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On November 30 2013 09:45 ArTiFaKs wrote:I'm pretty excited for tomorrow's games, should be much fun! Patience - sOs and Polt - HerO to start things off is just tastey, and NaNiwa advancing makes it that much more interesting. Not suprised TaeJa ended up being the first to the finals, guy is just super consistent in these foreign tournaments, and Life has been on a tear lately. But i'm hoping Life doesn't make it to finals just because a PvZ final isn't my favorite bo7 to watch.. See you guys tomorrow! 
Well, that cant happen cause TaeJa plays terran ^^
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On November 30 2013 09:45 ArTiFaKs wrote:I'm pretty excited for tomorrow's games, should be much fun! Patience - sOs and Polt - HerO to start things off is just tastey, and NaNiwa advancing makes it that much more interesting. Not suprised TaeJa ended up being the first to the finals, guy is just super consistent in these foreign tournaments, and Life has been on a tear lately. But i'm hoping Life doesn't make it to finals just because a PvZ final isn't my favorite bo7 to watch.. See you guys tomorrow!
The finals will be TvZ if Life makes it though :/
EDIT: SICK SNIPE BROSKI
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On November 30 2013 09:40 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2013 09:38 Xoronius wrote:On November 30 2013 09:36 Darkhoarse wrote:On November 30 2013 09:35 Strela wrote:
Lol everytime a foreigner beats a korean the korean is suddenly a B player according to some people. Well conversely every time a foreigner beats a Korean that foreigner is now the most amazing thing on the face of the Earth. I did´nt see anyone claim, that he would be the best protoss in the world or smth (which would also be wrong) People are just happy. Why would you try to stop them being happy? Occasionally fanboys (Nani and Scarlett fans in particulary) will go with the hyperbole like that. That just bothers me a little bit. Also Naniwa himself. But it's beside the point. I will endeavor to let people be happy.
Naniwa himself mostly admits, when players are better than him. He said, that sOs is his inspiration and the reason, why he plays, how he plays now. He also said, that he was very afraid of Soulkey (for a reason) in front of Blizzcon and said during MLG, that he expected to lose vs Jaedong, Dear and Polt, after he won against the first 2. I found his opponent analysis very reasonable until now (except, when he loses to players, he does´nt like that much, I very much disagree with the hypothesis , that Tefel is the worst player in the world).
But yeah, ocasionally fanboys can be a pain in the ass regarding hype, espicially the fanboys of top foreigners or Flash.
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On November 30 2013 09:50 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2013 09:40 Darkhoarse wrote:On November 30 2013 09:38 Xoronius wrote:On November 30 2013 09:36 Darkhoarse wrote:On November 30 2013 09:35 Strela wrote:
Lol everytime a foreigner beats a korean the korean is suddenly a B player according to some people. Well conversely every time a foreigner beats a Korean that foreigner is now the most amazing thing on the face of the Earth. I did´nt see anyone claim, that he would be the best protoss in the world or smth (which would also be wrong) People are just happy. Why would you try to stop them being happy? Occasionally fanboys (Nani and Scarlett fans in particulary) will go with the hyperbole like that. That just bothers me a little bit. Also Naniwa himself. But it's beside the point. I will endeavor to let people be happy. Naniwa himself mostly admits, when players are better than him. He said, that sOs is his inspiration and the reason, why he plays, how he plays now. He also said, that he was very afraid of Soulkey (for a reason) in front of Blizzcon and said during MLG, that he expected to lose vs Jaedong, Dear and Polt, after he won against the first 2. I found his opponent analysis very reasonable until now (except, when he loses to players, he does´nt like that much, I very much disagree with the hypothesis , that Tefel is the worst player in the world). But yeah, ocasionally fanboys can be a pain in the ass regarding hype, espicially the fanboys of top foreigners or Flash.
He generally shows a ton of respect for the great players. You definitely have a point. He just has had moments with other foreigners or calling Nestea an idiot that makes it seem like he isn't too respectful.
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On November 30 2013 09:44 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2013 09:42 Fjodorov wrote:
pure coincidence that naniwa keeps placing high amongst code s koreans and beating them. He somehow always catches them when they are out of form. Sometimes his opponent, who rarely does make big mistakes, throws games and is overconfident resulting in free wins. He is last foreigner, again, on homesoil but I cant accept any hype around this because he is lucky and has bad attitude on twitter sometimes. Yeah, it's like rocks happening to fall downwards. They could as well fall upwards.
