On July 18 2013 01:25 BlackCompany wrote: This better be working Happy, else you are so dead. I mean he probably has to kill Titans entire army and loose like 30 supply max or so..
On July 18 2013 01:25 BlackCompany wrote: This better be working Happy, else you are so dead. I mean he probably has to kill Titans entire army and loose like 30 supply max or so..
Happy is completely dead.
Well if he wins the max fight without loosing much and rushes the production he has a chance.. but its reaaaaaaaaaally low
Lol, Titan wasn't even in that bad of a position, and he just a moved up the ramp with his zealot stuck in the back and not target firing anything. What a completely pointless throw.
On July 18 2013 01:43 CruelZeratul wrote: Not sending an unit with the Probe which is suppodes to build the third ist just a huge mistake.
Yeah, this is always annoying to see. Just like when terran and protoss players don't send a unit to their third at like 8:30 to clear a pooping overlord and have to delay their expansion by a minute.
On July 18 2013 01:44 Koshi wrote: Ok. Why is my first reaction not "twitch is fucking up" Thought it was my computer -_-
my first reaction was to look at the lights on my router. My damn ISP is planning a maintenance this evening and I could lose my net any time for a few hours. It's annoying as hell. Cant they do that at night?
On July 18 2013 01:44 Koshi wrote: Ok. Why is my first reaction not "twitch is fucking up" Thought it was my computer -_-
They really need to get their shit together, I can't even watch at 720p.
Guys, if Twitch improved their service it just wouldn't be the same! We'd all be pining for that old nostalgic, awful service we've come to expect from our one option for watching every tournament ever.
On July 18 2013 01:47 Zheryn wrote: http://www.twitch.tv/wcs_europe_es is working. As expected after Titan derping that hard, he is down 40 supply and about to lose.
I don't know who this caster is, but it's wonderful.
On July 18 2013 01:46 jimothyjim wrote: It's too hot for these kinds of shenanigans.
It's going to hit +30 tomorrow. Longest and coldest winter on record followed by wettest spring with multiple towns been flooded and now whats shaping up to be the longest heatwave in a long while (no doubt hose pipe bans incoming). I'm not coping well.
On July 18 2013 01:46 jimothyjim wrote: It's too hot for these kinds of shenanigans.
It's going to hit +30 tomorrow. Longest and coldest winter on record followed by wettest spring with multiple towns been flooded and now whats shaping up to be the longest heatwave in a long while (no doubt hose pipe bans incoming). I'm not coping well.
On July 18 2013 01:56 4ZakeN87 wrote: A little surprised that neither twitch chat or TL dont talk about Apollos Michael Jackson references in this cast.
Think there have been 20 so far, usually twitch/reddit never fail to explode about this kind of stuff.
Apollo is just a smooth criminal. Us mere peons do not notice such high brow humor
On July 18 2013 01:56 4ZakeN87 wrote: A little surprised that neither twitch chat or TL dont talk about Apollos Michael Jackson references in this cast.
Think there have been 20 so far, usually twitch/reddit never fail to explode about this kind of stuff.
Apollo is just a smooth criminal. Us mere peons do not notice such high brow humor
Maybe we don't care about MJ. Maybe we think he was bad.
On July 18 2013 01:56 4ZakeN87 wrote: A little surprised that neither twitch chat or TL dont talk about Apollos Michael Jackson references in this cast.
Think there have been 20 so far, usually twitch/reddit never fail to explode about this kind of stuff.
really? i haven't noticed a single one tbh. but i only tuned in around the end of game 1.
Titan just made a new fan, great series. Definitely enjoyed Titan's decision making, from the gravitic drive, to the third base after engi block, and finally just choosing to keep warping in zealots when happy refused to pull his army back. Really intelligent play.
On July 18 2013 01:56 4ZakeN87 wrote: A little surprised that neither twitch chat or TL dont talk about Apollos Michael Jackson references in this cast.
Think there have been 20 so far, usually twitch/reddit never fail to explode about this kind of stuff.
really? i haven't noticed a single one tbh. but i only tuned in around the end of game 1.
