EPT[WCS EU] Ro4 Premier Season 1 2014 - Page 51
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Sent.
Poland9297 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
And FFs and Blink. | ||
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Qwerty85
Croatia5536 Posts
On April 13 2014 05:00 w3c.TruE wrote: Those marines killed like 5-7 probes... But yeah, San got outplayed hard. 6 to marines as far as I remember but much more to WMs. there were 2 detonations on his third and 2nd time he pulled the sacrificial probe too late, then they pulled the workers lost and it was around 30 lost in total. | ||
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Aeromi
France14461 Posts
On April 13 2014 05:04 Sent. wrote: Why did he make voidrays? Respect them. | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On April 13 2014 05:01 boxerfred wrote: Map: Habitation Station LE 0:00 MMA spawns top left 0:00 San spawns top right. Surprise on a two player map! 0:20 Epic ESL music introduces the players. Funka sets up the observing stuff. 1:30 MMA scouting his base for inbase shenanigans, San being way too kind to proxy something so far. 2:00 Double gas for San, is he going full MC? 2:20 single gas for MMA taken (15 gas) 2:50 full saturation on the geysirs for San. MMA scouts it with an SCV though. Also, San skips his zealot - doesn't look like he's going to expand real fast. 3:30 Reactor for MMA 3:45 Stargate for San. Lets see if MMA gets it all read. 4:20 SCV checks San's natural, sees nothing. CC for MMA building, along with a factory. 4:50 San takes the gold expansion (so far unscouted), MMA gets the scout off for the stargate. This is so MC! 5:30 Widow mine + Starport for MMA, rallied to his main base. Oracle enters the natural of MMA though, killing one SCV 6:00 Void ray in production. Gateway explosion soon to come. 6:30 MMA lifts his CC from his natural, probably expecting heavy pressure. 7:00 "Explosion" happening: 2 additional gateways. San already 10 probes ahead, no need for him to allin now. 7:30 MMA sends one medivac with one widow mine all the way down the map. Phoenix production for San. 8:00 Forge for San, and WHAT THE F*** third nexus. MMA scouted that though. 8:30 +1 armor started, MMA retook his natural (probably 2 minutes ago, missed that due to the typing) 9:20 looks like MMA wants to push, with a viking, a mine, and of course bio. He tries to attack the gold, but overcharge pretty much denies him. 10:00 San pushes out now (ballsy!), with sentries and gateway units. Checks the watchtower and backs off again. Somehow, MMA managed to be only 8 workers behind now, which is okay due to mules. | ||
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
It is a pretty elegant solution to the Protoss question, most people over think it. | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On April 13 2014 05:03 MasterOfPuppets wrote: PvT is the match-up he played safest, except for when 6gate immortal was super powerful. But hey, selective memory feeding into confirmation bias... Just saying MC is not all-inning because Terran is supposed to be broken in macro TvP... It's his style, that's all. | ||
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maartendq
Belgium3115 Posts
On April 13 2014 05:01 robson1 wrote: He said: This is why MC didn't play long games, because it's hard to play PvT against top koreans in the mid to lategame. MC has never been good at playing long games. He's always had a tendency to all-in or do insanely weird early game pressure builds. | ||
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ReMinD_
Croatia846 Posts
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robson1
3632 Posts
On April 13 2014 05:03 MasterOfPuppets wrote: PvT is the match-up he played safest, except for when 6gate immortal was super powerful. But hey, selective memory feeding into confirmation bias... He always all-inned a lot in every matchup. In TvP less than the other two matchups. But since the oracle and hots, MC played a whole lot of stargate/gateway all ins in TvP. (last finals of WCS EU anyone?) | ||
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scypio
Poland2127 Posts
On April 13 2014 05:03 stuchiu wrote: He understands the race on a fundamental level. No, at times where P was favored in the late game these were all mind games. Noone expected toss to play a short, all-inish game and MC could caught many people off-guard. Now it is a necessity  | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32747 Posts
On April 13 2014 05:04 Sent. wrote: Why did he make voidrays? Safety unit I think cause you have the Stargate anyways or he was faking a Void Ray bust. | ||
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pmp10
3396 Posts
That mindgame worked well for him. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On April 13 2014 05:05 TheDwf wrote: Just saying MC is not all-inning because Terran is supposed to be broken in macro TvP... It's his style, that's all. You're implying MC always all-inned in PvT which is objectively false. It's the match-up he's always all-inned least in, and sometimes his macro play even looked god-tier. Don't be disingenuous just for the sake of balance whine. | ||
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robson1
3632 Posts
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robson1
3632 Posts
On April 13 2014 05:06 MasterOfPuppets wrote: You're implying MC always all-inned in PvT which is objectively false. It's the match-up he's always all-inned least in, and sometimes his macro play even looked god-tier. Don't be disingenuous just for the sake of balance whine. His PvT in Hots was a lot of stargate/gateway play. The whole year. And most of it was very aggressive. | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On April 13 2014 05:06 robson1 wrote: I like this version of the oracle, gold base play waaaaaaay better than the void ray bust. Genius and sOs have put you on their shit list. | ||
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maartendq
Belgium3115 Posts
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
On April 13 2014 05:02 ThomasjServo wrote: Add ellipses to just about anything and you can "...you can "You're god damn right. | ||
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