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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
July 25 2013 11:14 GMT
#921
On July 25 2013 20:13 Erraa93 wrote:
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On July 25 2013 20:12 Wintex wrote:
[image loading]

It's time to get the fuck outta OSL, First.
The time for my Bomber has come!


Oh here he is

Pfew, didn't feel the same without the rampant fanboyism.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
July 25 2013 11:14 GMT
#922
On July 25 2013 20:12 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
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On July 25 2013 20:10 Erraa93 wrote:
On July 25 2013 20:09 TheDwf wrote:
On July 25 2013 20:08 Daogin wrote:
wow didnt expect rain to almost get knocked

People always underrate SuperNova for some reason.

The games were ordinary, SN did play well of course.


Supernova is like that.

He's always been like the lv 6 (or mid-tier) boss of a game. The guy who bitchslaps you with your first game over for thinking the game is too easy >_>. Good but never great.

Bogus for comparison is like the scripted boss fight you're not supposed to win.


Pre-nerf Lady Vashj
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3360 Posts
July 25 2013 11:14 GMT
#923
On July 25 2013 20:11 Chr15t wrote:
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On July 25 2013 20:09 NarutO wrote:
On July 25 2013 20:07 pmp10 wrote:
On July 25 2013 20:04 Chr15t wrote:
On July 25 2013 20:03 Kommander wrote:
On July 25 2013 20:02 NarutO wrote:
For the sake of Terran, Bomber go 0-3


You want Bomber to lose 0-3? :p

To avoid the Blizz-Hammer i guess :D

Unless Innovations wrists explode the hammer is coming for terran anyway.
Might as well get it over with and spare ourselves listening to the complains.


Yeah drop the hammer on the race that wins 43,4% of their games in the match up, because one player is outstanding. Legit

Please guys - if i would have known my innocent joke would have stirred up more balance disscussions i would have keep quiet Sooooorry

Sorry.
I kinda hijacked your joke.
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
July 25 2013 11:14 GMT
#924
On July 25 2013 20:12 Raambo11 wrote:
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On July 25 2013 20:11 Sissors wrote:
On July 25 2013 20:10 Raambo11 wrote:
On July 25 2013 20:09 NarutO wrote:
On July 25 2013 20:07 pmp10 wrote:
On July 25 2013 20:04 Chr15t wrote:
On July 25 2013 20:03 Kommander wrote:
On July 25 2013 20:02 NarutO wrote:
For the sake of Terran, Bomber go 0-3


You want Bomber to lose 0-3? :p

To avoid the Blizz-Hammer i guess :D

Unless Innovations wrists explode the hammer is coming for terran anyway.
Might as well get it over with and spare ourselves listening to the complains.


Yeah drop the hammer on the race that wins 43,4% of their games in the match up, because one player is outstanding. Legit


Ghost was basically nerfed because of MVP, one player

Afaik thor removal of energy in WoL was also reverted because of one terran player, dunno which one though.


I think it was Thorzain


Pretty sure it was Happy, the russian one, I still remember he's 50+ minutes games on shuttered temple with mass ghost versus any type of zerg army. And he managed to win those won, using a lot of snipeshots.
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Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
July 25 2013 11:14 GMT
#925
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plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
July 25 2013 11:15 GMT
#926
Looking forward to Bomber play. Definitely a Terran veteran who is still trucking on.
paradoxOO9
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1123 Posts
July 25 2013 11:15 GMT
#927
I love Bomber, but as I said in a thread the other day Firsts PvT is incredible so I have to side with him. I am definitely expecting a couple of lazy SCV pulls this game just because.
Raambo11
Profile Joined April 2011
United States828 Posts
July 25 2013 11:15 GMT
#928
On July 25 2013 20:13 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 20:11 NarutO wrote:
On July 25 2013 20:10 bo1b wrote:
On July 25 2013 20:09 NarutO wrote:
On July 25 2013 20:07 pmp10 wrote:
On July 25 2013 20:04 Chr15t wrote:
On July 25 2013 20:03 Kommander wrote:
On July 25 2013 20:02 NarutO wrote:
For the sake of Terran, Bomber go 0-3


You want Bomber to lose 0-3? :p

To avoid the Blizz-Hammer i guess :D

Unless Innovations wrists explode the hammer is coming for terran anyway.
Might as well get it over with and spare ourselves listening to the complains.


