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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
April 12 2014 20:16 GMT
#1101
It's balanced. In game 2 MMA defended the DTs really well and got an early advantage by killing some probes, and was able to snowball it with widow mines and a strong attack. in game 3 San got the early gold base, a much faster 3rd and denied MMA's drop attempts with ease. He also snowballed this lead to a victory. You can't say "TB you're dumb MMA was ahead because he defended DTs" then turn around and claim that this game was a good metric
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
April 12 2014 20:16 GMT
#1102
On April 13 2014 05:13 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 05:13 TheDwf wrote:
On April 13 2014 05:11 maartendq wrote:
Now this is an example of late game TvP and how obviously skewed it is towards terran!

Can't even Fungal properly, what a disgrace.

i wonder when this stupid joke will be stopped


A few minutes ago in a country far, far away... Rain facepalmed.
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
April 12 2014 20:17 GMT
#1103
Wow, according to this thread, we all disproved TB's statement with just one game!


When lorning is the voice of Reason in the LR. Something is wrong
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
April 12 2014 20:17 GMT
#1104
On April 13 2014 05:16 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 05:14 TheDwf wrote:
On April 13 2014 05:13 Undead1993 wrote:
On April 13 2014 05:13 TheDwf wrote:
On April 13 2014 05:11 maartendq wrote:
Now this is an example of late game TvP and how obviously skewed it is towards terran!

Can't even Fungal properly, what a disgrace.

i wonder when this stupid joke will be stopped

Blame Rain for creating a meme.


I like how they ask Rain about his match and he instead talks about Terran being too strong and his fear of Maru.

Guess hes still sour over that OSL.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
VmY
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands1286 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-12 20:17:45
April 12 2014 20:17 GMT
#1105
On April 13 2014 05:16 Yorkie wrote:
It's balanced. In game 2 MMA defended the DTs really well and got an early advantage by killing some probes, and was able to snowball it with widow mines and a strong attack. in game 3 San got the early gold base, a much faster 3rd and denied MMA's drop attempts with ease. He also snowballed this lead to a victory. You can't say "TB you're dumb MMA was ahead because he defended DTs" then turn around and claim that this game was a good metric


Hey you. Get your logic out of here. I came to this thread to see people get angry.
Why can't I quit you, siege tank? FanTaSy, Mvp.
Marcinko
Profile Joined May 2013
South Africa1014 Posts
April 12 2014 20:17 GMT
#1106
(P)MC vs (T)MMA Who would have guessed?
....
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
April 12 2014 20:17 GMT
#1107
On April 13 2014 05:15 Lorning wrote:
Wow, according to this thread, we all disproved TB's statement with just one game!

We did Reddit Teamliquid


dat late game
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
April 12 2014 20:17 GMT
#1108
On April 13 2014 05:16 Yorkie wrote:
It's balanced. In game 2 MMA defended the DTs really well and got an early advantage by killing some probes, and was able to snowball it with widow mines and a strong attack. in game 3 San got the early gold base, a much faster 3rd and denied MMA's drop attempts with ease. He also snowballed this lead to a victory. You can't say "TB you're dumb MMA was ahead because he defended DTs" then turn around and claim that this game was a good metric

Fairly sure no one is judging balance out of those games, more like making fun of some bizarre recent stances.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
April 12 2014 20:17 GMT
#1109
On April 13 2014 05:16 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 05:13 Undead1993 wrote:
On April 13 2014 05:13 TheDwf wrote:
On April 13 2014 05:11 maartendq wrote:
Now this is an example of late game TvP and how obviously skewed it is towards terran!

Can't even Fungal properly, what a disgrace.

i wonder when this stupid joke will be stopped


A few minutes ago in a country far, far away... Rain facepalmed.

cause he lost his nexus to infested terrans?
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-12 20:18:44
April 12 2014 20:17 GMT
#1110
On April 13 2014 05:16 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 05:15 Lorning wrote:
Wow, according to this thread, we all disproved TB's statement with just one game!

We did Reddit Teamliquid

but according to tb he proved his statement with just one game.


Actually I proved my statement by providing opinions from progamers. Neither of those maps proved anything. But hey, if you want to take my one sentence post as "proof" that's up to you. Whatever. LR thinks it knows best, why waste time pissing into the wind.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
April 12 2014 20:17 GMT
#1111
On April 13 2014 05:17 robson1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
Wow, according to this thread, we all disproved TB's statement with just one game!


