★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
19%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
16 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dear vs. Trap Game 1?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend Dear vs. Trap Game 2?
★★★ - Good game (12)
63%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
21%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
11%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
5%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
19 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dear vs. Trap Game 2?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend Dear vs. Trap Game 3?
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (13)
68%
★★★ - Good game (4)
21%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2)
11%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
19 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dear vs. Trap Game 3?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dear vs. Trap Game 4?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend Dear vs. Trap Game 5?
★★★ - Good game (5)
42%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
25%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2)
17%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
8%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
8%
12 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dear vs. Trap Game 5?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
2%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
2%
42 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Soulkey vs. Rain Game 1?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend Soulkey vs. Rain Game 2?
★★★ - Good game (19)
66%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
21%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2)
7%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
3%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
3%
29 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Soulkey vs. Rain Game 2?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend Soulkey vs. Rain Game 3?
★★★ - Good game (12)
43%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (11)
39%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (3)
11%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
4%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
4%
28 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Soulkey vs. Rain Game 3?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
38%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (4)
25%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
13%
★★★ - Good game (2)
13%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2)
13%
16 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Soulkey vs. Rain Game 4?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend Soulkey vs. Rain Game 5?
★★★ - Good game (8)
38%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (6)
29%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (3)
14%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
10%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2)
10%
21 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Soulkey vs. Rain Game 5?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
On October 01 2013 22:19 Amaril wrote: This RO8 will be painful to watch. Only 2 Terrans and they have to play each other -_-
Well most of the top terran is everywhere but in WCS KR (MMA, Polt, Teaja...)
The top protoss remain in KR, same for the top zerg.
MMA top terran? is this a joke? he improved lately a bit, but calling im a top terran is too much for me. Taeja and Polt.. Taeja yes, Polt you never know how much he is able to practice. So you´re basically wrong, most top Terrans are still in Korea (Maru, Innovation, Bomber, Flash, (Jjakji), Supernova, Keen) Just most of them were eliminated
On October 01 2013 22:19 Amaril wrote: This RO8 will be painful to watch. Only 2 Terrans and they have to play each other -_-
Well most of the top terran is everywhere but in WCS KR (MMA, Polt, Teaja...)
The top protoss remain in KR, same for the top zerg.
MMA top terran? is this a joke? he improved lately a bit, but calling im a top terran is too much for me. Taeja and Polt.. Taeja yes, Polt you never know how much he is able to practice. So you´re basically wrong, most top Terrans are still in Korea (Maru, Innovation, Bomber, Flash, (Jjakji), Keen) Just most of them were eliminated
MMA has almost returned. The fact that he plays macro games against toss should hint at that pretty well.
Blizzcon Qualification Probabilities If Trap wins then he has a 10.18% chance to qualify, if he loses it's 0.98%. If Dear wins he has a 6.98% chance, else 0.71%
Soulkey is 100% either way. If Rain wins then he has a 98.66% chance, else 26.32%. Rain apparently just needs to make it to the season finals, even if he loses in the first round of the season finals then he has a 93.85% chance.
omg so closeeeeeee http://aligulac.com/inference/match/?bo=5&ps=1659,177 Dear and Trap at the same ratings. Dear has a better winrate both now and recently but Trap has a better PvP winrate both now and recently. Except every time I say better, I mean barely better.
http://aligulac.com/inference/match/?bo=5&ps=45,7 Aligulac rates Soulkey higher than Rain but Rain has the better winrate both overall and in PvZ, both now and recently. He's also 4-2 against Soulkey historically.
PvP is already so meta, I'm so excited to see Dear and Trap face off. Well, mostly I'm pissed its a team kill and a Protoss has to be eliminated. But I do hope their games are brutal.
Soulkey vs Rain will be incredible. Calling it for Rain. If Rain wins then it's guaranteed a T1 player in the finals. Sucks that all T1 players are on the same half of the bracket though
On October 02 2013 16:48 lichter wrote: I still don't understand why DST is a thing
I agree so much. I always whine about DST, and people give me the usual vague reasons, but I don't buy a single one of them. It's bullshit, bullshit I tell you!
On October 02 2013 01:44 slowbacontron wrote: omg so closeeeeeee http://aligulac.com/inference/match/?bo=5&ps=1659,177 Dear and Trap at the same ratings. Dear has a better winrate both now and recently but Trap has a better PvP winrate both now and recently. Except every time I say better, I mean barely better.
http://aligulac.com/inference/match/?bo=5&ps=45,7 Aligulac rates Soulkey higher than Rain but Rain has the better winrate both overall and in PvZ, both now and recently. He's also 4-2 against Soulkey historically.
