EPTMany thanks!
MLG Anaheim Pool Qualifiers + added EU/KR spots - Page 7
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BaneRiders
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ROOTCatZ
Peru1238 Posts
On May 11 2014 07:43 Crownlol wrote: I've never talked smack about casters. Ever (Go ahead, check my post history). But man, this is just a really boring cast. I turned it on to show my buddy SC2 for the first time - this happened to be on - and it's just entirely unwatchable. Why are they just chatting instead of talking about the game at all? C'mon CatZ... this is worse than early SSBM casting, I have no idea why they can't carry a cast for 2 minutes without dead time. if you're looking for hype and shouting: a) I don't like to fake emotion, there's barely anything at stake in the RO32 of a qualifier to a tournament b) Almost every match today was between a known player and a lesser known player, making it predictable on that sense, there was no upsets until the last series c) If you couldn't tell, I am sick / my throat hurts so even if I got really excited I couldn't yell. If that's your cup of tea, then sorry your friend got bored and yeah you should probably go show him a Totalbiscuit or Nathanias cast, they are really good at play by play and much louder and eloquent than I can be. If you're looking for game knowledge and accuracy, as many people often times are - then I think we were probably more accurate than any casting duo you've watched, especially when it comes to zerg. We don't bullshit or feed wrong information - sorry its not your cup of tea, many people enjoyed the cast a lot judging by comments on reddit, too bad you didn't. But don't "C'mon CatZ" me cause I didn't do anything wrong, we stepped up to cast a qualifier that would've otherwise gone uncasted and I think we did a good job, I was pretty happy with it at least, there are ways to present your opinion without being a dick about it. "I would like it if they yelled more" or "I wish they told me 'a supply depot is being constructed' instead of chatting to kill time while anything that's actually relevant is happening". much nicer than saying "this is even worse than..." nomsayin? | ||
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
On May 11 2014 09:58 ROOTCatZ wrote: if you're looking for hype and shouting: a) I don't like to fake emotion, there's barely anything at stake in the RO32 of a qualifier to a tournament b) Almost every match today was between a known player and a lesser known player, making it predictable on that sense, there was no upsets until the last series c) If you couldn't tell, I am sick / my throat hurts so even if I got really excited I couldn't yell. If that's your cup of tea, then sorry your friend got bored and yeah you should probably go show him a Totalbiscuit or Nathanias cast, they are really good at play by play and much louder and eloquent than I can be. If you're looking for game knowledge and accuracy, as many people often times are - then I think we were probably more accurate than any casting duo you've watched, especially when it comes to zerg. We don't bullshit or feed wrong information - sorry its not your cup of tea, many people enjoyed the cast a lot judging by comments on reddit, too bad you didn't. But don't "C'mon CatZ" me cause I didn't do anything wrong, we stepped up to cast a qualifier that would've otherwise gone uncasted and I think we did a good job, I was pretty happy with it at least, there are ways to present your opinion without being a dick about it. "I would like it if they yelled more" or "I wish they told me 'a supply depot is being constructed' instead of chatting to kill time while anything that's actually relevant is happening". much nicer than saying "this is even worse than..." nomsayin? Honestly, that's a fair response, and I appreciate your candor. We, as a community, also appreciate you casting something that otherwise would have gone unbroadcasted. a) No one is asking you to fake emotion or force yelling. That's not the point of a cast - yeah TB, Apollo and Nathanias are great at getting hyped, that's what they do. But you were taking casting a point where you were *expecting* your audience to have platinum+ understanding and awareness of the game. So yes - I wish you'd mentioned things that could only have been read via the construction tab. b) Underdog stories are great for giving a little background on one or both of the players. How hard is it to talk about TLO's history instead of making random chitchat with your co-host? c) I'm not here to debate your preparation and state of wellness, dude. While I can understand that you felt attacked by my post, if you weren't feeling well, why not give the spot to a lesser-known community member who might be itching for the opportunity? I'm not trying to be a dick, but you have a certain level of name recognition that goes along with your brand. I was expecting some neat insights from a pro-player point of view, while also explaining why X happened, and that's not the type of cast it was. If you're not feeling up to the task on a particular night, let someone who might be less known cast in your place. And if you can't take criticism, I don't know what to tell you. | ||
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ROOTCatZ
Peru1238 Posts
