• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:48
CEST 03:48
KST 10:48
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4)5TL.net Map Contest #21 - Finalists4Team TLMC #5: Vote to Decide Ladder Maps!0[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Mile High15
Community News
PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition215.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version)94$2,500 WardiTV TL Map Contest Tournament 151Stellar Fest: StarCraft II returns to Canada11Weekly Cups (Sept 22-28): MaxPax double, Zerg wins, PTR12
StarCraft 2
General
PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition 5.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version) ZvT - Army Composition - Slow Lings + Fast Banes Stellar Fest: StarCraft II returns to Canada Had to smile :)
Tourneys
Stellar Fest $2,500 WardiTV TL Map Contest Tournament 15 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LANified! 37: Groundswell, BYOC LAN, Nov 28-30 2025 Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 493 Quick Killers Mutation # 492 Get Out More Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight
Brood War
General
[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On BarrackS' ASL S20 Ro.8 Review&Power of Friendship Question regarding recent ASL Bisu vs Larva game BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Thoughts on rarely used units
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro8 Day 4 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Ro8 Day 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
TvZ Theorycraft - Improving on State of the Art Current Meta I am doing this better than progamers do. Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts The Automated Ban List BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final
Blogs
[AI] From Comfort Women to …
Peanutsc
Mental Health In Esports: Wo…
TrAiDoS
Try to reverse getting fired …
Garnet
[ASL20] Players bad at pi…
pullarius1
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1256 users

[WCS EU] Finals Day 2 Premier Season 2 2013 - Page 81

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 79 80 81 82 83 179 Next
Ok, the finals are on now. Stop derailing with complaints about WCS region system! - Begin page 109
pigmanbear
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Angola2010 Posts
August 11 2013 15:12 GMT
#1601
On August 12 2013 00:11 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:08 pigmanbear wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:07 Nerchio wrote:
I will never understand why they allow grubby to use his own headphones, i doubt they shut down the environment sound as well as those that are used at every tournament

It's called a handicap


Should use the ones I've seen they have in Korea where the coach can speak to the player without taking them off.

Yes but they are in booths.
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
August 11 2013 15:12 GMT
#1602
On August 12 2013 00:10 Valikyr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:07 Facultyadjutant wrote:
ARE YOU GUYS READY FOR THE MOST ANTI-CLIMATIC 4GATE WIN FROM DUCKDUCK?

Cannon rush.

then he would deserve the win
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
August 11 2013 15:12 GMT
#1603
On August 12 2013 00:10 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:07 Nerchio wrote:
I will never understand why they allow grubby to use his own headphones, i doubt they shut down the environment sound as well as those that are used at every tournament


Then report this to IEM ? I don't know why you think placing it here is going to help.
If you think Grubby is cheating and hearing to much you as a pro player should contact IEM instead of insinuating things on a forum.


Because it's more fun to cause random drama on TL. Same reason he balance whines when he loses.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
August 11 2013 15:12 GMT
#1604
C'mon duckdeok! Gogogo. :D
Long live the King of Wings
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
August 11 2013 15:12 GMT
#1605
On August 12 2013 00:10 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:08 Darkhoarse wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:07 Nerchio wrote:
I will never understand why they allow grubby to use his own headphones, i doubt they shut down the environment sound as well as those that are used at every tournament

So are you accusing him of something or...?


He's questioning the tournament organizers decision. Giving the players the opportunity to cheat is not a good thing, even if it's Grubby, White-Ra or Boxer in the booth.


Didn't the staff test it out before the game? At least this guy had his headphones on while casters talked etc. I'm pretty sure they'd know if it wasnt soundproof enough.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
August 11 2013 15:12 GMT
#1606
Let's not make controversy where none exists.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Lorizean
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1330 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 15:13:09
August 11 2013 15:12 GMT
#1607
On August 12 2013 00:10 Sissors wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:08 LiamBrady wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:07 Nerchio wrote:
I will never understand why they allow grubby to use his own headphones, i doubt they shut down the environment sound as well as those that are used at every tournament

I was wondering this as well. Surely he can hear a little too much

Surely they tested it beforehand? (And looked at the specs).

I think you might come with better proof before accusing Grubby of cheating...

(And yes, that is accusing him of cheating. If he would have said something like: "Do they dampen sound as good as the official headphones?", then it would have been fine. But saying he surely can hear too much is pointless accusation).


I actually used to own that headset (Sennheiser something if I recognize it correctly) and they cancel noise very well. I actually got different ones because I couldn't hear it when people came into my room and started talking to me
I also have some noice cancelling headphones (for shooting) and while I never compared them directly, I don't think that they filtered out much more noise.
Raygun
Profile Joined August 2010
348 Posts
August 11 2013 15:12 GMT
#1608
I don't get why pros don't always scout for hidden bases when they get ahead.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
August 11 2013 15:12 GMT
#1609
On August 12 2013 00:07 Diogenes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:04 FeyFey wrote:
so yeah the 3rd base wasn't needed right ? But who would think about a 3rd of the opponent in this situation.


It was still the wrong decision by far. If Grubby cancels, he has an extra 300 minerals to defend with and that fight was really close. Not losing the natural would've given Grubby just as big a lead economically as the hidden 3rd.


