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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12043 Posts
June 01 2013 09:14 GMT
#6921
On June 01 2013 18:11 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2013 18:10 Qikz wrote:
On June 01 2013 18:06 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 01 2013 18:05 Qikz wrote:
On June 01 2013 18:04 Douillos wrote:
On June 01 2013 18:03 Dodgin wrote:
Alright

WHERE MY WOONGJIN BROS AT, WHO BELIEVED?




Fuck yeeeaaaaaahhhhhh


The single voice of a Woongjin star fan echos out from the back of an empty room :p


fuck you guys I'll cheer for woongjin cos woongjin is cool, and so are the fans.


and you call yourself a KT fan? You're nothing but a flimsy flip flopper who follows results hwahahaha!

Nah, I was cheering for Soulkey too, I'm not a huge Stars fan but Flash is the only Terran in my heart, well with Fantasy <3


LOL but still I can say all that and still be #1 KT fan.


Are you drunk?
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 01 2013 09:14 GMT
#6922
On June 01 2013 18:13 Wafflelisk wrote:
Oh God, what if Innovation never wins a championship?


I wouldn't be surprised if that happens, he is the first player to ever get reverse killed in the finals in GSL, this just screams mentally weak in finals to me. He could be the next MKP.
Moka
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada942 Posts
June 01 2013 09:14 GMT
#6923
On June 01 2013 18:09 Terrestrialrage wrote:
Will you kiss the statue already? Quit acting like you DIDNT just win a major tournament and give it some heart man... This half ass kissing of the trophy is disgusting and fake...

I'm sure that Soulkey is trying his best.
ヾ(@⌒_⌒@)ノ
msty
Profile Joined January 2012
Russian Federation11 Posts
June 01 2013 09:14 GMT
#6924
On June 01 2013 18:09 TimENT wrote:
I can't get over how bad that was.

Game 1: 2rax with terrible defense (yawn)
Game 2: roach/hydra timing (only close game)
Game 3: failed baneling allin (yawn)
Game 4: successful roach bane allin (yawn)
Game 5: successful roach band allin (yawn)
Game 6: failed 2rax (yawn)
Game 7: terrible macro game with terrible mistakes (yawn)

I dont even care about which player won. This is motherfucking TvZ. The best game had fucking roaches and hydras. What the hell happened? That was just sad
Worst finals ever. Worst series ever. Disgusting.


This is kinda true. game 2 was awesome and very close, but in game 7 innovation was really lost, he could have seen muta twice with his viking and he did not, therefore loosing 30 supply on failed doom drop. He was not on his best, and what helped Soulkey is that he was on fire in a hot streak, I guess that gave him confidence to not do that stupid mistakes like the ones innovation did.
scypio
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland2127 Posts
June 01 2013 09:14 GMT
#6925
On June 01 2013 18:11 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2013 17:57 scypio wrote:
This is a hearbreaking moment...

we endured so much whining... widow mines OP. Hellbats OP. Terran needs to be nerfed etc etc... only to get fifth Zerg GSL champion in a row. TT

Life
Sniper
Life
Roro
Soulkey

well done.


Blizzard cup is not gsl. Get over it...


GSL Blizzard Cup is not GSL? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_GSL_Blizzard_Cup

Yeah, right.
I play random | I like Hots | INnoVation | sOs | Tefel TOP1!
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
June 01 2013 09:14 GMT
#6926
Lol Terran players so bitter. If Innovation 4-0'd, you wouldn't be complaining.

SOULKEY YOU CHAMPION YOU!
I love crazymoving
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
June 01 2013 09:14 GMT
#6927
On June 01 2013 18:12 THM wrote:
What an epic choke by Bogus, especially the last 2 games and that 3 medivac throw. He could've even boosted away from the mutas but he wasn't looking at them at all, poor poor play that last game. Too bad.

he probably boosted on load up, so that he'd have another boost to leave the base after the drop.
whoops.

also, the mutas stayed to wait for medivacs because soulkey had just burrowed units over there and probably saw the medivacs load.
tastyminerals
Profile Joined June 2013
Andorra7 Posts
June 01 2013 09:14 GMT
#6928
Very interesting finals, not gamewise of course.

3-0 stomp without any sign of coming back for SK and then, out of a sudden 4-3 with some really shitty play by Innovation and him standing smiling on the stage as if nothing extraordinary has happened. I don't know why didn't anyone, just a single person in this thread had an idea that somebody wanted really hard to make these finals entertaining.

