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On April 14 2014 06:16 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 06:15 Makro wrote:On April 14 2014 06:15 Aeromi wrote:On April 14 2014 06:14 Boucot wrote:On April 14 2014 06:12 Aeromi wrote:On April 14 2014 06:11 Makro wrote:On April 14 2014 06:10 Boucot wrote: Come on Jean-Michel ! what? Mvp = Jurgen duckdeok = Filipo ( no idea ) MMA = Jean-Michel Huh no it's MC : Jean-Michel is for Jang Min Chul Jang Min Chul. xD OMG IT MAKES SENSE But what happens when Soulkey plays in EU? Sergei Kadnikov?
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MMA has some opportunities for harass.
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On April 14 2014 06:15 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 06:14 ThomasjServo wrote:On April 14 2014 06:13 GumBa wrote: Another twilight build D: Lets see if he makes a tank. Nah tanks are trash
Not proxy tanks, ask TB!
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On April 14 2014 06:17 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 06:16 liberate71 wrote:On April 14 2014 06:16 stuchiu wrote:On April 14 2014 06:15 Makro wrote:On April 14 2014 06:15 Aeromi wrote:On April 14 2014 06:14 Boucot wrote:On April 14 2014 06:12 Aeromi wrote:On April 14 2014 06:11 Makro wrote:On April 14 2014 06:10 Boucot wrote: Come on Jean-Michel ! what? Mvp = Jurgen duckdeok = Filipo ( no idea ) MMA = Jean-Michel Huh no it's MC : Jean-Michel is for Jang Min Chul Jang Min Chul. xD OMG IT MAKES SENSE But what happens when Soulkey plays in EU? Hey, we're being serious here. He's lost all of his power since joining SKT, it could happen!
True, he can be like the Solar of SKT
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On April 14 2014 06:16 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 06:15 Makro wrote:On April 14 2014 06:15 Aeromi wrote:On April 14 2014 06:14 Boucot wrote:On April 14 2014 06:12 Aeromi wrote:On April 14 2014 06:11 Makro wrote:On April 14 2014 06:10 Boucot wrote: Come on Jean-Michel ! what? Mvp = Jurgen duckdeok = Filipo ( no idea ) MMA = Jean-Michel Huh no it's MC : Jean-Michel is for Jang Min Chul Jang Min Chul. xD OMG IT MAKES SENSE But what happens when Soulkey plays in EU? Hans.
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MMA should mix some scv pull
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On April 14 2014 06:15 GTPGlitch wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 06:13 forsooth wrote:On April 14 2014 06:10 GTPGlitch wrote:On April 14 2014 06:09 forsooth wrote: As a longtime MC fan and a longtime MMA anti-fan I must betray Terran and root for MC to take this. How can you be an MMA anti-fan?D: He crushed the IM monopoly and brought forth some of the best games in history DDDDD: He had a bad habit of getting in Mvp's way in late 2011, kept him from getting the dual GSL/Blizzcon title. Been rooting for him to lose ever since. Just because MVP sucks compared to MMA doesn't mean you have to be an mma anti fan :p 0/10
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your Country52797 Posts
On April 14 2014 06:14 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 06:10 The_Templar wrote:WCS EU Premier Grand Finals
MC vs MMA 3-2
Map: Polar Night MC spawns in the top MMA spawns in the bottom 2:00 Reaper first for MMA. MC getting one gas after a gateway. 3:00 Cybernetics core for MC. Reactor on MMA's barracks. 4:00 MMA and MC both expand. Two more barracks for MMA. MC getting a twilight council in his main. 5:00 MMA trying to scout with his reaper. Blink for MC. Reaper is denied. Chronoboost on blink research. 6:00 MMA scans and sees the blink research. MC moves up a ramp into a blink trap and loses a stalker. MC loses the proxy probe.
7:00 MC 48 vs MMA 56 MC getting a forge. Stim is half done. Factory on the way for MMA. MMA getting a second gas. MC proxying a pylon.
8:00 MC 63 vs MMA 70 MC moving his stalkers and about to find marines. MC finds random marines in the top right and kills them.
9:00 MC 77 vs MMA 85 Templar archives for MC. MC getting 3 more gateways and a robotics facility. Charge is half done and +1 armor finishes for MC. MMA getting medivacs and MM with mines.
10:00 MC 85 vs MMA 95 Drop goes over a pylon and the widow mine is revealed.
