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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 25 2013 21:05 GMT
#2441
On October 26 2013 06:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 06:02 Godwrath wrote:
On October 26 2013 06:01 Zealously wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:58 Shellshock wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:57 Zealously wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:55 boxerfred wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:55 robson1 wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:54 boxerfred wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:53 blooblooblahblah wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:50 boxerfred wrote:
Dear, Trap, Genius are mostly viewercount killers. There's a reason why fan favourites exist. The minority of viewers really cheers for those guys I would say. I at least don't.


Dear and Trap are fantastic players.


in your opinion


Code S champion being fantastic is not really a opinion.



Tell me more about that fantastic MVP_Sniper

I wish people would get the fuck off the "Sniper was a bad player all along"-bandwagon. It kills my braincells with its sheer stupidity

It's not like he had just a fluke GSL run out of nowhere. He was pegged as a potential darkhorse even the season before. He was the top player for MVP in the GSTL. He looked good in IPTL. He even had several good games before everyone just went infestor brood lord.

Sniper was a mutaling player just like DRG which is something people like to forget as well

We already argued this. He, "who shall not be named", has been the most evil player ever to play sc2, and we hate him. Except shellbot, because he is incapable of feeling.

I like Sniper too. Granted i have no emotional feelings about players either and is zerg/terran biased.


I reckon Voldemort would have been fucking sick at Brood War
Zerg for Life
Duckman
Profile Joined August 2009
United States158 Posts
October 25 2013 21:05 GMT
#2442
On October 26 2013 06:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 06:02 Duckman wrote:
I looked away when it looked like Hero had that game, how did Dear turn it around and win?

Dear was not really behind starting time he got templar archives and 3rd.
Ah he was still on 2 base when I looked away, thought Hero had enough of a lead to keep the 3rd from ever coming up. Thanks for the info.
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
October 25 2013 21:05 GMT
#2443
On October 26 2013 06:04 myminerals wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 06:01 Fusilero wrote:
On October 26 2013 06:00 TheDougler wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:58 Fusilero wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:57 Zealously wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:55 boxerfred wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:55 robson1 wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:54 boxerfred wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:53 blooblooblahblah wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:50 boxerfred wrote:
Dear, Trap, Genius are mostly viewercount killers. There's a reason why fan favourites exist. The minority of viewers really cheers for those guys I would say. I at least don't.


Dear and Trap are fantastic players.


in your opinion


Code S champion being fantastic is not really a opinion.



Tell me more about that fantastic MVP_Sniper

I wish people would get the fuck off the "Sniper was a bad player all along"-bandwagon. It kills my braincells with its sheer stupidity

I find it amusing that jjakji and seed become champs and fall off but they maintain dedicated fans and people say they can comeback, sniper does the same and everyone hindsight shits on him.


Wait wait wait, do people not consider Genius to be a fan favourite? Times have changed man...

Genius beat jaedong and 5000 people who want to think they're cool BW veterans fanboy rage at him by bandwagoning onto jaedong.

I am ashamed of you


He described the facts 100% accurately.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 25 2013 21:05 GMT
#2444
On October 26 2013 06:02 Shellshock wrote:
[WCS Finals] Day 1 Season 3 Group C
[image loading] (P)HerO vs. [image loading] (P)Dear
Game 2 (0-1)
Map: Bel'Shir Vestige

0:00
HerO spawns in the top left
Dear spawns in the bottom right

1:40
gateway first for both players

2:00
gas for Dear
double gas for HerO
Cybernetics core for both players
2nd gas for Dear

3:00
zealot for both players
stalker for HerO

4:00
MSC for HerO
stargate for Dear
sentry for HerO
Nexus for HerO
2nd gate for Dear

5:00
2nd gate for HerO
phoenix production started for Dear
robo for HerO
robo for Dear
Dear scouts the nexus of HerO
Oracle for Dear
another gate for HerO
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 25 2013 21:05 GMT
#2445
2 phoenix, 1 oracle, what is this?
Moderator
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 25 2013 21:05 GMT
#2446
On October 26 2013 06:05 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 06:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 26 2013 06:02 Godwrath wrote:
On October 26 2013 06:01 Zealously wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:58 Shellshock wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:57 Zealously wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:55 boxerfred wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:55 robson1 wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:54 boxerfred wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:53 blooblooblahblah wrote:
[quote]

Dear and Trap are fantastic players.


in your opinion


Code S champion being fantastic is not really a opinion.



