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Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8483 Posts
October 18 2013 00:15 GMT
#521
On October 18 2013 09:13 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 09:12 Doublemint wrote:
On October 18 2013 09:11 stuchiu wrote:
On October 18 2013 09:11 The_Templar wrote:
On October 18 2013 09:09 Doublemint wrote:
On October 18 2013 09:08 Killmouse wrote:
On October 18 2013 09:04 Doublemint wrote:
lol @ ZvT Zerg favored when Byul wins game 1 against Polt :D

stats says it aswell tbh

http://aligulac.com/reports/balance/


what exactly do these stats say now?

TvZ win rate < 50%


48% isnt something I'd cry about.


Yeah well, some Ts in here think differently.


Well, it was 54% not that long ago.


And in May TvZ was 55%. Over time the pendulum swung in the other direction as Zergs adapted.
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-18 00:18:02
October 18 2013 00:16 GMT
#522
On October 18 2013 09:11 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 09:11 The_Templar wrote:
On October 18 2013 09:09 Doublemint wrote:
On October 18 2013 09:08 Killmouse wrote:
On October 18 2013 09:04 Doublemint wrote:
lol @ ZvT Zerg favored when Byul wins game 1 against Polt :D

stats says it aswell tbh

http://aligulac.com/reports/balance/


what exactly do these stats say now?

TvZ win rate < 50%


48% isnt something I'd cry about.

just saying that its true that zvt is atm zerg favored even if its 2%more , its still zerg favored, im not saying thou thats zerg is imba which they are not ofc

and btw these are stats from september
yo
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
October 18 2013 00:16 GMT
#523
On October 18 2013 09:15 TheDwf wrote:
Polt's build too modest, third/upgrades delayed for dubious upsides.

He probably doesn't have much practice time. He did say he turned in his mid-term paper yesterday =(.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8483 Posts
October 18 2013 00:18 GMT
#524
On October 18 2013 09:15 Zarahtra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 09:12 Doublemint wrote:
On October 18 2013 09:11 stuchiu wrote:
On October 18 2013 09:11 The_Templar wrote:
On October 18 2013 09:09 Doublemint wrote:
On October 18 2013 09:08 Killmouse wrote:
On October 18 2013 09:04 Doublemint wrote:
lol @ ZvT Zerg favored when Byul wins game 1 against Polt :D

stats says it aswell tbh

http://aligulac.com/reports/balance/


what exactly do these stats say now?

TvZ win rate < 50%


48% isnt something I'd cry about.


Yeah well, some Ts in here think differently.

Well it still makes you think how it'd be if they go through with the VM nerf, especially how it'd be if they had gutted it like the initially proposed.


And they did not go through with the changes. Crying before actual pain is quite the opposite of manliness.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
October 18 2013 00:18 GMT
#525
On October 18 2013 09:16 ssxsilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 09:15 TheDwf wrote:
Polt's build too modest, third/upgrades delayed for dubious upsides.

He probably doesn't have much practice time. He did say he turned in his mid-term paper yesterday =(.

I really doubt he's unaware of standard triple OC builds, it's just a choice from him to use this kind of build.
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
October 18 2013 00:19 GMT
#526
Zergling splitting, wow. Byul is good.
:3
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 18 2013 00:19 GMT
#527
On October 18 2013 09:14 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 09:11 The_Templar wrote:
On October 18 2013 09:07 The_Templar wrote:
(T)Polt vs (Z)ByuL
0-1
Map: Derelict Watcher


Polt spawns in the bottom left
ByuL spawns in the top right

2:00
Byul scouting with a drone.
Byul going hatchery first.
Polt getting a reaper.

3:00
Byul making a spawning pool followed by an extractor.
Polt expanding to his natural expansion.
Polt getting a reactor on his barracks.
Byul making 2 queens and some zerglings.

4:00
Byul getting zergling speed.
Polt getting a factory.

5:00
Polt making a starport.
Polt getting 2 reactor hellions.
Polt making a bunker at his natural expansion.

6:00 (T)Polt 43 vs (Z)ByuL 52
Polt moving out with two hellions.
Polt getting a viking.
Byul making extra queens.
Polt fully walling his natural expansion.
Byul making plenty of extra zerglings.

7:00 (T)Polt 56 vs (Z)ByuL 60
Polt moving out with reapers and hellions.
Byul throws down 2 evolution chambers in his natural.
Polt getting stim.
Byul taking his third base.
Byul getting overlord speed.

8:00 (T)Polt 64 vs (Z)ByuL 68
Polt making a third command center.
Polt getting medivacs and widow mines.
Byul starting 1/1.
Byul surrounds the hellions and kills them.

