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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-11 12:03:34
April 11 2014 12:02 GMT
#481
On April 11 2014 21:02 Shellshock wrote:
4p XNC would be great. I'd play on that

get rid of the rocks on the 2 bases and yeah i'd play it too
Moderatorlickypiddy
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
April 11 2014 12:03 GMT
#482
On April 11 2014 21:02 Frex wrote:
Blizzard itself stated that Cloud Kingdom was heavily protoss favored in TvP back in WoL. I´m glad it is gone.


TIL Blizzard's opinion on maps is relevant
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 11 2014 12:04 GMT
#483
On April 11 2014 21:02 Frex wrote:
Blizzard itself stated that Cloud Kingdom was heavily protoss favored in TvP back in WoL. I´m glad it is gone.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/maps/510_ESV_Cloud_Kingdom

damn that 50.3% winrate over 800+ competitive games.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Frex
Profile Joined March 2012
Finland888 Posts
April 11 2014 12:05 GMT
#484
On April 11 2014 21:04 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 21:02 Frex wrote:
Blizzard itself stated that Cloud Kingdom was heavily protoss favored in TvP back in WoL. I´m glad it is gone.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/maps/510_ESV_Cloud_Kingdom

damn that 50.3% winrate over 800+ competitive games.


http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/5202424/talking-balance-with-david-kim-4-26-2012

"In our current map pool, we’re seeing that not every map we’ve added to our pool is balanced for every matchup. For example, our data shows a 70% PvT win ratio on Cloud Kingdom"

To quote to the mighty David Kim
jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-11 12:05:34
April 11 2014 12:05 GMT
#485
On April 11 2014 21:04 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 21:02 Frex wrote:
Blizzard itself stated that Cloud Kingdom was heavily protoss favored in TvP back in WoL. I´m glad it is gone.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/maps/510_ESV_Cloud_Kingdom

damn that 50.3% winrate over 800+ competitive games.

0.3% in favour of toss in PvT? Yeah, get rid of that shit.
Community Newsjjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji nshoseo.jpg
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-11 12:06:12
April 11 2014 12:05 GMT
#486
On April 11 2014 21:02 Frex wrote:
Blizzard itself stated that Cloud Kingdom was heavily protoss favored in TvP back in WoL. I´m glad it is gone.

It was fairly balanced
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/maps/510_ESV_Cloud_Kingdom
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/maps/510_ESV_Cloud_Kingdom
On April 11 2014 21:05 Frex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 21:04 marvellosity wrote:
On April 11 2014 21:02 Frex wrote:
Blizzard itself stated that Cloud Kingdom was heavily protoss favored in TvP back in WoL. I´m glad it is gone.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/maps/510_ESV_Cloud_Kingdom

damn that 50.3% winrate over 800+ competitive games.


http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/5202424/talking-balance-with-david-kim-4-26-2012

"In our current map pool, we’re seeing that not every map we’ve added to our pool is balanced for every matchup. For example, our data shows a 70% PvT win ratio on Cloud Kingdom"

To quote to the mighty David Kim


Ladder isn't everything.
Moderatorlickypiddy
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 11 2014 12:05 GMT
#487
because David Kim's unexplained ladder stats are more relevant than pro games for balance

of course!
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 11 2014 12:05 GMT
#488
On April 11 2014 21:01 Shellshock wrote:
[Code A] Group F S2 2014
[image loading] (T)Reality vs. [image loading] (Z)hyvaa
Game 2 (1-0)
Map: Alterzim Stronghold

0:00
Reality spawns in the bottom left
hyvaa spawns in the bottom right

2:00
hatch first for hyvaa
CC first for Reality
gas for hyvaa
rax for Reality
pool for hyvaa

3:00
gas for Reality

4:00
ling speed for hyvaa
2nd gas for Reality
factory for Reality

5:00
reactor for Reality
Starport for Reality
3rd base for hyvaa
tech lab for Reality
reactored hellion production for Reality
2nd gas for hyvaa
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
mutton
Profile Joined January 2011
64 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-11 12:06:03
April 11 2014 12:05 GMT
#489
In Twitch chat:

Gsl: Funny how
Gsl: during the break
Gsl: Soulkey said he didn't realize the S till someone told him later
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 11 2014 12:08 GMT
#490
Hero Banshee.
I had a good night of sleep.
dainbramage
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia1442 Posts
April 11 2014 12:08 GMT
#491
On April 11 2014 21:03 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 21:02 Frex wrote:
Blizzard itself stated that Cloud Kingdom was heavily protoss favored in TvP back in WoL. I´m glad it is gone.


TIL Blizzard's opinion on maps is relevant

They come up with brilliant maps like daedalus, clearly most knowledgeable about maps
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 11 2014 12:08 GMT
#492
On April 11 2014 21:05 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 21:01 Shellshock wrote:
[Code A] Group F S2 2014
[image loading] (T)Reality vs. [image loading] (Z)hyvaa
Game 2 (1-0)
Map: Alterzim Stronghold

0:00
Reality spawns in the bottom left
hyvaa spawns in the bottom right

2:00
hatch first for hyvaa
CC first for Reality
gas for hyvaa
rax for Reality
pool for hyvaa

3:00
gas for Reality

4:00
ling speed for hyvaa
2nd gas for Reality
factory for Reality

5:00
reactor for Reality
Starport for Reality
3rd base for hyvaa
tech lab for Reality
reactored hellion production for Reality
2nd gas for hyvaa

