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[SPL] KT vs IM - Round 1 2014 - Page 29

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schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
January 14 2014 13:17 GMT
#561
On January 14 2014 22:05 Muffloe wrote:
Omg, what went wrong? By looking at sheer roster strength I was convinced that we'd take this, and then this happens. I am disheartened, because it feels like we clearly didn't play to our full potential
But KT deserves all respect of course, gg guise


Well I was also surprised about the game of Byul who showed a really strong form in the last games. But Zest just massacred him. After that it didn't look too good for IM, since Ruin was clearly the underdog against TY and Flash is Flash. Of course the last game wasn't a one-sided one but I still woudn't ever be betting on Flash losing a game.

All respect to KT, you're right
Axiom wins more than it loses. Most viewers don't. - <3 TB
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
January 14 2014 13:39 GMT
#562
On January 14 2014 22:17 schaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2014 22:05 Muffloe wrote:
Omg, what went wrong? By looking at sheer roster strength I was convinced that we'd take this, and then this happens. I am disheartened, because it feels like we clearly didn't play to our full potential
But KT deserves all respect of course, gg guise


Well I was also surprised about the game of Byul who showed a really strong form in the last games. But Zest just massacred him. After that it didn't look too good for IM, since Ruin was clearly the underdog against TY and Flash is Flash. Of course the last game wasn't a one-sided one but I still woudn't ever be betting on Flash losing a game.

All respect to KT, you're right


Especially in PL. That guy is a monster.
kiss kiss fall in love
robertpires87
Profile Joined October 2013
Northern Ireland87 Posts
January 14 2014 13:40 GMT
#563
For a guy who could not even make to Code A, Ty sure receives a lot of hype.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
January 14 2014 13:41 GMT
#564
On January 14 2014 22:05 Muffloe wrote:
Omg, what went wrong? By looking at sheer roster strength I was convinced that we'd take this, and then this happens. I am disheartened, because it feels like we clearly didn't play to our full potential
But KT deserves all respect of course, gg guise

If I'm looking at the matchups, all I can say is that game #2 and #3 were TvP, not that the Protoss players are better than their opponents. I mean, Ruin + HerO > TY + Flash? Please ;D
Unless of course you think a Protoss should win vs a Terran.
Neemi
Profile Joined August 2012
Netherlands657 Posts
January 14 2014 13:57 GMT
#565
On January 14 2014 22:40 robertpires87 wrote:
For a guy who could not even make to Code A, Ty sure receives a lot of hype.


That isn't the whole story though, he looks great when winning in PL and he didn't seem lucky winning against Code S players. But it does seem like preparation helps him, with the way he played against Soulkey.
Cute
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
January 14 2014 14:04 GMT
#566
On January 14 2014 22:17 schaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2014 22:05 Muffloe wrote:
Omg, what went wrong? By looking at sheer roster strength I was convinced that we'd take this, and then this happens. I am disheartened, because it feels like we clearly didn't play to our full potential
But KT deserves all respect of course, gg guise


Well I was also surprised about the game of Byul who showed a really strong form in the last games. But Zest just massacred him. After that it didn't look too good for IM, since Ruin was clearly the underdog against TY and Flash is Flash. Of course the last game wasn't a one-sided one but I still woudn't ever be betting on Flash losing a game.

All respect to KT, you're right

Well Ruin surely was the underdog, but I really expected HerO to do better vs Flash. But you can never now for sure with HerO, and he crumbled under the pressure of an important match. On the other hand, Squirtle hasn't played like a god either, but he is still quite solid and I could see him wreck Action

For the next matches we should maybe consider to play Trap, as he is comfortable with these kind of things. We still have the PL factor, and the other Kespa teams have major experience advantage
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
January 14 2014 14:08 GMT
#567
On January 14 2014 22:41 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2014 22:05 Muffloe wrote:
Omg, what went wrong? By looking at sheer roster strength I was convinced that we'd take this, and then this happens. I am disheartened, because it feels like we clearly didn't play to our full potential
But KT deserves all respect of course, gg guise

If I'm looking at the matchups, all I can say is that game #2 and #3 were TvP, not that the Protoss players are better than their opponents. I mean, Ruin + HerO > TY + Flash? Please ;D
Unless of course you think a Protoss should win vs a Terran.

Those were the icky ones, and they proved to be worthy of doubt. But HerO beating was not too implausible in my calculations, and Ruin could perhaps surprise. But it went as it went, and we now have to look forward
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 14 2014 14:13 GMT
#568
VODs added to OP
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12912 Posts
January 14 2014 14:25 GMT
#569
arrrr IM is breaking my heart again and again
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
January 14 2014 16:59 GMT
#570
Guess, IM fans were right when they said they don't believe.

KT just outsmarted IM.
It wasn't outplay thing, just outsmart. So, i guess, now we have telecommunication squads as top-2, JinAir is solid 3rd, and IM still have a shot to be 4th.

