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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51450 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i2.minus.com/ilWnoWg6GehHp.png) Tuesday, Jan 14 11:30am GMT (GMT+00:00) http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Proleague/Round_1 ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/thumb/3/30/Writers_Icon.png/15px-Writers_Icon.png){kind=icon} ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/r9ZH0.png) ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/c/c6/Uk.png) twitch.tv | youtube | ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/3/36/Kr.png) youtube![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/vA8iEIB.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/LBr19.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/0bAA1Mt.png)  Zest < Yeonsu LE >  ByuL TY < Sejong Research Station > RuinFlash < Bel'Shir Vestige LE > HerOAction < Outboxer > SquirtleAce: Frost LE ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/bv8Kw.png) + Show Spoiler [Spoiler-Free] + + Show Spoiler [Overall Results] + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/l5YZ8.png) + Show Spoiler + Game 1 Game 2 Game 3 Game 4 Ace Match ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/3wcCS.png) + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/WdLE8.png) + Show Spoiler + | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51450 Posts
Poll: Winner? KT Rolster (21) Incredible Miracle (13) 34 total votes Your vote: Winner? Poll: Most Anticipated Match Flash vs HerO (25) TY vs Ruin (4) Action vs Squirtle (4) Zest vs ByuL (3) 36 total votes Your vote: Most Anticipated Match (Vote): Zest vs ByuL | ||
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SAFenix
Canada439 Posts
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NovaMB
Germany9534 Posts
Go TY btw. | ||
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Muffloe
Sweden6061 Posts
Most likely 3-1 that is | ||
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Hier
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Ace Frehley
2030 Posts
Squirtle/Byul win for IM Flash/TY for KT I guess KT wins the ace match | ||
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Vasoline73
United States7755 Posts
Haha. I do hope he wins though, hard to believe at one point this was the dude who played Flash on Roadrunner. Show us that skill! | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
Sending Ruin is probably a waste, but then again KT is using Action so it's even. | ||
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Atlasy
Hungary229 Posts
On January 14 2014 05:34 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Well obviously IM. Sending Ruin is probably a waste, but then again KT is using Action so it's even. lol Sending players that haven't played is not "wasting". Also I think it's a great decision by IM. I mean they were so lucky to get TY. He hasn't lost a single game this season. So probably would have defeated anyone in IM now that IM sent out someone who is expected to lose anyway they have bigger chances to pick off games that would have been more one sided. Anyways Kt fighting! Probably 3-0 (Zest wins, Action won't play) or 3-2 (Zest loses, Action loses) for Kt. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On January 14 2014 05:49 Atlasy wrote: lol Sending players that haven't played is not "wasting". Also I think it's a great decision by IM. I mean they were so lucky to get TY. He hasn't lost a single game this season. So probably would have defeated anyone in IM now that IM sent out someone who is expected to lose anyway they have bigger chances to pick off games that would have been more one sided. Anyways Kt fighting! Probably 3-0 (Zest wins, Action won't play) or 3-2 (Zest loses, Action loses) for Kt. Well idk, there's Yonghwa who 4-0'd TY a couple of days ago and is all around better than Ruin... but hey, maybe Ruin has improved and he'll surprise like Byul | ||
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TimENT
United States1425 Posts
TY > Ruin Flash > Hero Action < Squirtle ACE TY > Byul KT wins | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Every result is possible here, but i guess, something like 3-2 KT is logic. But TY can't smash opponents everytime, HerO can suddenly win by himself and not by Hydra throwing, Action can do whatever he wants and Zest can kill ByuL. FlaSh-Mvp ace match gogo! | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On January 14 2014 06:45 Dodgin wrote: I don't really believe we can win this =/ If you don't believe, who will? :D IM for top-3, cheer for it. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On January 14 2014 09:22 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: If you're not believe, who will? :D IM for top-3, cheer for it. Why me ofc >_> | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On January 14 2014 09:22 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: If you're not believe, who will? :D IM for top-3, cheer for it. I'd like to believe but these matchups look way worse for us than vs CJ and we got crushed vs CJ | ||
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Lovedoll
Japan540 Posts
On January 14 2014 06:45 Dodgin wrote: I don't really believe we can win this =/ .....I believe..... | ||
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Steins;Gate
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omisa
United States494 Posts
TY > Ruin Flash < Hero Action > Squirtle Ace - Flash < Byul | ||
The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
Zest < ByuL TY > Ruin Flash > HerO Action < Squirtle Flash > ByuL This is totally reasonable so I hope it happens | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES49626 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
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ninjamyst
United States1903 Posts
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
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ETisME
12309 Posts
I am not that impressed with squirtle play so I hope we won't get there. the key game is ruin vs ty | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
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Pangpootata
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TOMisAfish
Australia123 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
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On January 14 2014 14:01 Pangpootata wrote: Why do some people think that KT will send out TY as ace? That is extremely unlikely. For the past few years, Stats came out like a few times, Zest came out once this year, and that's it. It's Flash all the way, even through the time when Flash was cursed with that 6 Ace-match losing streak. Cause TY is better | ||
[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
Zest- ByuL TY - Ruin Flash - HerO Action - Squirtle Ace: TY - Squirtle And thats also my prediction, although the ace match is unlikely. | ||
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fejsik
Czech Republic23 Posts
Zest < ByuL TY > Ruin - I hope Ruin surprise us, he is in my FPL team and I know he is good Flash > HerO can go either way, but i expect HerO choke against Flash ... cause you know he is HerO Action < Squirtle Ace if game go so far, IM definitely send ByuL and cause KT don't have strong zerg to beat him they send TY TY > ByuL so unfortunately 3:2 for KT | ||
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Daswollvieh
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mahrgell
Germany3942 Posts
 Just lose and go home! | ||
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
On January 14 2014 04:09 Hier wrote: Mafia Zerg is playing?! Yeah it's great! :D Can't wait to see him in action. | ||
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
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goody153
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On January 14 2014 16:38 goody153 wrote: who's ruin ? code A upcomer who appeared on IM in HotS. He's likely the weakest IM toss | ||
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Ctesias
4595 Posts
Either way, TY and Flash are always highly entertaining to watch. | ||
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ETisME
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PresenceSc2
Australia4032 Posts
gogo HerO ^_____^ | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24578 Posts
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NovaMB
Germany9534 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:06 Heartland wrote: Who to anti-cheer for more... Flash. Brings the best out of everyone | ||
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Ammanas
Slovakia2166 Posts
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Fuell
Netherlands3111 Posts
TY > Ruin Flash > Hero Action < Squirtle Flash < Squirtle PLEASE FOR MY FPL | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24578 Posts
I ALWAYS cheer against Flash. I guess I will be cheering for IM today. | ||
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Derez
Netherlands6068 Posts
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Bowzar
Sweden741 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:11 Derez wrote: The Byul and his protoss friends line-up is making me want to choose another team icon. They lack depth. They need to recruit or else they are fucked. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51450 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:11 Derez wrote: The Byul and his protoss friends line-up is making me want to choose another team icon. IM Coach...so bad ^_^ ByuLRuinSquirtleTrapUngNimYongHwaMvpNesTeaI guess MVP won't be playing as he is in WCS EU, is NesTea still in WCS AM? Another who won't be playing. Yeah i actually guess they are pretty short  | ||
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jekku
Canada1640 Posts
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Tchado
Jordan1831 Posts
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Tchado
Jordan1831 Posts
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Die4Ever
United States17595 Posts
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:14 Tchado wrote: I have a serious question , why isn't mvp playing in proleague ? did he make an announcement that he will focus on WCS EU ? still had wrist problems ? no idea Not in good shape most likely, hasnt been for months | ||
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Bowzar
Sweden741 Posts
I think they have the smallest roster in PL. | ||
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Lovedoll
Japan540 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:11 Derez wrote: The Byul and his protoss friends line-up is making me want to choose another team icon. I agree. I'm an IM fan to the very end, but it's been very hard for me to cheer for them this Proleague. With Mvp and Nestea past their primes, core team league players like Yoda and First gone from the team, I feel like I'm forcing myself to root for a team that's not the same IM I used to know. | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24578 Posts
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Tchado
Jordan1831 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:15 Zealously wrote: Not in good shape most likely, hasnt been for months Ok thanks , mvp + nestea are the only reason I rooted for IM for years , they aint playing. | ||
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Talionis
Scotland4085 Posts
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Caladan
Germany1238 Posts
:O :O :O Match of the day! | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
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Derez
Netherlands6068 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:11 Derez wrote: The Byul and his protoss friends line-up is making me want to choose another team icon. It's kind of sad, the only player oldschool IM player that plays in PL is yonghwa and he's been pretty awful so far... | ||
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Talack
Canada2742 Posts
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Daswollvieh
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On January 14 2014 20:19 Dodgin wrote: It's kind of sad, the only player oldschool IM player that plays in PL is yonghwa and he's been pretty awful so far... But he looks awfully smart. | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
