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On June 03 2013 18:42 Shellshock1122 wrote: CJ is the worst performing team in HoTS so far. They have the same match score as Team 8 but a worse map score
Really? Huh. Worse than EG-TL even? But how are they head to head with Woongjin? I assume they've been stomped?
On June 03 2013 18:42 Shellshock1122 wrote: CJ is the worst performing team in HoTS so far. They have the same match score as Team 8 but a worse map score
Really? Huh. Worse than EG-TL even? But how are they head to head with Woongjin? I assume they've been stomped?
EGTL is 6-8 in HoTS. CJ is 4-10. CJ lost 4-2 in R4 and 4-1 in R5 to Woongjin
On June 03 2013 18:42 Shellshock1122 wrote: CJ is the worst performing team in HoTS so far. They have the same match score as Team 8 but a worse map score
Really? Huh. Worse than EG-TL even? But how are they head to head with Woongjin? I assume they've been stomped?
EGTL is 6-8 in HoTS. CJ is 4-10. CJ lost 4-2 in R4 and 4-1 in R5 to Woongjin
when the sh was introduced blizz said they want zerg to have a unit to finish a game with a lead, in reality it allows opponents to get back or are used in boring splitmaps lol
On June 03 2013 19:11 Tsubbi wrote: when the sh was introduced blizz said they want zerg to have a unit to finish a game with a lead, in reality it allows opponents to get back or are used in boring splitmaps lol
You just have to read an official strategy guide to realise Blizzard have nfi how their units should be used
On June 03 2013 19:11 Tsubbi wrote: when the sh was introduced blizz said they want zerg to have a unit to finish a game with a lead, in reality it allows opponents to get back or are used in boring splitmaps lol
You just have to read an official strategy guide to realise Blizzard have nfi how their units should be used
On June 03 2013 19:11 Tsubbi wrote: when the sh was introduced blizz said they want zerg to have a unit to finish a game with a lead, in reality it allows opponents to get back or are used in boring splitmaps lol
You just have to read an official strategy guide to realise Blizzard have nfi how their units should be used
On June 03 2013 19:11 Tsubbi wrote: when the sh was introduced blizz said they want zerg to have a unit to finish a game with a lead, in reality it allows opponents to get back or are used in boring splitmaps lol
You just have to read an official strategy guide to realise Blizzard have nfi how their units should be used
On June 03 2013 19:11 Tsubbi wrote: when the sh was introduced blizz said they want zerg to have a unit to finish a game with a lead, in reality it allows opponents to get back or are used in boring splitmaps lol
You just have to read an official strategy guide to realise Blizzard have nfi how their units should be used
"BradyGames brings you the perfect companion to StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm with this high-end collector's item"
It's still 'official', endorsed by Blizzard and sold on their website. They probably outsourced it because the ones with earlier games were so freaking bad.
On June 03 2013 19:11 Tsubbi wrote: when the sh was introduced blizz said they want zerg to have a unit to finish a game with a lead, in reality it allows opponents to get back or are used in boring splitmaps lol
You just have to read an official strategy guide to realise Blizzard have nfi how their units should be used
"BradyGames brings you the perfect companion to StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm with this high-end collector's item"
It's still 'official', endorsed by Blizzard and sold on their website. They probably outsourced it because the ones with earlier games were so freaking bad.
On June 03 2013 19:11 Tsubbi wrote: when the sh was introduced blizz said they want zerg to have a unit to finish a game with a lead, in reality it allows opponents to get back or are used in boring splitmaps lol
You just have to read an official strategy guide to realise Blizzard have nfi how their units should be used
"BradyGames brings you the perfect companion to StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm with this high-end collector's item"
It's still 'official', endorsed by Blizzard and sold on their website. They probably outsourced it because the ones with earlier games were so freaking bad.
