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PeterDLai
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States924 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 00:33:09
June 17 2013 22:53 GMT
#1
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Monday, Jun 17 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_1_America/Challenger



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Casters: Axeltoss & Axslav

[image loading] WCS America



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tw (Z)Sen vs. kr (P)Sage

[image loading] (T)Fenix vs. kr (P)Oz



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+ Show Spoiler [Spoiler-Free] +
+ Show Spoiler [Sen vs. Sage] +
+ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +
(Z)Sen <Bel'Shir Vestige> (P)Sage

+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
(Z)Sen <Star Station> (P)Sage

+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
(Z)Sen <> (P)Sage

+ Show Spoiler [Fenix vs. Oz] +
+ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +
(T)Fenix <Bel'Shir Vestige> (P)Oz

+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
(T)Fenix forfeits due to serious lag issues. (P)Oz takes the win.

+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
(T)Fenix <> (P)Oz

+ Show Spoiler [Winners' Match] +
+ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +
(P)Sage <Bel'Shir Vestige> (P)Oz

+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
(P)Sage <Daybreak> (P)Oz

+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
(P)Sage <> (P)Oz

+ Show Spoiler [Losers' Match] +
+ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +
(T)Fenix forfeits Losers' Match series due to serious lag issues. (Z)Sen receives Walkover into Final Match.

+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
(Z)Sen <> (T)Fenix

+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
(Z)Sen <> (T)Fenix

+ Show Spoiler [Final Match] +
+ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +
(P)Oz <Whirlwind> (Z)Sen

+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
(P)Oz <Bel'Shir Vestige> (Z)Sen

+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
(P)Oz <> (Z)Sen


+ Show Spoiler [Overall Results] +

Sen vs. Sage
(Z)Sen <Bel'Shir Vestige> (P)Sage
(Z)Sen <Star Station> (P)Sage

(P)Sage wins 2-0!

Fenix vs. Oz
(T)Fenix <Bel'Shir Vestige> (P)Oz
(T)Fenix forfeits Game 2 due to serious lag issues. (P)Oz takes the win.

(P)Oz wins 2-0!

Winners' Match
(P)Sage <Bel'Shir Vestige> (P)Oz
(P)Sage <Daybreak> (P)Oz

(P)Sage wins 2-0!

Losers' Match
(T)Fenix forfeits Losers' Match series due to serious lag issues. (Z)Sen receives walkover into Final Match.

(Z)Sen wins 2-0!

Final Match
(P)Oz <Whirlwind> (Z)Sen
(P)Oz <Bel'Shir Vestige> (Z)Sen

(P)Oz wins 2-0!



(P)Sage and (P)Oz advance to Premier League for WCS America Season 2!
(Z)Sen stays in Challenger League for WCS America Season 2!





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+ Show Spoiler +

Sen vs. Sage Game 1
Sen vs. Sage Game 2
Sen vs. Sage Game 3



Fenix vs. Oz Game 1
Fenix vs. Oz Game 2
Fenix vs. Oz Game 3



Winners' Match Game 1
Winners' Match Game 2
Winners' Match Game 3



Losers' Match Game 1
Losers' Match Game 2
Losers' Match Game 3



Final Match Game 1
Final Match Game 2
Final Match Game 3





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+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler [Sen vs. Sage] +
+ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +
Poll: Recommend Sen vs. Sage Game 1?

No (4)
 
100%

Yes (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

4 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Sen vs. Sage Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
Poll: Recommend Sen vs. Sage Game 2?

No (2)
 
100%

Yes (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

2 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Sen vs. Sage Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
Not needed


+ Show Spoiler [Fenix vs. Oz] +
+ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +
Poll: Recommend Fenix vs. Oz Game 1?

No (1)
 
100%

Yes (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

1 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Fenix vs. Oz Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
Not needed (forfeit)

+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
Not needed


+ Show Spoiler [Winners' Match] +
+ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +
Poll: Recommend Sage vs. Oz Game 1?

Yes (1)
 
100%

No (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

1 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Sage vs. Oz Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
Poll: Recommend Sage vs. Oz Game 2?

Yes (3)
 
100%

No (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

3 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Sage vs. Oz Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
Not needed


+ Show Spoiler [Losers' Match] +
+ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +
Not needed (forfeit)

+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
Not needed (forfeit)

+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
Not needed (forfeit)


+ Show Spoiler [Final Match] +
+ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +
Poll: Recommend Oz vs. Sen Game 1?