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Heartland
Sweden24578 Posts
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Heartland
Sweden24578 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:20 Schelim wrote: gogo IM!!!! *waves a tiny IM flag unenthusiastically* | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:19 Dodgin wrote: It's kind of sad, the only player oldschool IM player that plays in PL is yonghwa and he's been pretty awful so far... Ruin is at least home grown talent as well  | ||
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Destructicon
4713 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:20 Heartland wrote: Why is there no more "mindmindmind"? I'm asking myself the same thing, I loved mind time! | ||
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Bowzar
Sweden741 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:18 opterown wrote: a lot of teams people cheer for these days aren't quite the same as what they used to be, it's sad IMs case is so weird tho because their players have been loyal for so long and then suddenly they just leave. Something big must have happend and we will never know what because Jessica doesnt own the team. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
lol. | ||
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Pangpootata
1838 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:16 Lovedoll wrote: I agree. I'm an IM fan to the very end, but it's been very hard for me to cheer for them this Proleague. With Mvp and Nestea past their primes, core team league players like Yoda and First gone from the team, I feel like I'm forcing myself to root for a team that's not the same IM I used to know. In Starcraft, whole rosters change every 3 years or so, nothing surprising. Even shorter if your team is rich, like SKT which has PartinG, Classic, Bravo and SK in today's lineup and none of them was around 1 year ago. Or KT which buys starleague champions like Luxury/ForGG/Mind and suck their powers to give to flash, thereby making them go into slumps. | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24578 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:22 Bowzar wrote: IMs case is so weird tho because their players have been loyal for so long and then suddenly they just leave. Something big must have happend and we will never know what because Jessica doesnt own the team. I think you should just consider occam's razor. It's probably an economic issue, or the issues that make players migrate as they do in general. | ||
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XiaoJoyce-
China2908 Posts
I remember the last game vs Parting  | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:22 Bowzar wrote: IMs case is so weird tho because their players have been loyal for so long and then suddenly they just leave. Something big must have happend and we will never know what because Jessica doesnt own the team. yeah the only player i care about still on prime is creator, bleh, it kinda sucks aye | ||
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NovaMB
Germany9534 Posts
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ETisME
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Heartland
Sweden24578 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:24 opterown wrote: yeah the only player i care about still on prime is creator, bleh, it kinda sucks aye You're not on the kalwagon? | ||
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:24 NovaMB wrote: Is he still calling Flash the "king of starcraft" if you repeat a lie enough times, it becomes the truth. | ||
Olli
Austria24417 Posts
TY > Ruin Flash < HerO Action > Squirtle Flash < HerO Please?! | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:23 Pangpootata wrote: In Starcraft, whole rosters change every 3 years or so, nothing surprising. Even shorter if your team is rich, like SKT which has PartinG, Classic, Bravo and SK in today's lineup and none of them was around 1 year ago. Or KT which buys starleague champions like Luxury/ForGG/Mind and suck their powers to give to flash, thereby making them go into slumps. I don't identify with SKT anymore either. The only reason I still identify with IM is because of Mvp. | ||
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panzercrusher
Poland457 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:24 NovaMB wrote: Is he still calling Flash the "king of starcraft" "King of confidence". | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:25 DarkLordOlli wrote: Zest < Byul TY > Ruin Flash < HerO Action > Squirtle Flash < HerO Please?! I think Squirtle beats Action, but else I agree | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
i dno i loved the players before loving the team, if you sorta get me. someone getting picked up that i had previously no connection to before - it takes time for me to warm up to them. | ||
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Nomzter
Sweden2802 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:25 DarkLordOlli wrote: Zest < Byul TY > Ruin Flash < HerO Action > Squirtle Flash < HerO Please?! yes | ||
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Tchado
Jordan1831 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:25 Dodgin wrote: if you repeat a lie enough times, it becomes the truth. There is only 1 king , the king of wings | ||
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:25 ACrow wrote: I think Squirtle beats Action, but else I agree Oh I would think so too but the thought of HerO beating Flash twice makes me too excited | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24578 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:25 opterown wrote: i dno i loved the players before loving the team, if you sorta get me. someone getting picked up that i had previously no connection to before - it takes time for me to warm up to them. Yeah, I get that. I think the interesting part about Proleague, and to some degree Kespa, is that you can be a fan of the team first and the players second. Usually it's the other way around. You like a team because they have a few players you like. But sure, for me it feels so weird to not see Bisu/Best in the SK Telecom lineup. But I still like SK Telecom as a team, while with Startale I am slowly feeling a decline in #passion with Bomber departing as well. | ||
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Brownic
Australia69 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:24 NovaMB wrote: Is he still calling Flash the "king of starcraft" All this hype will pay off one day... | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8374 Posts
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Lazzi
Switzerland1923 Posts
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Pangpootata
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:27 Heartland wrote: Yeah, I get that. I think the interesting part about Proleague, and to some degree Kespa, is that you can be a fan of the team first and the players second. Usually it's the other way around. You like a team because they have a few players you like. But sure, for me it feels so weird to not see Bisu/Best in the SK Telecom lineup. But I still like SK Telecom as a team, while with Startale I am slowly feeling a decline in #passion with Bomber departing as well. mm, this is why i think it's important for FPL to happen, it's not super interesting without something to get you invested into it haha | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
Mvp vs Soulkey Nestea vs Rain Yonghwa vs soO ByuL vs Parting would be so beautiful | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24578 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:30 Schelim wrote: IM vs SKT1 Mvp vs Soulkey Nestea vs Rain Yonghwa vs soO ByuL vs Parting would be so beautiful Yes : ) | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:30 Schelim wrote: IM vs SKT1 Mvp vs Soulkey Nestea vs Rain Yonghwa vs soO ByuL vs Parting would be so beautiful mvp, happy, nestea, losira plz | ||
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Pangpootata
1838 Posts
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XiaoJoyce-
China2908 Posts
Flash and TY Wins Ace match | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:31 Pangpootata wrote: Why is Prime's game difference -10? Kal won 2 and creator won 1 so it should be -9. Did they get a penalty for something? yeah -1 for checking replays apparently | ||
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
It's alright, they can afford that | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
now you made me all nostalgic | ||
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Pangpootata
1838 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:30 Schelim wrote: IM vs SKT1 Mvp vs Soulkey Nestea vs Rain Yonghwa vs soO ByuL vs Parting would be so beautiful Mvp vs BeSt Nestea vs Bisu Yonghwa vs Fantasy Byul vs iloveoov would be better | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
i was going off active IM players. but yes. | ||
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Ammanas
Slovakia2166 Posts
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Caladan
Germany1238 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:33 Pangpootata wrote: Mvp vs BeSt Nestea vs Bisu Yonghwa vs Fantasy Byul vs iloveoov would be better Omg! Totally would go crazy for that. :D | ||
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iLoveKT
Philippines3615 Posts
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:34 Schelim wrote: i was going off active IM players. but yes. well if you go nostalgia mode might as well go full nostalgia mkp, byun, maru, creator | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
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Pangpootata
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Bowzar
Sweden741 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:34 Ammanas wrote: was that like exactly one guy cheering for IM? :D Pretty sure I heard a chant countdown followed by crickets yesterday. | ||
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SeventhPride
712 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:36 opterown wrote: well if you go nostalgia mode might as well go full nostalgia mkp, byun, maru, creator Where IS Mkp?? | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
going for the dirty Riot moneyz | ||
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
He's playing LoL now, still living at PRIME house. | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:36 opterown wrote: well if you go nostalgia mode might as well go full nostalgia mkp, byun, maru, creator Mvp vs Creator (super tournament rematch) Nestea vs MKP (GSL semis rematch) Happy vs ByuN Losira vs Maru | ||
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Tchado
Jordan1831 Posts
Playing league of legends | ||
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gingerfluffmuff
Austria4570 Posts
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SeventhPride
712 Posts
Oh i see thank you | ||
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:37 Schelim wrote: Mvp vs Creator (super tournament rematch) Nestea vs MKP (GSL semis rematch) Happy vs ByuN Losira vs Maru GSL finals rematch you mean! | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
lol i'm stupid. wow i hadn't even realized MKP lost ALL THREE of his GSL finals to IM :D | ||
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Pangpootata
1838 Posts
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Tsubbi
Germany7967 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:40 Pangpootata wrote: Byul lost his third to 4 zealots msc lol with an early speed, didnt scout any p movement at all lol | ||
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Pangpootata
1838 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:39 Schelim wrote: lol i'm stupid. wow i hadn't even realized MKP lost ALL THREE of his GSL finals to IM :D Well, IM has won 8 GSL finals. If someone lost a GSL finals, especially in the early days, it is very likely he lost it to an IM player. | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
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Zheryn
Sweden3653 Posts
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Doublemint
Austria8374 Posts
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
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SeventhPride
712 Posts