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On April 14 2014 06:17 Faust852 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 06:14 Heartland wrote:On April 14 2014 06:12 Faust852 wrote:On April 14 2014 06:08 scypio wrote:On April 14 2014 06:05 Faust852 wrote:On April 14 2014 06:03 nkr wrote:On April 14 2014 06:02 NKexquisite wrote: Since when does TotalBiscuits opinion matter? since he's the most helpful single character in the scene Yeah but please, he can keep his opinion about the game in itself for himself, that would be great. No, just no. It is great that TB is here and that he shares his passion about the game (even thou he may be wrong sometimes). Yeah, so do us. Why are we the bad rabbit when we disagree with him. He doesn't play the game and his only source of imformation is Crank and Alicia, both players that don't know how to put a 3rd nexus in a game and then claim their opinions as the only truth. Seriously fuck that. It's obvious what the balance is right now and it makes me cringe to read stupid things like "TvP impossiblle late game because of biomine (mine lategame wtf)." So your argument is: that Alicia and Crank are cheesy, so their opinions are moot and then: that the balance is obvious I don't know how my old logic teachers would like that reasoning... Of course they PoV is biased since they play 8-12 for money. they want to win. I'm basing on fact, check the last 4 months of sc2, check the lasts games of theses wcs. FFS, ask others pros, having both side of an argument is better then just basing his opinion on 2 biased players that avoid playing macro game at all cost.
Combining pre-patch and post-patch results is a useless way to judge balance.
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On April 14 2014 06:17 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 06:14 nkr wrote:On April 14 2014 06:13 Caihead wrote:On April 14 2014 06:13 stuchiu wrote:On April 14 2014 06:10 Caihead wrote:On April 14 2014 06:08 Sabu113 wrote:On April 14 2014 06:04 nkr wrote:On April 14 2014 06:04 Caihead wrote:On April 14 2014 06:03 nkr wrote:On April 14 2014 06:02 NKexquisite wrote: Since when does TotalBiscuits opinion matter? since he's the most helpful single character in the scene Take? Tastosis? Incontrol? Come on. yes, he throws money at the scene while the others make money from the scene I don't know how Tastosis gets mentioned after the Sons of StarCraft Kickstarter. Incontrol either. Day9 would be the right one to throw in. So all their efforts from 2000s - 2012 dont count? They threw their lives at Starcraft, it's more than just money. Its not a contest guys. I didn't quote TB as "the most helpful single character in the scene". No, I did and I stand by it. You said nothing to convince me otherwise. Nothing to say to a person with selective amnesia.
Well yeah attacking the person instead of the argument always works. I'll leave you to it.
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
On April 14 2014 06:18 Topin wrote: MMA should mix some scv pull against storm?
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Really late upgrades. I wasn't paying attention, but did MC play like this the other 2 games?
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Please stop unironically insulting TB, its shooting the messenger since he only told you his opinion based on interviews with his players.
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MC is Bolo. You have all seen his flex.
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On April 14 2014 06:18 GumBa wrote:against storm? in general not this game
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On April 14 2014 06:18 Cheren wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 06:17 Faust852 wrote:On April 14 2014 06:14 Heartland wrote:On April 14 2014 06:12 Faust852 wrote:On April 14 2014 06:08 scypio wrote:On April 14 2014 06:05 Faust852 wrote:On April 14 2014 06:03 nkr wrote:On April 14 2014 06:02 NKexquisite wrote: Since when does TotalBiscuits opinion matter? since he's the most helpful single character in the scene Yeah but please, he can keep his opinion about the game in itself for himself, that would be great. No, just no. It is great that TB is here and that he shares his passion about the game (even thou he may be wrong sometimes). Yeah, so do us. Why are we the bad rabbit when we disagree with him. He doesn't play the game and his only source of imformation is Crank and Alicia, both players that don't know how to put a 3rd nexus in a game and then claim their opinions as the only truth. Seriously fuck that. It's obvious what the balance is right now and it makes me cringe to read stupid things like "TvP impossiblle late game because of biomine (mine lategame wtf)." So your argument is: that Alicia and Crank are cheesy, so their opinions are moot and then: that the balance is obvious I don't know how my old logic teachers would like that reasoning... Of course they PoV is biased since they play 8-12 for money. they want to win. I'm basing on fact, check the last 4 months of sc2, check the lasts games of theses wcs. FFS, ask others pros, having both side of an argument is better then just basing his opinion on 2 biased players that avoid playing macro game at all cost. Combining pre-patch and post-patch results is a useless way to judge balance.
Looks like the patch didn't do that much considering how well protoss does in the early game and the main goal of the last patch was nerfing these possibilities.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On April 14 2014 06:18 GumBa wrote:against storm?
SCV pull sucks now.
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On April 14 2014 06:19 stuchiu wrote: Really late upgrades. I wasn't paying attention, but did MC play like this the other 2 games?
No he usually rushed out armor upgrades
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Damn tunneling too hard on those templar, good reactions by MC
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