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[Code S] Semi-Finals WCS Korea GSL Season 3 2013 - Page 68

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malady
Profile Joined November 2010
United States600 Posts
October 09 2013 17:14 GMT
#1341
woot woot dear deserved it!!!
dumchu
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
October 09 2013 17:18 GMT
#1342
Actually that's very true, people are ignoring the run Dear and Soo made, it's actually quite impressive and very deserving. SoO especially
Refer to my post.
Baroninthetree
Profile Joined August 2012
United States473 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-09 17:19:06
October 09 2013 17:18 GMT
#1343
I have nothing against the players, I am sure dear and soo and even trap have great skills and they deserve the victory.

But let me explain why this is, unfortunately, killing the viewship and the scene.
Sc2 isn't getting any new fans anytime soon. And these kespa talent doesn't carry any old BW fans over. BW fans are still in bw scene since they hate sc2 so much.
So what happens when kespa talents knock out old fan favors, is that fans of old times will simly move away from sc2 scene until their Heroes return. Now those like mkp neastea, MVP and seed, or leenock, jjakji and drg might not ever come back. Therefore, the sc2 will just keep on shrinking.

No fresh blood in audience, new talents do more damage than contribution, especially when they are from kespa, that old fans find hard to connected due to the old "elephant in the room" drama. It's cold and unfair.

This will particular hurt if there'd ever be a region lock. Just imagine that neastea MVP and mkp retire and Gsl is ruled by new kespa nobles.

The key is how to attract new audience, to grow the fan base for the new talents. But that blizzard is so struggled in.
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
October 09 2013 17:20 GMT
#1344
soo has Rain and Parting to practice with. He better win finals.
never_Nal
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica676 Posts
October 09 2013 17:23 GMT
#1345
Oh man I don't know what to think :D. This is the REAL final, both players deserved it, now what race should win this? My heart says Zerg, my mind Protoss, just because Protoss need to win GSL
Be kind whenever possible. It is always possible.
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
October 09 2013 17:26 GMT
#1346
lolwut.
rip prime
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
October 09 2013 17:31 GMT
#1347
Very happy we don't have another Terran in a GSL finals, and I'm especially glad its not Maru.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
ThePrince
Profile Joined October 2010
Peru331 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-09 17:49:47
October 09 2013 17:48 GMT
#1348
soO run>

Yongwha
Bomber
Super
Innovation
Parting
Soulkey


Dear run>

Supernova
Supernova
DRG
Sleep
Trap
Maru

Impressive if you ask me.



Dear's last opponents were Maru-Trap-Sleep. 3 Races

soO's last opponents were Innovation-Parting-Soulkey. What a Trifecta! Also 3 Races.
SK_MC, ST_Parting, STX_Bogus fighting!!! Colossi should shoot nukes and blink.
14pool
Profile Joined September 2013
Canada7 Posts
October 09 2013 17:48 GMT
#1349
That's too bad, poor Soulkey I was looking forward to seeing him play in the finals again.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
October 09 2013 17:53 GMT
#1350
Dear's run isn't that impressive, actually. Besides Maru, I'm forced to recognize that he didn't beat anybody really good.
soO on the other hand...shit son :D
Holdenintherye
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada1441 Posts
October 09 2013 17:58 GMT
#1351
Ugh noooooo why maru, why???
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
October 09 2013 18:00 GMT
#1352
Damn. SoO is the real deal. Wasn't expecting that at all. Dear I figured had a shot, but I'm not too familiar with any of these players except for Soulkey.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
October 09 2013 18:01 GMT
#1353
On October 10 2013 00:44 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2013 00:13 Arceus wrote:
On October 09 2013 23:42 Caihead wrote:
these results. It's Calm vs Kwanro all over again.

On October 09 2013 23:37 shadymmj wrote:
omg....!

pls.die_soOn is into a finals?


He's hit the Ro8 numerous times in BW and is pretty much the only SKT zerg that was consistently sent out outside of a super performing s2, he deserves it for all the non-attention he's been getting for years from being shunned for Bisu/Fantasy/Best.

Storyline-wise Maru is the new flash: young, super talented, and has endless potential, doesn't make it to consecutive Finals after defeating the Protoss king.
Dear is the new Jaedong: Takes down legends as a rookie and doesn't give a fuck who he goes up against in terms of results.

I'm okay with this.

2.5 years of utter mediocrity+0.5 years of cheese-infused, high level play = new Flash, what?


Lmao, that's exactly what Flash was. Now Maru's not going to hit the finals for another year then dominate with Macro play and people will eventually call him boring for winning all the time.


So starting next year, Maru will dominate individual tournaments like Flash did. He will do it by splitting maps and waiting until his opponent's half runs out of minerals first.
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
October 09 2013 18:01 GMT
#1354
Woohoo! 3-0! Nice work SoO. Deserved finals for both players. I hope it is a good one with top notch PvZ.
KT best KT ~ 2014
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 09 2013 18:04 GMT
#1355
That awkward moment when you see the list of players those guys have beaten and think to yourself: Hm, who will the finals now. For some reason answer Dear comes to mind, probably because soO have beaten Soulkey, and it is GSL.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
ThePrince
Profile Joined October 2010
Peru331 Posts
October 09 2013 18:05 GMT
#1356
On October 10 2013 02:53 ZenithM wrote:
Dear's run isn't that impressive, actually. Besides Maru, I'm forced to recognize that he didn't beat anybody really good.
soO on the other hand...shit son :D


Trap is good though. And DRG was supposed to be good.
SK_MC, ST_Parting, STX_Bogus fighting!!! Colossi should shoot nukes and blink.
LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-09 18:18:23
October 09 2013 18:12 GMT
#1357
Wow, this is even worse than 2012 GSL Season 5. At least then HyuN was a royal roader with some Fight Club hype, and Sniper made a slightly (more) interesting villain. Soon, we'll have to call either Dear or soO a GSL champion...Well, hopefully they don't follow the Seed/Sniper path of mid-tier Code S player -> GSL Champion -> mid-tier Code A player.