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Zheryn
Sweden3653 Posts
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Lazzi
Switzerland1923 Posts
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m0ck
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:43 m0ck wrote: Zests macro looks really off On January 14 2014 20:42 Lazzi wrote: Pretty clean game by Zest so far hahahaha best part of lrthreads | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51450 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
ok | ||
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SeventhPride
712 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:42 Zheryn wrote: Also feels like zergs are doing really weird openers today, I have no idea what's up with this build from ByuL. Probably expecting gate way pressure. So he took his 3rd quite late. There is a pretty popular build right now on korean ladder where you open stargate one phoenix clear OL scouts to void ray/gate way pressure. Pretty painful if you over extend yourself as zerg. TL;dr Byul predicted wrongly. | ||
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
cmon ByuL lol | ||
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Tsubbi
Germany7967 Posts
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
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ETisME
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gingerfluffmuff
Austria4570 Posts
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ViperPL
Poland1775 Posts
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Roman666
Poland1440 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:45 Dodgin wrote: Byul just died to zealots ok At 16 min mark. | ||
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shadymmj
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
this SEND MVP | ||
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Talionis
Scotland4085 Posts
Byul going for the soulkey build. Losing the same way as sk did to rain in the hot 6ix cup same map as well. | ||
Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:44 Undead1993 wrote: hahahaha best part of lrthreads Teehee! | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51450 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:45 Dodgin wrote: Byul just died to zealots ok OMG He actually has rofl Lost hive.. 30 drones....4th base LOL | ||
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dizzy101
Netherlands2066 Posts
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samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
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Derez
Netherlands6068 Posts
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Sweden13480 Posts
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
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Germany6583 Posts
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Destructicon
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Fjodorov
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Kergy
Peru2011 Posts
It's so great to see multitasking like this, thank you based Zest! | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51450 Posts
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Jono7272
United Kingdom6330 Posts
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Dark.Carnival
United States5095 Posts
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tar
Germany991 Posts
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NovaMB
Germany9534 Posts
On January 14 2014 03:17 NovaMB wrote: So now that ByuL is off my anti, I fully expect him to lose every single match remaining. Go TY btw. Welp. | ||
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:46 Dodgin wrote: fuck this SEND MVP Coach Kang would never do that if he has even just a bit of reason. Oh well, remember 2011 Teamleague IM... | ||
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KoRStarvid
Sweden767 Posts
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juvenal
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Roman666
Poland1440 Posts
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BeaTeR
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
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IAmWithStupid
Russian Federation1016 Posts
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:47 Jono7272 wrote: Zealots are good. It's more warp in. Good choice to warp in Zealots, since ByuL only had lings to deal with it so really good way to abuse it. That said, it's moments like this I wish warp in had some sort of draw back z.z | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:47 Ragnarork wrote: Coach Kang would never do that if he has even just a bit of reason. Oh well, remember 2011 Teamleague IM... Don't care, send Mvp anyway. It's like when SKT kept losing last season because no Bisu. NO BISU NO WIN. NO MVP NO WIN. IM will lose to every BW team. | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
haha, put him back onto your anti, we want IM to have a shot at winning something ^^ | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51450 Posts
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gingerfluffmuff
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On January 14 2014 20:47 Fjodorov wrote: so does anyone understand this game? Zest is getting all the tech, voidrays, colossus and templar archives at 13 min and is also killing Byul with zealots all over his bases. wtf Cancelling the 3rd is bad for Z, mkay? | ||
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On January 14 2014 20:47 Fjodorov wrote: so does anyone understand this game? Zest is getting all the tech, voidrays, colossus and templar archives at 13 min and is also killing Byul with zealots all over his bases. wtf Byul lost his third so his timings will be behind if he tries to go for a macro game still. Zest pretty much has free reign to do anything. | ||
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:47 Fjodorov wrote: so does anyone understand this game? Zest is getting all the tech, voidrays, colossus and templar archives at 13 min and is also killing Byul with zealots all over his bases. wtf There's a bit more to it than that. After Byul got his third cancelled he made two big rounds of lings to cancel/delay Zest's third for as long as possible but didn't accomplish anything. Then he had to kick into plan B which was expand quickly twice and try to fall back on the most stable army that could hold off attacks and relying on static defense against prism harrass. Spores were off though so the warpin happened and then Byul died. Byul was massively cutting corners after his commitment to killing Zest's third did nothing and Zest killed him for it | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:49 Garnet wrote: Proleague logic: no one loses forever (except Hydra), no one wins forever (except TY). there is a Maru kid out there too | ||
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Jono7272
United Kingdom6330 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:48 LimitSEA wrote: It's more warp in. Good choice to warp in Zealots, since ByuL only had lings to deal with it so really good way to abuse it. That said, it's moments like this I wish warp in had some sort of draw back z.z Yeah, all those zealots being warped in to the main does look a bit silly. And is damn strong. | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On January 14 2014 12:03 The_Templar wrote: If Byul loses against zest I will go cry in a corner | ||
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:48 Dodgin wrote: Don't care, send Mvp anyway. It's like when SKT kept losing last season because no Bisu. NO BISU NO WIN. NO MVP NO WIN. IM will lose to every BW team. Mvp is fielded. "But he's gonna lose, he's terrible in teamleagues". "WE DON'T CARE IT'S FUCKIN' MVP". Damn that dude I don't remember the name was right, Mvp just carves his legacy even when losing | ||
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SeventhPride
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On January 14 2014 20:49 Jono7272 wrote: Yeah, all those zealots being warped in to the main does look a bit silly. And is damn strong. Silly to look at , annoying to play against. Sigh. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51450 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:47 Pandemona wrote: | ||
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:49 Garnet wrote: Proleague logic: no one loses forever (except Hydra) Did sOs win a game or is he still 0-5? | ||
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ETisME
12309 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:49 The_Templar wrote: but it's your birthday | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51450 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:49 The_Templar wrote: Crying on your birthday Sad times | ||
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:49 The_Templar wrote: Happy birthday! + Show Spoiler + Sorry, if that was cruel. | ||
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MangoMountain
Norway2044 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:50 SeventhPride wrote: Silly to look at , annoying to play against. Sigh. But damn satisfying to do | ||
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SeventhPride
712 Posts
You MONSTER | ||
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:49 The_Templar wrote: the way he died should also make you cut yourself some ohh and happy birthday templar <3 | ||
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
Still winless I believe. #BestPlayerOfTheWorld #CaptainOfMyFPL #Shit | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:49 The_Templar wrote: Happy B-Day nonetheless <3 | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
0-4 tho iirc | ||
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Austria24417 Posts
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:50 Schelim wrote: alright, Byul lost a game. but now we'll see a Baby getting Ruined, TY very much, then our HerO will have the opponent gone in a Flash, and finally we'll see some Squirtle Action. 9/10 - only cause you couldnt use TY somehow ;P | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
When? What? How? Wolf please | ||
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:53 DarkLordOlli wrote: Is Ruin shaking hard or is he just moving his mouse a bit? didn't see, but he does look kinda nervous imo! | ||
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
Yep, 0-4. | ||
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
Yep , 0-4. three regular and one ace match lost, and he didn't play in their 3-0 over CJ. | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:53 Dark.Carnival wrote: baby it's tyme for IM to fall into ruin~ It's time to ruin the KT babies | ||
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:53 Dodgin wrote: Ruin was a top protoss on IM? When? What? How? Wolf please http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Ruin/Results go figure | ||
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:53 DarkLordOlli wrote: Is Ruin shaking hard or is he just moving his mouse a bit? I didnt see it, was it anything like Kassia? | ||
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:53 Dodgin wrote: Ruin was a top protoss on IM? When? What? How? Wolf please W-Well I mean.. He did beat MMA that one time? That was pretty good, yeah? Seriously though, wtf Wolf. | ||
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Bowzar
Sweden741 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:52 Ammanas wrote: how could anyone expect Byul to win against Zest? Don't you remember how he played against Life in IEM NY? Pre-streak "Who the fuck is Byul? lol ez wont even have to prepare" Gets a streak going "Byul is pretty good maybe I should prepare something." GG Byul. | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:55 Bowzar wrote: Pre-streak "Who the fuck is Byul? lol ez wont even have to prepare" Gets a streak going "Byul is pretty good maybe I should prepare something." GG Byul. well there was WCS NA before to see a bit about him. | ||
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Pangpootata
1838 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:55 Bowzar wrote: Pre-streak "Who the fuck is Byul? lol ez wont even have to prepare" Gets a streak going "Byul is pretty good maybe I should prepare something." GG Byul. Hey Byul had 4-1 Proleague record before this season, okay? | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:53 liberate71 wrote: 9/10 - only cause you couldnt use TY somehow ;P he did, thank you ;p | ||