The only possible explanation that Innovation simply underestimated SK, but then again, why was he so calm?
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
June 01 2013 09:14 GMT
#6929
On June 01 2013 18:14 Targe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2013 18:11 nimdil wrote:
On June 01 2013 17:57 scypio wrote:
This is a hearbreaking moment...

we endured so much whining... widow mines OP. Hellbats OP. Terran needs to be nerfed etc etc... only to get fifth Zerg GSL champion in a row. TT

Life
Sniper
Life
Roro
Soulkey

well done.


Blizzard cup is not gsl. Get over it...

lol Blizzard cups count as GSL.

yes they do but technically they aren't
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
FoShao
Profile Joined November 2012
United States256 Posts
June 01 2013 09:14 GMT
#6930
weird ass finals.....
armada[sb]
Profile Joined August 2011
United States432 Posts
June 01 2013 09:15 GMT
#6931
Seems like all the people who were talking about Innovation's godlike play early in the thread are now bashing that series as if it wasn't an awesome series to watch. You're seriously going to complain about a series where a player pulled a GGplay? C'mon man!
#Hitpoint @ GameSurge (IDLE=BAN)
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
June 01 2013 09:15 GMT
#6932
On June 01 2013 18:11 WickedBit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2013 18:06 Dvriel wrote:
On June 01 2013 18:05 IshinShishi wrote:
On June 01 2013 17:58 ppshchik wrote:
On June 01 2013 17:56 Kerence wrote:
I still don't understand how Innovation managed to lose 2 games to Roach/Baneling when the only games he lost to Symbol was the same thing. Try building tanks maybe?


Soulkey is way better than Symbol's late game so Innovation cannot afford to kill his early economy with tanks. Same reason why you see Flash going 14cc a lot vs JD. You have to gain as much macro advantage as you can against a player who's equally skilled as you are.

Innovation was still decently favored vs soulkey in macro games, even after he donated the 3 medivacs, the overall supply was 140 to 137 in favor of innovation, that's how much better his macro is. He just choked really hard in the last 2 games after playing brilliantly in the first 5, even when he lost to the 2 roach/baneling allins he microed like a beast, he just didn't have the units to beat it. Sc2 can be extremely frustrating at times, then again, Innovation has never won anything.


Terrans are soooo greedy lately.You cant go for 3CC and expect to defend it all. Not even with a goodlikemicro.


No. 3CCs are not the problem. The problem is you cannot expect to go 3CCs while teching and expect to defend it all. Tanks are needed it seems, thought how it will affect the rest of the game due to first push getting delayed needs to be seen.


And thats probably why innovation didnt want to go tanks in the first place. Its not like soulkey is weak in a macro game. Maybe he didnt want the deficit of going for a few tanks against soulkey?
Kazius
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Israel1456 Posts
June 01 2013 09:15 GMT
#6933
On June 01 2013 18:10 braller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2013 18:08 Kazius wrote:
On June 01 2013 18:00 Kal_rA wrote:
On June 01 2013 17:57 Fionn wrote:
LeBogus James confirmed.

Time to go to SKT or KT to get your ring.

James got his ring. Off to get his second after tomorrow.

LeBron James hyped as the person that's going to be better than god (Jordan, in basketball) at his own game. Hugely talented, made everyone seem like scrubs. And lost in the big games to disciplined and intelligent abuse of his faults. Then he said "screw this, I'm outta here", went to a team so stacked with talent a monkey could coach it into a championship. And then he got his championships "all by himself".

Fionn hit the nail on the head.


He lost "in the big games" because his teammates were all complete scrubs. Jordan didn't win anything until he had all-stars around him either.

Please, he won 3 championships with the third best player being Horace Grant, including being the first one to win a championship without a strong 1 or 5 position. Jordan and Pippen were both awesome, but they had no talent other than those guys until Jordan's second run.
Friendship is like peeing yourself. Anyone can see it, but only you get that warm feeling.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
June 01 2013 09:15 GMT
#6934

On June 01 2013 18:10 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2013 18:06 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 01 2013 18:05 Qikz wrote:
On June 01 2013 18:04 Douillos wrote:
On June 01 2013 18:03 Dodgin wrote:
Alright

WHERE MY WOONGJIN BROS AT, WHO BELIEVED?




Fuck yeeeaaaaaahhhhhh


The single voice of a Woongjin star fan echos out from the back of an empty room :p


fuck you guys I'll cheer for woongjin cos woongjin is cool, and so are the fans.


and you call yourself a KT fan? You're nothing but a flimsy flip flopper who follows results hwahahaha!

