On May 18 2014 19:28 SamuelGreen wrote:
Effort is not supposed to be this good...
Effort is not supposed to be this good...
Well, he did reverse sweep Flash once.
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Pangpootata
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On May 18 2014 19:28 SamuelGreen wrote: Effort is not supposed to be this good... Well, he did reverse sweep Flash once. | ||
TW
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TameNaken
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GTPGlitch
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On May 18 2014 19:31 Ctesias wrote: Effort is 2-9 this season. *2-8 he was 1-8 yesterday, won one and didn't lose | ||
juvenal
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On May 18 2014 19:30 ReMinD_ wrote: Maybe now we no longer have to listen about 'Flash's godlike TvZ'. silly haters, you prefer stories about maru's one? | ||
diverzee
Sweden992 Posts
On May 18 2014 19:30 bartus88 wrote: Flash beating Protoss and losing against Zerg? Weird day. All terrans struggle against zerg, but PvT does not seem to favour protoss anymore. We should thus all have listened to our whining prophet Rain! | ||
Ctesias
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On May 18 2014 19:32 GTPGlitch wrote: Show nested quote + On May 18 2014 19:31 Ctesias wrote: On May 18 2014 19:30 FFW_Rude wrote: So what's his WR now ? Effort is 2-9 this season. *2-8 he was 1-8 yesterday, won one and didn't lose Yeah, my bad. | ||
GTPGlitch
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On May 18 2014 19:32 TW wrote: That is why Tvz is a total bullshit right now. If T loses 5 hellions the game is over. No, if T overdedicates to hellions that he loses for literally nothing, he can't safely take a third which generally snowballs into a big advantage for zerg I mean, not sure if you noticed, but Effort had more mutas than Flash had marines after the death of the hellions... | ||
RouaF
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Philozovic
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On May 18 2014 19:32 TW wrote: That is why Tvz is a total bullshit right now. If T loses 5 hellions the game is over. Not saying that TvZ is what it used to be, but fash way overproduced hellion against a queen opening | ||
HolydaKing
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On May 18 2014 19:32 TW wrote: That is why Tvz is a total bullshit right now. If T loses 5 hellions the game is over. And if the 5 hellions kill 20 drones the game is over too. | ||
Emerson_H
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DifuntO
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On May 18 2014 19:32 diverzee wrote: Show nested quote + On May 18 2014 19:30 bartus88 wrote: Flash beating Protoss and losing against Zerg? Weird day. All terrans struggle against zerg, but PvT does not seem to favour protoss anymore. We should thus all have listened to our whining prophet Rain! But what caused this change in the metagame? | ||
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
On May 18 2014 19:34 DifuntO wrote: Show nested quote + On May 18 2014 19:32 diverzee wrote: On May 18 2014 19:30 bartus88 wrote: Flash beating Protoss and losing against Zerg? Weird day. All terrans struggle against zerg, but PvT does not seem to favour protoss anymore. We should thus all have listened to our whining prophet Rain! But what caused this change in the metagame? Mine buff and maps not favoring blink anymore I still don't think PvT is terran favored though. It just isn't as protoss favored anymore | ||
robson1
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On May 18 2014 19:34 DifuntO wrote: Show nested quote + On May 18 2014 19:32 diverzee wrote: On May 18 2014 19:30 bartus88 wrote: Flash beating Protoss and losing against Zerg? Weird day. All terrans struggle against zerg, but PvT does not seem to favour protoss anymore. We should thus all have listened to our whining prophet Rain! But what caused this change in the metagame? PvT = New Mines make templar openings way way harder to pull off TvZ = Just got figured out a bit better by the zergs, who adapted a more defensive style. | ||
juvenal
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On May 18 2014 19:33 HolydaKing wrote: Show nested quote + On May 18 2014 19:32 TW wrote: That is why Tvz is a total bullshit right now. If T loses 5 hellions the game is over. And if the 5 hellions kill 20 drones the game is over too. yeah the infamous "drones only" build is hard countered by hellion openers ![]() | ||
Lunareste
United States3596 Posts
SC2 fighting ;_; | ||
Noonius
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Glorfindel!
Sweden1815 Posts
On May 18 2014 19:33 GTPGlitch wrote: Show nested quote + On May 18 2014 19:32 TW wrote: That is why Tvz is a total bullshit right now. If T loses 5 hellions the game is over. No, if T overdedicates to hellions that he loses for literally nothing, he can't safely take a third which generally snowballs into a big advantage for zerg I mean, not sure if you noticed, but Effort had more mutas than Flash had marines after the death of the hellions... Well even if Flash had kept his Hellions alive it had not mattered at all. What was deciding that game was that Flash went for a pressure build, 3x Reapers, Hellions and Cloaked banshee and made no damage what so ever since Effort had 4 Queens, kept transfusing and took no damage since he made the right units. When Flash build got stifled, he was almost dead I feel. As you point it, since he could not make any damage there was 5 Marines at the time 9 Mutas came out. The few hellions he lost had not changed that. | ||
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