Tell me more about that fantastic MVP_Sniper

I wish people would get the fuck off the "Sniper was a bad player all along"-bandwagon. It kills my braincells with its sheer stupidity

It's not like he had just a fluke GSL run out of nowhere. He was pegged as a potential darkhorse even the season before. He was the top player for MVP in the GSTL. He looked good in IPTL. He even had several good games before everyone just went infestor brood lord.

Sniper was a mutaling player just like DRG which is something people like to forget as well

We already argued this. He, "who shall not be named", has been the most evil player ever to play sc2, and we hate him. Except shellbot, because he is incapable of feeling.

I like Sniper too. Granted i have no emotional feelings about players either and is zerg/terran biased.


I reckon Voldemort would have been fucking sick at Brood War

Nah, he can't have fun in it. In SC2, on other hand :3
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
October 25 2013 21:05 GMT
#2447
I've been a fly on the wall for a conversation between Kim Phan and incontrol. They are talking about region lock, looks like its still not decided.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 25 2013 21:05 GMT
#2448
On October 26 2013 06:05 stuchiu wrote:
2 phoenix, 1 oracle, what is this?

sOs is his coach, you forgot?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
October 25 2013 21:06 GMT
#2449
On October 26 2013 06:02 TaishiCi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 05:59 stuchiu wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:57 umade wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:55 Darthsanta13 wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:52 umade wrote:
Every player already qualified for Blizzcon is going to miss RO8. The hate for Naniwa is strong.

Time for someone to make a post about how this is only because the Koreans are conspiring together to make Naniwa fall out of Blizzcon

I wouldn't be surprised.


So listen, can 8 of you throw the chance ofmaking 40k in money so we can make sure Naniwa doesn't make it to Blizzcon?

No fuck off.

At least that's how I imagine that conversation went.

Naniwa fanboys need to justify him not being at Blizzcon somehow.

Like this:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 05:43 Muffloe wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:42 TaishiCi wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:30 Muffloe wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:26 TaishiCi wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:23 Muffloe wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:20 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:20 Muffloe wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:18 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:17 Muffloe wrote:
[quote]
2-0 Innovation says no

After Innovation was on tilt.

Whatever ya say mate :p

Innovation did not even pick off moving observer. He played like HerO on wrong day, obviously.

Naniwa played quite beautiful aswell tho

It was more Innovation slumping HARD than Naniwa's play though.
Innovation's long fall from the top continued with that game, not because of that game.

Id argue that is was top top defense and patience for engages tho, but yeah I guess mr Kespa Robot Sir could've had some kind of slight malfunction

What about him slumping for a couple tournaments don't you understand?
Innovation hasn't been the top player for several months now.
Get over the one win, Naniwa didn't win the tournament or even make a far run.

Nope, definately gonna keep using that as an argument pro Naniwa


As if that argument is bad ._.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 25 2013 21:07 GMT
#2450
On October 26 2013 06:06 Muffloe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 06:02 TaishiCi wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:59 stuchiu wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:57 umade wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:55 Darthsanta13 wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:52 umade wrote:
Every player already qualified for Blizzcon is going to miss RO8. The hate for Naniwa is strong.

Time for someone to make a post about how this is only because the Koreans are conspiring together to make Naniwa fall out of Blizzcon

I wouldn't be surprised.


So listen, can 8 of you throw the chance ofmaking 40k in money so we can make sure Naniwa doesn't make it to Blizzcon?

No fuck off.

At least that's how I imagine that conversation went.

Naniwa fanboys need to justify him not being at Blizzcon somehow.

Like this:
On October 26 2013 05:43 Muffloe wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:42 TaishiCi wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:30 Muffloe wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:26 TaishiCi wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:23 Muffloe wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:20 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:20 Muffloe wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:18 lolfail9001 wrote:
[quote]
After Innovation was on tilt.

Whatever ya say mate :p

Innovation did not even pick off moving observer. He played like HerO on wrong day, obviously.

Naniwa played quite beautiful aswell tho

It was more Innovation slumping HARD than Naniwa's play though.
Innovation's long fall from the top continued with that game, not because of that game.

Id argue that is was top top defense and patience for engages tho, but yeah I guess mr Kespa Robot Sir could've had some kind of slight malfunction

What about him slumping for a couple tournaments don't you understand?
Innovation hasn't been the top player for several months now.
Get over the one win, Naniwa didn't win the tournament or even make a far run.

Nope, definately gonna keep using that as an argument pro Naniwa


As if that argument is bad ._.

It is like worst justification of him being worth Blizzcon spot :D
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 25 2013 21:07 GMT
#2451
On October 26 2013 06:01 BlackCompany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 06:01 Fusilero wrote:
On October 26 2013 06:00 TheDougler wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:58 Fusilero wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:57 Zealously wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:55 boxerfred wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:55 robson1 wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:54 boxerfred wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:53 blooblooblahblah wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:50 boxerfred wrote:
Dear, Trap, Genius are mostly viewercount killers. There's a reason why fan favourites exist. The minority of viewers really cheers for those guys I would say. I at least don't.


