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[WCS EU] Finals Day 2 Premier Season 2 2013 - Page 73

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Ok, the finals are on now. Stop derailing with complaints about WCS region system! - Begin page 109
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
August 11 2013 15:03 GMT
#1441
I didn't think that was possible. Did duckdeok engage too much at the ramp? Seems like he could have kited pretty much forever.
Sandermatt
Profile Joined December 2010
Switzerland1365 Posts
August 11 2013 15:03 GMT
#1442
And the casters thought the expansion was a missinvestment ;-)
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
August 11 2013 15:03 GMT
#1443
On August 12 2013 00:00 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
gg grubby


I will eat my shoe now...
I am Godzilla You are Japan
WhurreOdu
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1739 Posts
August 11 2013 15:03 GMT
#1444
That is really insane!
Fut am Bam
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
August 11 2013 15:03 GMT
#1445
grubby stop playing with my heart!!
@QxGDarkCell ._.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
August 11 2013 15:03 GMT
#1446
On August 12 2013 00:02 pigmanbear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:01 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:59 pigmanbear wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:56 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:54 Zealously wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:51 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:49 Darkhoarse wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:47 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:45 Teoita wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:43 pigmanbear wrote:
[quote]
Maru has been in GSL since very early, and was the youngest player in GSL. He has had good results for a long time. I would always pick a player like that over somebody newer to the game.

Now you call me a fanboy? Jesus you're bad at debating, or whatever you call it.


Sun was an A teamer in Proleague for a long time too you know. Plus, you know, he was winning titles one year ago...


Exactly.

It's hard to bring a decent argument when you don't know what you're talking about.... "oh but Maru is so young etc etc" yeah while Maru was busy struggling to survive in Code S ro32, FlaSh and Life were winning the most prestigious championships when they were his age.

I think it is fairly undisputed that Rain was the favorite. He won the previous OSL, has had more success in WCS/GSL than Maru (despite the shorter tenure) and provided constant results throughout Proleague which was the hardest competition in SC2. I believe he finished second in wins behind Flash? or maybe third behind Innovation as well.

I was rooting for Maru, but I knew he was the underdog.


Yeah. Like maybe pigmanbear got too eager in his fanboyness and misunderstood. Maru's achievement this season of OSL is absolutely incredible and praise-worthy. But let's not pretend he was some god-tier Terran all along...


I agree, at least partly. Maru had the potential to be a god-tier Terran all along, but he's been struggling with consistency since forever. If you watch some of his older games, you'll find one game or one play among many where he just goes two levels up for no apparent reason. I'm hesitant to call it nerves, but the ability was always there. He just managed to finally get it together this season.

I know this is very close to splitting hairs, but one needs to know this before saying Maru suddenly became good out of nowhere.


But that's pretty much every Korean for the past 2 years ever (since the terrible ones started falling out of GSL in 2011). Most of them have the potential to be the best. That's why we have so many GSL/WCS KR champions and also so many players that make it very far but never quite win.

Like I agree, but you can argue for pretty much every top player of recent times that he has and has had the potential to be god-tier.

You can white-wash it all you want but talents like Leenock, Maru, and Taeja are a world apart from guys like San.


But are they a world apart from guys like Curious, aLive, Creator, GuMiHo etc? All of them have shown tremendous potential, but not all of them have translated that into the same kind of success. There's a lot more talent than you seem to think.

Yes, apart from Alive maybe.