I'd prefer Trap to win this series. I really like his PvT and I think he has overall been playing better than Dear. But Dear is also really good so I wouldn't be sad if he wins.
On October 02 2013 18:06 Dark.Carnival wrote: I'd prefer Trap to win this series. I really like his PvT and I think he has overall been playing better than Dear. But Dear is also really good so I wouldn't be sad if he wins.
so we have a tvt and a pvp... when we could have two tvp's
ugh man srs. one thing killing starcraft 2 is all major tournaments have a chance of ending up getting sweet brackets (non mirrors), or lame brackets (mirrors). where as in league of legends at least the games there are more entertaining than PvP
so many dang mirrors nowadays
i know non mirrors can create mirrors as brackets go along, but jeeze... wasnt maru and jjakji in the same group? how the hell they fighting in ro8 now? ugh
On October 02 2013 18:12 Pandemona wrote: Scarlett and CranK advance to WCS AM Premier Season 2!
Is that even a thing? Is WCS going to be going next year? Dear floating 400+ apm...nicee
I'm not sure what you're asking, it says season 2 due to a mistake in the LR OP, should say Ro16, and I think it's safe to assume WCS will be going next year as well.
On October 02 2013 18:12 Pandemona wrote: Scarlett and CranK advance to WCS AM Premier Season 2!
Is that even a thing? Is WCS going to be going next year? Dear floating 400+ apm...nicee
I'm not sure what you're asking, it says season 2 due to a mistake in the LR OP, should say Ro16, and I think it's safe to assume WCS will be going next year as well.
I am not used to mistakes in OPs thus it was confusing!
On October 02 2013 18:13 rinnnedor321 wrote: so pissed at however this bracket system works
so we have a tvt and a pvp... when we could have two tvp's
ugh man srs. one thing killing starcraft 2 is all major tournaments have a chance of ending up getting sweet brackets (non mirrors), or lame brackets (mirrors). where as in league of legends at least the games there are more entertaining than PvP
so many dang mirrors nowadays
i know non mirrors can create mirrors as brackets go along, but jeeze... wasnt maru and jjakji in the same group? how the hell they fighting in ro8 now? ugh
On October 02 2013 18:12 Pandemona wrote: Scarlett and CranK advance to WCS AM Premier Season 2!
Is that even a thing? Is WCS going to be going next year? Dear floating 400+ apm...nicee
I'm not sure what you're asking, it says season 2 due to a mistake in the LR OP, should say Ro16, and I think it's safe to assume WCS will be going next year as well.
I am not used to mistakes in OPs thus it was confusing!
lichter needs a secretary so he won't make mistakes.
On October 02 2013 18:13 rinnnedor321 wrote: so pissed at however this bracket system works
so we have a tvt and a pvp... when we could have two tvp's
ugh man srs. one thing killing starcraft 2 is all major tournaments have a chance of ending up getting sweet brackets (non mirrors), or lame brackets (mirrors). where as in league of legends at least the games there are more entertaining than PvP
so many dang mirrors nowadays
i know non mirrors can create mirrors as brackets go along, but jeeze... wasnt maru and jjakji in the same group? how the hell they fighting in ro8 now? ugh
It can be a bit diffucult to enjoy PvP if you havent watched alot of sc2. The nice things about the match up are hidden deep in things like meta, tactics, mind games etc. If you want to try to enjoy it I would say Artosis is the best guy to guide us through it.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
19%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
16 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dear vs. Trap Game 1?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
On October 02 2013 18:13 rinnnedor321 wrote: so pissed at however this bracket system works
so we have a tvt and a pvp... when we could have two tvp's
ugh man srs. one thing killing starcraft 2 is all major tournaments have a chance of ending up getting sweet brackets (non mirrors), or lame brackets (mirrors). where as in league of legends at least the games there are more entertaining than PvP
so many dang mirrors nowadays
i know non mirrors can create mirrors as brackets go along, but jeeze... wasnt maru and jjakji in the same group? how the hell they fighting in ro8 now? ugh
It can be a bit diffucult to enjoy PvP if you havent watched alot of sc2. The nice things about the match up are hidden deep in things like meta, tactics, mind games etc. If you want to try to enjoy it I would say Artosis is the best guy to guide us through it.
