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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-24 22:52:57
June 24 2014 22:50 GMT
#121
On June 25 2014 07:49 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Have the SCV pull ever won a game? Like, you know, actually made the difference?


There was a period before Templar openings became the go to protoss build(s) when everyone was going 3 colossus into storm and getting killed basically every game.

Ever since the mine buff and comeback of colossus openings, yes but not nearly as many as there used to be.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 24 2014 22:52 GMT
#122
In conclusion, scv pulls are ok but it's easier than trying to play like Taeja.
Moderator
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 24 2014 22:52 GMT
#123
On June 25 2014 07:50 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 07:49 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Have the SCV pull ever won a game? Like, you know, actually made the difference?


There was a period before the raise of Templar openings when everyone was going 3 colossus into storm and getting killed basically every game.

Ever since the mine buff and comeback of colossus openings, yes but not nearly as many as there used to be.

Not to mention everyone is using builds that kill SCV pull builds. Exhibit A herO vs Flash.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
June 24 2014 22:53 GMT
#124
On June 25 2014 07:49 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 07:45 KelsierSC wrote:
Match 1

kr (P)Pigbaby vs kr (T)Heart

Game 3 - Overgrowth

00:00- Pigbaby spawns Top Right, Heart spawns Bottom Left


01:00- Again nothing too crazy, to begin with
Rax first this time
Gateway for PB

02:00-2nd rax being hidden from heart in his natural
cyber core for pig baby.
PB scouts the second rax!!!

03:00- warpgate research and a stalker begins

04:00- Heart bails out and then puts his 2nd command centre down
MSC on the way
PB drops his nexus.

05:00- Robo on the way for PB
all a bit quiete now.


06:00- stim begins for Heart
2 more gates for PB
factory and an engineering bay

07:00- observers and a robo bay for pb
Twilight council
ob scouting the base
heart with a bio move out
double forge

08:00- starport on the way and +1 attack
heart just taking central control.
Blink begins

09:00- 1/1 begins.
medivac production on the way
extra rax being added
no 3rd CC on the way

10:00- 1st collo is out
thermal lance begins
medivacs done, heart moving out
+1 armpur starts/
Pb with 5 observers!!
PB 110 - 110 heart
Zerg for Life
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
June 24 2014 22:53 GMT
#125
This map... I hate defending drops on this map.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
June 24 2014 22:53 GMT
#126
On June 25 2014 07:52 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 07:50 Teoita wrote:
On June 25 2014 07:49 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Have the SCV pull ever won a game? Like, you know, actually made the difference?


There was a period before the raise of Templar openings when everyone was going 3 colossus into storm and getting killed basically every game.

Ever since the mine buff and comeback of colossus openings, yes but not nearly as many as there used to be.

Not to mention everyone is using builds that kill SCV pull builds. Exhibit A herO vs Flash.


Yup, since then protosses have figured how to be safe vs scv pulls. Does make for slightly worse toss armies between 15 and 22ish minutes, but it's we are actually ok to say the least
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 24 2014 22:53 GMT
#127
5 observers... sounds very Rain-esque too me.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
June 24 2014 22:54 GMT
#128
Nooo he stole a gasprobe and added it to his army.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
dark1882
Profile Joined October 2012
Ireland529 Posts
June 24 2014 22:54 GMT
#129
i'm getting flash backs of a similar game on this map i can't remember who played, only that it crushed my soul
forge fast expand or die trying~Naniwa
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-24 22:55:07
June 24 2014 22:55 GMT
#130
On June 25 2014 07:53 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
5 observers... sounds very Rain-esque too me.


Observers are the best Protoss unit in PvT imo
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 24 2014 22:55 GMT
#131
On June 25 2014 07:55 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 07:53 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
5 observers... sounds very Rain-esque too me.


Observers are the best Protoss unit in PvT imo


Depends on the map. Sometimes its blink stalkers.
Moderator
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
June 24 2014 22:56 GMT
#132
On June 25 2014 07:55 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 07:53 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
5 observers... sounds very Rain-esque too me.


Observers are the best Protoss unit in PvT imo


It seems to me you need at least 4. Lotta gas. And if one gets scanned, it's a big loss tbh. You can't stop making collosi, because you die to pulls like on Frost before.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-24 22:56:26
June 24 2014 22:56 GMT
#133
True that at both. 3 Observers just don't cut it imo.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
June 24 2014 22:56 GMT
#134
On June 25 2014 07:53 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 07:49 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 25 2014 07:45 KelsierSC wrote:
Match 1

kr (P)Pigbaby vs kr (T)Heart

Game 3 - Overgrowth

00:00- Pigbaby spawns Top Right, Heart spawns Bottom Left


01:00- Again nothing too crazy, to begin with
Rax first this time
Gateway for PB

02:00-2nd rax being hidden from heart in his natural
cyber core for pig baby.
PB scouts the second rax!!!

