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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
November 28 2013 20:03 GMT
#2281
TvP needs more rocks
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
November 28 2013 20:03 GMT
#2282
On November 29 2013 05:02 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2013 05:01 TUski wrote:
wow proxy oracles are so silly.


well, that was Taeja being silly. Scouting everything but the stargate and then going out on the map of a CC first... what was he thinking sOs was doing? Delaying Warpgate for the funnsies? Taking two gases because they look cool?

sOs could have been expanding after 3 units at 4'50 out of 2 gas, it looked exactly the same for TaeJa. The third Pylon can be built after the SCV leaves the zone he just scouted.
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2720 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-28 20:03:52
November 28 2013 20:03 GMT
#2283
On November 29 2013 05:01 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2013 04:59 manmaw wrote:
Lets be honest;

who did NOT see that proxy oracle coming


Helen Keller


Way to kick a woman while she's blind, deaf, and dead :p
very illegal and very uncool
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 28 2013 20:03 GMT
#2284
The best thing about SC2 balance whiners is that if the oracle was stealth nerfed tomorrow, a lot of people would still whine because they couldn't tell the difference
AdministratorBreak the chains
PanzerElite
Profile Joined May 2012
540 Posts
November 28 2013 20:03 GMT
#2285
On November 29 2013 05:02 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2013 05:01 TUski wrote:
wow proxy oracles are so silly.


well, that was Taeja being silly. Scouting everything but the stargate and then going out on the map of a CC first... what was he thinking sOs was doing? Delaying Warpgate for the funnsies? Taking two gases because they look cool?

protoss and oracles are silly
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
November 28 2013 20:04 GMT
#2286
On November 29 2013 05:03 Zealously wrote:
The best thing about SC2 balance whiners is that if the oracle was stealth nerfed tomorrow, a lot of people would still whine because they couldn't tell the difference

If Oracles were slower then TaeJa totally would have won that!!! /sarcasm
Tuczniak
Profile Joined September 2010
1561 Posts
November 28 2013 20:04 GMT
#2287
omg, oracle, so creative
bourne117
Profile Joined May 2010
United States837 Posts
November 28 2013 20:04 GMT
#2288
Is this how JD fans felt in the finals? I don't like it very much
QO Feasting
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
November 28 2013 20:04 GMT
#2289
On November 29 2013 05:03 Zealously wrote:
The best thing about SC2 balance whiners is that if the oracle was stealth nerfed tomorrow, a lot of people would still whine because they couldn't tell the difference


Doesnt that say more about the unit?
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
November 28 2013 20:04 GMT
#2290
On November 29 2013 05:03 Zealously wrote:
The best thing about SC2 balance whiners is that if the oracle was stealth nerfed tomorrow, a lot of people would still whine because they couldn't tell the difference

Perhaps because it would still instantly win when arriving in an undefended mineral line.
Diogenes
Profile Joined January 2012
United States132 Posts
November 28 2013 20:04 GMT
#2291
On November 29 2013 05:03 Zealously wrote:
The best thing about SC2 balance whiners is that if the oracle was stealth nerfed tomorrow, a lot of people would still whine because they couldn't tell the difference


The best thing about people that don't know what they are talking about is that everyone else knows they are wrong.
"When Godzilla attacks, he advances rather than retreats. We can use this to our advantage."
Extenz
Profile Joined October 2011
Italy822 Posts
November 28 2013 20:05 GMT
#2292
On November 29 2013 05:03 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2013 05:02 Big J wrote:
On November 29 2013 05:01 TUski wrote:
wow proxy oracles are so silly.


well, that was Taeja being silly. Scouting everything but the stargate and then going out on the map of a CC first... what was he thinking sOs was doing? Delaying Warpgate for the funnsies? Taking two gases because they look cool?

sOs could have been expanding after 3 units at 4'50 out of 2 gas, it looked exactly the same for TaeJa. The third Pylon can be built after the SCV leaves the zone he just scouted.

why would he expand with 3 units with 2 full gas when you can expand with 0 units? he didnt even see any units or gate building, that was just dumb not reading that
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
November 28 2013 20:05 GMT
#2293
On November 29 2013 05:03 Zealously wrote:
The best thing about SC2 balance whiners is that if the oracle was stealth nerfed tomorrow, a lot of people would still whine because they couldn't tell the difference

It's that strong.
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
November 28 2013 20:05 GMT
#2294
On November 29 2013 05:03 Zealously wrote:
The best thing about SC2 balance whiners is that if the oracle was stealth nerfed tomorrow, a lot of people would still whine because they couldn't tell the difference


;D nice one. But the oracle is just the top of the iceberg of things that are just wrong in TvP.
bourne117
Profile Joined May 2010
United States837 Posts
November 28 2013 20:05 GMT
#2295
On November 29 2013 05:03 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2013 05:02 Big J wrote:
On November 29 2013 05:01 TUski wrote:
wow proxy oracles are so silly.


well, that was Taeja being silly. Scouting everything but the stargate and then going out on the map of a CC first... what was he thinking sOs was doing? Delaying Warpgate for the funnsies? Taking two gases because they look cool?

sOs could have been expanding after 3 units at 4'50 out of 2 gas, it looked exactly the same for TaeJa. The third Pylon can be built after the SCV leaves the zone he just scouted.

I think the biggest thing is sOs actually hid his build really well by building a useless pylon in his base so Taeja wouldn't think it was a proxy.
QO Feasting
ObeseHydra
Profile Joined March 2013
Brazil196 Posts
November 28 2013 20:05 GMT
#2296
Not that I like the Oracle or it's role, but this game had NOTHING to do with the recent buff. It was BO win and bad game reading by Taeja.
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
November 28 2013 20:05 GMT
#2297
On November 29 2013 05:03 Zealously wrote:
The best thing about SC2 balance whiners is that if the oracle was stealth nerfed tomorrow, a lot of people would still whine because they couldn't tell the difference


Depends on how it was nerfed, if Blizzard actually nerfed it so it became a good micro intensive unit instead of how it is now..maybe
The curse is real
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-28 20:06:57
November 28 2013 20:06 GMT
#2298
at least people started to hate the balance and not SoS
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
November 28 2013 20:06 GMT
#2299
On November 29 2013 05:05 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2013 05:03 Zealously wrote:
The best thing about SC2 balance whiners is that if the oracle was stealth nerfed tomorrow, a lot of people would still whine because they couldn't tell the difference


Depends on how it was nerfed, if Blizzard actually nerfed it so it became a good micro intensive unit instead of how it is now..maybe

Good micro intensive unit is OP by definition. Ask all those whiners about marines from good ol 2010.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
November 28 2013 20:06 GMT
#2300
On November 29 2013 05:05 ObeseHydra wrote:
Not that I like the Oracle or it's role, but this game had NOTHING to do with the recent buff. It was BO win and bad game reading by Taeja.

Of course it didnt directly affect it, but the sheer amounts of proxy Stargates in TvP that patch brought upon us is staggering
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