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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
March 13 2014 15:27 GMT
#861
JYP vs Tefel is not the most exciting matchup ever
Neosteel Enthusiast
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-13 15:28:18
March 13 2014 15:28 GMT
#862
On March 14 2014 00:24 Firenza wrote:
Just starting to watch SC2 again since shortly before HoTS came out. I've been mostly watching WCS EU which has had some good games, but this is.. something too. Ret and InControl is a fun casting combo. Poor Scoobers. InControl was really ripping on him, but was still pretty nice and fun about it. Three rax after being cheesed = full tilt.

Not really much you can do, to say there was a skill gap between him and the people he played against is like saying the Atlantic is a puddle. He may as well have some fun with it.
Disarmed
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria721 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-13 15:31:59
March 13 2014 15:28 GMT
#863
just curious.....i dont really know where the scoobers hype is coming from but it is mos def funny stuff....


but is he really diamond? how could he have qualified if he obviously doesn't stand a chance against pros?
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 13 2014 15:29 GMT
#864
On March 14 2014 00:25 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 00:20 Orek wrote:
Wait. Does it mean that in WoL, where there was no photon overcharge, 3 rax was viable yet no one noticed?

Both 11/11 and 3-4 rax Marines/SCVs all-ins were defendable by Protoss in WoL.

A hell of a lot less defendable though wouldn't you say? Photon overcharge and even the damage of the msc itself is pretty strong vs that sort of opening
Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
March 13 2014 15:29 GMT
#865
--- Nuked ---
JazVM
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1196 Posts
March 13 2014 15:30 GMT
#866
On March 14 2014 00:29 Scrubwave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 00:28 Disarmed wrote:
just curious.....i dont really know where the scoobers hype is coming from but it is mos def funny stuff....


but is he really diamond? how could he have qualified if he obviously don't stand a chance against pros?

He was the last terran hope of 2014.


Don't forget about team Taeja yet
mind mind mind mind mind mind
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
March 13 2014 15:32 GMT
#867
On March 14 2014 00:30 JazVM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 00:29 Scrubwave wrote:
On March 14 2014 00:28 Disarmed wrote:
just curious.....i dont really know where the scoobers hype is coming from but it is mos def funny stuff....


but is he really diamond? how could he have qualified if he obviously don't stand a chance against pros?

He was the last terran hope of 2014.


Don't forget about team Taeja yet

you compare taeja with scoobers? wtf..
리노크 👑
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
March 13 2014 15:32 GMT
#868
On March 14 2014 00:29 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 00:25 TheDwf wrote:
On March 14 2014 00:20 Orek wrote:
Wait. Does it mean that in WoL, where there was no photon overcharge, 3 rax was viable yet no one noticed?

Both 11/11 and 3-4 rax Marines/SCVs all-ins were defendable by Protoss in WoL.

A hell of a lot less defendable though wouldn't you say? Photon overcharge and even the damage of the msc itself is pretty strong vs that sort of opening

11/11 was much more potent in WoL, yes. 3-4 rax all-ins were only used against FFE or Nexus first since the normal openings defended it quite easily.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
March 13 2014 15:32 GMT
#869
On March 14 2014 00:24 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 00:23 Tenks wrote:
On March 14 2014 00:22 robson1 wrote:
aww boy. The diamonds I play at least make OCs xD. Well you can't blame scoobers for looking like a fool against pros...


I think the way the build worked is he got 3 proxy raxes but never had the 150 to lump-sum invest in the OC. The plan was to win before the OC would really pay for itself and favored immediate marine production.


nailed it! you've done this before


I haven't because I'm the world's worst cheeser but the build made logical sense to me
Wat
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
March 13 2014 15:33 GMT
#870
I know IdrA and QxC as keyboard smashers.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
March 13 2014 15:33 GMT
#871
Haircontrol and Ret make a nice couple
I Protoss winner, could it be?
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 13 2014 15:34 GMT
#872
I keep saying this but I love this duo so much it hurts
GWdeathscythe
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1091 Posts
March 13 2014 15:34 GMT
#873
On March 14 2014 00:32 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 00:30 JazVM wrote:
On March 14 2014 00:29 Scrubwave wrote:
On March 14 2014 00:28 Disarmed wrote:
just curious.....i dont really know where the scoobers hype is coming from but it is mos def funny stuff....


but is he really diamond? how could he have qualified if he obviously don't stand a chance against pros?

He was the last terran hope of 2014.


Don't forget about team Taeja yet

you compare taeja with scoobers? wtf..

Yeah.. How dare you?! Scoobers is a top terran!
JD is BONJWA!
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 13 2014 15:34 GMT
#874
On March 14 2014 00:32 Tenks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 00:24 liberate71 wrote:
On March 14 2014 00:23 Tenks wrote:
On March 14 2014 00:22 robson1 wrote:
aww boy. The diamonds I play at least make OCs xD. Well you can't blame scoobers for looking like a fool against pros...