6:00
banshee for hyvaa
3rd CC for Reality

7:00 52 vs 56
hellions working to deny creep
3 queens moving over to defend
overlord scouting the main of Reality
double evo for hyvaa
double ebay for Reality
2 more gas for Reality

8:00 65 vs 70
sitm research for Reality
2 more gas for hyvaa
1-1 ling upgrades for hyvaa
1-1 started for Reality
2 more rax for Reality
8 drones killed by the banshee

9:00 78 vs 86
2 more rax for Reality
Lair finishes for hyvaa
baneling nest for hyvaa

10:00 91 vs 90
armory for Reality
overlord speed for hyvaa
Spire for hyvaa
medivacs for Reality
macro hatch for hyvaa
baneling speed for hyvaa
widw mines for Reality
combat shields for Reality
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 11 2014 12:09 GMT
#493
Looks like Ruin gotta get through Reality again
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
April 11 2014 12:09 GMT
#494
On April 11 2014 21:00 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 20:59 ACrow wrote:
On April 11 2014 20:57 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On April 11 2014 20:56 D-light wrote:
What the hell? I remember many people saying that cloud kingdom was one of the better maps back then.

Whatever...


The people have never been more correct. CK is the best map ever made.

I agree. I which we would get an old school map occasionally in the map pool. Just the old favorites, would be nice as meta breaker. Just imagine what Xel'Naga Caverns would do nowadays.

yeah I'd love to see Xel'Naga Caverns back again, maybe with a couple of tweaks


Five swarmhosts on the left. Five swarmhosts on the right. Ten swarmhosts in the middle.
The wall
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
April 11 2014 12:09 GMT
#495
again no mech from Reality
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 11 2014 12:12 GMT
#496
On April 11 2014 21:08 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 21:05 Shellshock wrote:
On April 11 2014 21:01 Shellshock wrote:
[Code A] Group F S2 2014
[image loading] (T)Reality vs. [image loading] (Z)hyvaa
Game 2 (1-0)
Map: Alterzim Stronghold

0:00
Reality spawns in the bottom left
hyvaa spawns in the bottom right

2:00
hatch first for hyvaa
CC first for Reality
gas for hyvaa
rax for Reality
pool for hyvaa

3:00
gas for Reality

4:00
ling speed for hyvaa
2nd gas for Reality
factory for Reality

5:00
reactor for Reality
Starport for Reality
3rd base for hyvaa
tech lab for Reality
reactored hellion production for Reality
2nd gas for hyvaa

6:00
banshee for hyvaa
3rd CC for Reality

7:00 52 vs 56
hellions working to deny creep
3 queens moving over to defend
overlord scouting the main of Reality
double evo for hyvaa
double ebay for Reality
2 more gas for Reality

8:00 65 vs 70
sitm research for Reality
2 more gas for hyvaa
1-1 ling upgrades for hyvaa
1-1 started for Reality
2 more rax for Reality
8 drones killed by the banshee

9:00 78 vs 86
2 more rax for Reality
Lair finishes for hyvaa
baneling nest for hyvaa

10:00 91 vs 90
armory for Reality
overlord speed for hyvaa
Spire for hyvaa
medivacs for Reality
macro hatch for hyvaa
baneling speed for hyvaa
widw mines for Reality
combat shields for Reality

11:00 138 vs 116
hellbats for Reality
2nd factory for Reality
2-2 for hyvaa
+1 air attack for hyvaa
2 more rax for reality
2-2 started for Reality
4th base for hyvaa

12:00 152 vs 115
+1 vehicle attack for Reality
mutas started for hyvaa
Reality cleaning up some creep

13:00 177 vs 143
blue flame research started for Reality
thor for Reality
viking harassing overlords
double drop at the 4th of hyvaa
more creep being denied
4th of hyvaa is saved in the red by transfuse
more creep tumors dying

14:00 184 vs 162
hyvaa moves in with muta ling bane to defend on the edge of creep
Reality's army is pushed back
double drop at the 4th of hyvaa again
queens target down 1 medivac
4th of hyvaa is killed
the drop is cleaned up
concussive shells for Reality

15:00 156 vs 150
infestation pit for hyvaa
+2 flier attack for hyvaa
Hive for hyvaa
+3 attack for Reality
4th base restarted for hyvaa
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
April 11 2014 12:12 GMT
#497
Not the best bane control from Hyvaa. Shouldn't be crashing into Thors. He is no Nestea.
Community Newsjjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji nshoseo.jpg
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
April 11 2014 12:14 GMT
#498
It's nice to see the Thor/Hellbat style used by Reality, I think it is a little underused against Z on the larger maps.
Get off my lawn, young punks
MangoMountain
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2044 Posts
April 11 2014 12:14 GMT
#499
On April 11 2014 21:09 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 21:00 marvellosity wrote:
On April 11 2014 20:59 ACrow wrote:
On April 11 2014 20:57 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On April 11 2014 20:56 D-light wrote:
What the hell? I remember many people saying that cloud kingdom was one of the better maps back then.

Whatever...


The people have never been more correct. CK is the best map ever made.

I agree. I which we would get an old school map occasionally in the map pool. Just the old favorites, would be nice as meta breaker. Just imagine what Xel'Naga Caverns would do nowadays.

yeah I'd love to see Xel'Naga Caverns back again, maybe with a couple of tweaks


Five swarmhosts on the left. Five swarmhosts on the right. Ten swarmhosts in the middle.
The wall

Pretty sure you can just sit on the gold base with swarmhosts and hit every base the other guy would take
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 11 2014 12:14 GMT
#500
Evil loses
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