Really I would have probably done exactly this in this situation, simply because I had no way to defend my natural in either case, so would have sacked it and tried to hold the ramp, hoping the opponent would concentrate on my harassment and the contain on the ramp.

Sigh I wish Red City would have been played more, it was such a nice map for Protoss.
KingAlphard
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Italy1705 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 15:13:51
August 11 2013 15:13 GMT
#1610
On August 12 2013 00:07 Sissors wrote:
If Grubby is seriously going to suicide his MsC for the 4th time in a row next game I am going to cry.

Really Grubby, two games in a row lost pretty much due to suiciding your MsC, and what do you do the next game? You leave behind your MsC right when your army retreats for no reason I can think of.

Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:07 Diogenes wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:04 FeyFey wrote:
so yeah the 3rd base wasn't needed right ? But who would think about a 3rd of the opponent in this situation.


It was still the wrong decision by far. If Grubby cancels, he has an extra 300 minerals to defend with and that fight was really close. Not losing the natural would've given Grubby just as big a lead economically as the hidden 3rd.

I don't see how 3 zealots would have changed that fight significantly.


Actually in my opinion he shouldn't have built it at all since he was already 2 bases vs 1. Also yes. 4 zealots can make the difference in engagements of ~50 army supply per side. Well, after all that expansion was probably a better choice, but if only duckdeok checked it it would have been game over, so it was very risky.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10131 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 15:13:30
August 11 2013 15:13 GMT
#1611
Finale 4gate him for the most anticlimatic ending to the series and funniest LR answers here.
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
August 11 2013 15:13 GMT
#1612
Gogo duck!!
#TheOneTrueDong
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
August 11 2013 15:13 GMT
#1613
On August 12 2013 00:12 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:10 DJHelium wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:08 Darkhoarse wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:07 Nerchio wrote:
I will never understand why they allow grubby to use his own headphones, i doubt they shut down the environment sound as well as those that are used at every tournament

So are you accusing him of something or...?


He's questioning the tournament organizers decision. Giving the players the opportunity to cheat is not a good thing, even if it's Grubby, White-Ra or Boxer in the booth.


Didn't the staff test it out before the game? At least this guy had his headphones on while casters talked etc. I'm pretty sure they'd know if it wasnt soundproof enough.


I have no clue, just explaining how it's not accusing Grubby of something, but criticizing ESL.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Bowzar
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden741 Posts
August 11 2013 15:13 GMT
#1614
On August 12 2013 00:12 Adreme wrote:
Is this the most views a PvP has ever gotten? (actually asking seriously)

WCS finals got more I think.
Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
August 11 2013 15:13 GMT
#1615
The point is even if the heapdhones cancelling is alright, everybody should have the same conditions to play so when everybody is using headphones provided by tournament organizers(not only here but everywhere) Grubby should as well. Especially since the "ESL" headphones are really uncomfortable
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
August 11 2013 15:13 GMT
#1616
People seem to forget this is ESL, who have been running successful tournaments for years before SC2 even came out... does anyone here really think they'd not account for that possibility before okay-ing Grubby and letting him play? -_-
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 11 2013 15:13 GMT
#1617
On August 12 2013 00:13 TommyP wrote:
Gogo duck!!

no
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
August 11 2013 15:14 GMT
#1618
Stargate for Finale we're safe from the worst possible ending to the series.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
August 11 2013 15:14 GMT
#1619
Sentry first, very thorough proxy scout, Grubby is nervous.
Kihshra
Profile Joined July 2012
178 Posts
August 11 2013 15:14 GMT
#1620
On August 12 2013 00:07 Nerchio wrote:
I will never understand why they allow grubby to use his own headphones, i doubt they shut down the environment sound as well as those that are used at every tournament

You should ask them when you get into Premier League. Oh wait, you won't.
Prev 1 79 80 81 82 83 179 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 8h 12m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 180
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 4237
ggaemo 52
NaDa 31
sorry 10
Icarus 3
Dota 2
LuMiX2
League of Legends
JimRising 623
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K826
Super Smash Bros
AZ_Axe182
Mew2King44
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor170
Other Games
summit1g9649
C9.Mang0401
ViBE130
XaKoH 108
UpATreeSC98
JuggernautJason12
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick673
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• Ler66
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
8h 12m
BSL Team Wars
17h 12m
Team Bonyth vs Team Dewalt
Dewalt vs kogeT
JDConan vs Tarson
RaNgeD vs DragOn
StRyKeR vs Bonyth
Aeternum vs Hejek
IPSL
17h 12m
DragOn vs Fear
Radley vs eOnzErG
Replay Cast
1d 8h
Map Test Tournament
2 days
Map Test Tournament
3 days
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Map Test Tournament
4 days
Map Test Tournament
5 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
5 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Map Test Tournament
6 days
OSC
6 days
[BSL 2025] Weekly
6 days
Safe House 2
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
Maestros of the Game
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
Acropolis #4 - TS2
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
EC S1
ESL Pro League S22
Frag Blocktober 2025
Urban Riga Open #1
FERJEE Rush 2025
Birch Cup 2025
DraculaN #2
LanDaLan #3
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
WardiTV TLMC #15
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.