Dear and Trap are fantastic players.


in your opinion


Code S champion being fantastic is not really a opinion.



Tell me more about that fantastic MVP_Sniper

I wish people would get the fuck off the "Sniper was a bad player all along"-bandwagon. It kills my braincells with its sheer stupidity

I find it amusing that jjakji and seed become champs and fall off but they maintain dedicated fans and people say they can comeback, sniper does the same and everyone hindsight shits on him.


Wait wait wait, do people not consider Genius to be a fan favourite? Times have changed man...

Genius beat jaedong and 5000 people who want to think they're cool BW veterans fanboy rage at him by bandwagoning onto jaedong.

You forgot the part where Protoss is stupid and all they can do is cheesy imba all-ins


Its not particulary about that they "can only do that", but these kind of things are just soo unforgiving, jaedong got unlucky with his scouting 2 times and then has no chance at all to defend there. I mean i dont understand how you can argue against the shit that is warpgate, have your new built army instant there where you need it is just fking ridiculous oftentimes.. Protoss is just a gamble race, thats the reason why they are so strong in bo1's and you almost never see really great agmes out of PvX matchups.
And no i wont shut up or do something else, cause i enjoy every other matchup without protoss in it.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
October 25 2013 21:07 GMT
#2452
On October 26 2013 06:05 stuchiu wrote:
2 phoenix, 1 oracle, what is this?


dear sure likes oracles at weird times. Remember that PvZ build? with Stargate into 7 minute oracle?
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
MrLightning
Profile Joined September 2013
306 Posts
October 25 2013 21:08 GMT
#2453
On October 26 2013 06:05 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 06:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 26 2013 06:02 Godwrath wrote:
On October 26 2013 06:01 Zealously wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:58 Shellshock wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:57 Zealously wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:55 boxerfred wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:55 robson1 wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:54 boxerfred wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:53 blooblooblahblah wrote:
[quote]

Dear and Trap are fantastic players.


in your opinion


Code S champion being fantastic is not really a opinion.



Tell me more about that fantastic MVP_Sniper

I wish people would get the fuck off the "Sniper was a bad player all along"-bandwagon. It kills my braincells with its sheer stupidity

It's not like he had just a fluke GSL run out of nowhere. He was pegged as a potential darkhorse even the season before. He was the top player for MVP in the GSTL. He looked good in IPTL. He even had several good games before everyone just went infestor brood lord.

Sniper was a mutaling player just like DRG which is something people like to forget as well

We already argued this. He, "who shall not be named", has been the most evil player ever to play sc2, and we hate him. Except shellbot, because he is incapable of feeling.

I like Sniper too. Granted i have no emotional feelings about players either and is zerg/terran biased.


I reckon Voldemort would have been fucking sick at Brood War


We went from the significance of winning GSL to Sniper to Voldemort in a thread that is about a tournament with non of these things in it. Yep.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 25 2013 21:08 GMT
#2454
On October 26 2013 06:07 robson1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 06:05 stuchiu wrote:
2 phoenix, 1 oracle, what is this?


dear sure likes oracles at weird times. Remember that PvZ build? with Stargate into 7 minute oracle?


Well I've seen that a few times from MC, and I think babyK. This is new, but then I don't look though every PvP like I do the other matchups.
Moderator
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-25 21:09:43
October 25 2013 21:09 GMT
#2455
On October 26 2013 06:07 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 06:01 BlackCompany wrote:
On October 26 2013 06:01 Fusilero wrote:
On October 26 2013 06:00 TheDougler wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:58 Fusilero wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:57 Zealously wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:55 boxerfred wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:55 robson1 wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:54 boxerfred wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:53 blooblooblahblah wrote:
[quote]

Dear and Trap are fantastic players.


in your opinion


Code S champion being fantastic is not really a opinion.



Tell me more about that fantastic MVP_Sniper

I wish people would get the fuck off the "Sniper was a bad player all along"-bandwagon. It kills my braincells with its sheer stupidity

I find it amusing that jjakji and seed become champs and fall off but they maintain dedicated fans and people say they can comeback, sniper does the same and everyone hindsight shits on him.


Wait wait wait, do people not consider Genius to be a fan favourite? Times have changed man...

Genius beat jaedong and 5000 people who want to think they're cool BW veterans fanboy rage at him by bandwagoning onto jaedong.

