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Niko_Thien
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany2671 Posts
October 15 2013 19:04 GMT
#61
On October 16 2013 03:57 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 03:56 75 wrote:
On October 16 2013 03:54 Doublemint wrote:
On October 16 2013 03:51 75 wrote:
so only mori is casting the finals? that is kinda bad, imo.

take+naruto did a great job today


This can't be true... why should they stop casting before the finals?

oh, sorry then.

i thought take just said that they cant cast the finals but would like to do so.


I don't know what they said as I did not pay attention to the stream but just generally that does not make sense to me... of course I could be wrong and you are right but I stand by it that it would not make any sense.

They weren't allowed to cast the in the last EPS cup so I would be (positively) surprised, if they would. But maybe Mori gets them to cocast on skype
@Niko_Thien on twitter!
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8516 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-15 19:07:33
October 15 2013 19:05 GMT
#62
On October 16 2013 04:04 Niko_Thien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 03:57 Doublemint wrote:
On October 16 2013 03:56 75 wrote:
On October 16 2013 03:54 Doublemint wrote:
On October 16 2013 03:51 75 wrote:
so only mori is casting the finals? that is kinda bad, imo.

take+naruto did a great job today


This can't be true... why should they stop casting before the finals?

oh, sorry then.

i thought take just said that they cant cast the finals but would like to do so.


I don't know what they said as I did not pay attention to the stream but just generally that does not make sense to me... of course I could be wrong and you are right but I stand by it that it would not make any sense.

They weren't allowed to cast the in the last EPS cup so I would be (positively) surprised, if they would. But maybe Mori gets them to cocast on skype


I see, maybe a sponsorship thing. Still it would be pretty retarded...
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
October 15 2013 19:10 GMT
#63
Mori has exclusive rights to cast the EPS. He picks a game from a round and we get to pick other games. As the final is just one game, we may not cast it. Thats how it works currently. Sorry bout that!
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8516 Posts
October 15 2013 19:12 GMT
#64
On October 16 2013 04:10 NarutO wrote:
Mori has exclusive rights to cast the EPS. He picks a game from a round and we get to pick other games. As the final is just one game, we may not cast it. Thats how it works currently. Sorry bout that!


Oh ok, too bad! Great watching you cast again with Take though <3
Niko_Thien
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany2671 Posts
October 15 2013 19:12 GMT
#65
On October 16 2013 04:05 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 04:04 Niko_Thien wrote:
On October 16 2013 03:57 Doublemint wrote:
On October 16 2013 03:56 75 wrote:
On October 16 2013 03:54 Doublemint wrote:
On October 16 2013 03:51 75 wrote:
so only mori is casting the finals? that is kinda bad, imo.

take+naruto did a great job today


This can't be true... why should they stop casting before the finals?

oh, sorry then.

i thought take just said that they cant cast the finals but would like to do so.


I don't know what they said as I did not pay attention to the stream but just generally that does not make sense to me... of course I could be wrong and you are right but I stand by it that it would not make any sense.

They weren't allowed to cast the in the last EPS cup so I would be (positively) surprised, if they would. But maybe Mori gets them to cocast on skype


I see, maybe a sponsorship thing. Still it would be pretty retarded...

It is pretty stupid, yeah. But check the statement that ESLdaniel gave in this thread earlier on, should explain a lot
@Niko_Thien on twitter!
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8516 Posts
October 15 2013 19:14 GMT
#66
On October 16 2013 04:12 Niko_Thien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 04:05 Doublemint wrote:
On October 16 2013 04:04 Niko_Thien wrote:
On October 16 2013 03:57 Doublemint wrote:
On October 16 2013 03:56 75 wrote:
On October 16 2013 03:54 Doublemint wrote:
On October 16 2013 03:51 75 wrote:
so only mori is casting the finals? that is kinda bad, imo.

take+naruto did a great job today


This can't be true... why should they stop casting before the finals?

oh, sorry then.

i thought take just said that they cant cast the finals but would like to do so.


I don't know what they said as I did not pay attention to the stream but just generally that does not make sense to me... of course I could be wrong and you are right but I stand by it that it would not make any sense.

They weren't allowed to cast the in the last EPS cup so I would be (positively) surprised, if they would. But maybe Mori gets them to cocast on skype


I see, maybe a sponsorship thing. Still it would be pretty retarded...

It is pretty stupid, yeah. But check the statement that ESLdaniel gave in this thread earlier on, should explain a lot


yeah, my mistake. Thought it was mainly about the format justpassingby asked about.
ESLdaniel
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany29 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-15 19:16:22
October 15 2013 19:15 GMT
#67
On October 16 2013 03:57 JustPassingBy wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 16 2013 03:19 ESLdaniel wrote:
We are using single elimination in almost all our pro-competitions nowadays. It's closer to 'real' sports, which makes it easier to understand if you are not an esport-enthusiast in the first place and it makes every single game more important.