Yes (1)
 
50%

If you have time (1)
 
50%

No (0)
 
0%

2 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Oz vs. Sen Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
Poll: Recommend Oz vs. Sen Game 2?

If you have time (1)
 
50%

No (1)
 
50%

Yes (0)
 
0%

2 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Oz vs. Sen Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
Not needed

juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-17 22:59:53
June 17 2013 22:59 GMT
#2
+ Show Spoiler [Results So Far] +
Sage > Sen on Bel'Shir Vestige and Star Station
Fenix vs Oz on Bel'Shir Vestige


Edit: Woops, you already have it covered!
This Week in SC2Find out what happened 'This Week in Starcraft 2': http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=278126
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-17 23:10:18
June 17 2013 23:10 GMT
#3
I feel bad because I completely forgot this was today D:

Thanks for making the thread!
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TL+ Member
BoReDWiTHLiFe
Profile Joined June 2011
85 Posts
June 17 2013 23:13 GMT
#4
A live WCS LR with only 2 posts in it about games that are happening right now o.O. Guess theres a first time for everything, and damn dreamhack is popular.
Random is OP
PeterDLai
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States924 Posts
June 17 2013 23:15 GMT
#5
I created the thread pretty late (after Game 1 between Sen and Sage) because I noticed nobody else did.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 17 2013 23:17 GMT
#6
I'm glad I lb Oz and Sage. Almost went with Sen but I just didnt feel convinced by his premier league games
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TL+ Member
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12275 Posts
June 17 2013 23:19 GMT
#7
...okay, I'm here now. Fenix lags too much to play? Can it be fixed before loser's match? If so, couldn't they give him a few minutes to fix it?
No will to live, no wish to die
PeterDLai
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States924 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-17 23:23:09
June 17 2013 23:22 GMT
#8
Uhh, someone watching movie trailers on the streaming computer? Subliminal advertising?
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
June 17 2013 23:23 GMT
#9
Wtf are these movie trailers?
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
June 17 2013 23:25 GMT
#10
So much SC2 today!

DH
WCS AM
SPL
OSL
This Week in SC2Find out what happened 'This Week in Starcraft 2': http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=278126
PeterDLai
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States924 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-17 23:33:16
June 17 2013 23:32 GMT
#11
Thread was started late, I guess I'll still put up polls for those that actually watched the first games up until this point.

Poll: Recommend Sen vs. Sage Game 1?

No (4)
 
100%

Yes (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

4 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Sen vs. Sage Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



Poll: Recommend Sen vs. Sage Game 2?

No (2)
 
100%

Yes (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

2 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Sen vs. Sage Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



Poll: Recommend Fenix vs. Oz Game 1?

No (1)
 
100%

Yes (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

1 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Fenix vs. Oz Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

PeterDLai
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States924 Posts
June 17 2013 23:34 GMT
#12
Poll: Recommend Sage vs. Oz Game 1?

Yes (1)
 
100%

No (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

1 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Sage vs. Oz Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25773 Posts
June 17 2013 23:36 GMT
#13
Sage vs Sen game one died for me, and that was actually a really interesting PvZ, bit disappointing.

Come on Oz!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-17 23:43:49
June 17 2013 23:43 GMT
#14
Flawless production. I'm watching SC2 and listening to movies at the same time. :p
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
June 17 2013 23:45 GMT
#15
On June 18 2013 08:43 StarVe wrote:
Flawless production. I'm watching SC2 and listening to movies at the same time. :p


So I'm not crazy. Good for me. Bad for MLG sound technician.
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
June 17 2013 23:46 GMT
#16
Remember boys and girls, never say that you figured out PvP...

;;
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
PeterDLai
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States924 Posts
June 17 2013 23:56 GMT
#17
Poll: Recommend Sage vs. Oz Game 2?

Yes (3)
 
100%

No (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

3 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Sage vs. Oz Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 17 2013 23:59 GMT
#18
I'm sorry I turned off the stream when I saw oz scout the dts and kill those stalkers. How in the 12 heavens did oz lose.
Glorious SEA doto
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
June 17 2013 23:59 GMT
#19
A guy who once had maybe the best PvP in the world loses decisively to a guy who once had maybe the worst PvP in Korea. I'm glad about it, Sage might be my favourite player in WCS AM.
Fischbacher
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada666 Posts
June 18 2013 00:04 GMT
#20
Fenix forfeits due to Internet issues. Depressing :<
Darthsanta13
Profile Joined July 2011
United States564 Posts
June 18 2013 00:04 GMT
#21
Damn, sucks for Fenix that he drops completely out of WCS AM from premier league due to connection issues. Although to be fair I think he was the least likely to make it out of the group.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 18 2013 00:04 GMT
#22
On June 18 2013 09:04 Fischbacher wrote:
Fenix forfeits due to Internet issues. Depressing :<