Samsung-IM next week is basically do or die for IM.
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schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
January 14 2014 17:48 GMT
#571
On January 14 2014 23:04 Muffloe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2014 22:17 schaf wrote:
On January 14 2014 22:05 Muffloe wrote:
Omg, what went wrong? By looking at sheer roster strength I was convinced that we'd take this, and then this happens. I am disheartened, because it feels like we clearly didn't play to our full potential
But KT deserves all respect of course, gg guise


Well I was also surprised about the game of Byul who showed a really strong form in the last games. But Zest just massacred him. After that it didn't look too good for IM, since Ruin was clearly the underdog against TY and Flash is Flash. Of course the last game wasn't a one-sided one but I still woudn't ever be betting on Flash losing a game.

All respect to KT, you're right

Well Ruin surely was the underdog, but I really expected HerO to do better vs Flash. But you can never now for sure with HerO, and he crumbled under the pressure of an important match. On the other hand, Squirtle hasn't played like a god either, but he is still quite solid and I could see him wreck Action

For the next matches we should maybe consider to play Trap, as he is comfortable with these kind of things. We still have the PL factor, and the other Kespa teams have major experience advantage


I wanted to see Action in... action, hehe.
No, really I don't think he has played yet and to be fielded as the one player to close the series out if Zest fails (or even Flash) it takes some trust from the coach. Or trust in TY as the ace player
Axiom wins more than it loses. Most viewers don't. - <3 TB
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
January 14 2014 18:38 GMT
#572
no Action
KTY
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 14 2014 19:26 GMT
#573
On January 14 2014 21:32 TaShadan wrote:
rape.... now its official Kespa teams > former esf... except CJ maybe


It is good to see that IM is only capable of beating other former-esf teams. =)
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
January 14 2014 19:33 GMT
#574
On January 14 2014 22:40 robertpires87 wrote:
For a guy who could not even make to Code A, Ty sure receives a lot of hype.

From his games in Proleague, the hype is definitely well-deserved. In the code A qualifiers, he lost to Yongwha, I think. Nothing shameful about that.

Anyway. KT is climbing steadily to first place in Proleague, where they belong.
Flash | Mvp
Lovedoll
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan540 Posts
January 14 2014 19:59 GMT
#575
Man, now I know what it must've felt like to be an EG-TL fan last year...
Spread your eggs until they crack!
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
January 14 2014 20:29 GMT
#576
On January 15 2014 04:59 Lovedoll wrote:
Man, now I know what it must've felt like to be an EG-TL fan last year...

that's not a prime tag you have there
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2958 Posts
January 14 2014 20:40 GMT
#577
On January 14 2014 22:41 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2014 22:05 Muffloe wrote:
Omg, what went wrong? By looking at sheer roster strength I was convinced that we'd take this, and then this happens. I am disheartened, because it feels like we clearly didn't play to our full potential
But KT deserves all respect of course, gg guise

If I'm looking at the matchups, all I can say is that game #2 and #3 were TvP, not that the Protoss players are better than their opponents. I mean, Ruin + HerO > TY + Flash? Please ;D
Unless of course you think a Protoss should win vs a Terran.


Yep, I think if Byul won, the chances wouldn't have been that bad. #1 was open, #2 + #3 were the IM players definitely the underdogs, #4 was clearly IM favored. And in an Ace MAtch everything's possible. But when Byul lost, it was quite obvious it's gonna be a 3:0.
Lovedoll
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan540 Posts
January 14 2014 21:07 GMT
#578
On January 15 2014 05:29 The_Templar wrote:
that's not a prime tag you have there


Well I don't mean it so much as being at the bottom, but rather a comparison of fan expectations before and after the Proleague season started.

EG-TL were the fan favorites/newcomers heading into Proleague last season. The same could be said for IM, especially for fans of the ESF teams joining this season. Between IM, MVP, and Prime, I'd say that IM is the new team with the most fans supporting them, especially if the 'Who will win 2014 Proleague?' poll is anything to go by. Of course, the amount of hype surrounding EG-TL and IM heading into the season are barely comparable, but both teams had deep and solid rosters expected to do well in Proleague format (though that was truer before First and Yoda left IM...), only for them to fall short even still.

Prime, on the other hand, is a team with a bare bones roster getting stomped week after week. Not even EG-TL's first week in Proleague was THAT bad, lol.
Spread your eggs until they crack!
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
January 14 2014 21:58 GMT
#579
On January 14 2014 20:25 Morbidius wrote:
Inb4 another terran 2-0

Called it.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
January 14 2014 23:41 GMT
#580
On January 15 2014 01:59 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
It wasn't outplay thing, just outsmart. So, i guess, now we have telecommunication squads as top-2, JinAir is solid 3rd, and IM still have a shot to be 4th.

It's an RTS, outplaying and outsmarting are the same thing. The only real surprise so far is CJ struggling.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
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