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Dark.Carnival
United States5095 Posts
just as i think that he starts the factory | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:56 Dark.Carnival wrote: wonder if TY will do the tank thing again like he did vs sOs looks a lot like it atm /E there we go, n°1 map abuser for sure. | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:55 Bowzar wrote: Pre-streak "Who the fuck is Byul? lol ez wont even have to prepare" Gets a streak going "Byul is pretty good maybe I should prepare something." GG Byul. Pre-streak he was already the runner up of WCS AM, nobody should've taken him lightly. But ye, you're right, you could see that Zest was well prepared against Byul. | ||
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sashkata
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51450 Posts
Proxxxxyyyyyy | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51450 Posts
Early HOTS stuff | ||
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Undead1993
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On January 14 2014 20:58 DarkLordOlli wrote: YES stargate, I like that who are yo ucheering for? | ||
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:58 Pangpootata wrote: Stargate instead of robo, GG ruin Oracle can give vision too, but your'e right, not looking good. | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
well he plays protoss and hero is on IM, soooo...? ;p | ||
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
The stargate is actually amazing against factory play | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:59 ACrow wrote: ugh, why waste the PO versus 3 hellions? now he almost lost his nat almost is a bit of a strecht. The non stop stalker production did the job easily | ||
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:58 opterown wrote: well he plays protoss and hero is on IM, soooo...? ;p yeah :D but honestly i didn't expect ruin to hold it that well with a sg opening | ||
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Austria24417 Posts
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:59 ACrow wrote: ugh, why waste the PO versus 3 hellions? now he almost lost his nat I think it's good, you need high dps vs the hellions or you will lose a lot of probes. | ||
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Doublemint
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On January 14 2014 21:00 DarkLordOlli wrote: He keeps making phoenixes, I love that HerO showing them IM Protoss how to PvT  | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:01 tar wrote: I missed the beginning! Any early damage done by the stargate? defended a hellion/marine/mine/medivac pressure almost flawlessly and killed like 3scvs | ||
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:01 tar wrote: I missed the beginning! Any early damage done by the stargate? Nope, proxy starport and factory from Ty. Almost perfect defense vs mine+2hellion drop in main and ~6 marine and bunker push on natural. He got phoenix from the stargate to deny medivac. | ||
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imre
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Amestir
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tar
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:03 Dodgin wrote: this is offtopic but I just realized Yoda is actually Alive I'm sorry what | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On January 14 2014 12:03 The_Templar wrote: If Byul loses against zest I will go cry in a corner Zest < ByuL TY > Ruin Flash > HerO Action < Squirtle Flash > ByuL This is totally reasonable so I hope it happens happy birthday,kid crying in the corner. + Show Spoiler + naw son, really, happy birthday, have a good one. | ||
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Olli
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51450 Posts
Think Baby in trouble | ||
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imre
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Dodgin
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They both won one big tournament and then dropped off the map, and no one ever talks about them. They're also both teamless right now. | ||
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:04 Doublemint wrote: wow... almost all the phoenixes are dead... BUT AT WHAT COST!? Way too much I'd say... | ||
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:05 LimitSEA wrote: What does TY's army look like now? Dunno it's so tiny I can't really see it. | ||
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Undead1993
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Doublemint
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:05 Dodgin wrote: They both won one big tournament and then dropped off the map, and no one ever talks about them. They're also both teamless right now. hahaha Alive is a bit more oldschool, YoDa can be Alive 2.0 though | ||
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Fjodorov
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51450 Posts
Ruin lolol. Ok now he in trouble :s Game is even / in favor or Baby now | ||
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:05 Dodgin wrote: They both won one big tournament and then dropped off the map, and no one ever talks about them. They're also both teamless right now. Well alive was on the map quite a bit during 2013, doing well in WCS. Yoda is nowhere to be seen since his IEM win. | ||
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AlternativeEgo
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On January 14 2014 21:05 Dodgin wrote: They both won one big tournament and then dropped off the map, and no one ever talks about them. They're also both teamless right now. Joining EG to play in PL is not really "dropped off" though. | ||
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m0ck
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On January 14 2014 21:06 AlternativeEgo wrote: Joining EG to play in PL is not really "dropped off" though. Sure it is, It's not like anyone is going to remember Prime B teamer #2485 that played in PL this season. | ||
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Bowzar
Sweden741 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:05 Dodgin wrote: They both won one big tournament and then dropped off the map, and no one ever talks about them. They're also both teamless right now. They both didnt give a fuck when they won so no one else did. Stupid Yoda blocking Mvp from another big championship. | ||
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Destructicon
4713 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:06 sAsImre wrote: baby is a monster god, he came back from such a shitty position (even if ruin allowed him too by sticking to his initial plan I think) I think you are giving Baby to much credit, had this been MC, or Rain or PartinG he would have been dead 5 mins ago from some sort of timing, or he'd be dying now due to massive pressure from a 3 base toss with chargelot archon. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51450 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:07 DJHelium wrote: Isn't Fenix still on IM? Nope, got released a while back. November maybe? | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:06 DJHelium wrote: Well alive was on the map quite a bit during 2013, doing well in WCS. Yoda is nowhere to be seen since his IEM win. So Yoda is even more invisible. Can we make this a thing? | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:08 Dodgin wrote: Sure it is, It's not like anyone is going to remember Prime B teamer #2485 that played in PL this season. aLive actually won games | ||
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Canada39254 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
He did? I don't even remember any of them. | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
What are they supposed to do? defend vs Vikings? Rather use Templar or even just produce more Colossi so the ground battle is won fast | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:08 Destructicon wrote: I think you are giving Baby to much credit, had this been MC, or Rain or PartinG he would have been dead 5 mins ago from some sort of timing, or he'd be dying now due to massive pressure from a 3 base toss with chargelot archon. the way he got the third + killed a ton of probes was clutch but yeah ruin isn't doing anything and'll die. | ||
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
and he actually knows how to treat a lady apart from the other na koreans | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51450 Posts
It looked like one of Babys marines just fell off the cliff/edge of map 0.o | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:09 AlternativeEgo wrote: I'm not buying it, Dodgin. aLive has been kicking ass and shit post IPL This just means that Yoda deserves the " Invisible " title even more than Alive does. | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:09 DarkLordOlli wrote: Ruin made some key mistakes there D: it really looked like he had a plan before the game and stuck to it while it was way off considering what was actually happening. | ||
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:10 tar wrote: ruin does not like to multi task apparently. he d not react at all to the units killing all the workers at the 3rd. gg He's shown great multitasking in previous games. He just seems nervous playing in PL so made a lot of mistakes. | ||
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Looms
United States4624 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:09 Pandemona wrote: Wait, did someone GIF that please? It looked like one of Babys marines just fell off the cliff/edge of map 0.o yeah I definitely saw something like that too lol | ||
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:10 Za7oX wrote: Shit. HerO going to have a lot of pressure on him going into this match T_____________T It's okay, it's only Flash. | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:10 NovaMB wrote: lol how did Ruin lose this He never took advantage of TY when he traded his base for TY's army, gave too much respect to TY. He had to at least force a defense from TY. | ||
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AlternativeEgo
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On January 14 2014 21:10 Dodgin wrote: This just means that Yoda deserves the " Invisible " title even more than Alive does. But who wins between Sting and Yoda? That's a tougher one. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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yeah he has god awful TvP. | ||
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
all the while not upgrading his army. With TY's third up he was free to keep upgrading and getting ghosts out and those just win the game. No way for Ruin to go over to templar or a ground army because a) templar would have been way too late and b) his ground army would have been severely outupgraded Gotta say he didn't play that well D: | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:12 AlternativeEgo wrote: But who wins between Sting and Yoda? That's a tougher one. between who? | ||
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:10 Dodgin wrote: This just means that Yoda deserves the " Invisible " title even more than Alive does. The thing is that alive is invisible and forgotten even though he keeps putting up good results. That's why it's ironic/fun. We really haven't seen anything from Yoda since IEM. No fun in saying he's invisible, since it's true. | ||
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Elroi
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Now I hope flash completes the sweep. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
why are you here | ||
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Penev
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On January 14 2014 21:12 juvenal wrote: Awful puns, awful puns everywhere. Yeah, they ruin the experience.. | ||
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On January 14 2014 21:12 Jetaap wrote: Is the crowd always that empty for proleague? uhhh, usually. | ||
