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France7248 Posts
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TY and Maru showing how useless Tanks are in TvP. Oh wait  .
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Sweden1815 Posts
I wrote to KT on Facebook and asked why Flash did not allow the game to be casted.
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On August 11 2014 19:58 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2014 19:56 Circumstance wrote:On August 11 2014 19:52 NarutO wrote:On August 11 2014 19:48 Circumstance wrote:On August 11 2014 19:46 stuchiu wrote:On August 11 2014 19:40 rotta wrote:
Unleash the Flash! Flash doesn't like his fans enough to stream his games. Which is why he should not have fans. (At least, not nearly as many as he has.) But props to Dear for sticking up for the casters! Cry more. Its perfectly fine and his choice to deny casters. There is no rule as the admins said. No way to enforce it. As you can see, in Korea there are no replays uploaded for the qualifier which actually IS a rule. If you make strict rules, KeSPa teams and lots of players simply won't play. I'm not saying he should be forced. I'm saying he should follow the exampe of literally every other player we've seen and not be a jackass. Wanting to play under best conditions is not being a jackass. Asking a player to not play under best conditions is 
Yeah I think it's fine if he worries about cross server lag, but the replay thing really ticks me off, always did. They can't just stand above the rules. If they don't want to play, don't, but follow the rules. They show disrespect imo, they would/could never do that in a KeSPA tournament. Mostly I am angry at ESL for not enforcing the rules though.
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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nice two base play by maru
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On August 11 2014 19:53 SatedSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2014 19:48 Musicus wrote:On August 11 2014 19:47 SatedSC2 wrote:On August 11 2014 19:46 Musicus wrote:On August 11 2014 19:46 SatedSC2 wrote:On August 11 2014 19:45 Musicus wrote:Flash blocked the stream again  . Don't tournaments like this usually have a rule that you have to let the official casters cast you if they want to..? Meh. They asked the admins, they said they can't enforce it. What's the point in having rules if you don't enforce them? No appearantly it's in the rules that they can't force him. Oh. That makes more sense than what I thought you were implying =P EDIT: It's still very strange though. It's kinda like an EPL football team refusing to give access to Sky Sports on match-day even though Sky Sports are helping to fund the teams/tournament. ESL are putting on a tournament with a large amount of money and so should be able to broadcast any game they want from the tournament (qualifiers are part of the tournament). If players don't like that then they just shouldn't play. If that means KeSPA players choose not to play then so be it. Given that other players don't seem to have a problem with it, this just makes Flash look like a bit of a diva...
It is important to note that we nor Fenner are the 'official' ESL casters, so it's possible if he makes it to day 2 THEN they will force him to be cast.
Could still be wrong. Haven't seen someone go far enough to deny the official stream coverage in the first place. Flash might be the first? 
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On August 11 2014 19:56 Circumstance wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2014 19:52 NarutO wrote:On August 11 2014 19:48 Circumstance wrote:On August 11 2014 19:46 stuchiu wrote:On August 11 2014 19:40 rotta wrote:
Unleash the Flash! Flash doesn't like his fans enough to stream his games. Which is why he should not have fans. (At least, not nearly as many as he has.) But props to Dear for sticking up for the casters! Cry more. Its perfectly fine and his choice to deny casters. There is no rule as the admins said. No way to enforce it. As you can see, in Korea there are no replays uploaded for the qualifier which actually IS a rule. If you make strict rules, KeSPa teams and lots of players simply won't play. I'm not saying he should be forced. I'm saying he should follow the exampe of literally every other player we've seen and not be a jackass.
Ask not what the Flash can do for us, but what we can do for the Flash.
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On August 11 2014 20:01 SatedSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2014 19:59 ZAiNs wrote:TY and Maru showing how useless Tanks are in TvP. Oh wait . Did Maru abuse positioning on King Sejong Station as well..?
just build tanks and killed trust
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On August 11 2014 20:01 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2014 19:58 NarutO wrote:On August 11 2014 19:56 Circumstance wrote:On August 11 2014 19:52 NarutO wrote:On August 11 2014 19:48 Circumstance wrote:On August 11 2014 19:46 stuchiu wrote:On August 11 2014 19:40 rotta wrote:
Unleash the Flash! Flash doesn't like his fans enough to stream his games. Which is why he should not have fans. (At least, not nearly as many as he has.) But props to Dear for sticking up for the casters! Cry more. Its perfectly fine and his choice to deny casters. There is no rule as the admins said. No way to enforce it. As you can see, in Korea there are no replays uploaded for the qualifier which actually IS a rule. If you make strict rules, KeSPa teams and lots of players simply won't play. I'm not saying he should be forced. I'm saying he should follow the exampe of literally every other player we've seen and not be a jackass. Wanting to play under best conditions is not being a jackass. Asking a player to not play under best conditions is Yeah I think it's fine if he worries about cross server lag, but the replay thing really ticks me off, always did. They can't just stand above the rules. If they don't want to play, don't, but follow the rules. They show disrespect imo, they would/could never do that in a KeSPA tournament. Mostly I am angry at ESL for not enforcing the rules though.
ESL wants to provide good games. If you enforce replays, I am willing to bet money that the KeSPa players won't take part.