Congrats you're good at googling and I said probably. Sorry for not having a knowledge of who made a strategy guide 10+ years ago. It was still a terrible guide endorsed by Blizzard because they have nfi/dont care. No need to be such a pedant to the original offhand comment that didn't actually state that Blizzard wrote the guides. None of this matters anyway but you're determined to nitpick every second post I do these days because I disagreed with your baiter crusade.
I actually think these swarm host plays are exciting, but a lot of people are very hateful about it. I think the main problem is still protoss death balling, not the swarm host per se.
On June 03 2013 20:08 Scarecrow wrote: Pretty cool game
I know that opinions are different, but what the hell was cool in that game!?
Both camped for like 15 minutes, than Effort rolled over with his terrible Swarm Hosts placement, he survived this long only because of good Fungals and mass Spines and Spores. I don't even want to say that sOs had more bases than Effort from the half of the game until the end. There was one or maybe two "solid" fights and that is it...
On June 03 2013 20:08 Scarecrow wrote: Pretty cool game
I know that opinions are different, but what the hell was cool in that game!?
Both camped for like 15 minutes, than Effort rolled over with his terrible Swarm Hosts placement, he survived this long only because of good Fungals and mass Spines and Spores. I don't even want to say that sOs had more bases than Effort from the half of the game until the end. There was one or maybe two "solid" fights and that is it...
I hope that you are sarcastic, really.
As a toss I enjoyed how agressively sOs expanded, his DT defence of the swarmhosts, nydus defence etc. Seemed to be a clinic on how to deal with SH play. I liked how active he was with zealot harrass (part of why he was up on bases), the templar control and the way his death ball changed its composition several times before winning with archon zealot.
i feel SNM is so passive aggressive in a combative way.... not good for casting
in a pregame talk, SNM says woongjin stars team used to be based in Yi-Tae-Yun (sp?) After game begins, Whiplash jokes "where is free from?" SNM says "I don't know" Whiplash jokes "From Yi-Tae-Yun, is the right answer" SNM goes off angrily trying to feign his knowledge ending with "Are you satisfied!" Instead, he could have simply admitted "Haha, you are right Whiplash"
edit #2: I don't mean to say that SNM shouldn't disagree with WHiplash. Disagree with analysis, relevant facts, etc. And if you don't like a joke, you can say "Dude that was a bad joke"... I just feel being passive aggressive is not the best way to deal with it........ although i shouldn't be too harsh on them I guess, 'cause they are probably really tired from casting from like 7 straight hours.
Mostly it's just like a discussion, talking about what they think is possible. It's just the choice of wording that might make it sound more 'combative', as you say, in the case of Whiplash and SNM, compared to maybe Artosis and Tasteless.
YourHarry, I don't think you correctly differentiate between actual anger and just people giving an "Oh, you're just being difficult now! XD" look or tone of voice ... Also, he said "From Aiur, is the right answer".
On June 03 2013 20:36 Ramiz1989 wrote: Hydra aggressive as usual, I like it.
yeah i don't know what free expected :-/
I guess he expected to be free to do whatever he wanted.
He expected a free win?
Something like that. :D
On June 03 2013 20:39 Ammanas wrote: Nice, now Light and Soulkey win and I will b e satisfied FPLer
Well, I don't see Woojing losing this to be honest. Of course that it can happen, but if Light now lose, Soulkey shouldn't have trouble with Bbyong, and if it gets to the Ace, it will probably be Soulkey against Cj.herO, where Soulkey got the advantage.
On June 03 2013 20:38 opterown wrote: if light and soulkey can close out the next two games that would be a good result for my 5-minute FPL
Soulkey is my team captain, so I hope Light loses, then Soulkey wins both his match plus the ace.
it's not all-kill format ^^
yes, but if light loses and soulkey wins, then there is an ace match (3-3), which allows teams to send out any player. it might have soulkey playing against herO or someone.
