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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
January 28 2014 12:30 GMT
#281
On January 28 2014 21:30 Ghanburighan wrote:
Most wins in proleague, doesn't get deny out as ace :-P

maru and sos cannot win in the same match dw
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 12:31:49
January 28 2014 12:30 GMT
#282
On January 28 2014 21:29 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 21:19 samurai80 wrote:
This is a brilliant strat by Trap

"strat".
Its a hidden cheese. Every Bronze Player can do that... (in fact, if you try to lose many games and get down to bronze, this is, what will happen to you in every 2nd XvP game: DT rush. the other game you encounter another cheese like void ray allin, cannonrush etc.
No wonder P is hated that much in lower leagues :D
One if you lose and rage vs it on ladder, the opponent will laugh at you and say "scout more". Impossible on some maps, hate that



It was really quick. The control of the DTs was sloppy but the general build is really good.

On January 28 2014 21:31 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 21:23 75 wrote:
well, maru has mules though

joke, right?


Idea of the century: give mules detection
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Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
January 28 2014 12:31 GMT
#283
On January 28 2014 21:23 75 wrote:
well, maru has mules though

joke, right?
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
January 28 2014 12:31 GMT
#284
EMMVEEPEE replay is still EMMVEEPEE
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16126 Posts
January 28 2014 12:31 GMT
#285
MVP 1-0 in Proleague :D
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
January 28 2014 12:31 GMT
#286
On January 28 2014 21:23 Dingodile wrote:
super lucky...
If dts came 10 sec earlier, maru would have won easily.

maybe timing?
I think on that level you know when the Terran drops his mules (even I know that, but I started as T, now playing random)
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
January 28 2014 12:32 GMT
#287
With out a reaper you feel like a blind old man going up against muhammed ali
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 28 2014 12:33 GMT
#288
I have a bad feeling about this. Please don't lose....
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
January 28 2014 12:33 GMT
#289
On January 28 2014 21:32 Fjodorov wrote:
With out a reaper you feel like a blind old man going up against muhammed ali

Idk, building dem reapers sure didnt help flash.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
January 28 2014 12:33 GMT
#290
On January 28 2014 21:31 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 21:23 Dingodile wrote:
super lucky...
If dts came 10 sec earlier, maru would have won easily.

maybe timing?
I think on that level you know when the Terran drops his mules (even I know that, but I started as T, now playing random)

i don't think anyone really has perfect macro to be precise to within ~5 seconds, even with mirror builds you often see top top players out of sync
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
January 28 2014 12:33 GMT
#291
I'd say its a compliment to maru: Only way you can beat him, is a allin or cheese, or some dirty strat
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 12:33:53
January 28 2014 12:33 GMT
#292
On January 28 2014 21:33 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 21:32 Fjodorov wrote:
With out a reaper you feel like a blind old man going up against muhammed ali

Idk, building dem reapers sure didnt help flash.


But atleast you can have the fortune of seeing the punch coming from time to time
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
January 28 2014 12:33 GMT
#293
omfg the korean casters never get old ever
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
January 28 2014 12:34 GMT
#294
I'm so sad there's 2 Terran games out of about 24 matches or so..... -,-
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
January 28 2014 12:35 GMT
#295
On January 28 2014 21:29 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 21:19 samurai80 wrote:
This is a brilliant strat by Trap

"strat".
Its a hidden cheese. Every Bronze Player can do that... (in fact, if you try to lose many games and get down to bronze, this is, what will happen to you in every 2nd XvP game: DT rush. the other game you encounter another cheese like void ray allin, cannonrush etc.
No wonder P is hated that much in lower leagues :D
One if you lose and rage vs it on ladder, the opponent will laugh at you and say "scout more". Impossible on some maps, hate that




I learned fairly fast to keep those scans a little longer against Protoss and take the free wins (keep the natural orbital empty so even the good ones do the mistake and risk running up into the main).
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
January 28 2014 12:36 GMT
#296
On January 28 2014 21:33 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 21:31 Rollora wrote:
On January 28 2014 21:23 Dingodile wrote:
super lucky...
If dts came 10 sec earlier, maru would have won easily.

maybe timing?
I think on that level you know when the Terran drops his mules (even I know that, but I started as T, now playing random)

i don't think anyone really has perfect macro to be precise to within ~5 seconds, even with mirror builds you often see top top players out of sync


I think pro terrans drop their mules like 10 seconds later than the DT rush timing would hit.

That's why this slightly delayed DT build worked. Maybe.
Revolutionist fan
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
January 28 2014 12:36 GMT
#297
On January 28 2014 21:29 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 21:19 samurai80 wrote:
This is a brilliant strat by Trap

"strat".
Its a hidden cheese. Every Bronze Player can do that... (in fact, if you try to lose many games and get down to bronze, this is, what will happen to you in every 2nd XvP game: DT rush. the other game you encounter another cheese like void ray allin, cannonrush etc.
No wonder P is hated that much in lower leagues :D
One if you lose and rage vs it on ladder, the opponent will laugh at you and say "scout more". Impossible on some maps, hate that



Obviously you don't understand the subtleties of Trap's play.
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
January 28 2014 12:36 GMT
#298
Can you built cannons on low ground near the main on the next map? Or is the ground not passable?
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Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
January 28 2014 12:37 GMT
#299
On January 28 2014 21:29 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 21:28 fishb00n wrote:
maru is not _bad_ , but not as stellar as we are used to. calling his days over was a little to dramatic i suppose


I think it's still far from proven. He's played great in PL so far.

Maru IS great, always having the best micro and some very interesting aggressions etc.
Losing against a cheese into cheese into allin OR if held off 3 Base toss with tech vs 2 Base Terran with no tech and no SCVs is no shame, its just a coinflip the Protoss risked and Maru has to risk once his greedy(?) opening got scouted.
Calling his days over if he is one of the top 3 players in PL is a bit harsh, especially if it is achieved with a race that is currently considered underpowered by many (Code A winrates&statistics)
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
January 28 2014 12:38 GMT
#300
Oh cmon, really? is exactly what I say when wild DT or oracle appears in my base and I auto lose.
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