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Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5617 Posts
June 30 2013 00:52 GMT
#3961
Dear seems really friendly...
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
June 30 2013 00:52 GMT
#3962
On June 30 2013 09:50 DamageControL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 09:48 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On June 30 2013 09:47 deus.machinarum wrote:
On June 30 2013 09:45 Nick! wrote:
On June 30 2013 09:44 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
Actually if CatZ really just 'let' Kane through I believe that is a really big deal and he should be banned.


Then we are thankful you have absolutely no control over the rules


Agreed. A team manager forfeiting to let an actual team member advance is not a big deal at all.

CatZ wouldn't be doing it if it had been in the (semi)finals.


So you admit it would be a problem if it was a semi final? Then why is this different? The principle is the same stage of tournament does not matter. If you disagree with one you must disagree with both.

Please don't use a categorical. There can be a sliding scale of how important the match is.

I personally am not sure what the problem is. I think "prize-sharing" should be banned but if a person wanted to throw it's fine whenever in the tourney--but not for financial gain


Not in this case. How is there a sliding scale? It does not matter if it is in the grand finals or ro1 of the online qualifier.

You think its fine to throw games. That tells us all we need to know about your ethical attitude.
Red and yellow are all I see
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2781 Posts
June 30 2013 00:52 GMT
#3963
On June 30 2013 09:51 lannisport wrote:
And that's why I'm not a Jaedong fan. At least when Flash loses he loses good.


Shame on you. You know that when you lose to Protoss it always looks gay as Zerg. Terran is the only race that can lose in style.
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
Xialos
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada508 Posts
June 30 2013 00:52 GMT
#3964
what's the next game?
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
June 30 2013 00:52 GMT
#3965
He still can't figure zvp out for himself

GG Dear

"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
June 30 2013 00:52 GMT
#3966
On June 30 2013 09:52 Qwyn wrote:
I want you to play the swarm-host hydra turtle style, Jaedong. Do it. I don't care if it's stupid! Do it to win!


yeah, pretty much the only way to win atm
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
June 30 2013 00:52 GMT
#3967
Catz can easily just say he wasn't feeling well and this whole discussion will go away.
Meerel
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany713 Posts
June 30 2013 00:52 GMT
#3968
well jaedongs build is awesome, i realyl like fast tier 3 but somehow it didnt work
SDMF
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
June 30 2013 00:52 GMT
#3969
RIP Jaedong Oz
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Daogin
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada2308 Posts
June 30 2013 00:53 GMT
#3970
On June 30 2013 09:51 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 09:48 Daogin wrote:
On June 30 2013 09:46 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On June 30 2013 09:45 Nick! wrote:
On June 30 2013 09:44 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
Actually if CatZ really just 'let' Kane through I believe that is a really big deal and he should be banned.


Then we are thankful you have absolutely no control over the rules


Imagine an all LG-IM semi finals. They forfeit all the games and let MVP win the tournament. Is that acceptable? Why is this any different?

If it was deliberate it is really a big deal and absolutely horrendous on CatZ behalf.

1) it's a match in the lower bracket
2) Just cause catz dropped out dosnt mean you know the reason, stop assuming random bullshit

Regardless if its true or not, there was nothing lost stop being a super stubborn ass about the situation it has literally 0 effect on the tournament unless Kane somehow magically beats every korean he has to go against, (Golden and soO atm).
then maybe you'd have a good reason to bitch otherwise stop clogging the LR with stupid crap.


1) Doesn't matter what stage at all.
2) All I have said is with the caveat IF its true.

Man people just have no clue at all, no integrity, no principles.

Who are you to justify what people have any clue of, you are one against a majority and you assume you're correct? Good to have an opinion don't need to spew it all over the place, why don't you message Catz and bitch at him or message MLG instead of acting like a superiority in the LR thread.
Leenoctopus <3, master of foreign events.
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
June 30 2013 00:53 GMT
#3971
On June 30 2013 09:49 breakit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 09:44 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
Actually if CatZ really just 'let' Kane through I believe that is a really big deal and he should be banned.