On June 03 2013 20:38 opterown wrote: if light and soulkey can close out the next two games that would be a good result for my 5-minute FPL
Soulkey is my team captain, so I hope Light loses, then Soulkey wins both his match plus the ace.
it's not all-kill format ^^
yes, but if light loses and soulkey wins, then there is an ace match (3-3), which allows teams to send out any player. it might have soulkey playing against herO or someone.
On June 03 2013 20:38 opterown wrote: if light and soulkey can close out the next two games that would be a good result for my 5-minute FPL
Soulkey is my team captain, so I hope Light loses, then Soulkey wins both his match plus the ace.
it's not all-kill format ^^
yes, but if light loses and soulkey wins, then there is an ace match (3-3), which allows teams to send out any player. it might have soulkey playing against herO or someone.
On June 03 2013 20:38 opterown wrote: if light and soulkey can close out the next two games that would be a good result for my 5-minute FPL
Soulkey is my team captain, so I hope Light loses, then Soulkey wins both his match plus the ace.
it's not all-kill format ^^
yes, but if light loses and soulkey wins, then there is an ace match (3-3), which allows teams to send out any player. it might have soulkey playing against herO or someone.
On June 03 2013 20:53 Cokefreak wrote:
On June 03 2013 20:51 niekoz wrote:
On June 03 2013 20:47 Gauranga wrote:
On June 03 2013 20:38 opterown wrote: if light and soulkey can close out the next two games that would be a good result for my 5-minute FPL
Soulkey is my team captain, so I hope Light loses, then Soulkey wins both his match plus the ace.
it's not all-kill format ^^
Epic fail.
Gauranga is right afaik
yes i know but he said wins both his match plus the ace so that would be 3 matches which is not possible
On June 03 2013 20:38 opterown wrote: if light and soulkey can close out the next two games that would be a good result for my 5-minute FPL
Soulkey is my team captain, so I hope Light loses, then Soulkey wins both his match plus the ace.
it's not all-kill format ^^
yes, but if light loses and soulkey wins, then there is an ace match (3-3), which allows teams to send out any player. it might have soulkey playing against herO or someone.
On June 03 2013 20:53 Cokefreak wrote:
On June 03 2013 20:51 niekoz wrote:
On June 03 2013 20:47 Gauranga wrote:
On June 03 2013 20:38 opterown wrote: if light and soulkey can close out the next two games that would be a good result for my 5-minute FPL
Soulkey is my team captain, so I hope Light loses, then Soulkey wins both his match plus the ace.
it's not all-kill format ^^
Epic fail.
Gauranga is right afaik
yes i know but he said wins both his match plus the ace so that would be 3 matches which is not possible
nono, that's correct. both "his match" and "the ace" is possible for soulkey, it means two matches?
On June 03 2013 20:38 opterown wrote: if light and soulkey can close out the next two games that would be a good result for my 5-minute FPL
Soulkey is my team captain, so I hope Light loses, then Soulkey wins both his match plus the ace.
it's not all-kill format ^^
yes, but if light loses and soulkey wins, then there is an ace match (3-3), which allows teams to send out any player. it might have soulkey playing against herO or someone.
On June 03 2013 20:53 Cokefreak wrote:
On June 03 2013 20:51 niekoz wrote:
On June 03 2013 20:47 Gauranga wrote:
On June 03 2013 20:38 opterown wrote: if light and soulkey can close out the next two games that would be a good result for my 5-minute FPL
Soulkey is my team captain, so I hope Light loses, then Soulkey wins both his match plus the ace.
it's not all-kill format ^^
Epic fail.
Gauranga is right afaik
yes i know but he said wins both his match plus the ace so that would be 3 matches which is not possible
On June 03 2013 20:38 opterown wrote: if light and soulkey can close out the next two games that would be a good result for my 5-minute FPL
Soulkey is my team captain, so I hope Light loses, then Soulkey wins both his match plus the ace.
it's not all-kill format ^^
yes, but if light loses and soulkey wins, then there is an ace match (3-3), which allows teams to send out any player. it might have soulkey playing against herO or someone.