Nah, I was cheering for Soulkey too, I'm not a huge Stars fan but Flash is the only Terran in my heart, well with Fantasy <3

KT and Stars are buddy buddy teams yo, when flash was up vs JD he practiced with them, when they were in SPL finals they practiced with them etc etc
same with Flash and Soulkey

and in my book it's the sole prohibition is cheering for SKT as a KT fan.
In the woods, there lurks..
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
June 01 2013 09:15 GMT
#6935
On June 01 2013 18:11 WickedBit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2013 18:06 Dvriel wrote:
On June 01 2013 18:05 IshinShishi wrote:
On June 01 2013 17:58 ppshchik wrote:
On June 01 2013 17:56 Kerence wrote:
I still don't understand how Innovation managed to lose 2 games to Roach/Baneling when the only games he lost to Symbol was the same thing. Try building tanks maybe?


Soulkey is way better than Symbol's late game so Innovation cannot afford to kill his early economy with tanks. Same reason why you see Flash going 14cc a lot vs JD. You have to gain as much macro advantage as you can against a player who's equally skilled as you are.

Innovation was still decently favored vs soulkey in macro games, even after he donated the 3 medivacs, the overall supply was 140 to 137 in favor of innovation, that's how much better his macro is. He just choked really hard in the last 2 games after playing brilliantly in the first 5, even when he lost to the 2 roach/baneling allins he microed like a beast, he just didn't have the units to beat it. Sc2 can be extremely frustrating at times, then again, Innovation has never won anything.


Terrans are soooo greedy lately.You cant go for 3CC and expect to defend it all. Not even with a goodlikemicro.


No. 3CCs are not the problem. The problem is you cannot expect to go 3CCs while teching and expect to defend it all. Tanks are needed it seems, thought how it will affect the rest of the game due to first push getting delayed needs to be seen.


Agreed. A lot of these games would have turned out differently if Innovation hadn't been so damn greedy and just gotten A TANK before starting stim. His problem with that series was definitely overconfidence; he thought he could deal with any kind of aggression by just scouting in just enough time and microing really well.

On the flipside, I still think Innovation is the better player, but I'm really really glad Soulkey dug deep and came back to win that series. This has got to be the most exciting GSL finals to date, excepting perhaps Mvp vs. Squirtle (and the proxy cheese that won it all :D).
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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
June 01 2013 09:15 GMT
#6936
On June 01 2013 18:11 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2013 17:57 scypio wrote:
This is a hearbreaking moment...

we endured so much whining... widow mines OP. Hellbats OP. Terran needs to be nerfed etc etc... only to get fifth Zerg GSL champion in a row. TT

Life
Sniper
Life
Roro
Soulkey

well done.


Blizzard cup is not gsl. Get over it...


Official name (from GOMTV) was "2012 GSL Blizzard Cup"
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 01 2013 09:15 GMT
#6937
On June 01 2013 18:14 AyMnRSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2013 18:09 TimENT wrote:
I can't get over how bad that was.

Game 1: 2rax with terrible defense (yawn)
Game 2: roach/hydra timing (only close game)
Game 3: failed baneling allin (yawn)
Game 4: successful roach bane allin (yawn)
Game 5: successful roach band allin (yawn)
Game 6: failed 2rax (yawn)
Game 7: terrible macro game with terrible mistakes (yawn)

I dont even care about which player won. This is motherfucking TvZ. The best game had fucking roaches and hydras. What the hell happened? That was just sad
Worst finals ever. Worst series ever. Disgusting.


Actually, the best game was game 7. Innovation just got out multitasked. It was a lot of fun to watch.


I'm not sure how you can say that? Bogus played terrible.
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[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-01 09:17:06
June 01 2013 09:15 GMT
#6938
Soukey did it. He marthafooking did it!!! When he was in his darkest hour, just one game away from being brought to his knees, he 4-0 Bogus.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
PesteNoire
Profile Joined June 2012
151 Posts
June 01 2013 09:15 GMT
#6939
Really bad series. It looked like it might of been some what saved with an epic macro 7th game but immediately thrown by throwing away 3 full medivacs away when he knew there was mutas right in that area. Just dreadful.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 01 2013 09:15 GMT
#6940
On June 01 2013 18:14 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2013 18:13 Wafflelisk wrote:
Oh God, what if Innovation never wins a championship?


I wouldn't be surprised if that happens, he is the first player to ever get reverse killed in the finals in GSL, this just screams mentally weak in finals to me. He could be the next MKP.

Imagine he loses 4-0 to Flash in his next GSL finals. and then loses to him again. it could totally happen
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