Yeah drop the hammer on the race that wins 43,4% of their games in the match up, because one player is outstanding. Legit

Pretty likely that some nerf is coming towards tvz


51,x % for Zerg with Flash on 10 winstreak and INnoVation with another 80% of Terran wins, I think besides those two, there is no outstanding Terran that is balance breaking in TvZ, am I wrong on that one?

I don't think it will matter if your wrong or right at this point tbh, proleague is 65% tvz, terran shat on zerg this osl etc. Right or wrong some sort of buff for zerg/nerf for terran is probably coming.



Its funny how different the results in top tournaments are vs how balance is on ladder. Blizz doesn't seem to really care about ladder balance, or they model it off GSL balance. If a race is doing extremely well in GSL they will be nerfed, much as Terran was repeatedly nerfed during GomTVT
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 25 2013 11:15 GMT
#929
On July 25 2013 20:15 paradoxOO9 wrote:
I love Bomber, but as I said in a thread the other day Firsts PvT is incredible so I have to side with him. I am definitely expecting a couple of lazy SCV pulls this game just because.

Bombers tvp is pretty good though :D
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 25 2013 11:15 GMT
#930
When will the placement matches be played, by the way?
PerSe
Profile Joined June 2013
United Kingdom550 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 11:16:31
July 25 2013 11:15 GMT
#931
The whole Flash + Inno distorting TvZ stats is not the best argument imo, you could just as easily say Zerg stats are being buffed by Soulkey and Symbol.

Though yeah, gotta admit that it's only SK really that's been a really exceptional zerg so far..
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51500 Posts
July 25 2013 11:16 GMT
#932
he said scrims instead of practice games -_- that lol terminology
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Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
July 25 2013 11:16 GMT
#933
On July 25 2013 20:14 Emzeeshady wrote:
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On July 25 2013 20:07 Tobblish wrote:
On July 25 2013 20:05 Emzeeshady wrote:
On July 25 2013 20:04 iNsaNe- wrote:
On July 25 2013 19:56 Emzeeshady wrote:
Good, back to mediocrity for Supernova until another lucky season.


Meh, I just hate statements like this. He won his ro32 and ro16 groups in the most difficult SC2 league in the world and then lost 2-3 to arguably the best Protoss player currently in the world, and now he's mediocre?

Compared to the rest of the Code S field, yes.

His games were hardly inspiring, just all ins, hellbat abusing and SCV pulls.

He won't make it past the RO32 next season, you can quote me on this.


Not sure if trolling or being a ass.
hmm..

So you think he is a top 8 player in the world?


Depends how he is going to do in the Global Season Finals.
The curse is real
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
July 25 2013 11:16 GMT
#934
On July 25 2013 20:14 Emzeeshady wrote:
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On July 25 2013 20:07 Tobblish wrote:
On July 25 2013 20:05 Emzeeshady wrote:
On July 25 2013 20:04 iNsaNe- wrote:
On July 25 2013 19:56 Emzeeshady wrote:
Good, back to mediocrity for Supernova until another lucky season.


Meh, I just hate statements like this. He won his ro32 and ro16 groups in the most difficult SC2 league in the world and then lost 2-3 to arguably the best Protoss player currently in the world, and now he's mediocre?

Compared to the rest of the Code S field, yes.

His games were hardly inspiring, just all ins, hellbat abusing and SCV pulls.

He won't make it past the RO32 next season, you can quote me on this.


Not sure if trolling or being a ass.
hmm..

So you think he is a top 8 player in the world?


Not being top 8 and being mediocre are completely different.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
July 25 2013 11:16 GMT
#935
*sigh* my 2 favorite players left in this tournament are about to kill each other D;

going with the team here and pulling for First with head and heart.
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Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
July 25 2013 11:16 GMT
#936
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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
July 25 2013 11:16 GMT
#937
On July 25 2013 20:14 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 20:13 Erraa93 wrote:
On July 25 2013 20:12 Wintex wrote:
[image loading]

It's time to get the fuck outta OSL, First.
The time for my Bomber has come!