The tactics of Happy was "Black and White", Happy looked like a "Stranger in Moscov", the game could only be described as a "Thriller", Titan said according to Apollo "Just beat it" when he defended his fourth, the hellbats was dancing "as on MJ concert" and so on ^.^
On July 18 2013 02:03 YoungTyTy wrote: The way Apollo talks about this makes me feel weird about the fact that i'm not surprised.
don't worry, i'm not surprised either. both of these guys are mid-tier Europeans with somewhat inconsistent form, anything could have happened imo. in fact, that pretty much applies to everybody in this group.
On July 18 2013 02:03 YoungTyTy wrote: The way Apollo talks about this makes me feel weird about the fact that i'm not surprised.
don't worry, i'm not surprised either. both of these guys are mid-tier Europeans with somewhat inconsistent form, anything could have happened imo. in fact, that pretty much applies to everybody in this group.
That's exactly what I thought. Imo the fact that SortOf is in Korea makes him even with everyone else so I can't predict this group at all.
It seems the lag throws people offbalance. You start with an advantage, but you know that the opponent will be using a set of predictable responses to overcome that advantage.
So you practice against this set, but this is a set of plays that would ordinarly not be used against you that much, so you have one week (or sthing) of practice against these plays, instead of the five months of practice that you have against standard stuff.
Happy and ToD played a pretty interesting series at HSC7 as well, ToD threw like a nearly unthrowable game. Those two have a talent for creating weird fuckign matches.
Looking at the results at liquipedia for this WCS EU; Is the foreign scene devolving into a PvZ fest WOL-style again? Only foreign terran advancing is Lucifron...
On July 18 2013 03:06 Ace Frehley wrote: Looking at the results at liquipedia for this WCS EU; Is the foreign scene devolving into a PvZ fest WOL-style again? Only foreign terran advancing is Lucifron...
foreign scene has always produced surprisingly few terrans. It doesn't really seem to be a balance thing.
On July 18 2013 03:06 Ace Frehley wrote: Looking at the results at liquipedia for this WCS EU; Is the foreign scene devolving into a PvZ fest WOL-style again? Only foreign terran advancing is Lucifron...
foreign scene has always produced surprisingly few terrans. It doesn't really seem to be a balance thing.
I know, because Terrans are doing well in Korea, which is a way stronger scene
On July 18 2013 03:06 Ace Frehley wrote: Looking at the results at liquipedia for this WCS EU; Is the foreign scene devolving into a PvZ fest WOL-style again? Only foreign terran advancing is Lucifron...
foreign scene has always produced surprisingly few terrans. It doesn't really seem to be a balance thing.
On July 18 2013 03:06 Ace Frehley wrote: Looking at the results at liquipedia for this WCS EU; Is the foreign scene devolving into a PvZ fest WOL-style again? Only foreign terran advancing is Lucifron...
It never left the PvZ-fest faze. There was just a short break courtesy of hellbats.
On July 18 2013 03:06 Ace Frehley wrote: Looking at the results at liquipedia for this WCS EU; Is the foreign scene devolving into a PvZ fest WOL-style again? Only foreign terran advancing is Lucifron...
foreign scene has always produced surprisingly few terrans. It doesn't really seem to be a balance thing.
rumor korean dna enhances your terran play
They've also researched real life stim: sacrifice wrists to win tournaments.
I haven't watched pro sc2 in a while, and I've heard of Kaelaris - though never listened/watched him - before, but I'm really hoping he just takes some warming up to... cause he's absolutely infuriating. He's absolutely ruining these matches for me.
Apollo isn't my favourite either, but he's not painful.
On July 18 2013 03:06 Ace Frehley wrote: Looking at the results at liquipedia for this WCS EU; Is the foreign scene devolving into a PvZ fest WOL-style again? Only foreign terran advancing is Lucifron...
foreign scene has always produced surprisingly few terrans. It doesn't really seem to be a balance thing.
I know, because Terrans are doing well in Korea, which is a way stronger scene
Terran were ok around the beginning of 2011. They never survived the different nerfs that happened later.