9:00 (T)Polt 68 vs (Z)ByuL 87
Polt getting 2 engineering bays.
Polt getting +1/1.
Byul getting a lair.
Polt looking to do a double drop.

10:00 (T)Polt 85 vs (Z)ByuL 102
Polt killing overlords with a viking.
Byul getting zergling speed.
Polt kills 10 banelings with a widow mine by luring them with marines.

11:00 (T)Polt 112 vs (Z)ByuL 105
Polt dropping and soaking up lots of baneling fire.
Byul finishing up a spire.
Polt taking his third base.
Byul getting static defense in his main.

12:00 (T)Polt 112 vs (Z)ByuL 130
Byul getting +2/2.
Polt making an armory.
Polt has reactors on his factory and starport.
Byul tries to get into the third but it's walled on time.

13:00 (T)Polt 126 vs (Z)ByuL 133
Byul taking a 4th base.
Polt making a second factory.
Polt getting +2/2.
Polt moving to the top of the map.
Byul catching Polt's forces but loses a lot of zerglings to widow mines.

14:00 (T)Polt 160 vs (Z)ByuL 162
Polt moves back to the top area and is killing the rocks.
Byul getting burrow.

15:00 (T)Polt 177 vs (Z)ByuL 190
Polt crawling towards Byul's 4th base.
Byul sending small forces towards Polt's army.
Polt attempting drops.

16:00 (T)Polt 177 vs (Z)ByuL 191
Byul gets a huge flank on Polt's forces and splits well to kill most of it.
Polt starting 3/3.
Polt building 2 more command centers.
Byul sends his army to scout for a 4th base.
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ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
October 18 2013 00:19 GMT
#528
On October 18 2013 09:18 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 09:16 ssxsilver wrote:
On October 18 2013 09:15 TheDwf wrote:
Polt's build too modest, third/upgrades delayed for dubious upsides.

He probably doesn't have much practice time. He did say he turned in his mid-term paper yesterday =(.

I really doubt he's unaware of standard triple OC builds, it's just a choice from him to use this kind of build.

I mean he's opting to play this style as he's likely more comfortable for him.
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
October 18 2013 00:19 GMT
#529
casters are always at war with that units lost tab.
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
October 18 2013 00:20 GMT
#530
On October 18 2013 09:18 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 09:15 Zarahtra wrote:
On October 18 2013 09:12 Doublemint wrote:
On October 18 2013 09:11 stuchiu wrote:
On October 18 2013 09:11 The_Templar wrote:
On October 18 2013 09:09 Doublemint wrote:
On October 18 2013 09:08 Killmouse wrote:
On October 18 2013 09:04 Doublemint wrote:
lol @ ZvT Zerg favored when Byul wins game 1 against Polt :D

stats says it aswell tbh

http://aligulac.com/reports/balance/


what exactly do these stats say now?

TvZ win rate < 50%


48% isnt something I'd cry about.


Yeah well, some Ts in here think differently.

Well it still makes you think how it'd be if they go through with the VM nerf, especially how it'd be if they had gutted it like the initially proposed.


And they did not go through with the changes. Crying before actual pain is quite the opposite of manliness.

No but it's quite concerning though how Blizzard doesn't have anywhere close to correct pulse on the state of the game.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8483 Posts
October 18 2013 00:20 GMT
#531
On October 18 2013 09:16 Killmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 09:11 stuchiu wrote:
On October 18 2013 09:11 The_Templar wrote:
On October 18 2013 09:09 Doublemint wrote:
On October 18 2013 09:08 Killmouse wrote:
On October 18 2013 09:04 Doublemint wrote:
lol @ ZvT Zerg favored when Byul wins game 1 against Polt :D

stats says it aswell tbh

http://aligulac.com/reports/balance/


what exactly do these stats say now?

TvZ win rate < 50%


48% isnt something I'd cry about.

just saying that its true that zvt is atm zerg favored even if its 2%more , its still zerg favored, im not saying thou thats zerg is imba which they are not ofc

and btw these are stats from september


cuz it's still Oct. 18th... At least where I am that is.

Behold, I come from the future.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
October 18 2013 00:21 GMT
#532
Polt got his 3/3 lead soon.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
October 18 2013 00:21 GMT
#533
I liked how the mutas went back to kill off two of the reinforcing medivacs.
:3
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 18 2013 00:22 GMT
#534
On October 18 2013 09:19 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 09:14 The_Templar wrote:
On October 18 2013 09:11 The_Templar wrote:
On October 18 2013 09:07 The_Templar wrote:
(T)Polt vs (Z)ByuL
0-1
Map: Derelict Watcher


Polt spawns in the bottom left
ByuL spawns in the top right

2:00
Byul scouting with a drone.
Byul going hatchery first.
Polt getting a reaper.