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On August 11 2014 20:01 ZombieGrub wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2014 19:53 SatedSC2 wrote:On August 11 2014 19:48 Musicus wrote:On August 11 2014 19:47 SatedSC2 wrote:On August 11 2014 19:46 Musicus wrote:On August 11 2014 19:46 SatedSC2 wrote:On August 11 2014 19:45 Musicus wrote:Flash blocked the stream again . Don't tournaments like this usually have a rule that you have to let the official casters cast you if they want to..? Meh. They asked the admins, they said they can't enforce it. What's the point in having rules if you don't enforce them? No appearantly it's in the rules that they can't force him. Oh. That makes more sense than what I thought you were implying =P EDIT: It's still very strange though. It's kinda like an EPL football team refusing to give access to Sky Sports on match-day even though Sky Sports are helping to fund the teams/tournament. ESL are putting on a tournament with a large amount of money and so should be able to broadcast any game they want from the tournament (qualifiers are part of the tournament). If players don't like that then they just shouldn't play. If that means KeSPA players choose not to play then so be it. Given that other players don't seem to have a problem with it, this just makes Flash look like a bit of a diva... It is important to note that we nor Fenner are the 'official' ESL casters, so it's possible if he makes it to day 2 THEN they will force him to be cast. Could still be wrong. Haven't seen someone go far enough to deny the official stream coverage in the first place. Flash might be the first?
TaKeTV is official and we are denied too. He apologized though. Still will probably rather quit than play. I think I've only casted him once.
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On August 11 2014 20:02 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2014 20:01 Musicus wrote:On August 11 2014 19:58 NarutO wrote:On August 11 2014 19:56 Circumstance wrote:On August 11 2014 19:52 NarutO wrote:On August 11 2014 19:48 Circumstance wrote:On August 11 2014 19:46 stuchiu wrote:On August 11 2014 19:40 rotta wrote:
Unleash the Flash! Flash doesn't like his fans enough to stream his games. Which is why he should not have fans. (At least, not nearly as many as he has.) But props to Dear for sticking up for the casters! Cry more. Its perfectly fine and his choice to deny casters. There is no rule as the admins said. No way to enforce it. As you can see, in Korea there are no replays uploaded for the qualifier which actually IS a rule. If you make strict rules, KeSPa teams and lots of players simply won't play. I'm not saying he should be forced. I'm saying he should follow the exampe of literally every other player we've seen and not be a jackass. Wanting to play under best conditions is not being a jackass. Asking a player to not play under best conditions is ESL wants to provide good games. If you enforce replays, I am willing to bet money that the KeSPa players won't take part. Yeah I think it's fine if he worries about cross server lag, but the replay thing really ticks me off, always did. They can't just stand above the rules. If they don't want to play, don't, but follow the rules. They show disrespect imo, they would/could never do that in a KeSPA tournament. Mostly I am angry at ESL for not enforcing the rules though.
Yeah I'd rather see them not take part then, I think they would come around eventually. Rules are rules and IEM and other foreign tournaments shoudl stop giving them special treatment or they will never change. Let them sit in Korea all year and sooner or later they will budge in I think.
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France7248 Posts
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On August 11 2014 20:04 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2014 20:02 NarutO wrote:On August 11 2014 20:01 Musicus wrote:On August 11 2014 19:58 NarutO wrote:On August 11 2014 19:56 Circumstance wrote:On August 11 2014 19:52 NarutO wrote:On August 11 2014 19:48 Circumstance wrote:On August 11 2014 19:46 stuchiu wrote:On August 11 2014 19:40 rotta wrote:
Unleash the Flash! Flash doesn't like his fans enough to stream his games. Which is why he should not have fans. (At least, not nearly as many as he has.) But props to Dear for sticking up for the casters! Cry more. Its perfectly fine and his choice to deny casters. There is no rule as the admins said. No way to enforce it. As you can see, in Korea there are no replays uploaded for the qualifier which actually IS a rule. If you make strict rules, KeSPa teams and lots of players simply won't play. I'm not saying he should be forced. I'm saying he should follow the exampe of literally every other player we've seen and not be a jackass. Wanting to play under best conditions is not being a jackass. Asking a player to not play under best conditions is ESL wants to provide good games. If you enforce replays, I am willing to bet money that the KeSPa players won't take part. Yeah I think it's fine if he worries about cross server lag, but the replay thing really ticks me off, always did. They can't just stand above the rules. If they don't want to play, don't, but follow the rules. They show disrespect imo, they would/could never do that in a KeSPA tournament. Mostly I am angry at ESL for not enforcing the rules though. Yeah I'd rather see them not take part then, I think they would come around eventually. Rules are rules and IEM and other foreign tournaments shoudl stop giving them special treatment or they will never change. Let them sit in Korea all year and sooner or later they will budge in I think.
Yes and we will miss all brilliant games. Not the price I would want to pay.
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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apparently, Effort is the only Zerg right know who knows how to ZvT.
to bad i missed his games
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On August 11 2014 20:01 rotta wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2014 19:56 Circumstance wrote:On August 11 2014 19:52 NarutO wrote:On August 11 2014 19:48 Circumstance wrote:On August 11 2014 19:46 stuchiu wrote:On August 11 2014 19:40 rotta wrote:
Unleash the Flash! Flash doesn't like his fans enough to stream his games. Which is why he should not have fans. (At least, not nearly as many as he has.) But props to Dear for sticking up for the casters! Cry more. Its perfectly fine and his choice to deny casters. There is no rule as the admins said. No way to enforce it. As you can see, in Korea there are no replays uploaded for the qualifier which actually IS a rule. If you make strict rules, KeSPa teams and lots of players simply won't play. I'm not saying he should be forced. I'm saying he should follow the exampe of literally every other player we've seen and not be a jackass. Ask not what the Flash can do for us, but what we can do for the Flash.
mock him endlessly for going cc first against both Hydra and Shine?
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France7248 Posts
On August 11 2014 20:06 Pandemona wrote: TY 2-0  TrapTY advances to final!
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