On June 03 2013 20:53 Cokefreak wrote:
On June 03 2013 20:51 niekoz wrote:
On June 03 2013 20:47 Gauranga wrote:
On June 03 2013 20:38 opterown wrote: if light and soulkey can close out the next two games that would be a good result for my 5-minute FPL
Soulkey is my team captain, so I hope Light loses, then Soulkey wins both his match plus the ace.
it's not all-kill format ^^
Epic fail.
Gauranga is right afaik
yes i know but he said wins both his match plus the ace so that would be 3 matches which is not possible
One match + another match = 3 matches...?
well then i misunderstood what he was saying, im sorry
Anyone know why the break in between each of these matches is usually ~15 minutes? I'd like to know what they are doing to prepare the next players. Is it just procedure to double and triple check the setting/etc? Or is it purely for advertisements and what not.
On June 03 2013 21:16 Hevad Khan wrote: Anyone know why the break in between each of these matches is usually ~15 minutes? I'd like to know what they are doing to prepare the next players. Is it just procedure to double and triple check the setting/etc? Or is it purely for advertisements and what not.
PL is broadcast on TV in Korea. That time is spent showing ads.
On June 03 2013 21:16 Hevad Khan wrote: Anyone know why the break in between each of these matches is usually ~15 minutes? I'd like to know what they are doing to prepare the next players. Is it just procedure to double and triple check the setting/etc? Or is it purely for advertisements and what not.
PL is broadcast on TV in Korea. That time is spent showing ads.
does SPOTV run ads as well? i thought they were an internet channel or something in korea
On June 03 2013 21:16 Hevad Khan wrote: Anyone know why the break in between each of these matches is usually ~15 minutes? I'd like to know what they are doing to prepare the next players. Is it just procedure to double and triple check the setting/etc? Or is it purely for advertisements and what not.
PL is broadcast on TV in Korea. That time is spent showing ads.
Ah okay. Guess the simplest explanation was indeed the best one! :D
On June 03 2013 21:15 pylonsalad wrote: Would Soulkey get more FPL points if he loses this match and then goes on to win the ace?
hmm ace win +3, game loss -1 instead of +2? so ace win is +2 total, game win now is +2 total (not including appearance and win of the match for team). So no difference i think
On June 03 2013 21:16 Hevad Khan wrote: Anyone know why the break in between each of these matches is usually ~15 minutes? I'd like to know what they are doing to prepare the next players. Is it just procedure to double and triple check the setting/etc? Or is it purely for advertisements and what not.
PL is broadcast on TV in Korea. That time is spent showing ads.
does SPOTV run ads as well? i thought they were an internet channel or something in korea
This is the first year for SPOTV so I'm not really sure.
On June 03 2013 21:16 Hevad Khan wrote: Anyone know why the break in between each of these matches is usually ~15 minutes? I'd like to know what they are doing to prepare the next players. Is it just procedure to double and triple check the setting/etc? Or is it purely for advertisements and what not.
PL is broadcast on TV in Korea. That time is spent showing ads.
does SPOTV run ads as well? i thought they were an internet channel or something in korea
This is the first year for SPOTV so I'm not really sure.
On June 03 2013 21:15 pylonsalad wrote: Would Soulkey get more FPL points if he loses this match and then goes on to win the ace?
hmm ace win +3, game loss -1 instead of +2? so ace win is +2 total, game win now is +2 total (not including appearance and win of the match for team). So no difference i think
nah he would indeed get more: game win +2, team win +1, lineup +1 = 4 in total. lineup +1, team win +1, game loss -1, ace appearance +1, ace win +3 = 5 in total.
On June 03 2013 21:16 Hevad Khan wrote: Anyone know why the break in between each of these matches is usually ~15 minutes? I'd like to know what they are doing to prepare the next players. Is it just procedure to double and triple check the setting/etc? Or is it purely for advertisements and what not.
