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Snijjer
Profile Joined September 2011
United States989 Posts
February 15 2014 22:33 GMT
#2501
poor MC
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
February 15 2014 22:34 GMT
#2502
I just like the fact that there are good players of every race showing up instead of pure PvP. :D
kiss kiss fall in love
imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
February 15 2014 22:43 GMT
#2503
Question ? Why does Kespa has no good terrans ? Always seeing a horde of protosses from them is so dissappointing. Does it show the strength of the races at the "highest level"?
Bbyong | MMA | Polt | Dream | Maru | Mvp
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
February 15 2014 22:45 GMT
#2504
On February 16 2014 07:43 imrusty269 wrote:
Question ? Why does Kespa has no good terrans ? Always seeing a horde of protosses from them is so dissappointing. Does it show the strength of the races at the "highest level"?

so TY, Flash and Maru are bad now ?
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-15 22:52:50
February 15 2014 22:50 GMT
#2505
On February 16 2014 07:45 Faruko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 07:43 imrusty269 wrote:
Question ? Why does Kespa has no good terrans ? Always seeing a horde of protosses from them is so dissappointing. Does it show the strength of the races at the "highest level"?

so TY, Flash and Maru are bad now ?


They are compared to the good Kespa tosses, of which there are about 20. Flash + TY couldn't even beat esf protosses.
Bbyong | MMA | Polt | Dream | Maru | Mvp
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
February 15 2014 22:57 GMT
#2506
On February 16 2014 07:50 imrusty269 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 07:45 Faruko wrote:
On February 16 2014 07:43 imrusty269 wrote:
Question ? Why does Kespa has no good terrans ? Always seeing a horde of protosses from them is so dissappointing. Does it show the strength of the races at the "highest level"?

so TY, Flash and Maru are bad now ?


They are compared to the good Kespa tosses, of which there are about 20. Flash + TY couldn't even beat esf protosses.


There is 20 good kespa protoss players? Just because they play in Proleague doesn't mean they are all good.

Remember guys like Ensnare during GomTvT era? There were a lot of terrans but most of them were not Mvp or MMA level, same as most proleague protoss players are not Parting, Rain or Classic level
imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
February 15 2014 23:17 GMT
#2507
On February 16 2014 07:57 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 07:50 imrusty269 wrote:
On February 16 2014 07:45 Faruko wrote:
On February 16 2014 07:43 imrusty269 wrote:
Question ? Why does Kespa has no good terrans ? Always seeing a horde of protosses from them is so dissappointing. Does it show the strength of the races at the "highest level"?

so TY, Flash and Maru are bad now ?


They are compared to the good Kespa tosses, of which there are about 20. Flash + TY couldn't even beat esf protosses.


There is 20 good kespa protoss players? Just because they play in Proleague doesn't mean they are all good.

Remember guys like Ensnare during GomTvT era? There were a lot of terrans but most of them were not Mvp or MMA level, same as most proleague protoss players are not Parting, Rain or Classic level


+ Trap, Zest, sOs, herO, ParalyzE, Stats, Dear ... Is Classic supposed to be better than Zest who just all kill SKT a team which has Parting Rain and Classic? I don't know because they are all good and there are so many of them lol
Bbyong | MMA | Polt | Dream | Maru | Mvp
Philozovic
Profile Joined August 2012
France1677 Posts
February 15 2014 23:19 GMT
#2508
On February 16 2014 07:11 Nebuchad wrote:
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On February 16 2014 07:05 Philozovic wrote:
On February 16 2014 07:00 Nebuchad wrote:
On February 16 2014 06:57 Zealously wrote:
On February 16 2014 06:51 Philozovic wrote:
On February 16 2014 06:49 Zealously wrote:
On another note Frank Underwood is my second favorite character of all time


By curiosity who is first ?

+ Show Spoiler +
Littlefinger OBV ?


T-Bag from Prison Break, actually. It's really close between some five characters from different shows, though, so I might change my mind again tomorrow.


That's surprising to me. I find it hard to see the quality of great characters in shows that aren't very good overall. Might need to watch PB again with that mindset.


