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On May 22 2014 06:03 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 05:59 Waise wrote:On May 22 2014 05:58 boxerfred wrote:
Actually, Scarlett's greed for gas killed her. She could've remaxed if she hadn't lost her third, she had like 1k gas banked and literally 0 minerals at the same time. yeah but she lost the third because she couldn't win a fight with the mutas... and she was greedy for gas because she was going mass muta... so On May 22 2014 05:59 Oboeman wrote:a ton of her banelings were stuck behind rocks in bases 4 and 5 so she didnt even get to use them in the fight  relying on banelings against an army with infestors in it is so dicey anyway Was a great game though. One of the best ZvZ's I've seen in HotS so far. I love those baneling fights, and that was a great display of quality (+1/+1) vs. quantity (double gas baneling pressure). Really great action!
oh for sure, mass muta is exciting to watch, i love mutas myself. i just don't understand how she was supposed to win. seems like her ultra transition was way too late. i think either swarm hosts like someone else said or going into roaches after she pushed TLO back the first time would have been a better option. i'm really curious to see a VOD or something of her playing this on ladder and beating good players
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On May 22 2014 06:03 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 06:00 DBS wrote:
That was a pretty sick game from both sides, though scarlett definitely made some micro errors It's way way harder to micro mass mutas against infestor/hydra than the other way around though.
You can, but yuo'd need to be Toodming and get a 360 surround.
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On May 22 2014 06:01 Musicus wrote:nice viewer count for a ro32 nation war 
Ro16 but yeah it rocks !
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On May 22 2014 06:04 Leviance wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 06:03 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On May 22 2014 06:02 Squat wrote:On May 22 2014 06:00 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On May 22 2014 05:59 Squat wrote:
Felt like she was just kind of goofing around with a ladder build there. Oh well, now she can go to bed and let someone else actually play. Still a fantastic day from her. What if they need her for ace though? If that happens HuK and Desrow fucked up pretty badly. No offense to Desrow, but I don't think he can touch TLO. Huk is our hope now. TLO has lost to worse Protosses
Maybe during his darker days, but TLO is extremely good these days again
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That was a fun game though. Maybe Scarlett should have transitioned to something beyond mass muta, but hindsight is always right. 8-1 for the day, and a very successful day of games for her.
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On May 22 2014 06:04 Boucot wrote:Ro16 but yeah it rocks !
Yeah, well first round :D.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On May 22 2014 06:04 Leviance wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 06:03 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On May 22 2014 06:02 Squat wrote:On May 22 2014 06:00 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On May 22 2014 05:59 Squat wrote:
Felt like she was just kind of goofing around with a ladder build there. Oh well, now she can go to bed and let someone else actually play. Still a fantastic day from her. What if they need her for ace though? If that happens HuK and Desrow fucked up pretty badly. No offense to Desrow, but I don't think he can touch TLO. Huk is our hope now. TLO has lost to worse Protosses
Inori, the worst GSTL player of all time beat Stephano in his prime. Never forget.
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On May 22 2014 06:04 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 06:03 Squat wrote:On May 22 2014 06:00 DBS wrote:
That was a pretty sick game from both sides, though scarlett definitely made some micro errors It's way way harder to micro mass mutas against infestor/hydra than the other way around though. You can, but yuo'd need to be Toodming and get a 360 surround.
Or be JD and attack 5 infestor with mutas and get hit with 0 fungals. I still watch that gif in amazement.
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On May 22 2014 06:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 06:04 Leviance wrote:On May 22 2014 06:03 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On May 22 2014 06:02 Squat wrote:On May 22 2014 06:00 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On May 22 2014 05:59 Squat wrote:
Felt like she was just kind of goofing around with a ladder build there. Oh well, now she can go to bed and let someone else actually play. Still a fantastic day from her. What if they need her for ace though? If that happens HuK and Desrow fucked up pretty badly. No offense to Desrow, but I don't think he can touch TLO. Huk is our hope now. TLO has lost to worse Protosses Maybe during his darker days, but TLO is extremely good these days again
His ZvP is abysmal. Look at aligulac: ZvT 1719 Pts. ZvZ 1616 Pts. ZvP 1566 Pts.
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United States97277 Posts
On May 22 2014 06:03 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 06:02 Squat wrote:On May 22 2014 06:00 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On May 22 2014 05:59 Squat wrote:
Felt like she was just kind of goofing around with a ladder build there. Oh well, now she can go to bed and let someone else actually play. Still a fantastic day from her. What if they need her for ace though? If that happens HuK and Desrow fucked up pretty badly. No offense to Desrow, but I don't think he can touch TLO. Huk is our hope now.
roll the dice on some DTs maybe
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On May 22 2014 06:04 Leviance wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 06:03 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On May 22 2014 06:02 Squat wrote:On May 22 2014 06:00 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On May 22 2014 05:59 Squat wrote:
Felt like she was just kind of goofing around with a ladder build there. Oh well, now she can go to bed and let someone else actually play. Still a fantastic day from her. What if they need her for ace though? If that happens HuK and Desrow fucked up pretty badly. No offense to Desrow, but I don't think he can touch TLO. Huk is our hope now. TLO has lost to worse Protosses
i'm pretty sure TLO refuses to use swarm hosts for the specific purpose of convincing protoss that we need them to survive. watching him get annihilated in WCS EU because he tried to keep going roach/hydra/viper/ultra against a protoss deathball hurt my heart badly
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Khaldor insulting maple syrup is definitely fighting words.