Hahaha, you make my day
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On November 30 2013 09:53 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2013 09:50 Xoronius wrote:On November 30 2013 09:40 Darkhoarse wrote:On November 30 2013 09:38 Xoronius wrote:On November 30 2013 09:36 Darkhoarse wrote:On November 30 2013 09:35 Strela wrote:
Lol everytime a foreigner beats a korean the korean is suddenly a B player according to some people. Well conversely every time a foreigner beats a Korean that foreigner is now the most amazing thing on the face of the Earth. I did´nt see anyone claim, that he would be the best protoss in the world or smth (which would also be wrong) People are just happy. Why would you try to stop them being happy? Occasionally fanboys (Nani and Scarlett fans in particulary) will go with the hyperbole like that. That just bothers me a little bit. Also Naniwa himself. But it's beside the point. I will endeavor to let people be happy. Naniwa himself mostly admits, when players are better than him. He said, that sOs is his inspiration and the reason, why he plays, how he plays now. He also said, that he was very afraid of Soulkey (for a reason) in front of Blizzcon and said during MLG, that he expected to lose vs Jaedong, Dear and Polt, after he won against the first 2. I found his opponent analysis very reasonable until now (except, when he loses to players, he does´nt like that much, I very much disagree with the hypothesis , that Tefel is the worst player in the world). But yeah, ocasionally fanboys can be a pain in the ass regarding hype, espicially the fanboys of top foreigners or Flash. He generally shows a ton of respect for the great players. You definitely have a point. He just has had moments with other foreigners or calling Nestea an idiot that makes it seem like he isn't too respectful.
I think the Nestea-incident was a huge misunderstanding from all sides, definitly bad wording from Naniwa, but he corrected himself a day after that already. You´re right about ocasional disrespect towards other foreigners, but that does´nt have much to do with the original point of discussion, which would be him claiming to be better than he is.
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On November 30 2013 09:57 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2013 09:53 Darkhoarse wrote:On November 30 2013 09:50 Xoronius wrote:On November 30 2013 09:40 Darkhoarse wrote:On November 30 2013 09:38 Xoronius wrote:On November 30 2013 09:36 Darkhoarse wrote:On November 30 2013 09:35 Strela wrote:
Lol everytime a foreigner beats a korean the korean is suddenly a B player according to some people. Well conversely every time a foreigner beats a Korean that foreigner is now the most amazing thing on the face of the Earth. I did´nt see anyone claim, that he would be the best protoss in the world or smth (which would also be wrong) People are just happy. Why would you try to stop them being happy? Occasionally fanboys (Nani and Scarlett fans in particulary) will go with the hyperbole like that. That just bothers me a little bit. Also Naniwa himself. But it's beside the point. I will endeavor to let people be happy. Naniwa himself mostly admits, when players are better than him. He said, that sOs is his inspiration and the reason, why he plays, how he plays now. He also said, that he was very afraid of Soulkey (for a reason) in front of Blizzcon and said during MLG, that he expected to lose vs Jaedong, Dear and Polt, after he won against the first 2. I found his opponent analysis very reasonable until now (except, when he loses to players, he does´nt like that much, I very much disagree with the hypothesis , that Tefel is the worst player in the world). But yeah, ocasionally fanboys can be a pain in the ass regarding hype, espicially the fanboys of top foreigners or Flash. He generally shows a ton of respect for the great players. You definitely have a point. He just has had moments with other foreigners or calling Nestea an idiot that makes it seem like he isn't too respectful. I think the Nestea-incident was a huge misunderstanding from all sides, definitly bad wording from Naniwa, but he corrected himself a day after that already. You´re right about ocasional disrespect towards other foreigners, but that does´nt have much to do with the original point of discussion, which would be him claiming to be better than he is.
Yeah I dunno kev that was stupid and isn't really backed up by evidence.
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On November 30 2013 10:00 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Jaedong ._.
Yeah man. That happened.
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Naniwa doesn't disrespect foreigners any more than we(the forum people) do.
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shit i fell asleep  .. anyone knows which games are good ?