PL is broadcast on TV in Korea. That time is spent showing ads.
does SPOTV run ads as well? i thought they were an internet channel or something in korea
This is the first year for SPOTV so I'm not really sure.
On June 03 2013 21:16 Hevad Khan wrote: Anyone know why the break in between each of these matches is usually ~15 minutes? I'd like to know what they are doing to prepare the next players. Is it just procedure to double and triple check the setting/etc? Or is it purely for advertisements and what not.
PL is broadcast on TV in Korea. That time is spent showing ads.
does SPOTV run ads as well? i thought they were an internet channel or something in korea
This is the first year for SPOTV so I'm not really sure.
They're on cable afaik
So the channel is by subscription?
Yeah you need to upgrade your cable deal, luckily OGN comes free
On June 03 2013 21:37 opterown wrote: good day for my FPL (ZerO, Soulkey, Light and KassiA main team)
me too with zero and soulkey, but I accidentally had bong on there as well :/
It has probably been a great FPL day for tons of people. I guess Soulkey is one of the most picked players considering his GSL performance and his relatively low price. The same applies to sOs. And zero costing "only" 4 points and being more or less guaranteed regular on the strongest team is probably on tons of main teams, too
I think there are slightly too many Korean teams still. For instance, if NsH would disband then Jjakji would be a good pick-up and potential A-teamer for several proleague teams. As good as some KeSPA players are, we still have many subpar players make it to the proleague line-up and I just feel like it could use a higher density of amazing players.
On June 03 2013 21:48 Grumbels wrote: I think there are slightly too many Korean teams still. For instance, if NsH would disband then Jjakji would be a good pick-up and potential A-teamer for several proleague teams. As good as some KeSPA players are, we still have many subpar players make it to the proleague line-up and I just feel like it could use a higher density of amazing players.
I would just love to see a merger of GSTL and PL, or basically increase the PL to 10 teams or so and let the rest of the GSTL teams be disbanded and the good members be absorbed by existing PL teams.
Players like leenock, life etc. should be playing in PL. It's too bad the WCS structure makes it pretty difficult for players competing in NA/EU to also compete in PL. If I was life i'd definately be trying to get into PL, plenty of teams should want him. KT or SKT can definately need a good zerg.
On June 03 2013 21:48 Grumbels wrote: I think there are slightly too many Korean teams still. For instance, if NsH would disband then Jjakji would be a good pick-up and potential A-teamer for several proleague teams. As good as some KeSPA players are, we still have many subpar players make it to the proleague line-up and I just feel like it could use a higher density of amazing players.
I would just love to see a merger of GSTL and PL, or basically increase the PL to 10 teams or so and let the rest of the GSTL teams be disbanded and the good members be absorbed by existing PL teams.
Players like leenock, life etc. should be playing in PL. It's too bad the WCS structure makes it pretty difficult for players competing in NA/EU to also compete in PL. If I was life i'd definately be trying to get into PL, plenty of teams should want him. KT or SKT can definately need a good zerg.
Down the line, the most likely teams to survive are IM, ST and maybe MVP or FXO. Prime and NSH will get absorbed. Azubu is a big question mark since we know little about the organization. Axiom-Acer look solid and might last a while as well.
A unified team league would definitely be awesome.
On June 03 2013 21:48 Grumbels wrote: I think there are slightly too many Korean teams still. For instance, if NsH would disband then Jjakji would be a good pick-up and potential A-teamer for several proleague teams. As good as some KeSPA players are, we still have many subpar players make it to the proleague line-up and I just feel like it could use a higher density of amazing players.
I only count maybe 2 subpar players in this matchup (Songduri and Bong). I'd hardly call that 'many'
On June 03 2013 21:37 ymir233 wrote: SK has very interesting 3-4 unit splits where he sends that pack ahead of his army....is this a trained reaction to widow mines?