Alive has been much better than Creator in HotS.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
August 11 2013 15:03 GMT
#1447
It was clear if Grubby can defend, Duckdeok is gonna lose. Zealots did so much dmg on the expansion.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Jeremyy
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada182 Posts
August 11 2013 15:03 GMT
#1448
grubby pulling ahead 5 mins after idra would have left
Where's the pleasure in that?
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5224 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 15:04:15
August 11 2013 15:03 GMT
#1449
You lose your MSC, then you don't have Archons to break forcefields, then you morph Archons in front of Duckduck's army, but since you went for a third at the worst time, if you win the fight, you win the game apparently?
JSon
Profile Joined February 2012
United States56 Posts
August 11 2013 15:03 GMT
#1450
What the actual fuck
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
August 11 2013 15:03 GMT
#1451
Phew. Thought Grubby was doing a fantasy gg timing but then he takes the win, gg :D
-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1219 Posts
August 11 2013 15:03 GMT
#1452
WHO SAID PvP WAS BORING..................WHO????
~~(,,ºº>
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 11 2013 15:03 GMT
#1453
Duckdeok is like "lets micro against the nexus on the lowground" and gives Grubby enough time to re-compose his army and get enough units. Did cost him the game so badly. GOGO Grubby!! For Europe! :D
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Siphonn
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States298 Posts
August 11 2013 15:04 GMT
#1454
Why do people now say "throw" everytime a player loses? Players have leads, players lose leads....that is the way the game works. Grubby still had mining, while duckdeok didn't.
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
August 11 2013 15:04 GMT
#1455
My favorite game of throws
Aven
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands392 Posts
August 11 2013 15:04 GMT
#1456
you've gotta be kidding me
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
August 11 2013 15:04 GMT
#1457
so yeah the 3rd base wasn't needed right ? But who would think about a 3rd of the opponent in this situation.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 11 2013 15:04 GMT
#1458
Grubby my heart what are you doing plz win
Neosteel Enthusiast
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
August 11 2013 15:04 GMT
#1459
On August 12 2013 00:03 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:00 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
gg grubby


I will eat my shoe now...

everyone will lol
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
pigmanbear
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Angola2010 Posts
August 11 2013 15:04 GMT
#1460
On August 12 2013 00:03 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:02 pigmanbear wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:01 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:59 pigmanbear wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:56 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:54 Zealously wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:51 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:49 Darkhoarse wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:47 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:45 Teoita wrote:
[quote]

Sun was an A teamer in Proleague for a long time too you know. Plus, you know, he was winning titles one year ago...


Exactly.

It's hard to bring a decent argument when you don't know what you're talking about.... "oh but Maru is so young etc etc" yeah while Maru was busy struggling to survive in Code S ro32, FlaSh and Life were winning the most prestigious championships when they were his age.

I think it is fairly undisputed that Rain was the favorite. He won the previous OSL, has had more success in WCS/GSL than Maru (despite the shorter tenure) and provided constant results throughout Proleague which was the hardest competition in SC2. I believe he finished second in wins behind Flash? or maybe third behind Innovation as well.

I was rooting for Maru, but I knew he was the underdog.


Yeah. Like maybe pigmanbear got too eager in his fanboyness and misunderstood. Maru's achievement this season of OSL is absolutely incredible and praise-worthy. But let's not pretend he was some god-tier Terran all along...


I agree, at least partly. Maru had the potential to be a god-tier Terran all along, but he's been struggling with consistency since forever. If you watch some of his older games, you'll find one game or one play among many where he just goes two levels up for no apparent reason. I'm hesitant to call it nerves, but the ability was always there. He just managed to finally get it together this season.

I know this is very close to splitting hairs, but one needs to know this before saying Maru suddenly became good out of nowhere.


But that's pretty much every Korean for the past 2 years ever (since the terrible ones started falling out of GSL in 2011). Most of them have the potential to be the best. That's why we have so many GSL/WCS KR champions and also so many players that make it very far but never quite win.

Like I agree, but you can argue for pretty much every top player of recent times that he has and has had the potential to be god-tier.

You can white-wash it all you want but talents like Leenock, Maru, and Taeja are a world apart from guys like San.


But are they a world apart from guys like Curious, aLive, Creator, GuMiHo etc? All of them have shown tremendous potential, but not all of them have translated that into the same kind of success. There's a lot more talent than you seem to think.

Yes, apart from Alive maybe.

Alive has been much better than Creator in HotS.

... you didn't read what he wrote did you. I was saying Alive was the only guy in that group with anywhere near the same talent. Leenock, Maru et al stand out because they could do things that made your jaw drop.
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