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United States97277 Posts
On May 22 2014 06:05 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 06:04 Leviance wrote:On May 22 2014 06:03 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On May 22 2014 06:02 Squat wrote:On May 22 2014 06:00 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On May 22 2014 05:59 Squat wrote:
Felt like she was just kind of goofing around with a ladder build there. Oh well, now she can go to bed and let someone else actually play. Still a fantastic day from her. What if they need her for ace though? If that happens HuK and Desrow fucked up pretty badly. No offense to Desrow, but I don't think he can touch TLO. Huk is our hope now. TLO has lost to worse Protosses Inori, the worst GSTL player of all time beat Stephano in his prime. Never forget.
I wish Inori vs J happened
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On May 22 2014 06:06 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 06:03 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On May 22 2014 06:02 Squat wrote:On May 22 2014 06:00 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On May 22 2014 05:59 Squat wrote:
Felt like she was just kind of goofing around with a ladder build there. Oh well, now she can go to bed and let someone else actually play. Still a fantastic day from her. What if they need her for ace though? If that happens HuK and Desrow fucked up pretty badly. No offense to Desrow, but I don't think he can touch TLO. Huk is our hope now. roll the dice on some DTs maybe
Praying to Inca is always a solution.
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On May 22 2014 06:04 Waise wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 06:03 boxerfred wrote:On May 22 2014 05:59 Waise wrote:On May 22 2014 05:58 boxerfred wrote:
Actually, Scarlett's greed for gas killed her. She could've remaxed if she hadn't lost her third, she had like 1k gas banked and literally 0 minerals at the same time. yeah but she lost the third because she couldn't win a fight with the mutas... and she was greedy for gas because she was going mass muta... so On May 22 2014 05:59 Oboeman wrote:a ton of her banelings were stuck behind rocks in bases 4 and 5 so she didnt even get to use them in the fight relying on banelings against an army with infestors in it is so dicey anyway Was a great game though. One of the best ZvZ's I've seen in HotS so far. I love those baneling fights, and that was a great display of quality (+1/+1) vs. quantity (double gas baneling pressure). Really great action! oh for sure, mass muta is exciting to watch, i love mutas myself. i just don't understand how she was supposed to win. seems like her ultra transition was way too late. i think either swarm hosts like someone else said or going into roaches after she pushed TLO back the first time would have been a better option. i'm really curious to see a VOD or something of her playing this on ladder and beating good players
I feel like a pre-spread would've helped. Form a half circle, then a move while microing banelings/small groups of mutas to prevent clumping. Or, for the sake of ZvT, baneling landmines  .
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On May 22 2014 06:06 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 06:04 stuchiu wrote:On May 22 2014 06:03 Squat wrote:On May 22 2014 06:00 DBS wrote:
That was a pretty sick game from both sides, though scarlett definitely made some micro errors It's way way harder to micro mass mutas against infestor/hydra than the other way around though. You can, but yuo'd need to be Toodming and get a 360 surround. Or be JD and attack 5 infestor with mutas and get hit with 0 fungals. I still watch that gif in amazement.
to be honest in the first engagement scarlett had insane muta splits, the first fungal literally went right between two flocks of mutas that both just curved around it. that's why i was so surprised she didn't pull off any more sick micro in the second fight
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Question, if Huk and desrow lose and Scarlett comes back out for the ace match and wins, is it an all kill?
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On May 22 2014 06:07 Waise wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 06:06 Squat wrote:On May 22 2014 06:04 stuchiu wrote:On May 22 2014 06:03 Squat wrote:On May 22 2014 06:00 DBS wrote:
That was a pretty sick game from both sides, though scarlett definitely made some micro errors It's way way harder to micro mass mutas against infestor/hydra than the other way around though. You can, but yuo'd need to be Toodming and get a 360 surround. Or be JD and attack 5 infestor with mutas and get hit with 0 fungals. I still watch that gif in amazement. to be honest in the first engagement scarlett had insane muta splits, the first fungal literally went right between two flocks of mutas that both just curved around it. that's why i was so surprised she didn't pull off any more sick micro in the second fight
ya that first engagement made it look like that muta ball would actually do it, but the second big one... not so much
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On May 22 2014 06:07 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Question, if Huk and desrow lose and Scarlett comes back out for the ace match and wins, is it an all kill?
Based on last season of ATC, I would say yes.
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