Oh here he is

Pfew, didn't feel the same without the rampant fanboyism.

Yeah, I was a fucking zombie (12 hour waiting and front row does hurt..) after the Muse concert yesterday. Woke up the second Rain won.. it's a sign for how good of a fan I am..
The Bomber boy
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
July 25 2013 11:17 GMT
#938
On July 25 2013 20:08 Heartland wrote:
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On July 25 2013 20:07 Yamulo wrote:
On July 25 2013 20:06 bo1b wrote:
On July 25 2013 20:04 BackSideAttack wrote:
On July 25 2013 20:03 Scarecrow wrote:
On July 25 2013 20:02 painkilla wrote:
On July 25 2013 20:00 Emzeeshady wrote:
On July 25 2013 19:57 Schelim wrote:
well fuck. boringest Protoss player wins again by being really good and Supernova is out =/

at least the series was really close, SN was able to show he's not a pushover.

His games that he won include...

A WTF pull every SCV attack

and Rain playing so bad it made Artosis call the game gross



Last game Ran got a free win too when SN didn't pull scv.

So much irony, Rain winning with a semi-allin. SN losing because he didn't pull scvs


Rain's allin was based on his scouting, Supernova's scv pull was out of desperation from being behind.

It wasn't an all in at all, he had 3 gates and just attacked.

Spending resources on stalkers puts you very far behind especially when you make more than 5. That was very all in, the fact that it is off of three gates just lets it happen earlier.


Making units out of three gates on two bases can't be called an all in unless the term becomes void of any meaning.


To be fair though, whenever Protoss attacks, it is semi allin. Cause if Protoss loses substantial amount of his units, he mostly auto-loses later.
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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
July 25 2013 11:17 GMT
#939
Listening to Tastetosis rave about First, there's no chance Bomber loses.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 11:17:51
July 25 2013 11:17 GMT
#940
On July 25 2013 20:15 Raambo11 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 20:13 bo1b wrote:
On July 25 2013 20:11 NarutO wrote:
On July 25 2013 20:10 bo1b wrote:
On July 25 2013 20:09 NarutO wrote:
On July 25 2013 20:07 pmp10 wrote:
On July 25 2013 20:04 Chr15t wrote:
On July 25 2013 20:03 Kommander wrote:
On July 25 2013 20:02 NarutO wrote:
For the sake of Terran, Bomber go 0-3


You want Bomber to lose 0-3? :p

To avoid the Blizz-Hammer i guess :D

Unless Innovations wrists explode the hammer is coming for terran anyway.
Might as well get it over with and spare ourselves listening to the complains.


Yeah drop the hammer on the race that wins 43,4% of their games in the match up, because one player is outstanding. Legit

Pretty likely that some nerf is coming towards tvz


51,x % for Zerg with Flash on 10 winstreak and INnoVation with another 80% of Terran wins, I think besides those two, there is no outstanding Terran that is balance breaking in TvZ, am I wrong on that one?

I don't think it will matter if your wrong or right at this point tbh, proleague is 65% tvz, terran shat on zerg this osl etc. Right or wrong some sort of buff for zerg/nerf for terran is probably coming.



Its funny how different the results in top tournaments are vs how balance is on ladder. Blizz doesn't seem to really care about ladder balance, or they model it off GSL balance. If a race is doing extremely well in GSL they will be nerfed, much as Terran was repeatedly nerfed during GomTVT


While proleague stats show such balance breaking results, look into it. I am not saying TvZ is imbalanced or Zerg favored to begin with, but over 50% of the wins from Terran are thanks to INnoVatioN and Flash. I believe there are players outstanding that just happen to be ahead of their time. i.e Rain in WoL when Protoss really didn't do too well, he destroyed Terrans. I think Blizzard will take a good look into it, because what are you going to take away from Terran that helps Zerg?
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