03:00- warpgate research and a stalker begins

04:00- Heart bails out and then puts his 2nd command centre down
MSC on the way
PB drops his nexus.

05:00- Robo on the way for PB
all a bit quiete now.


06:00- stim begins for Heart
2 more gates for PB
factory and an engineering bay

07:00- observers and a robo bay for pb
Twilight council
ob scouting the base
heart with a bio move out
double forge

08:00- starport on the way and +1 attack
heart just taking central control.
Blink begins

09:00- 1/1 begins.
medivac production on the way
extra rax being added
no 3rd CC on the way

10:00- 1st collo is out
thermal lance begins
medivacs done, heart moving out
+1 armpur starts/
Pb with 5 observers!!
PB 110 - 110 heart


11:00- Heart moves into the natural but 2 collosus shut him down
2/2 starts for PB
PB throws down a 3rd base.
DOOM DROP!!!
PB SEES IT!!!!

12:00- GREAT BLINK
HE PICKS OFF A FULL MEDIVAC
3rd CC ont he way for heart
PB pushes heart back

13:00- +2 attack for Heart
the 3rd CC is spotted by PB
charge begins, more collo being added on

14:00- Heart going for a drop to the main whilst the army pushes the 3rd.
The drop in the main
no real warp ins!!!!
collo pops and helps defend

15:00- 3/3 begins for PB
warp prism on the way
heart standing at the centre.
ghosts on the way
PB 191 - 193 Heart

Zerg for Life
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
June 24 2014 22:56 GMT
#135
Who do I have to blow to get a banhammer on TL?
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-24 22:59:02
June 24 2014 22:57 GMT
#136
have scv pulls ever made a difference? :OOOO
i admit though that it was a very big overcommitment by pigbaby
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
June 24 2014 22:58 GMT
#137
BAM BAM BAM. Love me some Pigbaby bacon
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
June 24 2014 22:58 GMT
#138
Poll: Recommend Heart vs Pigbaby Game 3?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
 
17%

★★★- Good game (2)
 
33%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (3)
 
50%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Heart vs Pigbaby Game 3?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season


Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
June 24 2014 22:58 GMT
#139
On June 25 2014 07:56 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 07:53 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 25 2014 07:49 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 25 2014 07:45 KelsierSC wrote:
Match 1

kr (P)Pigbaby vs kr (T)Heart

Game 3 - Overgrowth

00:00- Pigbaby spawns Top Right, Heart spawns Bottom Left


01:00- Again nothing too crazy, to begin with
Rax first this time
Gateway for PB

02:00-2nd rax being hidden from heart in his natural
cyber core for pig baby.
PB scouts the second rax!!!

03:00- warpgate research and a stalker begins

04:00- Heart bails out and then puts his 2nd command centre down
MSC on the way
PB drops his nexus.

05:00- Robo on the way for PB
all a bit quiete now.


06:00- stim begins for Heart
2 more gates for PB
factory and an engineering bay

07:00- observers and a robo bay for pb
Twilight council
ob scouting the base
heart with a bio move out
double forge

08:00- starport on the way and +1 attack
heart just taking central control.
Blink begins

09:00- 1/1 begins.
medivac production on the way
extra rax being added
no 3rd CC on the way

10:00- 1st collo is out
thermal lance begins
medivacs done, heart moving out
+1 armpur starts/
Pb with 5 observers!!
PB 110 - 110 heart


11:00- Heart moves into the natural but 2 collosus shut him down
2/2 starts for PB
PB throws down a 3rd base.
DOOM DROP!!!
PB SEES IT!!!!

12:00- GREAT BLINK
HE PICKS OFF A FULL MEDIVAC
3rd CC ont he way for heart
PB pushes heart back

13:00- +2 attack for Heart
the 3rd CC is spotted by PB
charge begins, more collo being added on

14:00- Heart going for a drop to the main whilst the army pushes the 3rd.
The drop in the main
no real warp ins!!!!
collo pops and helps defend

15:00- 3/3 begins for PB
warp prism on the way
heart standing at the centre.
ghosts on the way
PB 191 - 193 Heart



16:00- HEART PULLING HIS SCV'S
PB marches down the ramp!!
ENGAGEMENT IN THE MIUDDLE!!!!!!!!!!
COLLO ARE FALLING
ALL THE COLLO ARE DOWN
TOO MUCH BIO!!!!
HEART STILL PUSHING!!!!

17:00- COLLO ON THE HIGH GROUND
marauder drop on the collo and kill it
heart pushes through!!
GG

Heart 2 - 1 PB
Zerg for Life
imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
June 24 2014 22:58 GMT
#140
Heart such gosu
Bbyong | MMA | Polt | Dream | Maru | Mvp
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