You forgot the part where Protoss is stupid and all they can do is cheesy imba all-ins


Its not particulary about that they "can only do that", but these kind of things are just soo unforgiving, jaedong got unlucky with his scouting 2 times and then has no chance at all to defend there. I mean i dont understand how you can argue against the shit that is warpgate, have your new built army instant there where you need it is just fking ridiculous oftentimes.. Protoss is just a gamble race, thats the reason why they are so strong in bo1's and you almost never see really great agmes out of PvX matchups.
And no i wont shut up or do something else, cause i enjoy every other matchup without protoss in it.


Do I have to keep doing this?[image loading]
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 25 2013 21:09 GMT
#2456
On October 26 2013 06:05 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 06:02 Shellshock wrote:
[WCS Finals] Day 1 Season 3 Group C
[image loading] (P)HerO vs. [image loading] (P)Dear
Game 2 (0-1)
Map: Bel'Shir Vestige

0:00
HerO spawns in the top left
Dear spawns in the bottom right

1:40
gateway first for both players

2:00
gas for Dear
double gas for HerO
Cybernetics core for both players
2nd gas for Dear

3:00
zealot for both players
stalker for HerO

4:00
MSC for HerO
stargate for Dear
sentry for HerO
Nexus for HerO
2nd gate for Dear

5:00
2nd gate for HerO
phoenix production started for Dear
robo for HerO
robo for Dear
Dear scouts the nexus of HerO
Oracle for Dear
another gate for HerO

6:00
2 phoenixes scouting HerO's base
observer for Dear
probe scout on the map is killed by phoenixes
immortal started for Dear

7:00 H 48 vs D 49
Nexus on the way for Dear
immortal started for HerO
oracle is denied from the main of HerO by photon overcharge
Twilight council for HerO

8:00 H 58 vs D 58
another gas for HerO
forge for HerO
forge for Dear
Templar archives for HerO
another gate for HerO
Dear continuing immortal production

9:00 H 66 vs D 72
+1 attack for HerO
+1 attack for Dear
2 more gates for HerO
Robo bay for Dear
HerO warping in HTs
another gate for Dear

10:00 H 76 vs D 80
another gate for Dear
2 more gates for HerO
phoenixes denying hallucinated phoenix scouts throughout the game
HerO finally gets one through
Oracle of Dear is killed in the main of HerO by feedback
Twilight council for Dear
Warp prism for HerO
charge research for HerO
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purgerinho
Profile Joined June 2008
Croatia919 Posts
October 25 2013 21:09 GMT
#2457
observer is not on the game level...
SUMMARIZED (by DeMu): You CANNOT surprise a top level Protoss with a build
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 25 2013 21:09 GMT
#2458
On October 26 2013 06:09 purgerinho wrote:
observer is not on the game level...


NASL needs to get an obs, at least for the major finals.
Moderator
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
October 25 2013 21:10 GMT
#2459
Now seems Kim Phan is leaning away from region lock, talking about doing other things for local players
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
October 25 2013 21:10 GMT
#2460
On October 26 2013 06:07 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 06:01 BlackCompany wrote:
On October 26 2013 06:01 Fusilero wrote:
On October 26 2013 06:00 TheDougler wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:58 Fusilero wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:57 Zealously wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:55 boxerfred wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:55 robson1 wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:54 boxerfred wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:53 blooblooblahblah wrote:
[quote]

Dear and Trap are fantastic players.


in your opinion


Code S champion being fantastic is not really a opinion.



Tell me more about that fantastic MVP_Sniper

I wish people would get the fuck off the "Sniper was a bad player all along"-bandwagon. It kills my braincells with its sheer stupidity

I find it amusing that jjakji and seed become champs and fall off but they maintain dedicated fans and people say they can comeback, sniper does the same and everyone hindsight shits on him.


Wait wait wait, do people not consider Genius to be a fan favourite? Times have changed man...

Genius beat jaedong and 5000 people who want to think they're cool BW veterans fanboy rage at him by bandwagoning onto jaedong.

You forgot the part where Protoss is stupid and all they can do is cheesy imba all-ins


Its not particulary about that they "can only do that", but these kind of things are just soo unforgiving, jaedong got unlucky with his scouting 2 times and then has no chance at all to defend there. I mean i dont understand how you can argue against the shit that is warpgate, have your new built army instant there where you need it is just fking ridiculous oftentimes.. Protoss is just a gamble race, thats the reason why they are so strong in bo1's and you almost never see really great agmes out of PvX matchups.
And no i wont shut up or do something else, cause i enjoy every other matchup without protoss in it.

I didnt realize someone is forcing you to watch this games with Protoss participating
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