Season one was actually really good, maybe the older version of me would have liked it less but at that time it was the shit yo !


Season one of PB is really overrated imo. People always act as if season 2 jumped the shark by being too over-the-top; season one wasn't credible either, but got away with it for some reason.


Oh yeah it wasn't credible for one sec, but the tension was overwelming, and people cared a lot about the characters !
You don't have to be credible to be a good show, at least in my mind
INnoVation is the absolute best | I wept for i knew his words to be true
Tyrhanius
Profile Joined April 2011
France947 Posts
February 15 2014 23:20 GMT
#2509
On February 16 2014 07:57 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 07:50 imrusty269 wrote:
On February 16 2014 07:45 Faruko wrote:
On February 16 2014 07:43 imrusty269 wrote:
Question ? Why does Kespa has no good terrans ? Always seeing a horde of protosses from them is so dissappointing. Does it show the strength of the races at the "highest level"?

so TY, Flash and Maru are bad now ?


They are compared to the good Kespa tosses, of which there are about 20. Flash + TY couldn't even beat esf protosses.


There is 20 good kespa protoss players? Just because they play in Proleague doesn't mean they are all good.


San/herO/Patience/Dear/sOs/sora/Zest/Trap/Crank/Genius/Super/Stats/YongHwa/First/Creator/Rain/Parting/Classic and others.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 15 2014 23:21 GMT
#2510
On February 16 2014 08:20 Tyrhanius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 07:57 Qwerty85 wrote:
On February 16 2014 07:50 imrusty269 wrote:
On February 16 2014 07:45 Faruko wrote:
On February 16 2014 07:43 imrusty269 wrote:
Question ? Why does Kespa has no good terrans ? Always seeing a horde of protosses from them is so dissappointing. Does it show the strength of the races at the "highest level"?

so TY, Flash and Maru are bad now ?


They are compared to the good Kespa tosses, of which there are about 20. Flash + TY couldn't even beat esf protosses.


There is 20 good kespa protoss players? Just because they play in Proleague doesn't mean they are all good.


San/herO/Patience/Dear/sOs/sora/Zest/Trap/Crank/Genius/Super/Stats/YongHwa/First/Creator/Rain/Parting/Classic and others.


San, Patience, Dear, Crank, Genius and First don't play for KeSPA teams
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
February 15 2014 23:25 GMT
#2511
On February 16 2014 08:21 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 08:20 Tyrhanius wrote:
On February 16 2014 07:57 Qwerty85 wrote:
On February 16 2014 07:50 imrusty269 wrote:
On February 16 2014 07:45 Faruko wrote:
On February 16 2014 07:43 imrusty269 wrote:
Question ? Why does Kespa has no good terrans ? Always seeing a horde of protosses from them is so dissappointing. Does it show the strength of the races at the "highest level"?

so TY, Flash and Maru are bad now ?


They are compared to the good Kespa tosses, of which there are about 20. Flash + TY couldn't even beat esf protosses.


There is 20 good kespa protoss players? Just because they play in Proleague doesn't mean they are all good.


San/herO/Patience/Dear/sOs/sora/Zest/Trap/Crank/Genius/Super/Stats/YongHwa/First/Creator/Rain/Parting/Classic and others.


San, Patience, Dear, Crank, Genius and First don't play for KeSPA teams


First doesn't play for any team D: rip
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 15 2014 23:26 GMT
#2512
he should go to Yoe Flash Wolves new best foreign team
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Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
February 15 2014 23:50 GMT
#2513
On February 16 2014 08:20 Tyrhanius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 07:57 Qwerty85 wrote:
On February 16 2014 07:50 imrusty269 wrote:
On February 16 2014 07:45 Faruko wrote:
On February 16 2014 07:43 imrusty269 wrote:
Question ? Why does Kespa has no good terrans ? Always seeing a horde of protosses from them is so dissappointing. Does it show the strength of the races at the "highest level"?

so TY, Flash and Maru are bad now ?


They are compared to the good Kespa tosses, of which there are about 20. Flash + TY couldn't even beat esf protosses.


There is 20 good kespa protoss players? Just because they play in Proleague doesn't mean they are all good.