Also, while one could argue about playoffs or tournaments of higher importance, I feel like double elimination would be too much for a weekly cup that is played online and has only a couple hundred Euros prizemoney. But that's just my personal opinion.


Well, I don't think it is right to count this as a weekly cup. Yes, it takes place every week, but only during a special season. You can't compare it to something like go4sc2 sunday, which I would say is a weekly cup.

But either way, I wonder what the opinion of the players are. I mean if they are against playing double elim, then there is no reason to play it. Though if they want to play double elim, then there is no reason not to play it (as I doubt that the casters will mind).


Still, it's a company-wide decision more or less to go for single elimination in our tournaments. Players would prefer a league-system or tripple-elim brackets and Bo15 (at least), I guess Because it basically eliminates upsets and surprises, which favors better players, but that also removes a very interesting part of a tournament. Something like today (Socke, Hasu, Tarra, Hanfy eliminated quite early) would be less likely to happen in a double elimination grid. Which would be nice for them and their fans, but I think the EPS cups are fun to watch regularly especially because you don't always see the same players in the semis every week.

I understand your point here, but I think there is no right or wrong answer to this question. There are pros and cons for both and you have to make a decision at some point. And ESL thinks, single elim serves the best for everyone, somehow.
http://www.twitter.com/ESL_daniel
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
October 15 2013 19:28 GMT
#68
That is Tarra casting with Mori, right? Sounds like him.
Niko_Thien
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany2671 Posts
October 15 2013 19:34 GMT
#69
On October 16 2013 04:28 JustPassingBy wrote:
That is Tarra casting with Mori, right? Sounds like him.

SHould be, yeah. I just switched to the stream, so I am not 100% sure
@Niko_Thien on twitter!
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
October 15 2013 19:35 GMT
#70
On October 16 2013 04:34 Niko_Thien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 04:28 JustPassingBy wrote:
That is Tarra casting with Mori, right? Sounds like him.

SHould be, yeah. I just switched to the stream, so I am not 100% sure


Thanks, Mori is not giving his cocasters credit on the overlay as always.
Niko_Thien
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany2671 Posts
October 15 2013 19:37 GMT
#71
On October 16 2013 04:35 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 04:34 Niko_Thien wrote:
On October 16 2013 04:28 JustPassingBy wrote:
That is Tarra casting with Mori, right? Sounds like him.

SHould be, yeah. I just switched to the stream, so I am not 100% sure


Thanks, Mori is not giving his cocasters credit on the overlay as always.

He wants all the dirty esports dollars for himself :D But tbh, yeah he should implement that on his overlay.
@Niko_Thien on twitter!
ClueClueClue
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1203 Posts
October 15 2013 20:13 GMT
#72
Holy check, what a sick templar/prism play!
Cogito, ergo toss.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8516 Posts
October 15 2013 20:57 GMT
#73
grats to showtime, too bad for Heromarine though. The guy would have deserved it too imho.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
October 15 2013 21:08 GMT
#74
On October 16 2013 05:57 Doublemint wrote:
grats to showtime, too bad for Heromarine though. The guy would have deserved it too imho.

He has always problems with last game of the qualifier
two times one map away to be in wcs top32 and here one victory away.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
October 22 2013 15:54 GMT
#75
I really hope that Revenge manages to edge himself into the playoffs in the remaining three qualifiers. Even though PvP became much better thanks to the Mothership Core and the Tempest, it would not hurt to see more Terrans during the live event.
Niko_Thien
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany2671 Posts
October 22 2013 15:55 GMT
#76
On October 23 2013 00:54 JustPassingBy wrote:
I really hope that Revenge manages to edge himself into the playoffs in the remaining three qualifiers. Even though PvP became much better thanks to the Mothership Core and the Tempest, it would not hurt to see more Terrans during the live event.

Yeah or terrans at all :D Even one would be great ^_^
@Niko_Thien on twitter!
TumNarDok
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany854 Posts
October 22 2013 16:03 GMT
#77
oO just saw that TLO joined the A-Series.
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
October 22 2013 16:47 GMT
#78
On October 23 2013 01:03 TumNarDok wrote:
oO just saw that TLO joined the A-Series.


that would be amazing! but if he has no games in the a-series it could be that theres no spot for him left in the cup.. so he might not be allowed to participate.
TumNarDok
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany854 Posts
October 22 2013 17:10 GMT
#79
Yep TLO confirmed. 6th place in A-series. First game vs Socke
Interesting to see him back compete locally

http://www.esl.eu/de/pro-series/winter_2013/sc2/cup3/rankings/
or
http://www.eslproseries.de/winter-2013/sc2-cup3/#Turnierbaum

Take announced Heromarine vs Salt for broadcast dunno about Mori.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-22 17:33:30
October 22 2013 17:30 GMT
#80
Wtf, Socke losing three cannons he could have cancelled...
edit: make that four

Also goody playing bio.
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