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gingerfluffmuff
Austria4570 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:12 vthree wrote: He never took advantage of TY when he traded his base for TY's army, gave too much respect to TY. He had to at least force a defense from TY. Not even the 3rd had to be lifted, normally you should see a massive onslaught on the natural ramp where only pulling scvs can save the T. | ||
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On January 14 2014 21:10 Zeon0 wrote: I dont watch much starcraft anymore, but has any P ever won after staying on two bases that long vs a 3 base T? Yes, but you need really really good storms to pull that off. Colossi armies can snowball slight leads, but not a big comeback unless the terran literally makes no vikings. | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:11 Jono7272 wrote: Don't worry, HerO deals well with pressure... They should just blindside him until it's his time to play, and don't tell him the score scratch that, they should just never tell him anything and take him along for unimportant "show matches" | ||
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Looks like we are going to have another 3-1 for AntiKTFlash. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:09 ACrow wrote: I don't get the mass phoenix vs T What are they supposed to do? defend vs Vikings? Rather use Templar or even just produce more Colossi so the ground battle is won fast he should have wiped a mineral line 1 or 2 times before attacking. But I guess he feared the Ghosts and wanted to end it. Thats also why he didn't defend the drop at the 3rd. | ||
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It looked quite fool these last couple of days. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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the sun is down so its kinda hard to fly kites. | ||
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juvenal
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ah you're the hero i need, took all the right actions, ty! | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:14 BLinD-RawR wrote: the sun is down so its kinda hard to fly kites. I thought you didn't have any passion for sc2 anymore ;; | ||
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Pangpootata
1838 Posts
Only SC2Proleague is empty. But SKT vs KT always draws full crowds still. | ||
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On January 14 2014 21:14 Dodgin wrote: I thought you didn't have any passion for sc2 anymore ;; I'm not watching, I'm just sitting in the thread because its active and its KT. | ||
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Germany6583 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:14 BLinD-RawR wrote: the sun is down so its kinda hard to fly kites. http://games.softpedia.com/get/Freeware-Games/Kite-Flight.shtml there you go buddy | ||
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Canada39254 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:15 shadymmj wrote: have to agree, flash's tvp is not very good. he's playing from the opposite position now imo, in this matchup, the Terran in BW has roughly become the Protoss in sc2. If you get what I mean. It doesn't matter, hero is going to choke. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:16 BLinD-RawR wrote: I'm not watching, I'm just sitting in the thread because its active and its KT. oh, good. | ||
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juvenal
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On January 14 2014 21:15 shadymmj wrote: have to agree, flash's tvp is not very good. he's playing from the opposite position now imo, in this matchup, the Terran in BW has roughly become the Protoss in sc2. If you get what I mean. flash had excellent tvp at the end of wol though, raped Sun ez | ||
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On January 14 2014 21:16 ACrow wrote: http://games.softpedia.com/get/Freeware-Games/Kite-Flight.shtml there you go buddy u so funny. | ||
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m0ck
4194 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:12 DarkLordOlli wrote: Ruin had that third up but wasn't making probes for a long time then got his third sniped, then didn't go to kill/lift TY's third all the while not upgrading his army. With TY's third up he was free to keep upgrading and getting ghosts out and those just win the game. No way for Ruin to go over to templar or a ground army because a) templar would have been way too late and b) his ground army would have been severely outupgraded Gotta say he didn't play that well D: 3 colossi vs 4 vikings, but cant handle bringing a probe when heading out and goes back home instead of just a moving natural/cancelling third/anything. Really poor. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51450 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:10 Pandemona wrote: | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:11 sAsImre wrote: it really looked like he had a plan before the game and stuck to it while it was way off considering what was actually happening. I think that is what separates the 'top' koreans from the 'average' koreans. All the koreans on pro teams can execute builds and micro pretty well. But the top players can adapt to different scenarios better. That is why I think we see a lot of 'upsets' in korean qualifiers. Because if the game players out as the 'regular' player predicted/wants, they can definitely win the game vs the top players. | ||
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rotta
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES49626 Posts
I see the lack of bisu(and best) has driven you to IM? | ||
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gingerfluffmuff
Austria4570 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:17 BLinD-RawR wrote: I see the lack of bisu(and best) has driven you to IM? That and they're not playing Fantasy at all. Well to be honest I'm on the edge of leaving IM too, I don't care too much for the roster they're sending out every week. | ||
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Frostlone
Australia75 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:13 ACrow wrote: They should just blindside him until it's his time to play, and don't tell him the score scratch that, they should just never tell him anything and take him along for unimportant "show matches" To be fair he did play in some ace matches last season and win plus for the IM coach to put him third shows that he has some confidence that HerO could potentially pull them out of a tight spot. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES49626 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:18 Dodgin wrote: That and they're not playing Fantasy at all. Well to be honest I'm on the edge of leaving IM too, I don't care too much for the roster they're sending out every week. you could always go with prime or Jin air. | ||
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Ammanas
Slovakia2166 Posts
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:18 Dodgin wrote: That and they're not playing Fantasy at all. Well to be honest I'm on the edge of leaving IM too, I don't care too much for the roster they're sending out every week. You're coming back home? Your Marine prince left though. | ||
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Daswollvieh
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Doublemint
Austria8374 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:18 gingerfluffmuff wrote: I am for "HerO is too beautiful to cry about a lost game". | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:19 BLinD-RawR wrote: you could always go with prime or Jin air. I was thinking about joining camp KT tbh, they're the only team that sends 2 Terrans frequently. Not sure yet though. Maybe CJ. | ||
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Heartland
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:19 Lorning wrote: You're coming back home? Your Marine prince left though. Worst month of my life | ||
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Pangpootata
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On January 14 2014 21:16 juvenal wrote: flash had excellent tvp at the end of wol though, raped Sun ez Flash was actually slumping in general near the end. His TvP dropped below 70%, and he got thrashed 0-3 in TvT by some SKT guy who is currently playing second fiddle to BravO. | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24578 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:20 Dodgin wrote: I was thinking about joining camp KT tbh, they're the only team that sends 2 Terrans frequently. Not sure yet though. Maybe CJ. You should do what Wax does and just bandwagon something relatively obscure. | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
He chokes in Bo3/Bo5 series only. He's gonna pull the 1-2, then, Squirtle will find his old GSL finals form back and get the 2-2. HerO will be fielded as the IM ace and cho..nono, win in a really impressive manner that changes the metagame again. ..one can believe? | ||
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Ketch
Netherlands7285 Posts
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
I know right :D | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:20 Heartland wrote: You should do what Wax does and just bandwagon something relatively obscure. I don't even know what Koreans Wax likes, I just know he likes Elfi. | ||
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
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Olli
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51450 Posts
Double reaper from reactor rax ;_; | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
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rotta
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Ketch
Netherlands7285 Posts
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Heartland
Sweden24578 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:21 Dodgin wrote: I don't even know what Koreans Wax likes, I just know he likes Elfi. How do you feel about Samsung? | ||
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
I'm so stealing that | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
They screwed Jangbi, fuck them. | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24578 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:24 DarkLordOlli wrote: Woooooooooow that sim city is so good I'm so stealing that How is your pracc going? | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51450 Posts
HAHAHA | ||
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Pangpootata
1838 Posts
Just be a hipster and cheer for RorO, Shine and Sniper. | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:21 Dodgin wrote: I don't even know what Koreans Wax likes, I just know he likes Elfi. gumigod | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
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Heartland
Sweden24578 Posts
Maybe MVP? They got two good Terrans and probably some hope if DRG gets his act together. | ||
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
It's going alright, I'm feeling best about PvZ :D | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:25 Pangpootata wrote: Just be a hipster and cheer for RorO, Shine and Sniper. INJUSTICE | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
love your girlfriend_gumigod? is that team dead yet btw I haven't heard about them in a few weeks | ||
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
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tar
Germany991 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51450 Posts
gj | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:25 Heartland wrote: Maybe MVP? They got two good Terrans and probably some hope if DRG gets his act together. Maybe. I do really appreciate Dream and Keen's taste in Cheese. | ||
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Pandemona
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AlternativeEgo
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Olli
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:27 AlternativeEgo wrote: LYGF signed Gumi? What | ||
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Calt
Finland1140 Posts
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goody153
44033 Posts
