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[Red Bull BG] Detroit - Day 3 - Page 4

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PepsiMaxxxx
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden5452 Posts
August 24 2014 15:28 GMT
#61
viOLet's a dick to nature, doesn't recycle.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
August 24 2014 15:28 GMT
#62
On August 25 2014 00:26 babobbyj wrote:
Who's producing the Redbull tournys? Is it ESL or do they have their own crew?

Red Bull is producing their own tourneys.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
KaneMX
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany151 Posts
August 24 2014 15:29 GMT
#63
And yet again they manage to talk for hours about trivial stuff nobody cares about. Only thing that annoys me when watching SC2.

And while I'm writting this they finally get started. Hooray \o/
TokO: "Starcraft 2 is after all a game of 'being the bigger dick' to the opponent."
Jazzman88
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada2228 Posts
August 24 2014 15:29 GMT
#64
On August 25 2014 00:26 Tamagoshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 00:24 royalroadweed wrote:
I don't know why tod is selling the wcs ranking so much. I don't think anyone buys that hyun, mc and stardust are the 3 best players in the world.

Now Hasuobs did the same... Do they really believe that? :O


Because even if it's not a straight up 'best in the world' ranking, you have to beat a shit-ton of people, at a range of events from things like this to MLG to IEMs, who are all also hungry for those points. Shitting on the WCS ranking because it's not definitive is like saying the guy who just fought off a piranha swarm barehanded isn't badass because it wasn't a fight with a great white in a viewing tank.
babobbyj
Profile Joined June 2013
636 Posts
August 24 2014 15:30 GMT
#65
On August 25 2014 00:28 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 00:26 babobbyj wrote:
Who's producing the Redbull tournys? Is it ESL or do they have their own crew?

Red Bull is producing their own tourneys.


I gotta say, they do a proper job at it.

Redbull + Vodka, there's nothing u cant do!
Bad Ass Bobby Johnson, a.k.a. Valiante
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 24 2014 15:32 GMT
#66
On August 25 2014 00:26 Tamagoshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 00:24 royalroadweed wrote:
I don't know why tod is selling the wcs ranking so much. I don't think anyone buys that hyun, mc and stardust are the 3 best players in the world.

Now Hasuobs did the same... Do they really believe that? :O

Well they are the best players in the world championship by gathering the most points. This is a quantifiable result. Some Kespa players might be better but it's their choice not participating.
Neosteel Enthusiast
Tamagoshi
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil981 Posts
August 24 2014 15:34 GMT
#67
On August 25 2014 00:32 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 00:26 Tamagoshi wrote:
On August 25 2014 00:24 royalroadweed wrote:
I don't know why tod is selling the wcs ranking so much. I don't think anyone buys that hyun, mc and stardust are the 3 best players in the world.

Now Hasuobs did the same... Do they really believe that? :O

Well they are the best players in the world championship by gathering the most points. This is a quantifiable result. Some Kespa players might be better but it's their choice not participating.

I do think they are freaking good in the game, but if someone asked me "Stardust vs Hyun, who do you think wins?" I would never answer "Hyun, he has more WCS points afterall"
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-24 15:37:56
August 24 2014 15:36 GMT
#68
On August 25 2014 00:28 Zheryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 00:24 royalroadweed wrote:
I don't know why tod is selling the wcs ranking so much. I don't think anyone buys that hyun, mc and stardust are the 3 best players in the world.


Well just because they aren't the best players in the world doesn't mean they don't deserve the hype for being the players who have worked hardest to play in many tournaments over the year and place well in many of them.


[B]On August 25 2014 00:29 Jazzman88 wrote:

Because even if it's not a straight up 'best in the world' ranking, you have to beat a shit-ton of people, at a range of events from things like this to MLG to IEMs, who are all also hungry for those points. Shitting on the WCS ranking because it's not definitive is like saying the guy who just fought off a piranha swarm barehanded isn't badass because it wasn't a fight with a great white in a viewing tank.


