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Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
April 27 2014 11:12 GMT
#1021
On April 27 2014 20:11 liberate71 wrote:
Most awkward interview background ever.

I feel like that guy is checking me out through the computer.
ReMinD_
Profile Joined May 2013
Croatia846 Posts
April 27 2014 11:12 GMT
#1022
Did Hyun beat JD in their last ZvZ? If so, that means Snute > Hyun > JD, therefore should be easy win for Snute.
Parting: Well, even I can make better maps than these.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
April 27 2014 11:12 GMT
#1023
Meanwhile in pro league

sOs going Mothership in a Phoenix vs Phoenix war

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TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
April 27 2014 11:12 GMT
#1024
WELMUUU
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1415 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-27 11:13:06
April 27 2014 11:12 GMT
#1025
On April 27 2014 20:11 Ctesias wrote:
Well, Jaedong was bound to win that series. Good thing Artosis and Incontrol could keep the second game somewhat entertaining with their commentating.

the great walk of the spine crawlers killed me.
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
April 27 2014 11:12 GMT
#1026
JD good engrish!
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
April 27 2014 11:12 GMT
#1027
On April 27 2014 20:12 Lorning wrote:
Meanwhile in pro league

sOs going Mothership in a Phoenix vs Phoenix war


you really want us to watch pl
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-27 11:13:02
April 27 2014 11:12 GMT
#1028
On April 27 2014 20:12 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 20:11 liberate71 wrote:
Most awkward interview background ever.

I feel like that guy is checking me out through the computer.


I know right. I felt like I had something on my shirt
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Mambo
Profile Joined February 2012
Denmark1338 Posts
April 27 2014 11:13 GMT
#1029
On April 27 2014 20:11 pure.Wasted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 20:08 Lorning wrote:
On April 27 2014 20:07 Lorning wrote:
Poll: Recommend Zanster vs Jaedong Game 2?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (3)
 
8%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
 
5%

★★★- Good game (3)
 
8%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (3)
 
8%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (29)
 
73%

40 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Zanster vs Jaedong Game 2?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season


Poll: Recommend Zanster vs Jaedong Game 3?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (2)
 
9%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
 
13%

★★★- Good game (2)
 
9%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (3)
 
13%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (13)
 
57%

23 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Zanster vs Jaedong Game 3?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season




What in the planet Earth...

You guys actually enjoy that BL/infestor imitationry, or just trolling latecomers?

I quite enjoyed it because i haven't seen it much. Kinda like mech V mech.
Boxer | MVP | Taeja | TLO | Grubby | Bunny (danish)
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
April 27 2014 11:13 GMT
#1030
On April 27 2014 19:59 SatedSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 19:56 Rollora wrote:
On April 27 2014 19:49 SatedSC2 wrote:
On April 27 2014 19:40 Rollora wrote:
On April 27 2014 19:28 SatedSC2 wrote:
On April 27 2014 19:27 YyapSsap wrote:
Protoss is very good against terrans these days.

If you say so.

you cannot balance the game around winrates cause it just doesn't reflect the players skill therefore not balance. If you make a ladder system, that ranks you up and down depending on your winrate, ofc you'll always have 50% winrate and therefore are "balanced", although you may be only 5 years old and press the same button all over again, and the other player is a 20 yo korean pro. So would that be balance?
Winrates don't prove anything by themself.

They're not ladder win-rates. They're tournament win-rates.

If you prefer then you can look at the performance chart below the win-rates. It shows how well players are performing compared to what their Aligulac ratings predict. It's pretty accurate, as you can see from the ridiculously consistent period of "over-performance" Zerg players have on that chart during the BL/Infestor era. None of the races are currently "over-performing" consistently, which I think is a good indicator of balance.

On April 27 2014 19:42 pure.Wasted wrote:
On April 27 2014 19:35 SatedSC2 wrote:
On April 27 2014 19:31 pure.Wasted wrote:
On April 27 2014 19:28 SatedSC2 wrote:
On April 27 2014 19:27 YyapSsap wrote:
Protoss is very good against terrans these days.