San/herO/Patience/Dear/sOs/sora/Zest/Trap/Crank/Genius/Super/Stats/YongHwa/First/Creator/Rain/Parting/Classic and others.

First of all, San, Patience, Dear, Crank, Genius and First don't play for Kespa team and besides Dear none of them did (in SC2).

And more to the point, for about half of those players it is almost an insult to put them into the same category skillwise as the other half...
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
Deleted User 261926
Profile Joined April 2012
960 Posts
February 16 2014 01:28 GMT
#2514
On February 16 2014 08:20 Tyrhanius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 07:57 Qwerty85 wrote:
On February 16 2014 07:50 imrusty269 wrote:
On February 16 2014 07:45 Faruko wrote:
On February 16 2014 07:43 imrusty269 wrote:
Question ? Why does Kespa has no good terrans ? Always seeing a horde of protosses from them is so dissappointing. Does it show the strength of the races at the "highest level"?

so TY, Flash and Maru are bad now ?


They are compared to the good Kespa tosses, of which there are about 20. Flash + TY couldn't even beat esf protosses.


There is 20 good kespa protoss players? Just because they play in Proleague doesn't mean they are all good.


San/herO/Patience/Dear/sOs/sora/Zest/Trap/Crank/Genius/Super/Stats/YongHwa/First/Creator/Rain/Parting/Classic and others.

Patience,sora,crank,stats,super 10/10 would laugh again
LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
February 16 2014 01:32 GMT
#2515
This is a sick final 8 bracket.
Vari
Profile Joined September 2010
United States532 Posts
February 16 2014 04:59 GMT
#2516
though I'm happy to see Innovation in the top8 I'm not really sure today was much of a contest for him.

but I do think he can take herO. not sure he'll get past that but it makes me happy.

I can't explain Polt. He just has mechanics beyond belief, I've never seen him at a lower quality at any tournament. he's always a threat.
Stroke Me Lady Fame
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18725 Posts
February 16 2014 08:08 GMT
#2517
On February 16 2014 13:59 Vari wrote:
though I'm happy to see Innovation in the top8 I'm not really sure today was much of a contest for him.

but I do think he can take herO. not sure he'll get past that but it makes me happy.

I can't explain Polt. He just has mechanics beyond belief, I've never seen him at a lower quality at any tournament. he's always a threat.


oh innovation would get crushed against herO, but he can beat Hero
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 16 2014 09:12 GMT
#2518
On February 16 2014 17:08 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 13:59 Vari wrote:
though I'm happy to see Innovation in the top8 I'm not really sure today was much of a contest for him.

but I do think he can take herO. not sure he'll get past that but it makes me happy.

I can't explain Polt. He just has mechanics beyond belief, I've never seen him at a lower quality at any tournament. he's always a threat.


oh innovation would get crushed against herO, but he can beat Hero

http://aligulac.com/results/search/?search=&after=&before=&players=hero cj
innovation&event=&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&op=Search
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Neemi
Profile Joined August 2012
Netherlands656 Posts
February 16 2014 09:21 GMT
#2519
On February 16 2014 06:27 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 06:26 FrvPssn wrote:
MC vs Classic looks like Fat Buu vs Skinny Buu from Dragon Ball, especially Classic.

We all know how that turned out

+ Show Spoiler +


So this means that Classic is now Super Buu? Sadly there is no Mystic Gohan or Vegetto at this tournament as far as I can tell.

(silly youtube link, ending with "gay")
Cute
imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
February 16 2014 09:49 GMT
#2520
On February 16 2014 17:08 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 13:59 Vari wrote:
though I'm happy to see Innovation in the top8 I'm not really sure today was much of a contest for him.

but I do think he can take herO. not sure he'll get past that but it makes me happy.

I can't explain Polt. He just has mechanics beyond belief, I've never seen him at a lower quality at any tournament. he's always a threat.


oh innovation would get crushed against herO, but he can beat Hero


Inno is leagues ahead of herO in terms of mechanics. In the current meta, many protosses can beat him, not just herO.
Bbyong | MMA | Polt | Dream | Maru | Mvp
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