welp doesn't matter as long as TY and maru keeps massacring protosses everytime he meets them at proleague then i would be happy. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:27 AlternativeEgo wrote: LYGF signed Gumi? I thought I read that somewhere but maybe not | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Not that I know of. | ||
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NovaMB
Germany9534 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:26 Dodgin wrote: love your girlfriend_gumigod? is that team dead yet btw I haven't heard about them in a few weeks No idea, they still havent revealed Claufzubu as their sponsor, which is disappointing | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:27 DarkLordOlli wrote: Alright so with those 2 barracks there's going to be an SCV pull not like I mentioned this 2 pages ago. I kinda think that early third forces the allin | ||
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:28 boxerfred wrote: not like I mentioned this 2 pages ago. I kinda think that early third forces the allin And we're both wrong :D | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
I guess he didn't accept though | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
god works in mysterious ways | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51450 Posts
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:28 Dodgin wrote: I thought I read that somewhere but maybe not I've only seen Tassadar and Genius. Stop scaring people. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
goodnight everyone | ||
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Germany6583 Posts
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
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Heartland
Sweden24578 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:30 Squat wrote: Liquid Hero? Yah? | ||
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Netherlands6068 Posts
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
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Belgica34432 Posts
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ViperPL
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Caladan
Germany1238 Posts
Solid performance by Flash. GG, big win! | ||
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ETisME
12309 Posts
damn it damn | ||
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
Sad few days for an IM fan. TT | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51450 Posts
Poll: Recommend Flash vs HerO Good Game (13) Meh Game (8) Excellent Game (2) Bad Game (2) 25 total votes Your vote: Recommend Flash vs HerO (Vote): Excellent Game Poll: Recommend Action vs Squirtle Good Game (7) Meh Game (4) Excellent Game (2) Bad Game (2) 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend Action vs Squirtle (Vote): Excellent Game Poll: Recommend Ace Match Excellent Game (6) Meh Game (3) Good Game (2) Bad Game (2) 13 total votes Your vote: Recommend Ace Match (Vote): Excellent Game | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:31 Dark.Carnival wrote: id love tvp if all protoss played like this Like a bum? | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5587 Posts
 that was pretty easy for KT and Flash. | ||
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
Why is Wolf calling him that? | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
this is a sad day, i'm sad. pretty sure we're going to lose to jin air and samsung too. | ||
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juvenal
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shockaslim
United States1104 Posts
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TaShadan
Germany1961 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Two heroes in the league. Easier to differentiate them that way. | ||
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shadymmj
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goody153
44033 Posts
and yeah as long as their are no proxy oracle or blink stalker all-in. Flash will win :D | ||
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Ketch
Netherlands7285 Posts
Because he is playing as a mercenary for IM | ||
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Hungary5029 Posts
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France3338 Posts
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Canada39254 Posts
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Northern Ireland24157 Posts
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Ammanas
Slovakia2166 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:09 Ammanas wrote: ez 3-0 for KT :p yeah. couldn't go any other way. and to think there were people who were crucifying me for saying KT>IM before the season began... | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
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Zheryn
Sweden3653 Posts
Because it's his nickname? Or what? ... | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:31 juvenal wrote: Well hero sure choked. This and drg-maru yesterday - i feel robbed of two cool games. pretty much this | ||
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
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Serinox
Germany5224 Posts
Because he is on Liquid? | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:32 TaShadan wrote: rape.... now its official Kespa teams > former esf... except CJ maybe So you're telling me if you happened upon a day when Maru was playing you would say former esf > Kespa teams? | ||
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m0ck
4194 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:32 shadymmj wrote: well flash did it right but nothing spectacular. it's still really absurd though that you can fake all-in into fast 3rd into double overcharge to shut down a push for one minute. it's not strategy. Please, no more terran whine | ||
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PresenceSc2
Australia4032 Posts
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MangoMountain
Norway2044 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:32 shadymmj wrote: well flash did it right but nothing spectacular. it's still really absurd though that you can fake all-in into fast 3rd into double overcharge to shut down a push for one minute. it's not strategy. sounds a lot like strategy to me... | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:33 stuchiu wrote: So you're telling me if you happened upon a day when Maru was playing you would say former esf > Kespa teams? It's the teams dude, not the players. | ||
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XiaoJoyce-
China2908 Posts
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Jono7272
United Kingdom6330 Posts
He likes drinking. | ||
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Fjodorov
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
Dunno, I think he could've even held that with the stalkers from his main D: he played so well leading up to that | ||
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Destructicon
4713 Posts
Damn, I just had the sickest deja vu from last season's proleague when someone said nearly the same thing and then Flash proceed to kill HerO (who played for EG-TL). | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
ST is the last esf team though. | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
maru's success is clearly not a product of kespa | ||
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Caladan
Germany1238 Posts
<3 So big strength difference between top 4 and lower 4. | ||
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theMagus
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24157 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:32 TaShadan wrote: rape.... now its official Kespa teams > former esf... except CJ maybe Obnoxious pronouncements after an ESF team loses, sigh | ||
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mechengineer123
Ukraine711 Posts
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
Would only be op if you could get templars/colossi at the same time, which is impossible. | ||
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Caladan
Germany1238 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51450 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:31 Pandemona wrote: Poll: Recommend Flash vs HerO Good Game (13) Meh Game (8) Excellent Game (2) Bad Game (2) 25 total votes Your vote: Recommend Flash vs HerO (Vote): Excellent Game Poll: Recommend Action vs Squirtle Good Game (7) Meh Game (4) Excellent Game (2) Bad Game (2) 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend Action vs Squirtle (Vote): Excellent Game Poll: Recommend Ace Match Excellent Game (6) Meh Game (3) Good Game (2) Bad Game (2) 13 total votes Your vote: Recommend Ace Match (Vote): Excellent Game | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:32 Dodgin wrote: IM, MVP and Prime are just complete shit compared to the other 5 teams tbh. since Khan managed to step up yeah | ||
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goody153
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On January 14 2014 21:31 The_Templar wrote: see guys flash is still good at sc2 he never sucked. he was always championship caliber although he never won a b0 that is supposed to win him a championship or advanced a sticky group of death. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:34 opterown wrote: maru's success is clearly not a product of kespa he's been stronger in jin air than prime so far, isn't he like 6-0? jin air is obviously a better atmosphere for him, he's being paid well and he can focus completely on the game now. | ||
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PresenceSc2
Australia4032 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:33 DarkLordOlli wrote: That widow mine dropped forced a robo that HerO didn't want, I feel like that's what delayed the archives Dunno, I think he could've even held that with the stalkers from his main D: he played so well leading up to that He had 3 base though. He could definitely afford both | ||
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gingerfluffmuff
Austria4570 Posts
ST died when Maru and TheBomb left | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:33 DarkLordOlli wrote: That widow mine dropped forced a robo that HerO didn't want, I feel like that's what delayed the archives Dunno, I think he could've even held that with the stalkers from his main D: he played so well leading up to that I think he would have held as long as he got the forcefields he wanted. As it was, he held the first wave. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
he said former esf | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:35 Dodgin wrote: he's been stronger in jin air than prime so far, isn't he like 6-0? jin air is obviously a better atmosphere for him, he's being paid well and he can focus completely on the game now. He won an OSL on Prime. Can't say that about Jin Air. | ||
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juvenal
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On January 14 2014 21:35 gingerfluffmuff wrote: ST died when Maru and TheBomb left when maru left prime? Prime op i guess | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
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Arceus
Vietnam8332 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:33 stuchiu wrote: So you're telling me if you happened upon a day when Maru was playing you would say former esf > Kespa teams? It's Jinair's environment that makes him so good, no? KT got 2 defwins in the last week lol. This looks like normal Proleague with them taking 1st and T1/KHAN follow after | ||
