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Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
January 18 2014 14:51 GMT
#141
On January 18 2014 23:49 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2014 23:45 Undead1993 wrote:
On January 18 2014 23:43 Qwerty85 wrote:
This game was probably the definition of getting protossed.

no it wasnt. the definition of getting protossed is flash vs sora. this was just very well played by elfi holding on against drops multitasking and splitting his army pretty well, whereas jjkaji kept throwing away small amount of units and in the end was for some reason not upgrading and overextending. elfi is officially god


Not really. Flash was playing from behind that whole game since his proxy factory play failed.

I am sure that if we looked at resources lost, they were probably even or Jjakji ahead. And even if Jjakji was slightly behind he was still ahead in economy. First he had a faster third and then a faster 4th base and was never harrased at all until that deciding fight.

I am not saying that Elfi played bad but by "getting protossed" I mean when terran does everything right for first 20-25 minutes of the game, even gets vikings, ghosts (right counters), slows down protoss economy etc. but still loses that 1 fight and everything snowballs from there, no chance of comeback at all. He also wasn't that behind on upgrades since it was 2-2 vs. 3-3. You can't really beat protoss to 3-3

I feel like protoss can always come back as long as you get maxed and have chance to drop 2-3 good storms.

Well maybe our definitions of getting protossed are bad.

for me to get protossed the protoss needs to have collossi storm and tempests which elfi didn't have but sora did
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-18 14:51:37
January 18 2014 14:51 GMT
#142
(P)Harstem 2-0 (P)VERDI

Verdi : "bg bg bg"

Harstem qualifies for tomorrow
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
January 18 2014 14:51 GMT
#143
How many marines are needed to defend vs 2 oracles, assuming target fire?
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Niko_Thien
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany2671 Posts
January 18 2014 14:51 GMT
#144
On January 18 2014 23:51 NovaMB wrote:
(P)Harstem 2-0 (P)VERDI

Verdi : "bg bg bg"

Verdi always so mannered =)
@Niko_Thien on twitter!
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
January 18 2014 14:51 GMT
#145
On January 18 2014 23:51 DJHelium wrote:
How many marines are needed to defend vs 2 oracles, assuming target fire?

iirc its 8 Marines
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
January 18 2014 14:52 GMT
#146
On January 18 2014 23:50 Heartland wrote:
Isn't qxc's definition of getting Protossed is when you lose all your vikings and ghosts in a fight vs Protoss and thus remain without a chance afterwards?


The way I look at it is when terran slowly builds up advantage during the game and it all goes down the drain in 1 fight without the chance to come back.
Reactivate
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands26 Posts
January 18 2014 14:53 GMT
#147
On January 18 2014 23:51 Niko_Thien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2014 23:51 NovaMB wrote:
(P)Harstem 2-0 (P)VERDI

Verdi : "bg bg bg"

Verdi always so mannered =)


AH cool i thougt it was the 1st game, but all is nice
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
January 18 2014 14:53 GMT
#148
On January 18 2014 23:50 Heartland wrote:
Isn't qxc's definition of getting Protossed is when you lose all your vikings and ghosts in a fight vs Protoss and thus remain without a chance afterwards?


Think it's just losing the big fight and not being able to re-build army quick enough
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
January 18 2014 14:53 GMT
#149
On January 18 2014 23:52 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2014 23:50 Heartland wrote:
Isn't qxc's definition of getting Protossed is when you lose all your vikings and ghosts in a fight vs Protoss and thus remain without a chance afterwards?


The way I look at it is when terran slowly builds up advantage during the game and it all goes down the drain in 1 fight without the chance to come back.


Blizzard, Kespa, ESF and all the WCS-subsidiaries should write a 38 page dictionary defining every one of these words and if a player or caster is found to have misused one they get fined.
Ana_
Profile Joined May 2012
Finland453 Posts
January 18 2014 14:54 GMT
#150
God giving false hope to jjiakji
Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me.
messioso
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark635 Posts
January 18 2014 14:54 GMT
#151
Last game on main stream will be (Z)Kane or (T)Kas vs (Z)Tefel
Former ESL League Operations. I ran IEM/WCS for like 3 years or something. I did map vetos on a tablet. That guy.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
January 18 2014 14:54 GMT
#152
Heavy Rain? Blink all-in
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
January 18 2014 14:54 GMT
#153
On January 18 2014 23:51 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2014 23:51 DJHelium wrote:
How many marines are needed to defend vs 2 oracles, assuming target fire?

iirc its 8 Marines


Ok, thanks. Will have to try it out sometime.

