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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 12 2014 12:19 GMT
#1021
Classic pre PL finals would have nexus'd first!
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thantritue
Profile Joined February 2010
Vietnam70 Posts
August 12 2014 12:20 GMT
#1022
On August 12 2014 21:17 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 21:16 thantritue wrote:
I missed the first game. How did Flash lose ?

Well Classic actually played okayish in game 1...that was a start.



On August 12 2014 21:18 VengefulTree wrote:
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On August 12 2014 21:16 thantritue wrote:
I missed the first game. How did Flash lose ?


Scv pull on overgrowth, Flash barely wins the fight, not convincingly enough to break Classic's economy, then he's too far behind.


Thanks!
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
August 12 2014 12:21 GMT
#1023
On August 12 2014 21:19 stuchiu wrote:
Classic pre PL finals would have nexus'd first!


I actually cant remember Flash proxy raxxing in SC2, has he ever done it?
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-12 12:23:02
August 12 2014 12:22 GMT
#1024
On August 12 2014 21:21 Topdoller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 21:19 stuchiu wrote:
Classic pre PL finals would have nexus'd first!


I actually cant remember Flash proxy raxxing in SC2, has he ever done it?


against Zerg. Never seen it vsP though, cept against Naniwa. But does that count?
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-12 12:22:53
August 12 2014 12:22 GMT
#1025
On August 12 2014 21:21 Topdoller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 21:19 stuchiu wrote:
Classic pre PL finals would have nexus'd first!


I actually cant remember Flash proxy raxxing in SC2, has he ever done it?


Did it alot during pro league. I say alot, alot for Flash xD
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Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
August 12 2014 12:22 GMT
#1026
On August 12 2014 21:21 Topdoller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 21:19 stuchiu wrote:
Classic pre PL finals would have nexus'd first!


I actually cant remember Flash proxy raxxing in SC2, has he ever done it?

IIRC he did against Zergs, can't remember against who though.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Foreverkul
Profile Joined March 2014
United States1649 Posts
August 12 2014 12:23 GMT
#1027
On August 12 2014 21:18 BlackCompany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 21:17 Foreverkul wrote:
On August 12 2014 21:15 rotta wrote:
On August 12 2014 21:11 Foreverkul wrote:
On August 12 2014 21:09 ZAiNs wrote:
On August 12 2014 21:05 royalroadweed wrote:
On August 12 2014 21:03 SatedSC2 wrote:
That was a pretty sick flank by Flash.

EDIT:

On August 12 2014 21:03 Foreverkul wrote:
Double cheese? NO PROBLEM, defend anything with overcharge!

How are you not getting banned for all this blatant whining?

Balance whining? He just said exactly what happened in the game. He might as well be doing play by play.

lol no. He was whining that you can do 'double cheese' and be 'unpunishable' which is just retarded balance whining that shows no game understanding whatsoever.


Ok then what about these stats?
On August 12 2014 21:09 Foreverkul wrote:
Did you know in this qualifier:
10 ZvPs, Zerg lost 8
4 TvP, Terran lost 3
Weird stats right?


Let's see those stats again after Flash is done...

He has to win this game and 2 more series. I really want him to advance, but realistically/statistically its unlikely.

THe fact that you try to do a statistical analyyis with 5 games played show me you have no idea what you are talking about

Statistically, in this tournament and around the world, Terran and Zerg have been under-performing vs Protoss. Its been well established and acknowledged by Blizzard. The reasons are of course under debate, most vocally due to balance, but probably more accurately attributed to poor design decisions (see widow mines, overcharge, time warp, muta heal, swarm host)
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14463 Posts
August 12 2014 12:23 GMT
#1028
On August 12 2014 21:22 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 21:21 Topdoller wrote:
On August 12 2014 21:19 stuchiu wrote:
Classic pre PL finals would have nexus'd first!


I actually cant remember Flash proxy raxxing in SC2, has he ever done it?

IIRC he did against Zergs, can't remember against who though.

Shine on Overgrowth ?
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 12 2014 12:23 GMT
#1029
On August 12 2014 21:22 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 21:21 Topdoller wrote:
On August 12 2014 21:19 stuchiu wrote:
Classic pre PL finals would have nexus'd first!


