:
On September 12 2014 16:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I can't wait for the day where SCV pulls fall out of the meta


Why? It is beautiful when it works.


I bet that you always whine about toss all ins

Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 16:04 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Sick micro from Bomber :o



Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 16:04 fezvez wrote:
Wow, very very clean control by Bomber, I am so very impressed


Terran bias at its best...the stream went down and the micro was sick?

To be fair, Bomber and Rain's micro at the natural after the big fight was pretty sick.
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jonich0n
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1982 Posts
September 12 2014 07:17 GMT
#558
hahaha oh god the sneaky camera shots of the girls of the crowd NEVER get old. oh man, THE SHAME
(>'.')>
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
September 12 2014 07:18 GMT
#559
Roasted! Get rekt!

BOMBAAAAAAAAAAA!
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shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
September 12 2014 07:18 GMT
#560
Bomber thrashing Rain this series.
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