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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36919 Posts
I'm going to take a shot at explaining the whole  RorO winning "Best Zerg" award.
Now bear in mind, I'm not a GOMTV/GOMeXP official or anything so what I say might be 100% incorrect. But I think I have enough evidence to support my statement.
So let's look at the 2012 GSL Tour Awards: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_GSL_Blizzard_Cup#2012_GSL_Tour_Awards
As you can see, Sniper won this award in 2012. He won this award because he was the last GSL winner for 2012 in that ZvZ finals over HyuN.
In 2011, http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_GSL_Blizzard_Cup#2011_GSL_Tour_Awards NesTea won this award because he was the ONLY Zerg player to have won a GSL that year.
So now let's look at 2013: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/GOMTV_Global_StarCraft_II_League#GSL_Events
If you look at the very first tournament for 2013, that tournament was still called "GSL." Therefore, RorO was rightfully a "GSL" winner.
However, Soulkey's victory was considered a "WCS Korea" victory, so I don't think GSL felt that Soulkey's victory was rightfully a GSL victory. Therefore, I think GOM gave RorO this award by default, because the only legitimate "GSL" was done in the beginning of 2013.
If you think about it, it makes sense. RorO didn't recieve ANY WCS points for his 1st place finish in the 2013 GSL Season 1.
So yeah, that's my take on the situation.
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On December 08 2013 19:58 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2013 19:57 sharkie wrote:On December 08 2013 19:56 Zealously wrote:On December 08 2013 19:54 absinthfee wrote:On December 08 2013 19:52 Keeemy wrote:Well the last 2 maps are pretty good for Soulkey. Let's goooo On December 08 2013 19:52 Malinor wrote:I just started to think that Soulkey is the best Zerg in the world, and then that game happened  Well, he may be anyway. Pretty close with Life and Jaedong though. ... Soulkey is the best. End of discussion. You could argue with jaedong. Life is definitely nowhere close in skill. I'm not sure how you say that you could argue Jaedong and then dismiss Life in pretty much the same breath Life got 3-0ed by Scarlett. One match doesn't mean a whole lot.
To be frank, Life has looked quite underwhelming this year compared to the standard he set for himself last year. I'd say he is definitely a top zerg but I'd rank him 3rd at best this year.
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On December 08 2013 19:56 juvenal wrote:
Tastosis overhyped it quite a bit, the worker counts were almost equal after the initial attack, zerg had 1(?) queen and no tech besides speed. Anyway Sun was brilliant.
That's true, but I feel that delaying and then forcing the cancel on Rain's third had really given a strong advantage to Soulkey.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On December 08 2013 19:57 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2013 19:56 Zealously wrote:On December 08 2013 19:54 absinthfee wrote:On December 08 2013 19:52 Keeemy wrote:Well the last 2 maps are pretty good for Soulkey. Let's goooo On December 08 2013 19:52 Malinor wrote:I just started to think that Soulkey is the best Zerg in the world, and then that game happened Well, he may be anyway. Pretty close with Life and Jaedong though. ... Soulkey is the best. End of discussion. You could argue with jaedong. Life is definitely nowhere close in skill. I'm not sure how you say that you could argue Jaedong and then dismiss Life in pretty much the same breath Life got 3-0ed by Scarlett.
Among all the stupid arguments people bring out to discredit various players, this one is probably the worst.
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On December 08 2013 19:56 juvenal wrote:
Tastosis overhyped it quite a bit, the worker counts were almost equal after the initial attack, zerg had 1(?) queen and no tech besides speed. Anyway Sun was brilliant.
Yeah an immortal bust would have killed sk
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
seriously roro won the award because soulkey won the best player of 2013 award and they didn't want to give him too much stuff to bring home, ez
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On December 08 2013 19:59 Seeker wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I'm going to take a shot at explaining the whole RorO winning "Best Zerg" award. Now bear in mind, I'm not a GOMTV/GOMeXP official or anything so what I say might be 100% incorrect. But I think I have enough evidence to support my statement. So let's look at the 2012 GSL Tour Awards: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_GSL_Blizzard_Cup#2012_GSL_Tour_AwardsAs you can see, Sniper won this award in 2012. He won this award because he was the last GSL winner for 2012 in that ZvZ finals over HyuN. In 2011, http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_GSL_Blizzard_Cup#2011_GSL_Tour_Awards NesTea won this award because he was the ONLY Zerg player to have won a GSL that year. So now let's look at 2013: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/GOMTV_Global_StarCraft_II_League#GSL_EventsIf you look at the very tournament for 2013, that tournament was still called "GSL." Therefore, RorO was rightfully a "GSL" winner. However, Soulkey's victory was considered a "WCS Korea" victory, so I don't think GSL felt that Soulkey's victory was rightfully a GSL victory. Therefore, I think GOM gave RorO this award by default, because the only legitimate "GSL" was done in beginning of 2013. If you think about it, it makes sense. RorO didn't recieve ANY WCS points for his 1st place finish in the 2013 GSL Season 1. So yeah, that's my take on the situation.
that would be an incredible dumb decision. cause i am pretty sure that they used wcs for the toss/terran winners
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On December 08 2013 20:01 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2013 19:57 sharkie wrote:On December 08 2013 19:56 Zealously wrote:On December 08 2013 19:54 absinthfee wrote:On December 08 2013 19:52 Keeemy wrote:Well the last 2 maps are pretty good for Soulkey. Let's goooo On December 08 2013 19:52 Malinor wrote:I just started to think that Soulkey is the best Zerg in the world, and then that game happened Well, he may be anyway. Pretty close with Life and Jaedong though. ... Soulkey is the best. End of discussion. You could argue with jaedong. Life is definitely nowhere close in skill. I'm not sure how you say that you could argue Jaedong and then dismiss Life in pretty much the same breath Life got 3-0ed by Scarlett. Among all the stupid arguments people bring out to discredit various players, this one is probably the worst.