I actually cant remember Flash proxy raxxing in SC2, has he ever done it?


against Zerg. Never seen it vsP though, cept against Naniwa. But does that count?


Did it to a protoss im sure unless im getting confused with Maru who does it to every toss on King Sejong Station haha.
I thought Flash did it vs herO or something on King Sejong during PL
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-12 12:26:29
August 12 2014 12:26 GMT
#1030
Looks like Classic is going to do the proper Phoenix Colli build here. What you got here Flash!
Triple Starport LOL oh my xD
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Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
August 12 2014 12:26 GMT
#1031
wait, 3 starports? He won't have enough minerals to build from those and from his rax at the same time Oo
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
August 12 2014 12:27 GMT
#1032
Flash is into full greed mode.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
August 12 2014 12:27 GMT
#1033
Myunsiks Phoenix Colossus looks so much more crisp...
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
August 12 2014 12:27 GMT
#1034
On August 12 2014 21:23 Foreverkul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 21:18 BlackCompany wrote:
On August 12 2014 21:17 Foreverkul wrote:
On August 12 2014 21:15 rotta wrote:
On August 12 2014 21:11 Foreverkul wrote:
On August 12 2014 21:09 ZAiNs wrote:
On August 12 2014 21:05 royalroadweed wrote:
On August 12 2014 21:03 SatedSC2 wrote:
That was a pretty sick flank by Flash.

EDIT:

On August 12 2014 21:03 Foreverkul wrote:
Double cheese? NO PROBLEM, defend anything with overcharge!

How are you not getting banned for all this blatant whining?

Balance whining? He just said exactly what happened in the game. He might as well be doing play by play.

lol no. He was whining that you can do 'double cheese' and be 'unpunishable' which is just retarded balance whining that shows no game understanding whatsoever.


Ok then what about these stats?
On August 12 2014 21:09 Foreverkul wrote:
Did you know in this qualifier:
10 ZvPs, Zerg lost 8
4 TvP, Terran lost 3
Weird stats right?


Let's see those stats again after Flash is done...

He has to win this game and 2 more series. I really want him to advance, but realistically/statistically its unlikely.

THe fact that you try to do a statistical analyyis with 5 games played show me you have no idea what you are talking about

Statistically, in this tournament and around the world, Terran and Zerg have been under-performing vs Protoss. Its been well established and acknowledged by Blizzard. The reasons are of course under debate, most vocally due to balance, but probably more accurately attributed to poor design decisions (see widow mines, overcharge, time warp, muta heal, swarm host)

You once again show you dont know what you are talking about. TvP has been hugely in Ts favour lately, see KR Qualifier for IEM, GSL Code S...
Here you got some of the best Protoss in tbe world and they have a winning record IN THIS QUALIFIER FINALS
and you try to statisticly prove TvP is P favoured?
Get some grasp on reality and dont try to prove shit with Statistics that are wrong and when you apparently dont even know whats happening
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-12 12:27:48
August 12 2014 12:27 GMT
#1035
6 viking production!!! Getting use to this in top level TvP xD
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royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
August 12 2014 12:27 GMT
#1036
On August 12 2014 21:19 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 21:18 asongdotnet wrote:
he's gotta beat herO and pigbaby... oh jeez how much hate would pigbaby get after beating bomber if he beats flash for the last qual spot lol


Haha he would become the Protoss equivalent of Sniper xD

No way. Pigbaby actually plays well, while sniper may as well be the poster boy of patch zerg wol.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
TokyoGirl
Profile Joined July 2014
Japan116 Posts
August 12 2014 12:27 GMT
#1037
boys will be pulled momentarily
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-12 12:30:47
August 12 2014 12:28 GMT
#1038
that's too many vikings, isn't it? He doesn't have nearly as much of a ground army left

somehow this is working out fine. Classic doesn't seem used to this new PvT style though. He tried chasing Flash with zealot reinforcements with a full 2 upgrades behind.
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Gullis
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden740 Posts
August 12 2014 12:29 GMT
#1039
I think his can set up flash for a good follow up attack no?
I would rather eat than see my children starve.
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
August 12 2014 12:29 GMT
#1040
What the hell was that fight
it kind of worked but why wouldnt you focus the colossi
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