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[SPL] IM vs Jin Air Round 1 2014 - Page 17

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Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
January 28 2014 12:44 GMT
#321
On January 28 2014 21:38 Qwerty85 wrote:
Oh cmon, really? is exactly what I say when wild DT or oracle appears in my base and I auto lose.

well some players on ladder really don't understand the game, but come very far with cheese / hidden things only.
That is what annoys me with toss, you can get very far (not to pro level ofc) without actually playing the game, leaving others frustrated (not saying there are no cheeses for Terran/Zerg, but I feel they are less effective or harder to pull off)
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
January 28 2014 12:44 GMT
#322
ggggggggggggggg
・゚✧:・゚+..。✧・゚:・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚ ゜・:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING *・゜・:・゚✧:・゚✧。゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:・゜・:・゚✧::・・:・゚・゚
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 28 2014 12:44 GMT
#323
On January 28 2014 21:43 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 21:41 Shellshock wrote:
On January 28 2014 21:40 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
Quick question, why is hero wearing an IM jersey? Is he not allowed to wear liquid stuff since he's playing for IM?

just speculating but it was probably part of the deal to let HerO play for them in proleague so he would advertise their sponsors instead of Liquid's


Hm ok, weird that Liquid would agree to that. Would think they would want to pimp their sponsors.

I don't think Liquid would have a lot of leverage in the negotiation. It's not like IM was desperate to have HerO with the size of their roster.
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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
January 28 2014 12:44 GMT
#324
On January 28 2014 21:41 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 21:33 opterown wrote:
On January 28 2014 21:31 Rollora wrote:
On January 28 2014 21:23 Dingodile wrote:
super lucky...
If dts came 10 sec earlier, maru would have won easily.

maybe timing?
I think on that level you know when the Terran drops his mules (even I know that, but I started as T, now playing random)

i don't think anyone really has perfect macro to be precise to within ~5 seconds, even with mirror builds you often see top top players out of sync

Well 5 secs is already much as a terran. Maybe its not too bad for other races bc you can always warpin more if you have the resources after (besides very early timing/allin like 4 gate), and same is with Zerg in mid/late game.
But Terran has to have the perfect hits on timings, being of 5 secs in a mirror build, I havent seen that before min 12 or later.
Also 5 secs wouldn't change anything. If you are the Toss, be on the save side, wait these 5 secs, then send in the DTs, there won't be a scan for a very very long time


If you don't warp in continously you're going to miss out on your production cycles and drop behind in supply. It's mostly in situations where you're playing greedy and teching that you're withholding warp-ins.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
January 28 2014 12:44 GMT
#325
INCAAAAAAA! :D
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16109 Posts
January 28 2014 12:44 GMT
#326
INCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
January 28 2014 12:44 GMT
#327
lol, dark templars seem to work well against jin air today :3
@QxGDarkCell ._.
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
January 28 2014 12:45 GMT
#328
Weeeeeee
DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
January 28 2014 12:45 GMT
#329
lol
All I do is Stim.
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 12:45:30
January 28 2014 12:45 GMT
#330
Hell yeah Hero !!!
Loire
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore1358 Posts
January 28 2014 12:45 GMT
#331
DTs > Jin Air
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
January 28 2014 12:45 GMT
#332
nice race even against the own race^^^^
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Nomzter
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden2802 Posts
January 28 2014 12:45 GMT
#333
best game of the day
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 28 2014 12:45 GMT
#334
well at least he didn't drag it out
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
January 28 2014 12:45 GMT
#335
Fuck yes HerO! I will not doubt you for awhile. You're clearly more deserving of SPL play than Yonghwa
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Clicker
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1012 Posts
January 28 2014 12:45 GMT
#336
fucking sweet!
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
January 28 2014 12:45 GMT
#337
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SamuelGreen
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden292 Posts
January 28 2014 12:45 GMT
#338
LOL
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 12:46:18
January 28 2014 12:45 GMT
#339
On January 28 2014 21:42 WGT-Baal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 21:40 SC2Toastie wrote:
On January 28 2014 21:39 Qwerty85 wrote:
On January 28 2014 21:36 Salteador Neo wrote:
On January 28 2014 21:33 opterown wrote:
On January 28 2014 21:31 Rollora wrote:
On January 28 2014 21:23 Dingodile wrote:
super lucky...
If dts came 10 sec earlier, maru would have won easily.

maybe timing?
I think on that level you know when the Terran drops his mules (even I know that, but I started as T, now playing random)

i don't think anyone really has perfect macro to be precise to within ~5 seconds, even with mirror builds you often see top top players out of sync


I think pro terrans drop their mules like 10 seconds later than the DT rush timing would hit.

That's why this slightly delayed DT build worked. Maybe.


I think you guys are giving Trap way to much credit. It just caught him by surprise that is it.
I don't think he planned DT delay for 10 seconds knowing Maru would drop mules.

I think you guys are arguing about something nobody can prove until we interview Trap.


Yes, I want to know if he did it on purpose. He ruined my FPL but if it was planned I ll accept it better


There is no way he knows TvP from terran's side so good that he could do such minor and specific adjustment in order to make DTs work. Even Taeja who plays protoss on KR GM level and knows the matchup from both sides gets surprised by protoss sucker punches (like that proxy oracle against sOs.. I think it was at Blizzcon).

edit: well it doesn't matter anyway now since IM won.
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
January 28 2014 12:45 GMT
#340
Woot Protoss games so entertaining !!!!!

I love HerO but DTs are gay -,-
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
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