3:00
Byul making a spawning pool followed by an extractor.
Polt expanding to his natural expansion.
Polt getting a reactor on his barracks.
Byul making 2 queens and some zerglings.

4:00
Byul getting zergling speed.
Polt getting a factory.

5:00
Polt making a starport.
Polt getting 2 reactor hellions.
Polt making a bunker at his natural expansion.

6:00 (T)Polt 43 vs (Z)ByuL 52
Polt moving out with two hellions.
Polt getting a viking.
Byul making extra queens.
Polt fully walling his natural expansion.
Byul making plenty of extra zerglings.

7:00 (T)Polt 56 vs (Z)ByuL 60
Polt moving out with reapers and hellions.
Byul throws down 2 evolution chambers in his natural.
Polt getting stim.
Byul taking his third base.
Byul getting overlord speed.

8:00 (T)Polt 64 vs (Z)ByuL 68
Polt making a third command center.
Polt getting medivacs and widow mines.
Byul starting 1/1.
Byul surrounds the hellions and kills them.

9:00 (T)Polt 68 vs (Z)ByuL 87
Polt getting 2 engineering bays.
Polt getting +1/1.
Byul getting a lair.
Polt looking to do a double drop.

10:00 (T)Polt 85 vs (Z)ByuL 102
Polt killing overlords with a viking.
Byul getting zergling speed.
Polt kills 10 banelings with a widow mine by luring them with marines.

11:00 (T)Polt 112 vs (Z)ByuL 105
Polt dropping and soaking up lots of baneling fire.
Byul finishing up a spire.
Polt taking his third base.
Byul getting static defense in his main.

12:00 (T)Polt 112 vs (Z)ByuL 130
Byul getting +2/2.
Polt making an armory.
Polt has reactors on his factory and starport.
Byul tries to get into the third but it's walled on time.

13:00 (T)Polt 126 vs (Z)ByuL 133
Byul taking a 4th base.
Polt making a second factory.
Polt getting +2/2.
Polt moving to the top of the map.
Byul catching Polt's forces but loses a lot of zerglings to widow mines.

14:00 (T)Polt 160 vs (Z)ByuL 162
Polt moves back to the top area and is killing the rocks.
Byul getting burrow.

15:00 (T)Polt 177 vs (Z)ByuL 190
Polt crawling towards Byul's 4th base.
Byul sending small forces towards Polt's army.
Polt attempting drops.

16:00 (T)Polt 177 vs (Z)ByuL 191
Byul gets a huge flank on Polt's forces and splits well to kill most of it.
Polt starting 3/3.
Polt building 2 more command centers.
Byul sends his army to scout for a 4th base.

17:00 (T)Polt 180 vs (Z)ByuL 196
Polt takes his 4th base.
Byul getting +1 flier weapons.

18:00 (T)Polt 200 vs (Z)ByuL 189
Byul attacks the fourth but doesn't go for the SCVs.
Byul kills some medivacs.

19:00 (T)Polt 194 vs (Z)ByuL 195
Polt clearing some creep.
Byul going for another attack on Polt's 4th base.
Polt kills the command center but has to back off.

20:00 (T)Polt 192vs (Z)ByuL 169
Polt making another CC.
Byul taking a 5th base in the bottom right.
Polt finds the 5th base of Byul.
Polt getting building upgrades.
Byul researching adrenal glands.
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Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
October 18 2013 00:22 GMT
#535
How can the zerg have such a huge bank while being so hard behind in the lost tab ? :/
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
October 18 2013 00:22 GMT
#536
haha its so funny caster telling all the time that byul is so costefficient and then they open the unit lost tab XD
yo
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
October 18 2013 00:22 GMT
#537
On October 18 2013 09:22 Faust852 wrote:
How can the zerg have such a huge bank while being so hard behind in the lost tab ? :/

85 workers.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8483 Posts
October 18 2013 00:22 GMT
#538
Byul playing a very Curious-esque style. The same style that got innovation beaten.

Sick fight on creep, not looking good for Polt here.
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
October 18 2013 00:22 GMT
#539
wtf polt, why doesnt he attack the fourth and fifth
TL+ Member
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-18 00:24:24
October 18 2013 00:23 GMT
#540
I'm so happy that bio-mine finally seems to be figured out. Maybe now Terran players might bother try and make other styles work :p

Byul is just bodying Polt this game.
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