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Italy12246 Posts
On June 25 2014 07:49 AlternativeEgo wrote: Have the SCV pull ever won a game? Like, you know, actually made the difference?
There was a period before Templar openings became the go to protoss build(s) when everyone was going 3 colossus into storm and getting killed basically every game.
Ever since the mine buff and comeback of colossus openings, yes but not nearly as many as there used to be.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
In conclusion, scv pulls are ok but it's easier than trying to play like Taeja.
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On June 25 2014 07:50 Teoita wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 07:49 AlternativeEgo wrote: Have the SCV pull ever won a game? Like, you know, actually made the difference? There was a period before the raise of Templar openings when everyone was going 3 colossus into storm and getting killed basically every game. Ever since the mine buff and comeback of colossus openings, yes but not nearly as many as there used to be. Not to mention everyone is using builds that kill SCV pull builds. Exhibit A herO vs Flash.
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United Kingdom10443 Posts
On June 25 2014 07:49 KelsierSC wrote:01:00- Again nothing too crazy, to begin with Rax first this time Gateway for PB 02:00-2nd rax being hidden from heart in his natural cyber core for pig baby. PB scouts the second rax!!! 03:00- warpgate research and a stalker begins 04:00- Heart bails out and then puts his 2nd command centre down MSC on the way PB drops his nexus. 05:00- Robo on the way for PB all a bit quiete now.
06:00- stim begins for Heart 2 more gates for PB factory and an engineering bay
07:00- observers and a robo bay for pb Twilight council ob scouting the base heart with a bio move out double forge
08:00- starport on the way and +1 attack heart just taking central control. Blink begins
09:00- 1/1 begins. medivac production on the way extra rax being added no 3rd CC on the way
10:00- 1st collo is out thermal lance begins medivacs done, heart moving out +1 armpur starts/ Pb with 5 observers!! PB 110 - 110 heart
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This map... I hate defending drops on this map.
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Italy12246 Posts
On June 25 2014 07:52 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 07:50 Teoita wrote:On June 25 2014 07:49 AlternativeEgo wrote: Have the SCV pull ever won a game? Like, you know, actually made the difference? There was a period before the raise of Templar openings when everyone was going 3 colossus into storm and getting killed basically every game. Ever since the mine buff and comeback of colossus openings, yes but not nearly as many as there used to be. Not to mention everyone is using builds that kill SCV pull builds. Exhibit A herO vs Flash.
Yup, since then protosses have figured how to be safe vs scv pulls. Does make for slightly worse toss armies between 15 and 22ish minutes, but it's we are actually ok to say the least
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5 observers... sounds very Rain-esque too me.
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Nooo he stole a gasprobe and added it to his army.
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i'm getting flash backs of a similar game on this map i can't remember who played, only that it crushed my soul
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Italy12246 Posts
On June 25 2014 07:53 KingofdaHipHop wrote: 5 observers... sounds very Rain-esque too me.
Observers are the best Protoss unit in PvT imo
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On June 25 2014 07:55 Teoita wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 07:53 KingofdaHipHop wrote: 5 observers... sounds very Rain-esque too me. Observers are the best Protoss unit in PvT imo
Depends on the map. Sometimes its blink stalkers.
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On June 25 2014 07:55 Teoita wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 07:53 KingofdaHipHop wrote: 5 observers... sounds very Rain-esque too me. Observers are the best Protoss unit in PvT imo
It seems to me you need at least 4. Lotta gas. And if one gets scanned, it's a big loss tbh. You can't stop making collosi, because you die to pulls like on Frost before.
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Italy12246 Posts
True that at both. 3 Observers just don't cut it imo.