On July 18 2013 03:09 Zheryn wrote: I can see why SortOf has a 29% win rate in this matchup. Is he ever going to transition?
Transition to what ? Roach-idra-viper must kill the toss before templars are out. It can be considered an allin.. i don't see any transition from that. Muta? against archons not good. Ultralisk without a single melee upgrade?
On July 18 2013 03:09 Zheryn wrote: I can see why SortOf has a 29% win rate in this matchup. Is he ever going to transition?
Transition to what ? Roach-idra-viper must kill the toss before templars are out. It can be considered an allin.. i don't see any transition from that. Muta? against archons not good. Ultralisk without a single melee upgrade?
You never see anyone open roach hydra viper and transition in to ultras or swarm hosts? You need to watch more starcraft!
On July 18 2013 03:16 Roman666 wrote: Apollo you will get banned on TL for that!
Technically, Apollo made sure to say that they are players who became good after the patch but have dropped off in HotS. He didn't actually say they were only good because of the patch. He's allowing the possibility it was just coincidence
On July 18 2013 03:16 Roman666 wrote: Apollo you will get banned on TL for that!
Technically, Apollo made sure to say that they are players who became good after the patch but have dropped off in HotS. He didn't actually say they were only good because of the patch. He's allowing the possibility it was just coincidence
So much fucking lag. Twitch sucks, ESL's computers suck. On top of that SortOf is playing from korea and just playing roach hydra without creep spread or map vision. Not the best WCS day.
On July 18 2013 03:35 AlternativeEgo wrote: Twitch acting up again. 7k viewers lost in a quick drop. >.<
I was watching on 720p and it briefly stopped. The 720p+ and 480p options were still there but the other options disappeared. They're back now though.
I had Vasa on muted on the side (he's a couple of game minutes behind, so I went with the main) and suddenly music and crazy Italian guy was blasting out of nowhere :D
On July 18 2013 03:39 Zheryn wrote: So much fucking lag. Twitch sucks, ESL's computers suck. On top of that SortOf is playing from korea and just playing roach hydra without creep spread or map vision. Not the best WCS day.
On July 18 2013 03:39 Zheryn wrote: So much fucking lag. Twitch sucks, ESL's computers suck. On top of that SortOf is playing from korea and just playing roach hydra without creep spread or map vision. Not the best WCS day.
Observer lagging in several games now, I would be so fucking frustrated if I was playing. Stream is also lagging a bit, I'll check out the proxy, thank you.
On July 18 2013 03:39 Zheryn wrote: So much fucking lag. Twitch sucks, ESL's computers suck. On top of that SortOf is playing from korea and just playing roach hydra without creep spread or map vision. Not the best WCS day.
Observer lagging in several games now, I would be so fucking frustrated if I was playing. Stream is also lagging a bit, I'll check out the proxy, thank you.
No problem I can't do anything about the ESL observer though. Hopefully they're aware of it and will have it sorted for the Ro16.
On July 18 2013 03:48 scypio wrote: 8 tosses in the ro16 and counting
It makes up for last season's awful Protoss performance Weirdly, out of the 4 Protoss in last season's Ro16 only one managed to get back into the Ro16 this season (Naniwa).
Wow, I didn't realise how bad ToD actually is compared to most other premier league players. It would be freaking hilarioud if he managed to lose this game after the insane advantage he had.
On July 18 2013 04:05 KristofferAG wrote: Horrible engagements from ToD. Ugh.
I know he's up massively in economy, but the supplies got within 10 for a second there. If Happy pulls all his SCVs right now he might have a chance, but he's already making a CC.
On July 18 2013 04:05 KristofferAG wrote: Horrible engagements from ToD. Ugh.
I know he's up massively in economy, but the supplies got within 10 for a second there. If Happy pulls all his SCVs right now he might have a chance, but he's already making a CC.
On July 18 2013 04:18 aZealot wrote: ToD is pretty bad.
The calls people are making in this thread are pretty hilarious.