If you say so.


Why don't you pull out David Kim's balance numbers while you're at it.

You realize that if the game is down to just Maru being able to compete, as long as he can beat D-level Protoss in "really really close games" it's going to be 50/50, right?

Aligulac tracks pretty much all tournament results. It is far from MaruvP.


Yes, but there aren't as many Terrans to track!!! When MMA makes a deep tournament run beating up 10 crappy foreign Protoss and Zerg in the process, Terran win percentage is artificially inflated! There are not as many crappy foreign Terrans to beat up. PvT winrate does not get inflated the same way. The Maru example was just a simplification of what is going on, there are fewer Terrans and this skews the balance numbers like craaazy.

700+ games is plenty of games. It's across a wide variety of skill ranges and comes only from tournaments. Please don't try to make a sample size argument again.

like I said. it doesnt matter if the winrates are from ladder or tourney, if one race is easier to play this will also make tournament wins, right? and if you get to tournament because the races are balanced around 50% winrate, not what you do while winning (like APM but not in the ingame way, like REAL actions you need to use for the win), it doesn't matter. The game will always have 50% with this system. Tournament or ladder doesn't matter cause you get promoted to the tournament because of the winrate based balance system that is simply wrong.
As stated, if you get to korean GM and later to Code S with like lesser effort, you will also get through tournaments with lesser effort but also only with a 50% winrate because others that advanced so far are there because of their 50% winrate - even though more effort put into the games. So the winrate based system is just not right alone

I don't follow your argument whatsoever. Neither the win-rate chart nor the performance chart show signs of imbalance; if you have some other metric that you'd like to detect imbalance by then please provide some statistics..?

if the performance chart is based around the 50% winrate, it is obsolete.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-27 11:14:19
April 27 2014 11:14 GMT
#1031
On April 27 2014 20:12 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 20:12 Lorning wrote:
Meanwhile in pro league

sOs going Mothership in a Phoenix vs Phoenix war


you really want us to watch pl

I'm recommending people something to watch during the downtime between DH games
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
April 27 2014 11:14 GMT
#1032
Wow, Snute actually 2-0'ed Hyun?

Can we say Snutejwa already?
LiquipediaWanderer
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
April 27 2014 11:14 GMT
#1033
"Just look at the top left"
*pause*

Dat pause.
Yargh
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-27 11:14:35
April 27 2014 11:14 GMT
#1034
Never seen phoenix vs phoenix this late, pretty cool

edit: whoops wrong thread (SPL)
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
April 27 2014 11:14 GMT
#1035
Classic vs sOs is worth watching. Mass Phoenix on maze.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Mambo
Profile Joined February 2012
Denmark1338 Posts
April 27 2014 11:15 GMT
#1036
On April 27 2014 20:14 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 20:12 Undead1993 wrote:
On April 27 2014 20:12 Lorning wrote:
Meanwhile in pro league

sOs going Mothership in a Phoenix vs Phoenix war


you really want us to watch pl

I'm recommending people something to watch during the downtime between DH games
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

There is another stream with another game playing. Bunny vs ToD.
Boxer | MVP | Taeja | TLO | Grubby | Bunny (danish)
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 27 2014 11:15 GMT
#1037
On April 27 2014 20:14 Ragnarork wrote:
Wow, Snute actually 2-0'ed Hyun?

Can we say Snutejwa already?

Snute almost always beats HyuN though
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SpawnMoarOverlords
Profile Joined April 2014
400 Posts
April 27 2014 11:15 GMT
#1038
On April 27 2014 20:14 Ragnarork wrote:
Wow, Snute actually 2-0'ed Hyun?

Can we say Snutejwa already?


Not really a big surprise. He won 4-1 at SeatStory Cup.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
April 27 2014 11:15 GMT
#1039
Meanwhile, Bunny is handling ToD with marines. Hahaha :D
LiquipediaWanderer
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
April 27 2014 11:16 GMT
#1040
Poor ToD, completely destroyed.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
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