PvP been better since HotS anyway. But in WoL especially most people didn't really appreciate the interesting parts of it because it was hard to understand. Hence that guide to PvP ahead of the Seed vs MC PvP Code S finals summer of 2012.
Then again those finals turned out to be relatively poor games anyway. :-\
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
21%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
11%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
5%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
19 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dear vs. Trap Game 2?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
I am asking this because I am not actually sure, should trap have skipped the robo and just added a 4th gate? even tho he would be behind at first, eventually he would catch up and you add ontop of that the Nexus Cannon. Or was robo the right choice?
On October 02 2013 18:31 SoFrOsTy wrote: I am asking this because I am not actually sure, should trap have skipped the robo and just added a 4th gate? even tho he would be behind at first, eventually he would catch up and you add ontop of that the Nexus Cannon. Or was robo the right choice?
Generally speaking you want Immortals out against Stalkers. Personally I feel Robo was the right choice. He needed more Immortals besides just that one though.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
21%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
11%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
5%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
19 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dear vs. Trap Game 2?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
i was gonna make a thread about it but I thought twice about it because it would probably just be another "starcraft is dying thread"
there really isn't much to discuss, them closing the house is expected if they're not going to play in Korean LAN team leagues. The only thing I'm surprised to see is hwanni gone. who will travel with the Korean EG players to events now?
On October 02 2013 18:32 nojok wrote: Purple stalkers blinking into blue stalkers.
Artosis' reaction : "It looks like.... hurrrr".
Imagine being colorblind! (Has Blizzard added decent colorblind support yet? It seems that Dice is the only company capable of getting that thing right.)
On October 02 2013 18:32 nojok wrote: Purple stalkers blinking into blue stalkers.
Artosis' reaction : "It looks like.... hurrrr".
Imagine being colorblind! (Has Blizzard added decent colorblind support yet? It seems that Dice is the only company capable of getting that thing right.)
Isn't cheeseheadlogic colourblind? It's fun to see him cast ZvZ..
On October 02 2013 18:34 gingerfluffmuff wrote: Can one say that the robo placement was incorrect and would have been better if it was in the back?
you could say that, but it didn't matter dear just had an overwhelming number of stalkers and would just blinked on top of the immortal instantly killing it.
On October 02 2013 18:40 75 wrote: why didnt trap produce more immortals?
He had no gas to do it. I was watching right after his first immortal popped out then died, he had only 48 gas and he was spending it on stalkers the moment he hit 50 gas every time.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
19 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dear vs. Trap Game 3?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend Dear vs. Trap Game 4?
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (5)
38%
★★★ - Good game (4)
31%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (3)
23%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
8%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dear vs. Trap Game 4?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend Dear vs. Trap Game 5?
★★★ - Good game (5)
42%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
25%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2)
17%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
8%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
8%
12 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dear vs. Trap Game 5?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
well a bit sad we don't get to see Trap PvT since it's usually very entertaining. Hopefully Dear continues to play well and doesn't fail miserably like he has been in GSTL :3
This Eternity Warriors II ad is so terrible I have trouble believing it's real. Can't they, like, hire Tasteless to do that voiceover? And copy edit, too?
Holy shit I thought I would at least catch some of match 1, can't believe it is over already.
Anyway it is main even time. My favourite toss player against one of the top zergs, as a zerg I am torn who to root for. Hopefully I get to see some epic games.
I hope the WJS drama doesn't throw SK off his game.
On October 02 2013 19:00 ASoo wrote: What the hell is this song? Why is GOM playing Christian rock?
... Catering to the american audience?
the 'mericans are too busy trying to get their government working to watch gsl
I, personally, am taking advantage of my newfound funemployment to stay up late watching gsl and sleep until 3pm tomorrow. God bless the US of A, brah.
Last game was very good, even as a terran! Loved the way those guys splitsecond forcefield ramps, even against dts. They know eachother pretty well. Also so nice to see lazerzz being owned from behind... Why no immortal-archon-chargelot play in WoL?
regarding the music, maybe the quality of the music for a GSL season matches the hype of the season? I think every awesome season has had good music to subconsciously associate with it.
On October 02 2013 19:05 Dodgin wrote: regarding the music, maybe the quality of the music for a GSL season matches the hype of the season? I think every awesome season has had good music to subconsciously associate with it.