Everyone saying stuff similar to this are being really childish. Catz is the manager of Root, and wants to see his players advance as far as possible. Sacrificing his own tournament stakes to relieve the pressure of Kane having to play an additional two matches is perfectly fine when nothing is on the line. The only thing catz gained by doing this was having one of his players advance further without having to play an additional 2 matches. Grow up


If he feels this way then why was he playing in the tournament in the first place? Not competing would have been the ideal way to solve this problem. When he signed up he knew there was a chance the brackets could turn out this way and the way he chose to deal with it is rightfully controversial. Gifting players a free win to give them an easier time getting through the tournament is either acceptable or it's not. If you decide it is acceptable then that opens up some serious potential for abuse. This kind of thing would not fly in a tournament like GSL.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5617 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-30 00:54:33
June 30 2013 00:53 GMT
#3972
On June 30 2013 09:51 c0ldfusion wrote:
Glad to see JD in good spirits chatting up an ex-teammate.

Oh yeah shiiiiit I forgot Dear was the up and coming protoss on Hwaseung OZ.

with sOs of course
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
pieisamazing
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1234 Posts
June 30 2013 00:53 GMT
#3973
dear didnt really play particularly well there
connoisseur
deus.machinarum
Profile Joined September 2011
Austria658 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-30 00:55:15
June 30 2013 00:53 GMT
#3974
On June 30 2013 09:48 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 09:47 deus.machinarum wrote:
On June 30 2013 09:45 Nick! wrote:
On June 30 2013 09:44 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
Actually if CatZ really just 'let' Kane through I believe that is a really big deal and he should be banned.


Then we are thankful you have absolutely no control over the rules


Agreed. A team manager forfeiting to let an actual team member advance is not a big deal at all.

CatZ wouldn't be doing it if it had been in the (semi)finals.


So you admit it would be a problem if it was a semi final? Then why is this different? The principle is the same stage of tournament does not matter. If you disagree with one you must disagree with both.


Should have formulated that differently.
What I'm trying to say: had they met in the semis Kane would already have had a great run(and CatZ too, ofc), now (an early round of the LB) it's just a case of a team manager getting out of the way of a team member, you could argue that Catz should not even have signed up with that premise, maybe, maybe not.

Edit: Also people need to calm down on the principle, morals etc. bandwagon. Guess what comes first for CatZ? Oh yeah, it's HIS team.
Nothing worth having comes easy.
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
June 30 2013 00:53 GMT
#3975
On June 30 2013 09:52 Meerel wrote:
well jaedongs build is awesome, i realyl like fast tier 3 but somehow it didnt work


Perfect timing and control from Dear there. Absolutely perfect. Swarm host static defense style would have been better imo.
Red and yellow are all I see
Glaive
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
Sweden138 Posts
June 30 2013 00:53 GMT
#3976
Dear is completely shattering my comprehension of how various Protoss compositions fair in engagements. I looked at that engagement when the MSC and first couple of Colossus got snatched and went "JaeDongs got this, ez."

Two minutes of flawless battle micro later and JD has to GG. I have no words.
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5225 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-30 00:54:19
June 30 2013 00:53 GMT
#3977
On June 30 2013 09:52 Laryleprakon wrote:
Catz can easily just say he wasn't feeling well and this whole discussion will go away.


Yep. But it looks shady to people.
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
June 30 2013 00:53 GMT
#3978
On June 30 2013 09:52 Elroi wrote:
Dear seems really friendly...


Dear is amazing and awesome!
he loves studying philosophy and military history in his spare time

Loved him since the good ol' BW days
▲ ▲ ▲
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
June 30 2013 00:53 GMT
#3979
Every time Dear wins, he should be able to Kirby eat the other opponent's salary, trying to make up for STX's debt.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
lannisport
Profile Joined February 2012
878 Posts
June 30 2013 00:53 GMT
#3980
On June 30 2013 09:52 Qwyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 09:51 lannisport wrote:
And that's why I'm not a Jaedong fan. At least when Flash loses he loses good.


Shame on you. You know that when you lose to Protoss it always looks gay as Zerg. Terran is the only race that can lose in style.


I've been a JD fan since even before he earned his nickname as Legend Killer... So it simply hurts whenever he loses. He hurts too bad. Never again!
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