By the way, for those who are interested, this is actually a build that I've seen TAiLS' use on his stream a lot (ages ago now, to be honest) and it's really strong. I've been using it quite a lot. Works a lot better if you can get in before SCVs are pulled though, obviously =P
Please. get off it. I couldn't care what the build is. The bunker bust in the first game was bad. The bunker bust in this one was pretty bad. Bad ff and bad unit control. This looks to me like sloppy play. He may be having bad games today, but he does not look a good Protoss player to me.
And Happy wins it! One of the few times I'm happy to see a Terran beat a Protoss.
did anyone see when Tod moved to attack in his main all his stalkers moved forward and started shooting the destructible plate so they walked into Happy's army
On July 18 2013 04:23 Shellshock1122 wrote: did anyone see when Tod moved to attack in his main all his stalkers moved forward and started shooting the destructible plate so they walked into Happy's army
I mean, I really root for ToD , but , .. wtf was that , can any awesome analyst here can make it clear for me? what the FUCK did ToD do , he lost so bad ..
On July 18 2013 04:18 aZealot wrote: ToD is pretty bad.
The calls people are making in this thread are pretty hilarious.
By the way, for those who are interested, this is actually a build that I've seen TAiLS' use on his stream a lot (ages ago now, to be honest) and it's really strong. I've been using it quite a lot. Works a lot better if you can get in before SCVs are pulled though, obviously =P
Please. get off it. I couldn't care what the build is. The bunker bust in the first game was bad. The bunker bust in this one was pretty bad. Bad ff and bad unit control. This looks to me like sloppy play. He may be having bad games today, but he does not look a good Protoss player to me.
And Happy wins it!
"for those who are interested"
My comments on the build were not aimed at you. Calm down.
On July 18 2013 04:26 Kamate wrote: I mean, I really root for ToD , but , .. wtf was that , can any awesome analyst here can make it clear for me? what the FUCK did ToD do , he lost so bad ..
I'm not an awesome analyst, and my Wi-Fi cut out right as Happy ran up the ramp, but it seemed like:
1) ToD decided NOT to recall when he went into the main and then proceeded to let his MSC die off. 2) He missed forcefielding the army out at his natural ramp.
If he recalled home after destroying a couple of barracks, I think he would have been fine and the game would have continued on. If he forcefielded the army out of his main, I think he would have held while destroying Happy's main (slowly). And if he kept his MSC alive, he would always have the option of recalling home if his home defense started faltering.
On July 18 2013 04:28 AgentW wrote: Is Seattle near Jersey? ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
What? you cant place Europe on the map , mate
Amazingly, I defy the stereotype you have of Americans and have quite the grasp on geography.
Then why are you rolling on the floor? tell me if Austria is on east or on west of Europe. Why you do that on a LR? hahah my state is upstate you europeans have no ideea.. WTF?
On July 18 2013 04:28 AgentW wrote: Is Seattle near Jersey? ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
What? you cant place Europe on the map , mate
Amazingly, I defy the stereotype you have of Americans and have quite the grasp on geography.
Then why are you rolling on the floor? tell me if Austria is on east or on west of Europe. Why you do that on a LR? hahah my state is upstate you europeans have no ideea.. WTF?
Austria is somewhat centrally located, trending to the east more so, however. I laughed because it was funny.
I did it in the LR because Kaelaris said it in a broadcast for the match this LR is for.
On July 18 2013 04:28 AgentW wrote: Is Seattle near Jersey? ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
What? you cant place Europe on the map , mate
Amazingly, I defy the stereotype you have of Americans and have quite the grasp on geography.
Then why are you rolling on the floor? tell me if Austria is on east or on west of Europe. Why you do that on a LR? hahah my state is upstate you europeans have no ideea.. WTF?
Austria is somewhat centrally located, trending to the east more so, however. I laughed because it was funny.
I did it in the LR because Kaelaris said it in a broadcast for the match this LR is for.
On July 18 2013 04:28 AgentW wrote: Is Seattle near Jersey? ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
What? you cant place Europe on the map , mate
Amazingly, I defy the stereotype you have of Americans and have quite the grasp on geography.