Yeah, it's the natural response to the knowledge that they have mines, isn't it? Potentially trade only minerals in order to check for mines and hopefully trigger as many of them as possible before charging in. Plus, you may see a bit of army as the zerglings/roaches die, so you can check for exact positioning as you try to trigger mines. Furthermore, if you're lucky, mines will trigger on zerglings that run into their army and damage the terran.
If you have a GSL pass, I suggest you watch those TRUE vs FanTaSy games from the Round of 32. They were cast in April, I think.
On June 03 2013 21:48 Grumbels wrote: I think there are slightly too many Korean teams still. For instance, if NsH would disband then Jjakji would be a good pick-up and potential A-teamer for several proleague teams. As good as some KeSPA players are, we still have many subpar players make it to the proleague line-up and I just feel like it could use a higher density of amazing players.
I would just love to see a merger of GSTL and PL, or basically increase the PL to 10 teams or so and let the rest of the GSTL teams be disbanded and the good members be absorbed by existing PL teams.
Players like leenock, life etc. should be playing in PL. It's too bad the WCS structure makes it pretty difficult for players competing in NA/EU to also compete in PL. If I was life i'd definately be trying to get into PL, plenty of teams should want him. KT or SKT can definately need a good zerg.
Down the line, the most likely teams to survive are IM, ST and maybe MVP or FXO. Prime and NSH will get absorbed. Azubu is a big question mark since we know little about the organization. Axiom-Acer look solid and might last a while as well.
A unified team league would definitely be awesome.
NSH isn't going to disband, they're going to be the ACE of eSF
They're sponsored by a school, unless there's a major catastrophe the sponsor will live forever~
On June 03 2013 21:48 Grumbels wrote: I think there are slightly too many Korean teams still. For instance, if NsH would disband then Jjakji would be a good pick-up and potential A-teamer for several proleague teams. As good as some KeSPA players are, we still have many subpar players make it to the proleague line-up and I just feel like it could use a higher density of amazing players.
I would just love to see a merger of GSTL and PL, or basically increase the PL to 10 teams or so and let the rest of the GSTL teams be disbanded and the good members be absorbed by existing PL teams.
Players like leenock, life etc. should be playing in PL. It's too bad the WCS structure makes it pretty difficult for players competing in NA/EU to also compete in PL. If I was life i'd definately be trying to get into PL, plenty of teams should want him. KT or SKT can definately need a good zerg.
Down the line, the most likely teams to survive are IM, ST and maybe MVP or FXO. Prime and NSH will get absorbed. Azubu is a big question mark since we know little about the organization. Axiom-Acer look solid and might last a while as well.
A unified team league would definitely be awesome.
NSH isn't going to disband, they're going to be the ACE of eSF
They're sponsored by a school, unless there's a major catastrophe the sponsor will live forever~
On June 03 2013 21:48 Grumbels wrote: I think there are slightly too many Korean teams still. For instance, if NsH would disband then Jjakji would be a good pick-up and potential A-teamer for several proleague teams. As good as some KeSPA players are, we still have many subpar players make it to the proleague line-up and I just feel like it could use a higher density of amazing players.
I would just love to see a merger of GSTL and PL, or basically increase the PL to 10 teams or so and let the rest of the GSTL teams be disbanded and the good members be absorbed by existing PL teams.
Players like leenock, life etc. should be playing in PL. It's too bad the WCS structure makes it pretty difficult for players competing in NA/EU to also compete in PL. If I was life i'd definately be trying to get into PL, plenty of teams should want him. KT or SKT can definately need a good zerg.
Down the line, the most likely teams to survive are IM, ST and maybe MVP or FXO. Prime and NSH will get absorbed. Azubu is a big question mark since we know little about the organization. Axiom-Acer look solid and might last a while as well.
A unified team league would definitely be awesome.
NSH isn't going to disband, they're going to be the ACE of eSF
They're sponsored by a school, unless there's a major catastrophe the sponsor will live forever~
One sponsor isn't always enough to sustain a team I bet though. TSL had TheHandsomeNerd but they still collapsed. Also even if they don't collapse they'll likely drift into mediocrity, with or without jjakji. They have 0 players in the GSL atm, I don't think they can stay in the esF even much longer.