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United Kingdom10443 Posts
On June 25 2014 07:53 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 07:49 KelsierSC wrote:01:00- Again nothing too crazy, to begin with Rax first this time Gateway for PB 02:00-2nd rax being hidden from heart in his natural cyber core for pig baby. PB scouts the second rax!!! 03:00- warpgate research and a stalker begins 04:00- Heart bails out and then puts his 2nd command centre down MSC on the way PB drops his nexus. 05:00- Robo on the way for PB all a bit quiete now. 06:00- stim begins for Heart 2 more gates for PB factory and an engineering bay 07:00- observers and a robo bay for pb Twilight council ob scouting the base heart with a bio move out double forge 08:00- starport on the way and +1 attack heart just taking central control. Blink begins 09:00- 1/1 begins. medivac production on the way extra rax being added no 3rd CC on the way 10:00- 1st collo is out thermal lance begins medivacs done, heart moving out +1 armpur starts/ Pb with 5 observers!! PB 110 - 110 heart
11:00- Heart moves into the natural but 2 collosus shut him down 2/2 starts for PB PB throws down a 3rd base. DOOM DROP!!! PB SEES IT!!!!
12:00- GREAT BLINK HE PICKS OFF A FULL MEDIVAC 3rd CC ont he way for heart PB pushes heart back
13:00- +2 attack for Heart the 3rd CC is spotted by PB charge begins, more collo being added on
14:00- Heart going for a drop to the main whilst the army pushes the 3rd. The drop in the main no real warp ins!!!! collo pops and helps defend
15:00- 3/3 begins for PB warp prism on the way heart standing at the centre. ghosts on the way PB 191 - 193 Heart
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Who do I have to blow to get a banhammer on TL?
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have scv pulls ever made a difference? :OOOO i admit though that it was a very big overcommitment by pigbaby
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BAM BAM BAM. Love me some Pigbaby bacon
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your Country52797 Posts
Poll: Recommend Heart vs Pigbaby Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 17% ★★★- Good game (2) 33% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (3) 50% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend Heart vs Pigbaby Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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United Kingdom10443 Posts
On June 25 2014 07:56 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 07:53 KelsierSC wrote:On June 25 2014 07:49 KelsierSC wrote:01:00- Again nothing too crazy, to begin with Rax first this time Gateway for PB 02:00-2nd rax being hidden from heart in his natural cyber core for pig baby. PB scouts the second rax!!! 03:00- warpgate research and a stalker begins 04:00- Heart bails out and then puts his 2nd command centre down MSC on the way PB drops his nexus. 05:00- Robo on the way for PB all a bit quiete now. 06:00- stim begins for Heart 2 more gates for PB factory and an engineering bay 07:00- observers and a robo bay for pb Twilight council ob scouting the base heart with a bio move out double forge 08:00- starport on the way and +1 attack heart just taking central control. Blink begins 09:00- 1/1 begins. medivac production on the way extra rax being added no 3rd CC on the way 10:00- 1st collo is out thermal lance begins medivacs done, heart moving out +1 armpur starts/ Pb with 5 observers!! PB 110 - 110 heart 11:00- Heart moves into the natural but 2 collosus shut him down 2/2 starts for PB PB throws down a 3rd base. DOOM DROP!!! PB SEES IT!!!! 12:00- GREAT BLINK HE PICKS OFF A FULL MEDIVAC 3rd CC ont he way for heart PB pushes heart back 13:00- +2 attack for Heart the 3rd CC is spotted by PB charge begins, more collo being added on 14:00- Heart going for a drop to the main whilst the army pushes the 3rd. The drop in the main no real warp ins!!!! collo pops and helps defend 15:00- 3/3 begins for PB warp prism on the way heart standing at the centre. ghosts on the way PB 191 - 193 Heart
16:00- HEART PULLING HIS SCV'S PB marches down the ramp!! ENGAGEMENT IN THE MIUDDLE!!!!!!!!!! COLLO ARE FALLING ALL THE COLLO ARE DOWN TOO MUCH BIO!!!! HEART STILL PUSHING!!!!
17:00- COLLO ON THE HIGH GROUND marauder drop on the collo and kill it heart pushes through!! GG
Heart 2 - 1 PB
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