The universe conspires against fenix nothing goes right for him ever.
Glorious SEA doto
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
June 18 2013 00:11 GMT
#23
Anyone getting background noise?
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
June 18 2013 00:12 GMT
#24
Whoa baneling drops. This will be interesting.
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
Darthsanta13
Profile Joined July 2011
United States564 Posts
June 18 2013 00:13 GMT
#25
On June 18 2013 09:11 Bagration wrote:
Anyone getting background noise?

Yes, getting really annoying movie ads. It's making me strongly consider just turning the stream off since I hate that ad so much.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 18 2013 00:14 GMT
#26
Why would you ever forfeit when forfeiting means you're completely out of WCS? I figure he would attempt to play at least, such an unfortunate situation.
PeterDLai
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States924 Posts
June 18 2013 00:14 GMT
#27
Poll: Recommend Oz vs. Sen Game 1?

Yes (1)
 
50%

If you have time (1)
 
50%

No (0)
 
0%

2 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Oz vs. Sen Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
June 18 2013 00:15 GMT
#28
On June 18 2013 09:14 Dodgin wrote:
Why would you ever forfeit when forfeiting means you're completely out of WCS? I figure he would attempt to play at least, such an unfortunate situation.


Yeah, that was kind of strange.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
yOngKIN
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (North)656 Posts
June 18 2013 00:15 GMT
#29
Too little pr in this
PeterDLai
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States924 Posts
June 18 2013 00:29 GMT
#30
Poll: Recommend Oz vs. Sen Game 2?

If you have time (1)
 
50%

No (1)
 
50%

Yes (0)
 
0%

2 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Oz vs. Sen Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
June 18 2013 00:29 GMT
#31
Uh, I feel like I just saw this movie from earlier.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
June 18 2013 00:30 GMT
#32
On June 18 2013 09:14 Dodgin wrote:
Why would you ever forfeit when forfeiting means you're completely out of WCS? I figure he would attempt to play at least, such an unfortunate situation.

Wouldn't be surprised if he disappeared completely again tbh.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
June 18 2013 00:54 GMT
#33
On June 18 2013 09:30 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 09:14 Dodgin wrote:
Why would you ever forfeit when forfeiting means you're completely out of WCS? I figure he would attempt to play at least, such an unfortunate situation.

Wouldn't be surprised if he disappeared completely again tbh.


He's back in Peru, right? If so, we probably won't be seeing much of him anymore for a while unfortunately. Not being in WCS AM and not being able to conveniently attend LANs will make him quickly irrelevant :\
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
June 18 2013 01:00 GMT
#34
ouch MLG changing schedules all over the place haha
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iS.Axslav
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States248 Posts
June 18 2013 01:06 GMT
#35
On June 18 2013 10:00 opterown wrote:
ouch MLG changing schedules all over the place haha


it's been the same schedule since the start of last week (on mlg site and liquipedia) just the TL calender has been having it wrong.
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
June 18 2013 01:56 GMT
#36
Super disappointing from Sen. This WCS season is his worst result maybe ever in SC2 lol.

Fenix T_T
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Namenlos
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany96 Posts
June 18 2013 02:08 GMT
#37
On June 18 2013 09:04 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 09:04 Fischbacher wrote:
Fenix forfeits due to Internet issues. Depressing :<

The universe conspires against fenix nothing goes right for him ever.


Probably Karma.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25773 Posts
June 18 2013 02:41 GMT
#38
Anybody got a vague rundown of the Oz vs Sen series? Worth watching from a Protoss/Oz fanboy perspective or were the games downvoted because of the love of Sen here?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
June 18 2013 02:56 GMT
#39
both koreans advancing what a suprise
HotGlueGun
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1409 Posts
June 18 2013 03:02 GMT
#40
On June 18 2013 11:41 Wombat_NI wrote:
Anybody got a vague rundown of the Oz vs Sen series? Worth watching from a Protoss/Oz fanboy perspective or were the games downvoted because of the love of Sen here?