On May 11 2014 10:34 Crownlol wrote: Honestly, that's a fair response, and I appreciate your candor. We, as a community, also appreciate you casting something that otherwise would have gone unbroadcasted. a) No one is asking you to fake emotion or force yelling. That's not the point of a cast - yeah TB, Apollo and Nathanias are great at getting hyped, that's what they do. But you were taking casting a point where you were *expecting* your audience to have platinum+ understanding and awareness of the game. So yes - I wish you'd mentioned things that could only have been read via the construction tab. b) Underdog stories are great for giving a little background on one or both of the players. How hard is it to talk about TLO's history instead of making random chitchat with your co-host? c) I'm not here to debate your preparation and state of wellness, dude. While I can understand that you felt attacked by my post, if you weren't feeling well, why not give the spot to a lesser-known community member who might be itching for the opportunity? I'm not trying to be a dick, but you have a certain level of name recognition that goes along with your brand. I was expecting some neat insights from a pro-player point of view, while also explaining why X happened, and that's not the type of cast it was. If you're not feeling up to the task on a particular night, let someone who might be less known cast in your place. And if you can't take criticism, I don't know what to tell you. see that's the thing, I think you maybe didn't watch the cast or watched a short portion of it, because we did explain plenty and in detail and gave A LOT more insight and a lot more accurate insights into builds, predicted builds and explained the reasons for the predictions and were right almost every single time, because we understand the game, and don't just randomly go "oh most people go muta so i'll just predict muta" and then say "I think he'll go muta" and then be like "oh look muta, just like we predicted!" no, I think we were pretty good at explaining small details that are bypassed by casters (cause more often than not they don't really understand the game at a high level) and we did it plenty throughout the cast, so yeah if you watched the entire cast and that's your criticism, idk what to tell you! When you present your opinion as an absolute, that's one of the things that bug me the most in the world, when you say "that's not the type of cast it was" its annoying as shit, cause im fairly certain (feel free to deny it) you didn't watch the entire cast, probably not even longer than a very short portion and still feel like you can present your opinion as fact, if you said "I don't think that's the type of cast it was" it would be a lot more understandable, we'd disagree and i'd still think you probably didn't watch the cast closely, but at least you wouldn't come off as a complete dick in my eyes. So now, did you watch the entire cast? (there's a rebroadcast running right now) do you need me to make a bunch of highlights to prove i'm not lying? or are you willing to admit you maybe just watched the start of a game and made a post that OF COURSE I feel attacked when you attack me, that's how that works, only irl kerrigan doesn't tell me. If im not feeling up to the task on a particular night, are you honestly naive enough to think MLG will just give the spot to anyone that wants to cast? we have a studio setup and both commentators + producer here, its not as simple as "hey who wants to jump on skype? MLG that cool bro? and fuck no, you see, most commentators as you can probably tell by my post do not seem to understand the game very well... so no, im not gonna give my brand to a commentator outside the house who will probably bring in a lot more complains than the one dude in TL who thought we were boring, as much as you feel we did a shitty job, I think many people enjoyed the insight and the humor, some people may even prefer to avoid fake hype/excitement, who knows! | ||
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DuduSC
Afghanistan193 Posts
It's just targetted at more experienced players I think. And that's fine, people are just too used to fake emotions and overhype. It's ok to have this kind of cast from time to time. EDIT: I may reconsider, this cast is awesome. | ||
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BaneRiders
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JustPassingBy
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Anlo
Sweden485 Posts
On May 11 2014 17:47 JustPassingBy wrote: Hm, yeah. I would also be very interested in the result! Continues today the second day. Cast starts in 8h36m, as someone who watched it the Liquipedia has it all. | ||
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SpawnMoarOverlords
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Interesting because they're in the same WCS group. | ||
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
On May 11 2014 18:26 Anlo wrote: Continues today the second day. Cast starts in 8h36m, as someone who watched it the Liquipedia has it all. Great, thanks Anlo! | ||
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SatedSC2
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nkr
Sweden5451 Posts
On May 12 2014 03:43 SatedSC2 wrote: This is such a weird tournament with all the big names that are missing. Ah well. I asked MLG admins when they announced this if they actually thought that anyone was going to sign up and pay their way to anaheim, and they said a lot of good players like TLO had expressed interest turns out he was the only one  | ||
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Strata
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I'm unable to use my normal browser Firefox, which I can use with Twitch, etc fine. (Not a big thing and not something which would prompt me to post on its own.) The advertisement audio is 2-4 times louder then the stream (all the other match audio, combat, etc). Trying to access chat kills my stream. Chat wants a user account from another site? (There may be some option I'm missing but the chat pop up kills the stream and to clear it I've to refresh for another loud advertisement.) Cat's is a cool guy, he micros well and slays the dragon but can we get his microphone turned up? Can we zoom out from the casters faces? When I've a stream full screen to watch a match and it changes to these two giant heads...woah! (Please think along the line they do for news casters, sport casters if guidelines are needed.) The audio options are all or nothing, mute or unmuted. Considering the othre audio issues this is very limiting and a tad frustrating. There is no way to feedback this information through the site that I can see unless I join up.  Edit: Also the volume option is in different places for ads and the normal stream. I've just missed the startof a game as I'd the stream on mute to save my ears. Edit2: Some ads ignore volume settings. Haha, I nearly had heart attack. :/ | ||
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