When lorning is the voice of Reason in the LR. Something is wrong

What are you on about. I'm the most reasonable person on this website.

Most handsome too
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
April 12 2014 20:18 GMT
#1112
On April 13 2014 05:14 Heavenlee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 05:13 sharkie wrote:
On April 13 2014 05:12 scypio wrote:
On April 13 2014 05:12 stuchiu wrote:
Hey look a Protoss won late game


You think that the fact San shut down every harass attempt by MMA pretty well mattered?


Why would MMA even try to play risky drop play if PvT is so massively unbalanced?
Just play safe late game and win


Because, again, he was massively behind economically? San had the gold base since the beginning of the game and had his third nexus up before the third CC was even planted.


And going gold and stargate is a standard macro build on Habitation because there is nothing the terran can do to punish it. From there, the protoss can all-in off 2 bases or take the early third due to the higher mineral income. So for that map, terran will always be behind in eco. JJ tried to counter that with hidden base but if protoss all-ins, you are dead.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
April 12 2014 20:18 GMT
#1113
WCS EU Premier RO4

(T)MMA vs (P)San
2-1


Map: Polar Night LE

0:00 San spawns top position.
0:00 MMA spawns bottom.
1:00 San proxies!
1:00 Just kidding. Chronoboosting workers.
1:30 12 Rax / 12 Gas for MMA. Reaper incoming?
2:00 Single gas taken by San. I have no idea about protoss build orders, but I hope my reaper prediction is correct.
2:40 Reaper starting. I'm great. Such wow!
3:10 SCV scout by MMA, gets to see everything.
3:30 Zealot for San being built aaaaand cancelled, since he's building a Nexus.
4:00 Tod laughs because there's no scout for San so far.
4:20 one probe kill for MMA's reaper, the cyber core slaps him in the face for that but he survives.
4:30 additional barracks for MMA, up to three.
5:00 Twilight council for San.
5:30 m to da core blocks MMA's reaper from scouting anything. Oh-oh - INCAAAAAAAAA
5:50 I meant Dark Shrine.
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-12 20:18:49
April 12 2014 20:18 GMT
#1114
On April 13 2014 05:17 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 05:17 robson1 wrote:
Wow, according to this thread, we all disproved TB's statement with just one game!


When lorning is the voice of Reason in the LR. Something is wrong

What are you on about. I'm the most reasonable person on this website.

Most handsome too


Would never argue with the second statment
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
April 12 2014 20:18 GMT
#1115
I screwed up my last LR due to editing instead of quoting. Fuck!
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
April 12 2014 20:18 GMT
#1116
On April 13 2014 05:17 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 05:17 robson1 wrote:
Wow, according to this thread, we all disproved TB's statement with just one game!


When lorning is the voice of Reason in the LR. Something is wrong

What are you on about. I'm the most reasonable person on this website.

Most handsome too

You are more handsome than MKP ?
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Niko_Thien
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany2671 Posts
April 12 2014 20:18 GMT
#1117
Instead of whining about balance, I suggest you guys drink beer!
@Niko_Thien on twitter!
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 12 2014 20:18 GMT
#1118
Inca who art in heaven, give my dts the convction to attack mine most foul enemy in the back. Amen. - San
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
April 12 2014 20:18 GMT
#1119
On April 13 2014 05:17 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 05:17 robson1 wrote:
Wow, according to this thread, we all disproved TB's statement with just one game!


When lorning is the voice of Reason in the LR. Something is wrong

What are you on about. I'm the most reasonable person on this website.

Most handsome too

I can confirm
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
April 12 2014 20:18 GMT
#1120
On April 13 2014 05:17 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 05:16 Undead1993 wrote:
On April 13 2014 05:15 Lorning wrote:
Wow, according to this thread, we all disproved TB's statement with just one game!

We did Reddit Teamliquid

but according to tb he proved his statement with just one game.


Actually I proved my statement by providing opinions from progamers. Neither of those maps proved anything. But whatever. LR thinks it knows best, why waste time pissing into the wind.

you can't reasonably discuss here, you just can't and you know it
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