On October 09 2013 21:27 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 21:21 opterown wrote:
On October 09 2013 21:16 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 09 2013 21:15 EngrishTeacher wrote:
lolwut...

Meh, just happy that an SKT zerg might finally win a premier tournament ahahahaha

Did you now know that every player that have beaten Soulkey in GSL lost in the next round? So, nah, Dear wins, soO 2nd.
Wait a minute, we may actually end up with Dear getting a 2nd royal road, huh.

anyone who 3-0's soulkey gets 4-0'd right after ;D


Here are some statistics in GSL and WCS KR S2:
In GSL 2012 S5 Ro32 Soulkey lost to HerO in initial match, HerO proceeded to lose winner's match and rematch.
In Ro16 he lost to Leenock, who got knocked out in Ro8 by Sniper.
In Ro8 he lost to Inno, who got knocked out in Ro4 by HyuN
In GSL 2013 S1 he afaik topped both groups and lost to TaeJa, who lost to Roro in next round.
In WCS KR S1 Ro32 he lost to Flash, Flash proceeded to place last in Ro16 group.
In WCS finals S1 he lost to sOs in Ro4, sOs placed 2nd :D
In WCS KR S2 Ro32 he lost to YugiOh, YugiOh proceeded to lose to Flash and rematch against Soulkey.
In Ro8 he lost to Inno, story is known.
In WCS KR S3 Ro16 he lost to Sleep, Sleep proceeded to lose to Dear and rematch to Soulkey.
In Ro4 he lost to soO, result is unknown yet.
So, Soulkey is like anti-final-boss. If you beat him, you lose.


:o Cool stats.

Edit: It's kinda weird that there's been almost no acknowledgement of soO being a skilled player. Even Sniper, people admitted was playing well when he took the championship, and the list of players soO has gone through is probably more impressive than Sniper's.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 09 2013 18:13 GMT
#1358
On October 10 2013 03:12 LockeTazeline wrote:
Wow, this is even worse than 2012 GSL Season 5. At least then HyuN was a royal roader with some Fight Club hype, and Sniper made a slightly (more) interesting villain. Soon, we'll have to call either Dear or soO a GSL champion...Well, hopefully they don't follow the Seed/Sniper path of mid-tier Code S player -> GSL Champion -> mid-tier Code A player.

Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 21:27 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 09 2013 21:21 opterown wrote:
On October 09 2013 21:16 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 09 2013 21:15 EngrishTeacher wrote:
lolwut...

Meh, just happy that an SKT zerg might finally win a premier tournament ahahahaha

Did you now know that every player that have beaten Soulkey in GSL lost in the next round? So, nah, Dear wins, soO 2nd.
Wait a minute, we may actually end up with Dear getting a 2nd royal road, huh.

anyone who 3-0's soulkey gets 4-0'd right after ;D


Here are some statistics in GSL and WCS KR S2:
In GSL 2012 S5 Ro32 Soulkey lost to HerO in initial match, HerO proceeded to lose winner's match and rematch.
In Ro16 he lost to Leenock, who got knocked out in Ro8 by Sniper.
In Ro8 he lost to Inno, who got knocked out in Ro4 by HyuN
In GSL 2013 S1 he afaik topped both groups and lost to TaeJa, who lost to Roro in next round.
In WCS KR S1 Ro32 he lost to Flash, Flash proceeded to place last in Ro16 group.
In WCS finals S1 he lost to sOs in Ro4, sOs placed 2nd :D
In WCS KR S2 Ro32 he lost to YugiOh, YugiOh proceeded to lose to Flash and rematch against Soulkey.
In Ro8 he lost to Inno, story is known.
In WCS KR S3 Ro16 he lost to Sleep, Sleep proceeded to lose to Dear and rematch to Soulkey.
In Ro4 he lost to soO, result is unknown yet.
So, Soulkey is like anti-final-boss. If you beat him, you lose.


:o Cool stats.

Dear is Royal Roader actually.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Steins;Gate
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1422 Posts
October 09 2013 18:15 GMT
#1359
On October 10 2013 02:20 trifecta wrote:
soo has Rain and Parting to practice with. He better win finals.


lol, if he wants to win he shouldn't practice with PartinG
" Perhaps it's impossible to wear an identity without becoming what you pretend to be. "
LittleRedBoy
Profile Joined April 2011
United States229 Posts
October 09 2013 18:15 GMT
#1360
A few months ago, most people thought that Innovation would be the first player from STX Soul to win WCS Korea. Most people also thought that Rain would be the first player from SK Telecom to win WCS Korea. It looks like one of those predictions will be wrong.
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