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On January 24 2014 21:28 Zheryn wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2014 21:23 SpunXtain20 wrote:
I have to say, I have a question about the meta...
Late in WoL, esp 2012 there was a shift towards occassional (perhaps even frequent) mass hellion attacks. As a response, zergs started getting ~5 early roaches to simply shut that down and prevent drone/ling/larva losses early at fairly low cost. Since HotS they pretty much stopped doing that...
Now there's been a shift back to mech play, and generally this means a large number of hellions early on. But the vast majority of zergs are still trying to hold on with just lings and queens, and being punished for it (like in this game).
Wouldn't it make sense to just get the early roach warren for 125 minerals if you need it, and pop a few roaches to counteract the hellions? Otherwise so much larva and minerals goes into lings anyway. Seems kinda silly to me. It was pretty much the sole reason hydra lost this game; got behind early and snowballed. Depends on your scouting/what you know of your opponent. You don't want to get roaches if he's going just 6 hellions straight into 3cc bio play, but you definately want roaches against bigger number of hellions with banshees/BF/mech etc.
Meh, I figure with the meta you might as well get it anyway. At worst you'll be *slightly* behind with a few roaches you can use to put on light pressure with or secure your bases; at best you hard counter a very frequent opening at the moment.
Almost every Korean terran is opening reaper/hellion/banshee atm
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On January 24 2014 21:31 Pangpootata wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2014 21:31 Destructicon wrote:
GSL stream went from 15k viewers to 50k, looks like foul play at work. Someone trying to ddos the stream?
Well, the stream description said Waxangel was it!
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damn it, the banelings and.................lag!
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Austria24422 Posts
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Lol Gom went from 15k to 52k and is now back to 11k viewers... What is going on?
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On January 24 2014 21:27 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2014 21:23 Shellshock wrote:0:00  Hydra spawns in the top left  Dream spawns in the bottom bottom right 1:00 quick drone scout from Hydra rax first for Dream gas for Dream 2:00 drone scout harassing the rax building scv Dream pulls 2 scvs to force the drone away hatch first for Hydra pool for Hydra reaper for Dream 3:00 gas for Hydra drone kills an scv in the middle of the map 2nd reaper for Dream 4:00 first reaper in the main of Hydra Hydra saves both damaged drones with spores factory for Dream reactor for Dream low ground CC for Dream 2nd reaper kills ling scouts but they still see the CC 5:00 stream dead?
6:00
3rd CC on the way for Dream but is scouted
reactored hellions for Dream
ling speed finishing up for Hydra
tech lab for Dream
3rd base for Hydra
stim research started for Dream
another gas for Hydra
7:00 45 vs 45
baneling nest for Hydra
bunker in the natural for Dream
hellions and reapers pressuring at the front
more lings for Hydra
8:00 57 vs 50
double ebay for Dream
Dream kills 1 queen
a few hellions die to lings
2 more rax for Dream
9:00
SUDDENLY SKIPS A MINUTE
banelings in the natural
stream frozen again
apparently hydra won
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Dammit, those banelings... sitting on that ramp. Torturing me. Did they make it up and wreak havoc in the terran base?! DID THEY?!
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On January 24 2014 21:33 Baadbeat wrote:
Lol Gom went from 15k to 52k and is now back to 11k viewers... What is going on?
people are very undecisive
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where did those banelings come from? 1 second he was reaper hellion pressuring next second BANELINGS IN THE NATURAL
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Cant we just ban this "Waxangel"?
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Shellshock you are doing a great LR  Lost it at "SUDDENLY SKIPS A MINUTE "
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Austria11528 Posts
it's working for some people? still can't load.
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They probably instantly cut the funds for the oversea prodcast since Khaldor accidently mentioned a competitor of the sponsor HotX
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I think Dreams misstake was making Yamato at the Ultralisk Cavern, he should had killed the Vipers instead O.o
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On January 24 2014 21:34 WGT-Baal wrote:Shellshock you are doing a great LR Lost it at "SUDDENLY SKIPS A MINUTE "
my stream went from like 8:10 to 9:25. I dont even know what to do anymore
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