On June 03 2013 21:48 Grumbels wrote: I think there are slightly too many Korean teams still. For instance, if NsH would disband then Jjakji would be a good pick-up and potential A-teamer for several proleague teams. As good as some KeSPA players are, we still have many subpar players make it to the proleague line-up and I just feel like it could use a higher density of amazing players.
I would just love to see a merger of GSTL and PL, or basically increase the PL to 10 teams or so and let the rest of the GSTL teams be disbanded and the good members be absorbed by existing PL teams.
Players like leenock, life etc. should be playing in PL. It's too bad the WCS structure makes it pretty difficult for players competing in NA/EU to also compete in PL. If I was life i'd definately be trying to get into PL, plenty of teams should want him. KT or SKT can definately need a good zerg.
Down the line, the most likely teams to survive are IM, ST and maybe MVP or FXO. Prime and NSH will get absorbed. Azubu is a big question mark since we know little about the organization. Axiom-Acer look solid and might last a while as well.
A unified team league would definitely be awesome.
NSH isn't going to disband, they're going to be the ACE of eSF
They're sponsored by a school, unless there's a major catastrophe the sponsor will live forever~
One sponsor isn't always enough to sustain a team I bet though. TSL had TheHandsomeNerd but they still collapsed. Also even if they don't collapse they'll likely drift into mediocrity, with or without jjakji. They have 0 players in the GSL atm, I don't think they can stay in the esF even much longer.
It depends on how much the team spends. A lot of teams (I believe TSL included) have to pay rent for a teamhouse, which is a hefty sum. But I heard NSH gets a practice room from the school, so there goes a huge part of the costs. NSH doesn't send its players abroad on its own time either, so travel isn't an issue. And I doubt most of the team gets a sizable, if any salary, so that's another thing.
On June 03 2013 21:48 Grumbels wrote: I think there are slightly too many Korean teams still. For instance, if NsH would disband then Jjakji would be a good pick-up and potential A-teamer for several proleague teams. As good as some KeSPA players are, we still have many subpar players make it to the proleague line-up and I just feel like it could use a higher density of amazing players.
I would just love to see a merger of GSTL and PL, or basically increase the PL to 10 teams or so and let the rest of the GSTL teams be disbanded and the good members be absorbed by existing PL teams.
Players like leenock, life etc. should be playing in PL. It's too bad the WCS structure makes it pretty difficult for players competing in NA/EU to also compete in PL. If I was life i'd definately be trying to get into PL, plenty of teams should want him. KT or SKT can definately need a good zerg.
Down the line, the most likely teams to survive are IM, ST and maybe MVP or FXO. Prime and NSH will get absorbed. Azubu is a big question mark since we know little about the organization. Axiom-Acer look solid and might last a while as well.
A unified team league would definitely be awesome.
NSH isn't going to disband, they're going to be the ACE of eSF
They're sponsored by a school, unless there's a major catastrophe the sponsor will live forever~
One sponsor isn't always enough to sustain a team I bet though. TSL had TheHandsomeNerd but they still collapsed. Also even if they don't collapse they'll likely drift into mediocrity, with or without jjakji. They have 0 players in the GSL atm, I don't think they can stay in the esF even much longer.
It depends on how much the team spends. A lot of teams (I believe TSL included) have to pay rent for a teamhouse, which is a hefty sum. But I heard NSH gets a practice room from the school, so there goes a huge part of the costs. NSH doesn't send its players abroad on its own time either, so travel isn't an issue. And I doubt most of the team gets a sizable, if any salary, so that's another thing.
I mean yeah but at that point the whole thing is a glorified clan. None of their players are doing well resultswise, and they have no space to go out and make a name for themselves at foreign events. Like I said they may not close up shop officially, but they are very quickly becoming irrelevant.
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