I thought the 2nd game was okay because I thought Sen had it won but Oz showcased good forcefields and blink micro.
Don't hoot with the Owls at night if you cant soar with the Eagles at dawn.
Gorribal
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Canada186 Posts
June 19 2013 00:14 GMT
#41
On June 18 2013 11:08 Namenlos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 09:04 Fusilero wrote:
On June 18 2013 09:04 Fischbacher wrote:
Fenix forfeits due to Internet issues. Depressing :<

The universe conspires against fenix nothing goes right for him ever.


Probably Karma.


Fenix didn't want to match fix with a maphacker? Yea, what an asshole, Fenix totally deserves some real bad karma.


Anyways, the whole movie trailer thing is on the VODs too, and I just wanted to say that all these Koreans need to start going to America/Europe to play their online matches if they want to play their best, otherwise try to qualify for Code A. The "easy foreigners" aren't so easy if you have lag, and the least they could do when playing in an American/Europe tournament is be there.
"PartinG keeps touching us and groping us (laughs)." - Rain
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-19 09:35:48
June 19 2013 09:31 GMT
#42
On June 19 2013 09:14 Gorribal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 11:08 Namenlos wrote:
On June 18 2013 09:04 Fusilero wrote:
On June 18 2013 09:04 Fischbacher wrote:
Fenix forfeits due to Internet issues. Depressing :<

The universe conspires against fenix nothing goes right for him ever.


Probably Karma.


Fenix didn't want to match fix with a maphacker? Yea, what an asshole, Fenix totally deserves some real bad karma.


Anyways, the whole movie trailer thing is on the VODs too, and I just wanted to say that all these Koreans need to start going to America/Europe to play their online matches if they want to play their best, otherwise try to qualify for Code A. The "easy foreigners" aren't so easy if you have lag, and the least they could do when playing in an American/Europe tournament is be there.


splitting prize pool(which he agreed to beforehand) =/= match fixing, its very common practice amongst teammates(especially in the korean scene). only reason u never hear about it is because its rare to find a douchebag who goes back on his word. so yea, karma.. hopefully with more of it to come. a douche can never un-douche himself, its part of his character as a human being

regardless of what you say, think or believe
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
June 19 2013 09:43 GMT
#43
On June 19 2013 18:31 ROOTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 09:14 Gorribal wrote:
On June 18 2013 11:08 Namenlos wrote:
On June 18 2013 09:04 Fusilero wrote:
On June 18 2013 09:04 Fischbacher wrote:
Fenix forfeits due to Internet issues. Depressing :<

The universe conspires against fenix nothing goes right for him ever.


Probably Karma.


Fenix didn't want to match fix with a maphacker? Yea, what an asshole, Fenix totally deserves some real bad karma.


Anyways, the whole movie trailer thing is on the VODs too, and I just wanted to say that all these Koreans need to start going to America/Europe to play their online matches if they want to play their best, otherwise try to qualify for Code A. The "easy foreigners" aren't so easy if you have lag, and the least they could do when playing in an American/Europe tournament is be there.


splitting prize pool(which he agreed to beforehand) =/= match fixing, its very common practice amongst teammates(especially in the korean scene). only reason u never hear about it is because its rare to find a douchebag who goes back on his word. so yea, karma.. hopefully with more of it to come. a douche can never un-douche himself, its part of his character as a human being

regardless of what you say, think or believe


Haha, the irony here is mind-numbing.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-19 09:52:57
June 19 2013 09:49 GMT
#44
On June 19 2013 18:43 Daswollvieh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 18:31 ROOTT1 wrote:
On June 19 2013 09:14 Gorribal wrote:
On June 18 2013 11:08 Namenlos wrote:
On June 18 2013 09:04 Fusilero wrote:
On June 18 2013 09:04 Fischbacher wrote:
Fenix forfeits due to Internet issues. Depressing :<

The universe conspires against fenix nothing goes right for him ever.


Probably Karma.


Fenix didn't want to match fix with a maphacker? Yea, what an asshole, Fenix totally deserves some real bad karma.