Then why are you rolling on the floor? tell me if Austria is on east or on west of Europe. Why you do that on a LR? hahah my state is upstate you europeans have no ideea.. WTF?
Austria is somewhat centrally located, trending to the east more so, however. I laughed because it was funny.
I did it in the LR because Kaelaris said it in a broadcast for the match this LR is for.
Dunno how to respond to points three and four.
On July 18 2013 04:34 Aeromi wrote:
On July 18 2013 04:33 Bizeheryer wrote: The Alliance vs. the Empire incoming!!!!
This made my day.
Went over my head at first but it is really funny.
On July 18 2013 04:28 AgentW wrote: Is Seattle near Jersey? ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
What? you cant place Europe on the map , mate
Amazingly, I defy the stereotype you have of Americans and have quite the grasp on geography.
Then why are you rolling on the floor? tell me if Austria is on east or on west of Europe. Why you do that on a LR? hahah my state is upstate you europeans have no ideea.. WTF?
Austria is somewhat centrally located, trending to the east more so, however. I laughed because it was funny.
I did it in the LR because Kaelaris said it in a broadcast for the match this LR is for.
On July 18 2013 04:33 Bizeheryer wrote: The Alliance vs. the Empire incoming!!!!
This made my day.
Went over my head at first but it is really funny.
fucking died @ "my state is upstate"
also i feel like the Austria question was kind of a trick question. we're pretty central, a little more to the east is probably fair to say, but in terms of culture most people would probably rather say we belong to Western Europe. it's definitely a question that requires much more knowledge of Europe than the question "where is Seattle" requires knowledge of the geography of the US.
If the players can play from home, how they know that the players don't are being "coached" ? Sounds useful play with a bunch of pro friends saying what to do next etc.
On July 18 2013 04:42 Tiaraju9 wrote: If the players can play from home, how they know that the players don't are being "coached" ? Sounds useful play with a bunch of pro friends saying what to do next etc.
we just assume that the players that play here have some pride
On July 18 2013 05:12 Schelim wrote: lol that guy is german as hell :D
da fuck is a WCS commissioner? i guess we'll find out.
also Happy <3
He probably writes the name of the players for the seeds.
He has run truckloads of esports tournaments for ESL and is one of the most experienced in esports in Europe. Always nice to judge people when you are so clueless, is it?
oh goddamn it i was feeling pretty good about Grubby's chances until Mvp jumped in his group. i mean ideally they both advance and meet again in the finals but i don't know about that.
On 7/17/13, at 4:23 PM, David wrote: > Mvp probably in group 1 On 7/17/13, at 4:24 PM, David wrote: > because he always gets the easy ones On 7/17/13, at 4:24 PM, Michael wrote: > stephano in group 2 cause of korean toss On 7/17/13, at 4:24 PM, Michael wrote: > naniwa group c for tefel On 7/17/13, at 4:24 PM, Michael wrote: > titan in d
On July 18 2013 05:28 Shellshock1122 wrote: LR illuminati interfered + Show Spoiler +
On 7/17/13, at 4:23 PM, David wrote: > Mvp probably in group 1 On 7/17/13, at 4:24 PM, David wrote: > because he always gets the easy ones On 7/17/13, at 4:24 PM, Michael wrote: > stephano in group 2 cause of korean toss On 7/17/13, at 4:24 PM, Michael wrote: > naniwa group c for tefel On 7/17/13, at 4:24 PM, Michael wrote: > titan in d
Finishing up the evening with a tweet from SortOf:
Rickard Bergman @AllianceSortOf 5m About to go to the aiport, Im sorry for my play today. I will work on not getting tilted by things like lag for the future.
On July 18 2013 05:44 Zheryn wrote: Finishing up the evening with a tweet from SortOf:
Rickard Bergman @AllianceSortOf 5m About to go to the aiport, Im sorry for my play today. I will work on not getting tilted by things like lag for the future.
It's not that big of an issue. He played from Korea and almost got through. I will cheer for him in Valencia!
EPT
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