I think the way the build worked is he got 3 proxy raxes but never had the 150 to lump-sum invest in the OC. The plan was to win before the OC would really pay for itself and favored immediate marine production.


nailed it! you've done this before


I haven't because I'm the world's worst cheeser but the build made logical sense to me

I'm pretty shitty at cheesing too. I only really tried to macro for the first year I played SC2 and when I tried to start cheesing I did things like build my 2 raxes under an overlord, build a reactor on my proxy starport, etc.
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Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
March 13 2014 15:35 GMT
#875
On March 14 2014 00:27 BlackCompany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 00:25 Paljas wrote:
On March 14 2014 00:24 Darkhorse wrote:
I kind of want to try that build and see if it works against a ladder protoss haha

well, two rax works, no reason why 3 rax wont


I'll 4 rax all-in the next Protoss. you place 2 raxes directly in his main so that they are scouted, then you cancel. The other 2 raxes are hidden and when he thinks hes fine because he scouted your 2 raxes and you canceled..... boom marines in his main!

i once played against someone who would cancel his building cc and just 6 rax me.

i lost
TL+ Member
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 13 2014 15:36 GMT
#876
On March 14 2014 00:35 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 00:27 BlackCompany wrote:
On March 14 2014 00:25 Paljas wrote:
On March 14 2014 00:24 Darkhorse wrote:
I kind of want to try that build and see if it works against a ladder protoss haha

well, two rax works, no reason why 3 rax wont


I'll 4 rax all-in the next Protoss. you place 2 raxes directly in his main so that they are scouted, then you cancel. The other 2 raxes are hidden and when he thinks hes fine because he scouted your 2 raxes and you canceled..... boom marines in his main!

i once played against someone who would cancel his building cc and just 6 rax me.

i lost

Were you around for the short amount of time that protoss would cancel there nexus then 4 gate?
SantosPhillipCarlo
Profile Joined September 2013
United States351 Posts
March 13 2014 15:36 GMT
#877
As much as I don't like the Scoobers hype train (not the guy himself), I thought he might have something in Game 2. He never had his proxy Barracks discovered per se and was doing a good job of macroing up Marines, but Mana made the right read and didn't panic.

In fairness to Scoobers, though, if it had worked, all bets would have been off in Game 3.
All our dreams can come true if we have the courage to pursue them. - Walt Disney
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
March 13 2014 15:36 GMT
#878
On March 14 2014 00:35 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 00:27 BlackCompany wrote:
On March 14 2014 00:25 Paljas wrote:
On March 14 2014 00:24 Darkhorse wrote:
I kind of want to try that build and see if it works against a ladder protoss haha

well, two rax works, no reason why 3 rax wont


I'll 4 rax all-in the next Protoss. you place 2 raxes directly in his main so that they are scouted, then you cancel. The other 2 raxes are hidden and when he thinks hes fine because he scouted your 2 raxes and you canceled..... boom marines in his main!

i once played against someone who would cancel his building cc and just 6 rax me.

i lost

TLO on Xel Naga Caverns?
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
March 13 2014 15:37 GMT
#879
On March 14 2014 00:36 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 00:35 Paljas wrote:
On March 14 2014 00:27 BlackCompany wrote:
On March 14 2014 00:25 Paljas wrote:
On March 14 2014 00:24 Darkhorse wrote:
I kind of want to try that build and see if it works against a ladder protoss haha

well, two rax works, no reason why 3 rax wont


I'll 4 rax all-in the next Protoss. you place 2 raxes directly in his main so that they are scouted, then you cancel. The other 2 raxes are hidden and when he thinks hes fine because he scouted your 2 raxes and you canceled..... boom marines in his main!

i once played against someone who would cancel his building cc and just 6 rax me.

i lost

Were you around for the short amount of time that protoss would cancel there nexus then 4 gate?

Or even worse, HuK's 1 gate expand into 4g with mass chrono on the Cyber, hitting almost as hard but with an expand behind.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
March 13 2014 15:39 GMT
#880
On March 14 2014 00:36 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 00:35 Paljas wrote:
On March 14 2014 00:27 BlackCompany wrote:
On March 14 2014 00:25 Paljas wrote:
On March 14 2014 00:24 Darkhorse wrote:
I kind of want to try that build and see if it works against a ladder protoss haha

well, two rax works, no reason why 3 rax wont


I'll 4 rax all-in the next Protoss. you place 2 raxes directly in his main so that they are scouted, then you cancel. The other 2 raxes are hidden and when he thinks hes fine because he scouted your 2 raxes and you canceled..... boom marines in his main!

i once played against someone who would cancel his building cc and just 6 rax me.

i lost

TLO on Xel Naga Caverns?


could have been me, but yeah I think everyone stole that from TLO x3.
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