snute 2-1 life suck it
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On December 08 2013 19:59 Seeker wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I'm going to take a shot at explaining the whole RorO winning "Best Zerg" award. Now bear in mind, I'm not a GOMTV/GOMeXP official or anything so what I say might be 100% incorrect. But I think I have enough evidence to support my statement. So let's look at the 2012 GSL Tour Awards: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_GSL_Blizzard_Cup#2012_GSL_Tour_AwardsAs you can see, Sniper won this award in 2012. He won this award because he was the last GSL winner for 2012 in that ZvZ finals over HyuN. In 2011, http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_GSL_Blizzard_Cup#2011_GSL_Tour_Awards NesTea won this award because he was the ONLY Zerg player to have won a GSL that year. So now let's look at 2013: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/GOMTV_Global_StarCraft_II_League#GSL_EventsIf you look at the very tournament for 2013, that tournament was still called "GSL." Therefore, RorO was rightfully a "GSL" winner. However, Soulkey's victory was considered a "WCS Korea" victory, so I don't think GSL felt that Soulkey's victory was rightfully a GSL victory. Therefore, I think GOM gave RorO this award by default, because the only legitimate "GSL" was done in beginning of 2013. If you think about it, it makes sense. RorO didn't recieve ANY WCS points for his 1st place finish in the 2013 GSL Season 1. So yeah, that's my take on the situation.
So, basically semantics led to roro getting the award? Sounds like something GOM would actually do, so I guess you could be right.
Noone should take this too seriously, we all know how to make up our own mind
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On December 08 2013 20:01 opterown wrote:
seriously roro won the award because soulkey won the best player of 2013 award and they didn't want to give him too much stuff to bring home, ez
And that is pretty bullshit imo
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United States33079 Posts
which protoss all-in will we see today
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On December 08 2013 19:57 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2013 19:56 Zealously wrote:On December 08 2013 19:54 absinthfee wrote:On December 08 2013 19:52 Keeemy wrote:Well the last 2 maps are pretty good for Soulkey. Let's goooo On December 08 2013 19:52 Malinor wrote:I just started to think that Soulkey is the best Zerg in the world, and then that game happened Well, he may be anyway. Pretty close with Life and Jaedong though. ... Soulkey is the best. End of discussion. You could argue with jaedong. Life is definitely nowhere close in skill. I'm not sure how you say that you could argue Jaedong and then dismiss Life in pretty much the same breath Life got 3-0ed by Scarlett.
So? Scarlett is really good, while Life not so much in zvz. Regardless one series doesn't mean that much. When it comes to talent no zerg has as much as life.
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On December 08 2013 20:02 Waxangel wrote:
which protoss all-in will we see today
Choochoo because SKT
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On December 08 2013 20:02 Waxangel wrote:
which protoss all-in will we see today
'they are all so great, doesn't really matter now does it!
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On December 08 2013 20:01 opterown wrote:
seriously roro won the award because soulkey won the best player of 2013 award and they didn't want to give him too much stuff to bring home, ez
yeah i think they wanted to split up the awards some more. arguably, Symbol would have deserved it more than Roro, but people that obsess over championships would disagree so i could see it going either way.
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On December 08 2013 20:00 Destructicon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2013 19:58 DJHelium wrote:On December 08 2013 19:57 sharkie wrote:On December 08 2013 19:56 Zealously wrote:On December 08 2013 19:54 absinthfee wrote:On December 08 2013 19:52 Keeemy wrote:Well the last 2 maps are pretty good for Soulkey. Let's goooo On December 08 2013 19:52 Malinor wrote:I just started to think that Soulkey is the best Zerg in the world, and then that game happened Well, he may be anyway. Pretty close with Life and Jaedong though. ... Soulkey is the best. End of discussion. You could argue with jaedong. Life is definitely nowhere close in skill. I'm not sure how you say that you could argue Jaedong and then dismiss Life in pretty much the same breath Life got 3-0ed by Scarlett. One match doesn't mean a whole lot. To be frank, Life has looked quite underwhelming this year compared to the standard he set for himself last year. I'd say he is definitely a top zerg but I'd rank him 3rd at best this year.
It's obviously very subjective. I rate Life a bit higher than Jaedong, but I might be wrong and thinking otherwise obviously is fine. But saying Life is "nowhere close" I just can't agree with!
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Oh snap, I haven't heard Daughters of Darkness in ages.
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On December 08 2013 20:01 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2013 20:01 Zealously wrote:On December 08 2013 19:57 sharkie wrote:On December 08 2013 19:56 Zealously wrote:On December 08 2013 19:54 absinthfee wrote:On December 08 2013 19:52 Keeemy wrote:Well the last 2 maps are pretty good for Soulkey. Let's goooo On December 08 2013 19:52 Malinor wrote:I just started to think that Soulkey is the best Zerg in the world, and then that game happened Well, he may be anyway. Pretty close with Life and Jaedong though. ... Soulkey is the best. End of discussion. You could argue with jaedong. Life is definitely nowhere close in skill. I'm not sure how you say that you could argue Jaedong and then dismiss Life in pretty much the same breath Life got 3-0ed by Scarlett. Among all the stupid arguments people bring out to discredit various players, this one is probably the worst. snute 2-1 life suck it
Goody 2-0 MMA obv best player EU.
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On December 08 2013 20:02 Waxangel wrote:
which protoss all-in will we see today
PartinG has taught him how to conduct a train
CHOOOOO CHOOOOO
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On December 08 2013 20:03 Destructicon wrote:
Oh snap, I haven't heard Daughters of Darkness in ages.
yeah , brings me back to the days of MVP :'(
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