On October 02 2013 19:07 ASoo wrote: I was hoping Artosis was going to say, "I think, safe to say, the worst commercial break music ever on the GOMTV stream." Oh, well.
I'm sure they've had worse songs. So many I've had to blank from my memory
On October 02 2013 19:07 ASoo wrote: I was hoping Artosis was going to say, "I think, safe to say, the worst commercial break music ever on the GOMTV stream." Oh, well.
I'm sure they've had worse songs. So many I've had to blank from my memory
The last two were merely bad. The awful Christian country/rock song before that was...awful. Like, really, stupendously awful. Like, I have heard substantial amounts of Christian rock which is noticeably better than that song.
On October 02 2013 19:07 heaveshade wrote: Notebook and pen is here, so is my body. Everything is ready, I am waiting for Mr Rain to give the promising class of Ultimate PvZ.
Your on a computer...and your going to be using a pen and piece of paper hmmmm
On October 02 2013 19:10 Pandemona wrote: 6W 1L vs P...wtf Soulkey clearly is the best Zerg right now, how on earth can you have that kind of win ratio vs P :S
pretty small sample size though, not sure how much you can conclude from that.
On October 02 2013 19:10 Pandemona wrote: 6W 1L vs P...wtf Soulkey clearly is the best Zerg right now, how on earth can you have that kind of win ratio vs P :S
pretty small sample size though, not sure how much you can conclude from that.
I guess, but it still is 7 matches of PvZ in Korea...not like any of those are pointless scrub protoss'. We all know the best 'toss are in Korea right now
OMG I am so excited for this match!!! I really like both players so much, but I feel Rain deserves a win. Soulkey has been doing so well lately that it is Rain's time to shine. But either way I seriously think the winner of this match will win the GSL.
On October 02 2013 19:16 Penguinator wrote: *Camera zooms in on gay couple* Tasteless: "WOW those are some handsome guys! We have a very handsome audience!" I laughed too hard for some reason...
On October 02 2013 19:16 JustPassingBy wrote: Hm... is it possible to cancel the hatch and plant a evolution chamber if one or two zealots are on your tail?
I think it gets destroyed directly again, so not really useful, also, you don't get creep block
Zealot: My love, all is lost! I am going to die soon, overwhelmed by evil zerglings as I attempt to take down this hatchery. MSC: Oh no, don't leave me so, Zealot! Zealot: Don't mourn, MSC, for I die a hero! MSC: I would give everything to have more time with you, everything for just a second longer... *casts Time Warp*
On October 02 2013 19:22 WigglingSquid wrote: The MSC and the Zealot, a Love Story.
Zealot: My love, all is lost! I am going to die soon, overwhelmed by evil zerglings as I attempt to take down this hatchery. MSC: Oh no, don't leave me so, Zealot! Zealot: Don't mourn, MSC, for I die a hero! MSC: I would give everything to have more time with you, everything for just a second longer... *casts Time Warp*
MSC recalls them both out of trouble and we get a happy ending
On October 02 2013 19:22 WigglingSquid wrote: The MSC and the Zealot, a Love Story.
Zealot: My love, all is lost! I am going to die soon, overwhelmed by evil zerglings as I attempt to take down this hatchery. MSC: Oh no, don't leave me so, Zealot! Zealot: Don't mourn, MSC, for I die a hero! MSC: I would give everything to have more time with you, everything for just a second longer... *casts Time Warp*
MSC recalls them both out of trouble and we get a happy ending
MSC didn't even enough mana, because her despotic, patriarchal Protoss father prevented her from warping in the battlefield for so long.
Rain falling farther and farther behind... Well, what do you expect, Soulkey managed to tech to the next level, while Rain is still on the ground composition.
What a fucking great game! Looking at this, you wouldn't think there is anything to complain about in sc2. So manye fights and runbys, beautiful positioning and army movement all game long. Really nice.
wow, such bad decision making by rain why does he keep warping in stalkers against this runby 3 dts and everything would have been sliced. i didn't like the way rain played this game.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
2%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
2%
42 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Soulkey vs. Rain Game 1?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
On October 02 2013 19:31 Undead1993 wrote: wow, such bad decision making by rain why does he keep warping in stalkers against this runby 3 dts and everything would have been sliced. i didn't like the way rain played this game.
Maybe he was gas starved and needed to make HT/Collo
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
2%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
2%
42 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Soulkey vs. Rain Game 1?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
On October 02 2013 19:31 Undead1993 wrote: wow, such bad decision making by rain why does he keep warping in stalkers against this runby 3 dts and everything would have been sliced. i didn't like the way rain played this game.