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On November 30 2013 09:58 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2013 09:57 Xoronius wrote:On November 30 2013 09:53 Darkhoarse wrote:On November 30 2013 09:50 Xoronius wrote:On November 30 2013 09:40 Darkhoarse wrote:On November 30 2013 09:38 Xoronius wrote:On November 30 2013 09:36 Darkhoarse wrote:On November 30 2013 09:35 Strela wrote:
Lol everytime a foreigner beats a korean the korean is suddenly a B player according to some people. Well conversely every time a foreigner beats a Korean that foreigner is now the most amazing thing on the face of the Earth. I did´nt see anyone claim, that he would be the best protoss in the world or smth (which would also be wrong) People are just happy. Why would you try to stop them being happy? Occasionally fanboys (Nani and Scarlett fans in particulary) will go with the hyperbole like that. That just bothers me a little bit. Also Naniwa himself. But it's beside the point. I will endeavor to let people be happy. Naniwa himself mostly admits, when players are better than him. He said, that sOs is his inspiration and the reason, why he plays, how he plays now. He also said, that he was very afraid of Soulkey (for a reason) in front of Blizzcon and said during MLG, that he expected to lose vs Jaedong, Dear and Polt, after he won against the first 2. I found his opponent analysis very reasonable until now (except, when he loses to players, he does´nt like that much, I very much disagree with the hypothesis , that Tefel is the worst player in the world). But yeah, ocasionally fanboys can be a pain in the ass regarding hype, espicially the fanboys of top foreigners or Flash. He generally shows a ton of respect for the great players. You definitely have a point. He just has had moments with other foreigners or calling Nestea an idiot that makes it seem like he isn't too respectful. I think the Nestea-incident was a huge misunderstanding from all sides, definitly bad wording from Naniwa, but he corrected himself a day after that already. You´re right about ocasional disrespect towards other foreigners, but that does´nt have much to do with the original point of discussion, which would be him claiming to be better than he is. Yeah I dunno kev that was stupid and isn't really backed up by evidence.
I very much appreciate your way of discussion btw. You normally bring arguments, that make sence, you´re analytical about stuff and if you are wrong, you mostly admit it (Except the fact, that Round Robin >>> GSL-style groups, but noone is perfect). With everyone calling eachother idiots or trolls in internet forums, I think it is just appropriate to mention the opposite of that, so, Darkhoarse, I think you are a valuable forum user.
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Anyone know when the vods will be up? My stream was too laggy, and there are a couple of games I want to watch later (after some 2v2 with a good mate). It's been a good day of SC2 so far: 1v1, TL and DH (when the stream was OK) in the morning to be followed by some 2v2 this afternoon, and some vods (hopefully) and then 3v3 (with another couple of mates) in the evening.
A good weekend day of SC.
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On November 30 2013 10:09 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2013 09:58 Darkhoarse wrote:On November 30 2013 09:57 Xoronius wrote:On November 30 2013 09:53 Darkhoarse wrote:On November 30 2013 09:50 Xoronius wrote:On November 30 2013 09:40 Darkhoarse wrote:On November 30 2013 09:38 Xoronius wrote:On November 30 2013 09:36 Darkhoarse wrote:On November 30 2013 09:35 Strela wrote:
Lol everytime a foreigner beats a korean the korean is suddenly a B player according to some people. Well conversely every time a foreigner beats a Korean that foreigner is now the most amazing thing on the face of the Earth. I did´nt see anyone claim, that he would be the best protoss in the world or smth (which would also be wrong) People are just happy. Why would you try to stop them being happy? Occasionally fanboys (Nani and Scarlett fans in particulary) will go with the hyperbole like that. That just bothers me a little bit. Also Naniwa himself. But it's beside the point. I will endeavor to let people be happy. Naniwa himself mostly admits, when players are better than him. He said, that sOs is his inspiration and the reason, why he plays, how he plays now. He also said, that he was very afraid of Soulkey (for a reason) in front of Blizzcon and said during MLG, that he expected to lose vs Jaedong, Dear and Polt, after he won against the first 2. I found his opponent analysis very reasonable until now (except, when he loses to players, he does´nt like that much, I very much disagree with the hypothesis , that Tefel is the worst player in the world). But yeah, ocasionally fanboys can be a pain in the ass regarding hype, espicially the fanboys of top foreigners or Flash. He generally shows a ton of respect for the great players. You definitely have a point. He just has had moments with other foreigners or calling Nestea an idiot that makes it seem like he isn't too respectful. I think the Nestea-incident was a huge misunderstanding from all sides, definitly bad wording from Naniwa, but he corrected himself a day after that already. You´re right about ocasional disrespect towards other foreigners, but that does´nt have much to do with the original point of discussion, which would be him claiming to be better than he is. Yeah I dunno kev that was stupid and isn't really backed up by evidence. I very much appreciate your way of discussion btw. You normally bring arguments, that make sence, you´re analytical about stuff and if you are wrong, you mostly admit it (Except the fact, that Round Robin >>> GSL-style groups, but noone is perfect). With everyone calling eachother idiots or trolls in internet forums, I think it is just appropriate to mention the opposite of that, so, Darkhoarse, I think you are a valuable forum user.