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:35 vthree wrote: I think he would have held as long as he got the forcefields he wanted. As it was, he held the first wave. Nah, forcefields are irrelevant against this if the stalkers aren't there to punish pickups | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24157 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:33 DarkLordOlli wrote: That widow mine dropped forced a robo that HerO didn't want, I feel like that's what delayed the archives Dunno, I think he could've even held that with the stalkers from his main D: he played so well leading up to that He actually did, but people will still make out like the whole game was a train wreck | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:36 stuchiu wrote: He won an OSL on Prime. Can't say that about Jin Air. there haven't been any individual leagues since he joined, are you being serious? | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:35 Dodgin wrote: he's been stronger in jin air than prime so far, isn't he like 6-0? jin air is obviously a better atmosphere for him, he's being paid well and he can focus completely on the game now. you can't say that at all lol, maru could have easily got the same 6-0 with prime | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:36 boxerfred wrote: If we just look at his SC2 results without taking Flash's BW career into consideration, then we have to agree that he's one hell of a consistent proleague beast with a tendency to choke in important solo tournament matches. This seems like a bang on summary | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:35 Dodgin wrote: he's been stronger in jin air than prime so far, isn't he like 6-0? jin air is obviously a better atmosphere for him, he's being paid well and he can focus completely on the game now. He won a GSL when he was on Prime... | ||
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United States119 Posts
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Ammanas
Slovakia2166 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:36 stuchiu wrote: He won an OSL on Prime. Can't say that about Jin Air. THere was no Starleague while he is on JinAir, that is ridiculous argument lol | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:37 Dodgin wrote: there haven't been any individual leagues since he joined, are you being serious? and you are clearly out of your head too if you think you can judge that maru is better on jin air than prime | ||
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Pangpootata
1838 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:35 goody153 wrote: he never sucked. he was always championship caliber although he never won a b0 that is supposed to win him a championship or advanced a sticky group of death. Yes. And Flash's playstyle has always been extreme knowledge of build orders and timings + godsense, with great but not exceptional micro. He will take a while longer to learn a new game. But when he gets fully familiar, he will destroy everyone. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:37 opterown wrote: you can't say that at all lol, maru could have easily got the same 6-0 with prime does it not stand to reason that being in a situation where you're being paid well and don't have to worry about the stress of financial issues will yield better practice and results? | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:37 Dodgin wrote: there haven't been any individual leagues since he joined, are you being serious? Not particularly. I'm just being blunt and saying winning 6* games in PL doesn't mean he's stronger than he's ever been in Prime. | ||
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Jordan1831 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24157 Posts
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:37 tritonice wrote: Hero WAY too greedy in the third game. Do you think he forgot his archives? Tough loss, but congrats to Rolster. GGWP. Yeah. Imagine if he had archons and those blink stalkers at the third when Flash attacked. Flash gets completely fucked up and then HerO walks across the map and kills his third But not getting the archives is a big mistake that costs games D: | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:37 tritonice wrote: Hero WAY too greedy in the third game. Do you think he forgot his archives? Tough loss, but congrats to Rolster. GGWP. Somehow I gotta agree with a previous post: mine forced robo -> delayed templar. I'd love to know if that was Flash's gameplan/if he recognized that the Robo would force a delayed Templar archive? | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:38 Dodgin wrote: does it not stand to reason that being in a situation where you're being paid well and don't have to worry about the stress of financial issues will yield better practice and results? no, maru clearly doesn't give fucks see huk, he was payed better on EG and didn't have to worry about money... lol dodgin bad reasoning yo | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:36 DarkLordOlli wrote: Nah, forcefields are irrelevant against this if the stalkers aren't there to punish pickups Stalkers would have upped the DPS causing him to lose less of his zealots.... Flash didn't have enough medivacs to pick up everything anyways. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:39 opterown wrote: no, maru clearly doesn't give fucks see huk, he was payed better on EG and didn't have to worry about money... lol dodgin bad reasoning yo EG doesn't work anything like jin air, coach park said it himself. a western player becoming complacent is not nearly the same situation as this. | ||
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Sweden3653 Posts
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:39 Dodgin wrote: EG doesn't work anything like jin air, coach park said it himself. a western player becoming complacent is not nearly the same situation as this. can we just leave out foreign teams when talking about proleague players? can't compare that anyways | ||
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mechengineer123
Ukraine711 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:37 tritonice wrote: Hero WAY too greedy in the third game. Do you think he forgot his archives? Tough loss, but congrats to Rolster. GGWP. It wasn't too greedy, he just managed to forget his templar archives. It's mindboggling how these "top protoss" forget things like this over and over again. If he had a couple of ht or archons he woulda just won the game with this silly strat. | ||
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goody153
44033 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:39 Zheryn wrote: http://www.twitch.tv/artosis Meta inc! holy shit .. :D | ||
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Croatia736 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:38 stuchiu wrote: Not particularly. I'm just being blunt and saying winning 6* games in PL doesn't mean he's stronger than he's ever been in Prime. But PL is the most important tournament in the world, just ask the Power Rank guys. (wait, are you the power rank guy?) | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:38 Tchado wrote: This IM performance is a blasphemy against Nestea and MVP !!!!!!! burn the heretics that bring sacrilege to the name of IM ! crucify the coach ! I dunno, with the team losing LG sponsor and their 2 LoL teams not doing well, they must be under huge financial stress. That is probably why they couldn't keep First, Yoda, LosirA who were their mainstay in team leagues along with Yongwha. | ||
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Ammanas
Slovakia2166 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:42 Dodgin wrote: But PL is the most important tournament in the world, just ask the Power Rank guys. (wait, are you the power rank guy?) Well it kinda is when there is no other tournament going on, lol. I mean - TY didn't qualify for Code A. Would anyone argue with him deserving the spot on January power rank? | ||
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:41 mechengineer123 wrote: It wasn't too greedy, he just managed to forget his templar archives. It's mindboggling how these "top protoss" forget things like this over and over again. If he had a couple of ht or archons he woulda just won the game with this silly strat. Alright, now before we jump to silly conclusions. Misclicks happen to everybody. For all you know he clicked to make it with a probe and then misclicked the probe somewhere else, cancelling the process of building it It shouldn't happen but it does. And not just to protoss players. | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:41 esdf wrote: would've been perfect if zest lost, cause action would lose too and i'd get a shitload of fpl points from flash - ty - flash - kt combo :D same here, but because I would get 2 anti-team points instead of 5 and Squirtle would win. | ||
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jellyjello
Korea (South)664 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:41 mechengineer123 wrote: It wasn't too greedy, he just managed to forget his templar archives. It's mindboggling how these "top protoss" forget things like this over and over again. If he had a couple of ht or archons he woulda just won the game with this silly strat. He didn't forget the templar; he just couldn't tech up because of Flash knocking on his door in every step. With your reasoning, you can also say that Hero forgot to hit the upgrades but that's also not the case. Flash's map presence in that game was amazing, killing off every single hidden pylons that Hero can use to counter attack Flash. | ||
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painkilla
United States695 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:43 Ammanas wrote: Well it kinda is when there is no other tournament going on, lol. I mean - TY didn't qualify for Code A. Would anyone argue with him deserving the spot on January power rank? Ty is sick good, he just got protossed. He should be on every PR. | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:39 Dodgin wrote: EG doesn't work anything like jin air, coach park said it himself. a western player becoming complacent is not nearly the same situation as this. There are all kinds of strange players out there. Stardust did much better on a foreign team than a Kespa team. Violet did much better solo than he ever did on MVP. Soulkey has been playing fairly lackluster since he joined SKT. Innovation has played exactly the same when he went from Soul to teamless to Acer. Jaedong was terrible on T8 but over the course of 8 months became one of the best Zerg players on EG. Being on a good team is of course always a positive thing, but who is to say that was the reason Maru went 6-0 in PL as the main reason. No one disputes the fact that Kespa teams are specialized in PL and are by far the best in that tournament. But sometimes it's more complicated than that. Was Maru bad before he joined Jin Air? No, he got an OSL, three semi-finals in his last WCS event. But compare that to Soulkey. Both did well in WCS, both won tournaments last year, but Soulkey hasn't done nearly as well as you expect a former ACE player would, but you don't see people blaming his team for his mediocre results. | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:42 Dodgin wrote: But PL is the most important tournament in the world, just ask the Power Rank guys. (wait, are you the power rank guy?) Thats monk, he abandoned PL for hearthstone. ESGN > PL | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24157 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:46 jellyjello wrote: He didn't forget the templar; he just couldn't tech up because of Flash knocking on his door in every step. With your reasoning, you can also say that Hero forgot to hit the upgrades but that's also not the case. Flash's map presence in that game was amazing, killing off every single hidden pylons that Hero can use to counter attack Flash. He clearly forgot it. I think HerO cut upgrades that he might have planned due to Flash's pressure, no Protoss goes into that stage of the game without a plan for some splash. His Robo looked reactive so I don't think he was trying to sneak out Collosus tech when he could. | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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painkilla
United States695 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24157 Posts
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imre
France9263 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:55 Wombat_NI wrote: Yeah damn those ESF boys joining foreign teams for the cash, like Dear Innovation and Jaedong well those were almost teamless | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
TY so good. | ||
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goody153
44033 Posts
i'm already on the 105 spot .. keep it going KT at this rate i might FPL :D | ||
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painkilla