I don't think getting that 5th base again there would've been as big of a deal as Soulkey hadn't really mined much from it before his death push. And Soulkey had plenty of detection/static defenses at his other bases specifically for DT's. Not sure if he rebuilt that at his fifth after it was taken down the first time.
The only problem with PvZ is the first 6-8mins, it's normally so idle and you find yourself losing interested ;_; The rest of the match is awesome, but the start is oh so boring ;_;
On October 02 2013 19:31 Undead1993 wrote: wow, such bad decision making by rain why does he keep warping in stalkers against this runby 3 dts and everything would have been sliced. i didn't like the way rain played this game.
Maybe he was gas starved and needed to make HT/Collo
that's why he warped in 7 stalkers after he lost all the zealots :D:D just bad decision making and you can also make the dts to archons after they killed everything. quite useful as well. and ye targeting down the hatcheries and losing 3 warpprisms without doing anything losing them in the same spot over and over again, just a bit disappointed
Really sick play from Soulkey, I really like how he isn't wasteful with his units unlike some other zergs. Really retaining his midgame roaches, hydras to use for counter attacks in the lategame.
Good plays by Rain to try to take back the game after the offensive hatch.
On October 02 2013 19:35 Pandemona wrote: The only problem with PvZ is the first 6-8mins, it's normally so idle and you find yourself losing interested ;_; The rest of the match is awesome, but the start is oh so boring ;_;
Aside from when it turns to Collossus/Voids. I die a little inside whenever they go Collossus/Void.
On October 02 2013 19:35 Pandemona wrote: The only problem with PvZ is the first 6-8mins, it's normally so idle and you find yourself losing interested ;_; The rest of the match is awesome, but the start is oh so boring ;_;
Aside from when it turns to Collossus/Voids. I die a little inside whenever they go Collossus/Void.
Oh my Colli Voids, ur nightmare becomes a reality!
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
21%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2)
7%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
3%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
3%
29 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Soulkey vs. Rain Game 2?
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On October 02 2013 19:46 XtreMe_au wrote: Are protoss just absolutely sick of the supposed best protosses having massive brain farts and losing all the time?
On October 02 2013 19:46 XtreMe_au wrote: Are protoss just absolutely sick of the supposed best protosses having massive brain farts and losing all the time?
Extremely. Sometimes I just want to 1. Just support a fan favourite from another race and fuck my race forever 2. Quit watching protosses altogether.
I love protoss play when it's aggressive, fast-paced and smart, like how protosses in gstl play. But whenever our pros do things like this.....
On October 02 2013 19:46 XtreMe_au wrote: Are protoss just absolutely sick of the supposed best protosses having massive brain farts and losing all the time?
On October 02 2013 19:47 negativedge wrote: that really might tilt rain
I think everyone makes mistakes like that in big matches and considering how many games Rain has played it probably won't tilt him too much. Coaches will be telling him the same thing, just forget about it and move on to the next one. He knows he had Soulkey in that game and he can use that as a confidence boost for the next one.
A true Protoss fan accepts all the failings of the Protoss players. It validates us into believing that our race is basically flawed and worse than the others, and that Protoss hero's are beautiful shooting stars that are absolutely brilliant but always fade away.
On October 02 2013 19:51 Heartland wrote: A true Protoss fan accepts all the failings of the Protoss players. It validates us into believing that our race is basically flawed and worse than the others, and that Protoss hero's are beautiful shooting stars that are absolutely brilliant but always fade away.
The most important thing to take away from this is that HerO never faded away
On October 02 2013 19:51 Heartland wrote: A true Protoss fan accepts all the failings of the Protoss players. It validates us into believing that our race is basically flawed and worse than the others, and that Protoss hero's are beautiful shooting stars that are absolutely brilliant but always fade away.
I think you could argue that any race that forgets to bring along its critical units is worse than others.
On October 02 2013 19:51 PiPoGevy wrote: GIVE ME SOME EXCITEMENT!!!! These games are so boring man :\
Parting is coming, he will make the miracleexcitement.
the thread will be exciting when soO 3-0s him
Parting has been intentionally losing to Zerg for months now, building up to this moment. He will show us the new and improved Soul Train™ 3.0 and crush him 3-0.
I will still never admit that soo is a good player.