I don't see how this is relevant. They're not saying they're the most activate players. Or the beat a lot of players. Or what they did wasn't easy or required a lot of work. Tod implied that hyun, mc and stardust are the best players in the world. Hasuobs straight up said they're the best players in the world. And this isn't true.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
August 24 2014 15:36 GMT
#69
Damn violet that hit hard.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Tamagoshi
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil981 Posts
August 24 2014 15:37 GMT
#70
Poor overlords
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
August 24 2014 15:39 GMT
#71
On August 25 2014 00:36 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 00:28 Zheryn wrote:
On August 25 2014 00:24 royalroadweed wrote:
I don't know why tod is selling the wcs ranking so much. I don't think anyone buys that hyun, mc and stardust are the 3 best players in the world.


Well just because they aren't the best players in the world doesn't mean they don't deserve the hype for being the players who have worked hardest to play in many tournaments over the year and place well in many of them.




Because even if it's not a straight up 'best in the world' ranking, you have to beat a shit-ton of people, at a range of events from things like this to MLG to IEMs, who are all also hungry for those points. Shitting on the WCS ranking because it's not definitive is like saying the guy who just fought off a piranha swarm barehanded isn't badass because it wasn't a fight with a great white in a viewing tank.[/QUOTE]
I don't see how this is relevant. They're not saying they're the most activate players. Or the beat a lot of players. Tod implied that hyun, mc and stardust are the best players in the world. Hasuobs straight up said they're the best players in the world. And this isn't true. [/QUOTE]

Yeah if they are saying they are the best players in the world purely from WCS rankings that's kind of odd. However, a lot of people are saying that it's wrong that these players are in the top rankings and that they shouldn't be there etc.
hundred thousand krouner
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
August 24 2014 15:39 GMT
#72
This game is so MESSY lol.
hundred thousand krouner
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 24 2014 15:41 GMT
#73
Spores vs muta damage is so ridiculous really. I know it stopped the ugly mass mutalisk meta but it just feels out of place.
Neosteel Enthusiast
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
August 24 2014 15:41 GMT
#74
On August 25 2014 00:36 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 00:28 Zheryn wrote:
On August 25 2014 00:24 royalroadweed wrote:
I don't know why tod is selling the wcs ranking so much. I don't think anyone buys that hyun, mc and stardust are the 3 best players in the world.


Well just because they aren't the best players in the world doesn't mean they don't deserve the hype for being the players who have worked hardest to play in many tournaments over the year and place well in many of them.


Show nested quote +
[B]On August 25 2014 00:29 Jazzman88 wrote:

Because even if it's not a straight up 'best in the world' ranking, you have to beat a shit-ton of people, at a range of events from things like this to MLG to IEMs, who are all also hungry for those points. Shitting on the WCS ranking because it's not definitive is like saying the guy who just fought off a piranha swarm barehanded isn't badass because it wasn't a fight with a great white in a viewing tank.


I don't see how this is relevant. They're not saying they're the most activate players. Or the beat a lot of players. Or what they did wasn't easy or required a lot of work. Tod implied that hyun, mc and stardust are the best players in the world. Hasuobs straight up said they're the best players in the world. And this isn't true.

Then I pose who is the best player? soO, Zest, Flash? That's a question that nobody will agree on. The WCS Rankings show who's been performing at great at the top level, and it serves as a defacto way to see who's "the best".
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 24 2014 15:42 GMT
#75
I really wish they'd make violet use a real account. I hate barcodes, it looks so bad on stream
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
August 24 2014 15:43 GMT
#76
On August 25 2014 00:19 stuchiu wrote:
In that case I'm a get some food. brb.

wow stop hating on zvz.
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
August 24 2014 15:43 GMT
#77
Poll: Recommend HyuN vs viOLet Game 1?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★★★- Good game (9)
 
69%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (3)
 
23%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
 
8%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend HyuN vs viOLet Game 1?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season

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Dimagus
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1004 Posts
August 24 2014 15:43 GMT
#78
On August 25 2014 00:28 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
viOLet's a dick to nature, doesn't recycle.

He just tossed those mutas in the trash and never looked back.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 24 2014 15:43 GMT
#79
yo im back
Moderator
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
August 24 2014 15:44 GMT
#80
On August 25 2014 00:41 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Spores vs muta damage is so ridiculous really. I know it stopped the ugly mass mutalisk meta but it just feels out of place.


Well the problem is that zergs anti air is so horrible so without sick spores you HAVE to go mutas and then it becomes only muta vs muta. You can't for example get quick hydras to deal with mutas since they are too slow and you need a big clump of them to be safe vs mutas.
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