United States695 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:55 Wombat_NI wrote: Yeah damn those ESF boys joining foreign teams for the cash, like Dear Innovation and Jaedong I meant Yoda, First, Losira, Jjakji, Bomber etc but I appreciate your sarcasm. | ||
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Muffloe
Sweden6061 Posts
But KT deserves all respect of course, gg guise | ||
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XiaoJoyce-
China2908 Posts
But we should rate a player, based on performance, the player he is against. Not because he is not in individual tournament. | ||
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schaf
Germany1326 Posts
On January 14 2014 22:05 Muffloe wrote: Omg, what went wrong? By looking at sheer roster strength I was convinced that we'd take this, and then this happens. I am disheartened, because it feels like we clearly didn't play to our full potential But KT deserves all respect of course, gg guise Well I was also surprised about the game of Byul who showed a really strong form in the last games. But Zest just massacred him. After that it didn't look too good for IM, since Ruin was clearly the underdog against TY and Flash is Flash. Of course the last game wasn't a one-sided one but I still woudn't ever be betting on Flash losing a game. All respect to KT, you're right | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On January 14 2014 22:17 schaf wrote: Well I was also surprised about the game of Byul who showed a really strong form in the last games. But Zest just massacred him. After that it didn't look too good for IM, since Ruin was clearly the underdog against TY and Flash is Flash. Of course the last game wasn't a one-sided one but I still woudn't ever be betting on Flash losing a game. All respect to KT, you're right Especially in PL. That guy is a monster. | ||
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robertpires87
Northern Ireland87 Posts
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On January 14 2014 22:05 Muffloe wrote: Omg, what went wrong? By looking at sheer roster strength I was convinced that we'd take this, and then this happens. I am disheartened, because it feels like we clearly didn't play to our full potential But KT deserves all respect of course, gg guise If I'm looking at the matchups, all I can say is that game #2 and #3 were TvP, not that the Protoss players are better than their opponents. I mean, Ruin + HerO > TY + Flash? Please ;D Unless of course you think a Protoss should win vs a Terran. | ||
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Neemi
Netherlands656 Posts
On January 14 2014 22:40 robertpires87 wrote: For a guy who could not even make to Code A, Ty sure receives a lot of hype. That isn't the whole story though, he looks great when winning in PL and he didn't seem lucky winning against Code S players. But it does seem like preparation helps him, with the way he played against Soulkey. | ||
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Muffloe
Sweden6061 Posts
On January 14 2014 22:17 schaf wrote: Well I was also surprised about the game of Byul who showed a really strong form in the last games. But Zest just massacred him. After that it didn't look too good for IM, since Ruin was clearly the underdog against TY and Flash is Flash. Of course the last game wasn't a one-sided one but I still woudn't ever be betting on Flash losing a game. All respect to KT, you're right Well Ruin surely was the underdog, but I really expected HerO to do better vs Flash. But you can never now for sure with HerO, and he crumbled under the pressure of an important match. On the other hand, Squirtle hasn't played like a god either, but he is still quite solid and I could see him wreck Action For the next matches we should maybe consider to play Trap, as he is comfortable with these kind of things. We still have the PL factor, and the other Kespa teams have major experience advantage | ||
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Muffloe
Sweden6061 Posts
On January 14 2014 22:41 ZenithM wrote: If I'm looking at the matchups, all I can say is that game #2 and #3 were TvP, not that the Protoss players are better than their opponents. I mean, Ruin + HerO > TY + Flash? Please ;D Unless of course you think a Protoss should win vs a Terran. Those were the icky ones, and they proved to be worthy of doubt. But HerO beating was not too implausible in my calculations, and Ruin could perhaps surprise. But it went as it went, and we now have to look forward | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51450 Posts
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ETisME
12309 Posts
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
KT just outsmarted IM. It wasn't outplay thing, just outsmart. So, i guess, now we have telecommunication squads as top-2, JinAir is solid 3rd, and IM still have a shot to be 4th. Samsung-IM next week is basically do or die for IM. | ||
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schaf
Germany1326 Posts
On January 14 2014 23:04 Muffloe wrote: Well Ruin surely was the underdog, but I really expected HerO to do better vs Flash. But you can never now for sure with HerO, and he crumbled under the pressure of an important match. On the other hand, Squirtle hasn't played like a god either, but he is still quite solid and I could see him wreck Action For the next matches we should maybe consider to play Trap, as he is comfortable with these kind of things. We still have the PL factor, and the other Kespa teams have major experience advantage I wanted to see Action in... action, hehe. No, really I don't think he has played yet and to be fielded as the one player to close the series out if Zest fails (or even Flash) it takes some trust from the coach. Or trust in TY as the ace player | ||
Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
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usopsama
6502 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:32 TaShadan wrote: rape.... now its official Kespa teams > former esf... except CJ maybe It is good to see that IM is only capable of beating other former-esf teams. =) | ||
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Ctesias
4595 Posts
On January 14 2014 22:40 robertpires87 wrote: For a guy who could not even make to Code A, Ty sure receives a lot of hype. From his games in Proleague, the hype is definitely well-deserved. In the code A qualifiers, he lost to Yongwha, I think. Nothing shameful about that. Anyway. KT is climbing steadily to first place in Proleague, where they belong. | ||
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Lovedoll
Japan540 Posts
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On January 15 2014 04:59 Lovedoll wrote: Man, now I know what it must've felt like to be an EG-TL fan last year... that's not a prime tag you have there | ||
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Swisslink
2949 Posts
On January 14 2014 22:41 ZenithM wrote: If I'm looking at the matchups, all I can say is that game #2 and #3 were TvP, not that the Protoss players are better than their opponents. I mean, Ruin + HerO > TY + Flash? Please ;D Unless of course you think a Protoss should win vs a Terran. Yep, I think if Byul won, the chances wouldn't have been that bad. #1 was open, #2 + #3 were the IM players definitely the underdogs, #4 was clearly IM favored. And in an Ace MAtch everything's possible. But when Byul lost, it was quite obvious it's gonna be a 3:0. | ||
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Lovedoll
Japan540 Posts
On January 15 2014 05:29 The_Templar wrote: that's not a prime tag you have there Well I don't mean it so much as being at the bottom, but rather a comparison of fan expectations before and after the Proleague season started. EG-TL were the fan favorites/newcomers heading into Proleague last season. The same could be said for IM, especially for fans of the ESF teams joining this season. Between IM, MVP, and Prime, I'd say that IM is the new team with the most fans supporting them, especially if the 'Who will win 2014 Proleague?' poll is anything to go by. Of course, the amount of hype surrounding EG-TL and IM heading into the season are barely comparable, but both teams had deep and solid rosters expected to do well in Proleague format (though that was truer before First and Yoda left IM...), only for them to fall short even still. Prime, on the other hand, is a team with a bare bones roster getting stomped week after week. Not even EG-TL's first week in Proleague was THAT bad, lol. | ||
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:25 Morbidius wrote: Inb4 another terran 2-0 Called it. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On January 15 2014 01:59 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: It wasn't outplay thing, just outsmart. So, i guess, now we have telecommunication squads as top-2, JinAir is solid 3rd, and IM still have a shot to be 4th. It's an RTS, outplaying and outsmarting are the same thing. The only real surprise so far is CJ struggling. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On January 14 2014 22:40 robertpires87 wrote: For a guy who could not even make to Code A, Ty sure receives a lot of hype. Some players do better in Proleague than they do in individual leagues. | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On January 15 2014 08:41 Scarecrow wrote: It's an RTS, outplaying and outsmarting are the same thing. The only real surprise so far is CJ struggling. Mechanical outplaying in straight game and just outhinking are still different things for me. But whatever. CJ will recover in next rounds, they can freely lose this time, be, let's say, 3rd 3 times in a row and be in okay position for the rest of the competition. Especially now when they're fighting not with 7 teams and only with 5 basically, with SKT T1 as team who will probably make all 4 playoffs and Prime, who won't make even one. | ||
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imrusty269
United States1404 Posts
On January 15 2014 06:07 Lovedoll wrote: Well I don't mean it so much as being at the bottom, but rather a comparison of fan expectations before and after the Proleague season started. EG-TL were the fan favorites/newcomers heading into Proleague last season. The same could be said for IM, especially for fans of the ESF teams joining this season. Between IM, MVP, and Prime, I'd say that IM is the new team with the most fans supporting them, especially if the 'Who will win 2014 Proleague?' poll is anything to go by. Of course, the amount of hype surrounding EG-TL and IM heading into the season are barely comparable, but both teams had deep and solid rosters expected to do well in Proleague format (though that was truer before First and Yoda left IM...), only for them to fall short even still. Prime, on the other hand, is a team with a bare bones roster getting stomped week after week. Not even EG-TL's first week in Proleague was THAT bad, lol. IM focus has never been team league, seeing how they often send out weaker players for them to get exposure. | ||
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
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Hail-Fyre
South Africa27 Posts
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Vasoline73
United States7755 Posts
On January 14 2014 20:23 Pangpootata wrote: In Starcraft, whole rosters change every 3 years or so, nothing surprising. Even shorter if your team is rich, like SKT which has PartinG, Classic, Bravo and SK in today's lineup and none of them was around 1 year ago. Or KT which buys starleague champions like Luxury/ForGG/Mind and suck their powers to give to flash, thereby making them go into slumps. I support KT because if Violet had not died and Lux hadn't cheated they imo still would be on the team today. Mind transferred when he already (imo) was way over the hill skill wise. So... even though they used to be known as a talent buying team I look at home growns like Flash, Stats, and Zest and feel pretty good. We could have still have Violet too in a better world. Lux and Action weren't homegrown but one is still around years later and the other probably would have been short of match fixing. Oh well. RIP 815, Tempest (First?), ForGG, CH... probably forgetting people but that's all of them off the top of my head. Started watching PL a little too late for Zergbong but I do remember him losing an ace match on bluestorm. In before someone tells me Flash was from WeMade... I don't care... | ||
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