On October 02 2013 19:46 XtreMe_au wrote: Are protoss just absolutely sick of the supposed best protosses having massive brain farts and losing all the time?
On October 02 2013 19:51 Heartland wrote: A true Protoss fan accepts all the failings of the Protoss players. It validates us into believing that our race is basically flawed and worse than the others, and that Protoss hero's are beautiful shooting stars that are absolutely brilliant but always fade away.
Dear's got it don't worry. I don't like P but I think he will win this season in a PvP against Parting, because PvP is the only way P can win GSL's finals =)
Just watching the fight look hopeless for zerg. Colossus and stalkers bearing down on the swarm host line with forcefields in place. Then the observer's gone. Then you're wondering if zerg suddenly has a prayer. The one thing Rain could've done to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory he did.
On October 02 2013 19:51 Heartland wrote: A true Protoss fan accepts all the failings of the Protoss players. It validates us into believing that our race is basically flawed and worse than the others, and that Protoss hero's are beautiful shooting stars that are absolutely brilliant but always fade away.
Dear's got it don't worry. I don't like P but I think he will win this season in a PvP against Parting, because PvP is the only way P can win GSL's finals =)
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (11)
39%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (3)
11%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
4%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
4%
28 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Soulkey vs. Rain Game 3?
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Poll: Recommend Soulkey vs. Rain Game 4?
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
38%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (4)
25%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
13%
★★★ - Good game (2)
13%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2)
13%
16 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Soulkey vs. Rain Game 4?
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Poll: Recommend Soulkey vs. Rain Game 5?
★★★ - Good game (8)
38%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (6)
29%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (3)
14%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
10%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2)
10%
21 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Soulkey vs. Rain Game 5?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
well that was a beat down. i don't blame rain for doing a 2base on this map but the build he did wasn't the best if his plan was to all-in. even if he wanted to trick soulkey it still wasn't a good build to use D:
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (11)
39%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (3)
11%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
4%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
4%
28 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Soulkey vs. Rain Game 3?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend Soulkey vs. Rain Game 4?
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
38%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (4)
25%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
13%
★★★ - Good game (2)
13%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2)
13%
16 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Soulkey vs. Rain Game 4?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend Soulkey vs. Rain Game 5?
★★★ - Good game (8)
38%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (6)
29%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (3)
14%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
10%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2)
10%
21 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Soulkey vs. Rain Game 5?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
What a stomp. Soulkey was really on top of everything. Sad that Rain couldn't grab the win in g2 and choose DTs and Colossus allin in g1 and g3, instead of a solid macro game.
ugh Rain, I can't stand seeing this builds he often uses.. They are just so crap often. Way too safe in his macro games and his all-in builds are just not sharp enough. That timing was way too late and the whole 2 colossus build is just so slow compared to the classic immortal all-in. Soulkey played well though, dominated really.
On October 02 2013 20:42 Jer99 wrote: Can someone quickly recap all of the games today?
Dear vs Trap G1 : Double One base all-in into Dear advantage into Trap trying to expand into Dear victory G2 : Blink vs Blink into Dear victory G3 : Pretty nice macro game where Dear molested Trap with immo and prisms.
Rain vs Soulkey Double macro game with SH vs Colo/stalker into Soulkey winning all the time. Last game was a 2 base all-in by Rain which failed hardcore.
Code A was more interesting than Code S in my opinion. Still waiting for the Soulkey VODs to be uploaded though, I'll definitely at least skim through them.
Oh cool. new liquibet. Hopefully this time I can vote on more than 50% of the bets. Was quite horrible how fast you had to bet last season. And seems like I still missed some this season -_- 2/2 today and my hottest loss streak is 1 with 63% of the points made. Really strange :D
Yay, Soulkey! Also, group a > group b confirmed. I just hope that this whole WJS situation did not affect his mindset. Also, Soulkey fanboy mode engaged:
On October 02 2013 20:20 Dodgin wrote: I'm afraid to fact check this but I believe this is the smallest code s ro8 thread ever, by far.
lr community
and yes I know it was over fast, but still, some GSL finals have only lasted 2 hours and had 300+ pages.
Today was boring
also I slept
also next half of the Ro8 is much more interesting
Soulkey vs Rain is boring?!
I mean it ended up boring but that's just because watching Rain run around the map with his deathball is dull, not in theory it's exciting.
I've never found either of those players ZvP/PvZ to be super exciting. The matchup is exciting because both players are so good/well known, but their play in the matchup is sometimes dull.