Haha tears in my eyes man thanks you too of course
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On November 30 2013 10:03 Dodgin wrote:
Naniwa doesn't disrespect foreigners any more than we(the forum people) do.
2 generalizations in a short sentence, you deserve an applause.
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On November 30 2013 10:03 Dodgin wrote:
Naniwa doesn't disrespect foreigners any more than we(the forum people) do.
pretty much true
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On November 30 2013 10:03 Dodgin wrote:
Naniwa doesn't disrespect foreigners any more than we(the forum people) do.
Excellent observation. And he respects Scarlett haha which backs up your point
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On November 30 2013 10:16 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2013 10:09 Xoronius wrote:On November 30 2013 09:58 Darkhoarse wrote:On November 30 2013 09:57 Xoronius wrote:On November 30 2013 09:53 Darkhoarse wrote:On November 30 2013 09:50 Xoronius wrote:On November 30 2013 09:40 Darkhoarse wrote:On November 30 2013 09:38 Xoronius wrote:On November 30 2013 09:36 Darkhoarse wrote:On November 30 2013 09:35 Strela wrote:
Lol everytime a foreigner beats a korean the korean is suddenly a B player according to some people. Well conversely every time a foreigner beats a Korean that foreigner is now the most amazing thing on the face of the Earth. I did´nt see anyone claim, that he would be the best protoss in the world or smth (which would also be wrong) People are just happy. Why would you try to stop them being happy? Occasionally fanboys (Nani and Scarlett fans in particulary) will go with the hyperbole like that. That just bothers me a little bit. Also Naniwa himself. But it's beside the point. I will endeavor to let people be happy. Naniwa himself mostly admits, when players are better than him. He said, that sOs is his inspiration and the reason, why he plays, how he plays now. He also said, that he was very afraid of Soulkey (for a reason) in front of Blizzcon and said during MLG, that he expected to lose vs Jaedong, Dear and Polt, after he won against the first 2. I found his opponent analysis very reasonable until now (except, when he loses to players, he does´nt like that much, I very much disagree with the hypothesis , that Tefel is the worst player in the world). But yeah, ocasionally fanboys can be a pain in the ass regarding hype, espicially the fanboys of top foreigners or Flash. He generally shows a ton of respect for the great players. You definitely have a point. He just has had moments with other foreigners or calling Nestea an idiot that makes it seem like he isn't too respectful. I think the Nestea-incident was a huge misunderstanding from all sides, definitly bad wording from Naniwa, but he corrected himself a day after that already. You´re right about ocasional disrespect towards other foreigners, but that does´nt have much to do with the original point of discussion, which would be him claiming to be better than he is. Yeah I dunno kev that was stupid and isn't really backed up by evidence. I very much appreciate your way of discussion btw. You normally bring arguments, that make sence, you´re analytical about stuff and if you are wrong, you mostly admit it (Except the fact, that Round Robin >>> GSL-style groups, but noone is perfect). With everyone calling eachother idiots or trolls in internet forums, I think it is just appropriate to mention the opposite of that, so, Darkhoarse, I think you are a valuable forum user. Haha tears in my eyes man thanks you too of course
Thanks, I appreciate it.
For friends of statistics:
-With his top-6 finish, Innovation willl overtake viOLet in earnings. If he beats Naniwa/JYP, he will join club 100k. (source: aligulac)
- With his top-3 finish Life will overtake MKP in earnings. (source: aligulac)
-With his top-8 finish, Naniwa will overtake the former swedish quake 4-player Toxiq (Most earning Quake-4 player world-wide) and become Nr.7 in swedish E-sport earnings, behind the Alliance-Dota team and Counter-Strike legend f0rest. (source: esportsearnings)
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