Anyways, the whole movie trailer thing is on the VODs too, and I just wanted to say that all these Koreans need to start going to America/Europe to play their online matches if they want to play their best, otherwise try to qualify for Code A. The "easy foreigners" aren't so easy if you have lag, and the least they could do when playing in an American/Europe tournament is be there.


splitting prize pool(which he agreed to beforehand) =/= match fixing, its very common practice amongst teammates(especially in the korean scene). only reason u never hear about it is because its rare to find a douchebag who goes back on his word. so yea, karma.. hopefully with more of it to come. a douche can never un-douche himself, its part of his character as a human being

regardless of what you say, think or believe


Haha, the irony here is mind-numbing.


there is no irony because uve never met me, you have no idea who i am. its ironical to you because you perceive me in a certain way, once you get to know someones personality/character thats when you have the right to label them however you seem fit. past experiences with fenix give me the right to label him as a douchebag
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Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
June 19 2013 10:15 GMT
#45
On June 19 2013 18:49 ROOTT1 wrote:
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On June 19 2013 18:43 Daswollvieh wrote:
On June 19 2013 18:31 ROOTT1 wrote:
On June 19 2013 09:14 Gorribal wrote:
On June 18 2013 11:08 Namenlos wrote:
On June 18 2013 09:04 Fusilero wrote:
On June 18 2013 09:04 Fischbacher wrote:
Fenix forfeits due to Internet issues. Depressing :<

The universe conspires against fenix nothing goes right for him ever.


Probably Karma.


Fenix didn't want to match fix with a maphacker? Yea, what an asshole, Fenix totally deserves some real bad karma.


Anyways, the whole movie trailer thing is on the VODs too, and I just wanted to say that all these Koreans need to start going to America/Europe to play their online matches if they want to play their best, otherwise try to qualify for Code A. The "easy foreigners" aren't so easy if you have lag, and the least they could do when playing in an American/Europe tournament is be there.


splitting prize pool(which he agreed to beforehand) =/= match fixing, its very common practice amongst teammates(especially in the korean scene). only reason u never hear about it is because its rare to find a douchebag who goes back on his word. so yea, karma.. hopefully with more of it to come. a douche can never un-douche himself, its part of his character as a human being

regardless of what you say, think or believe


Haha, the irony here is mind-numbing.


there is no irony because uve never met me, you have no idea who i am. its ironical to you because you perceive me in a certain way, once you get to know someones personality/character thats when you have the right to label them however you seem fit. past experiences with fenix give me the right to label him as a douchebag


Not backing up TT1 as person in general but while I think he made mistakes and overall sometimes can act like a douche online / in the forums, he's completely right on this case. If they had an agreement and Fenix wanted to back out from it, he should have done it before the finals and let TT1 know. He's also completely right that this isn't match fixing, but common amongst players from the same team or even players that are friendly with each other.

Playing it out and backing out after winning is a scam and nothing else. If someone wants to forget or forgive that 'mistake' / action its their choice, but basically telling TT1 to fuck off because he does not is stupid.
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Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
June 19 2013 10:32 GMT
#46
On June 19 2013 18:49 ROOTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 18:43 Daswollvieh wrote:
On June 19 2013 18:31 ROOTT1 wrote:
On June 19 2013 09:14 Gorribal wrote:
On June 18 2013 11:08 Namenlos wrote:
On June 18 2013 09:04 Fusilero wrote:
On June 18 2013 09:04 Fischbacher wrote:
Fenix forfeits due to Internet issues. Depressing :<

The universe conspires against fenix nothing goes right for him ever.


Probably Karma.


Fenix didn't want to match fix with a maphacker? Yea, what an asshole, Fenix totally deserves some real bad karma.


Anyways, the whole movie trailer thing is on the VODs too, and I just wanted to say that all these Koreans need to start going to America/Europe to play their online matches if they want to play their best, otherwise try to qualify for Code A. The "easy foreigners" aren't so easy if you have lag, and the least they could do when playing in an American/Europe tournament is be there.


splitting prize pool(which he agreed to beforehand) =/= match fixing, its very common practice amongst teammates(especially in the korean scene). only reason u never hear about it is because its rare to find a douchebag who goes back on his word. so yea, karma.. hopefully with more of it to come. a douche can never un-douche himself, its part of his character as a human being

regardless of what you say, think or believe


Haha, the irony here is mind-numbing.


there is no irony because uve never met me, you have no idea who i am. its ironical to you because you perceive me in a certain way, once you get to know someones personality/character thats when you have the right to label them however you seem fit. past experiences with fenix give me the right to label him as a douchebag


It is kinda funny when you say something that can easily be applied to yourself (do a douchy thing makes you a douche, can never undouche because doucheness imprinted in character) with such conviction. I wasn´t judging you. And I don´t doubt your capacity of judging Fenix as a person, better than anyone else on the forum. I just don´t know why you would even throw such an obvious bait??

That said, I think Artosis put it pretty well into words on some state of the game when Terran/Kitty/Princess/Major did some Shenanigans:
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