On October 03 2013 00:08 NovaMB wrote: The soOjwa will show no mercy on PartinG.
Well, i am thinking about who will win Maru vs jjakji now.
Maru, jjakjis TvT isnt that good (but still better than Innovation) and Maru knows his TvT very well. I actually think Maru is going to back-to-back finals
Jjakji has two settings: Either he bombs out of GSL or he wins GSL. Be prepared for your next two time champ, and it's not gonna be Soulkey or Maru. WOOOOO
On October 03 2013 00:41 Darkhoarse wrote: Jjakji has two settings: Either he bombs out of GSL or he wins GSL. Be prepared for your next two time champ, and it's not gonna be Soulkey or Maru. WOOOOO
I am fine as long as Soulkey makes finals. Remember last time someone made back-to-back Code S finals. Yes, ex-Woongjin Stars player that was! P. S. Forgot to repeat: you cannot blame DRG for placing last in the True Group of Ro16 Death (other one possibly being group D if Maru and PartinG stomp their Ro8 (unlikely)).
Well, sounds like I did the right thing in having an early night. The games appear to have been largely unexceptional, but at least were over quickly. I did expect Soulkey to win, but a 3 - 0 stomp was unexpected. Rain... T_T
On October 02 2013 21:13 DarkLordOlli wrote: I'm ok with SC2 being a hipster game
Same. Although it is initially discouraging, if I'm being objective, I don't really have anything to complain with the current state of SCII.
Tournaments are still quite common (more common than ever with WCS) and have strong prize pools. There are still tons of interesting players with very high level skills. There is still excellent community content, specifically Team Liquid coverage. The game itself is viewed by many to being more entertaining than before. Even with shorter LR threads, it just means I don't have to read as much to get the gist of what happened. (Sorry, I'm not as passionate/dedicated as you fine LR folks. : ( )
For me personally, the only thing that makes being a StarCraft fan less pleasing than before is reading all the negativity in threads.
SCII is no longer the pinnacle of esports, but most of what we love about it has remained unchanged , so why not focus on what we have in a strong community with a stable game.
On October 02 2013 20:20 Dodgin wrote: I'm afraid to fact check this but I believe this is the smallest code s ro8 thread ever, by far.
lr community
and yes I know it was over fast, but still, some GSL finals have only lasted 2 hours and had 300+ pages.
Not enough esf/kespa baiting
The wall is down, nobody feel the urge to fight anymore. No fight, no passion.
it make sense. None of these four has huge fanboy. Who would wanna watch dear vs trap. I know they have great skills. But I just simple don't know them. You can see only 6 pages for a semifinal between dear and trap. While the soulkey vs rain match is ok, but still not enough fans.
On October 02 2013 21:13 DarkLordOlli wrote: I'm ok with SC2 being a hipster game
Same. Although it is initially discouraging, if I'm being objective, I don't really have anything to complain with the current state of SCII.
Tournaments are still quite common (more common than ever with WCS) and have strong prize pools. There are still tons of interesting players with very high level skills. There is still excellent community content, specifically Team Liquid coverage. The game itself is viewed by many to being more entertaining than before. Even with shorter LR threads, it just means I don't have to read as much to get the gist of what happened. (Sorry, I'm not as passionate/dedicated as you fine LR folks. : ( )
For me personally, the only thing that makes being a StarCraft fan less pleasing than before is reading all the negativity in threads.
SCII is no longer the pinnacle of esports, but most of what we love about it has remained unchanged , so why not focus on what we have in a strong community with a stable game.
This is pretty much exactly how I feel. It would suck if some day tournaments no longer felt like SC2 was worth the time, but goddamn it, stuff like World of Tanks still has tournaments, and look at BW, crawling along like a zombie. We're a niche now, but I don't mind that.
On October 02 2013 21:13 DarkLordOlli wrote: I'm ok with SC2 being a hipster game
Same. Although it is initially discouraging, if I'm being objective, I don't really have anything to complain with the current state of SCII.
Tournaments are still quite common (more common than ever with WCS) and have strong prize pools. There are still tons of interesting players with very high level skills. There is still excellent community content, specifically Team Liquid coverage. The game itself is viewed by many to being more entertaining than before. Even with shorter LR threads, it just means I don't have to read as much to get the gist of what happened. (Sorry, I'm not as passionate/dedicated as you fine LR folks. : ( )
For me personally, the only thing that makes being a StarCraft fan less pleasing than before is reading all the negativity in threads.