I usually just leave 6 in main and then start rallying to natural, but kinda sucks if 2 oracles come :D
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Ana_
Profile Joined May 2012
Finland453 Posts
January 18 2014 14:54 GMT
#154
God will blink-all-in his way to victory.
Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
January 18 2014 14:56 GMT
#155
On January 18 2014 23:54 Ana_ wrote:
God will blink-all-in his way to victory.


It is a message to his scions

In hoc signo vinces
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
January 18 2014 14:56 GMT
#156
True story, in the Legacy of the Void they will reveal that the Tal'darim sect actually worship elfi
burzumbu
Profile Joined October 2013
Croatia68 Posts
January 18 2014 14:57 GMT
#157
apollo looks like he got so drunk last night and slept for 3-4 hours
*i am mine*
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
January 18 2014 14:57 GMT
#158
On January 18 2014 23:53 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2014 23:52 Qwerty85 wrote:
On January 18 2014 23:50 Heartland wrote:
Isn't qxc's definition of getting Protossed is when you lose all your vikings and ghosts in a fight vs Protoss and thus remain without a chance afterwards?


The way I look at it is when terran slowly builds up advantage during the game and it all goes down the drain in 1 fight without the chance to come back.


Blizzard, Kespa, ESF and all the WCS-subsidiaries should write a 38 page dictionary defining every one of these words and if a player or caster is found to have misused one they get fined.


Look at it this way:
Dear vs. Maru on Frost - not an example of getting protossed since Dear never took any real damage and Maru was never ahead in tech or economy

Elfi vs. Jjakji on Frost - example of getting protossed since Jjakji was trading well, he denied Elfi's third, he had higher tech units and wasn't stuck on bio for the whole game but then he lost that fight and it was gg
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
January 18 2014 14:58 GMT
#159
On January 18 2014 23:57 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2014 23:53 Heartland wrote:
On January 18 2014 23:52 Qwerty85 wrote:
On January 18 2014 23:50 Heartland wrote:
Isn't qxc's definition of getting Protossed is when you lose all your vikings and ghosts in a fight vs Protoss and thus remain without a chance afterwards?


The way I look at it is when terran slowly builds up advantage during the game and it all goes down the drain in 1 fight without the chance to come back.


Blizzard, Kespa, ESF and all the WCS-subsidiaries should write a 38 page dictionary defining every one of these words and if a player or caster is found to have misused one they get fined.


Look at it this way:
Dear vs. Maru on Frost - not an example of getting protossed since Dear never took any real damage and Maru was never ahead in tech or economy

Elfi vs. Jjakji on Frost - example of getting protossed since Jjakji was trading well, he denied Elfi's third, he had higher tech units and wasn't stuck on bio for the whole game but then he lost that fight and it was gg


I dunno. We can use it like that, sure. But I think it was meant the way I related it to what qxc said originally. But language changes, etc
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-18 14:59:50
January 18 2014 14:59 GMT
#160
On January 18 2014 23:57 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2014 23:53 Heartland wrote:
On January 18 2014 23:52 Qwerty85 wrote:
On January 18 2014 23:50 Heartland wrote:
Isn't qxc's definition of getting Protossed is when you lose all your vikings and ghosts in a fight vs Protoss and thus remain without a chance afterwards?


The way I look at it is when terran slowly builds up advantage during the game and it all goes down the drain in 1 fight without the chance to come back.


Blizzard, Kespa, ESF and all the WCS-subsidiaries should write a 38 page dictionary defining every one of these words and if a player or caster is found to have misused one they get fined.


Look at it this way:
Dear vs. Maru on Frost - not an example of getting protossed since Dear never took any real damage and Maru was never ahead in tech or economy

Elfi vs. Jjakji on Frost - example of getting protossed since Jjakji was trading well, he denied Elfi's third, he had higher tech units and wasn't stuck on bio for the whole game but then he lost that fight and it was gg

And lost every fight in game from the beginning. <- Jjakji
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
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