SCII is no longer the pinnacle of esports, but most of what we love about it has remained unchanged , so why not focus on what we have in a strong community with a stable game.
The difference is that Sc2 had everything a new game could ask for (a huge fan base even before the game came out) and managed it to throw it out just with a mediocre/boring-in-the-long-run design.
On October 03 2013 05:50 Belha wrote: Aaaand PvZ strikes back.... There will never be a P champion as long there is a Bo5 or Bo7 vs Z in the P way to victory.
Yeah, right, totally imba for Z.. oh wait, winrates suggest that it is pretty balanced. Ever thought that your great P players are just crumble under pressure?
On October 03 2013 05:50 Belha wrote: Aaaand PvZ strikes back.... There will never be a P champion as long there is a Bo5 or Bo7 vs Z in the P way to victory.
Yeah, right, totally imba for Z.. oh wait, winrates suggest that it is pretty balanced. Ever thought that your great P players are just crumble under pressure?
Rain crumbles under pressure, It's sad because he could have been the one
On October 03 2013 05:50 Belha wrote: Aaaand PvZ strikes back.... There will never be a P champion as long there is a Bo5 or Bo7 vs Z in the P way to victory.
Yeah, right, totally imba for Z.. oh wait, winrates suggest that it is pretty balanced. Ever thought that your great P players are just crumble under pressure?
Rain crumbles under pressure, It's sad because he could have been the one
It's okay though, Sora is coming.
We could have San as the one too ^_^. At least he 2-0'd Soulkey, and did not get 2-0'd like PartinG or (essentially) Rain.
On October 03 2013 05:50 Belha wrote: Aaaand PvZ strikes back.... There will never be a P champion as long there is a Bo5 or Bo7 vs Z in the P way to victory.
Yeah, right, totally imba for Z.. oh wait, winrates suggest that it is pretty balanced. Ever thought that your great P players are just crumble under pressure?
Rain crumbles under pressure, It's sad because he could have been the one
On October 03 2013 05:50 Belha wrote: Aaaand PvZ strikes back.... There will never be a P champion as long there is a Bo5 or Bo7 vs Z in the P way to victory.
Yeah, right, totally imba for Z.. oh wait, winrates suggest that it is pretty balanced. Ever thought that your great P players are just crumble under pressure?
I CALL WINRATES ! WNRATESSSSSSS ! they're undeniable universal truth aren't they?
On October 03 2013 05:50 Belha wrote: Aaaand PvZ strikes back.... There will never be a P champion as long there is a Bo5 or Bo7 vs Z in the P way to victory.
Yeah, right, totally imba for Z.. oh wait, winrates suggest that it is pretty balanced. Ever thought that your great P players are just crumble under pressure?
Then I suggest you watch 'winrates' in the future instead of tournaments, as tournaments are boring as eff. And the assumption that players of a certain race overperform or underperform consistently over years again and again and again betrays a moron with no clue about statistics whatsoever.
On October 03 2013 05:50 Belha wrote: Aaaand PvZ strikes back.... There will never be a P champion as long there is a Bo5 or Bo7 vs Z in the P way to victory.
Yeah, right, totally imba for Z.. oh wait, winrates suggest that it is pretty balanced. Ever thought that your great P players are just crumble under pressure?
Then I suggest you watch 'winrates' in the future instead of tournaments, as tournaments are boring as eff. And the assumption that players of a certain race overperform or underperform consistently over years again and again and again betrays a moron with no clue about statistics whatsoever.
On October 03 2013 05:50 Belha wrote: Aaaand PvZ strikes back.... There will never be a P champion as long there is a Bo5 or Bo7 vs Z in the P way to victory.
Yeah, right, totally imba for Z.. oh wait, winrates suggest that it is pretty balanced. Ever thought that your great P players are just crumble under pressure?
Then I suggest you watch 'winrates' in the future instead of tournaments, as tournaments are boring as eff. And the assumption that players of a certain race overperform or underperform consistently over years again and again and again betrays a moron with no clue about statistics whatsoever.
I do watch tournaments and for me PvZ is one of the best MUs to watch, that lately produces amazingly entertaining games (well, unless it is PartinG playing, since he will do everything fine and then will do something terrible). Also, race underperforming for years only tells me that it is played by Clidess instead of Mvps (yep, referencing Ts here :D). And yes, your whine about toss does not help either ^_^
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