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samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
Well what I understand now is that SNM and Whiplash misled me by calling this ace match in the first place. I had to double check this season's format as well as the definition of ace match and I wasn't wrong. The thing is what they called "ace match" wasn't. Now sorry for my multiple posts but if u reply to someone with "u don't understand", and this someone actually admits he doesn't, and naturally asks for information, and no one replies, then it has to be expected... | ||
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EnumaAvalon
Philippines3613 Posts
On May 27 2013 20:46 xpaperclip wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/YapiHeG.png) Thanks everyone! Hope you enjoyed the OP, hopefully it inspires others to push what LR posts can be too! (I see lichter has already taken steps earlier today in 8th v EG-TL  )Awesome work man! Thanks! | ||
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WigglingSquid
5194 Posts
On May 27 2013 21:04 samurai80 wrote: Well what I understand now is that SNM and Whiplash misled me by calling this ace match. I had to double check this season's format as well as the definition of ace match and I wasn't wrong. The thing is what they called "ace match" wasn't. No one replying to my questions made me flood and search by myself. A deciding match has been commonly called "ace match" since the beginning of all-kill formats in GSTL, just like the player sent out in these situations was called "ace". Really, an ace match is just a match played when both sides are one game short of victory; what definition leads you to think otherwise? | ||
Jonvvv
Norway1530 Posts
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EnumaAvalon
Philippines3613 Posts
On May 27 2013 21:04 samurai80 wrote: Well what I understand now is that SNM and Whiplash misled me by calling this ace match in the first place. I had to double check this season's format as well as the definition of ace match and I wasn't wrong. The thing is what they called "ace match" wasn't. Now sorry for my multiple posts but if u reply to someone with "u don't understand", and this someone actually admits he doesn't, and naturally asks for information, and no one replies, then it has to be expected... Yeah it can be a bit confusing to new people in the scene. They call the last match the ace generally because it's when both teams send out their best players. Generally. | ||
Waxangel
United States33327 Posts
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
On May 27 2013 21:09 WigglingSquid wrote: A deciding match has been commonly called "ace match" since the beginning of all-kill formats in GSTL, just like the player sent out in these situations was called "ace". Really, an ace match is just a match played when both sides are one game short of victory; what definition leads you to think otherwise? People call the final game in a BO3/5/7 between two individuals an ace match. An ace match should be the match where you send out your ace players to try and win the series. Which you can't do in all-kill format because often the ace has already been knocked out, and one team's final player is going to be whoever has managed to make it that far. And ace matches came before GSTL, they were part of proleague, and part of the non-WL proleague format matches. WL has all-kill potential, regular team matches have an Ace match. Ace match is a horribly misused term to the point where it's meaningless these days. | ||
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Brett
Australia3820 Posts
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samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
On May 27 2013 21:09 WigglingSquid wrote: A deciding match has been commonly called "ace match" since the beginning of all-kill formats in GSTL, just like the player sent out in these situations was called "ace". Really, an ace match is just a match played when both sides are one game short of victory; what definition leads you to think otherwise? I mention the definition used here : http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Proleague#Rules. In this format, in the case of a 3-3 tie, one player of each team can be sent a second time. I know this is in the case of the proleague format and not for the all-kill format, but for a moment I thought they also modified the all-kill format so we can have an ace match with someone who has already played. Which is why I got a bit confused. | ||
NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
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samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
On May 27 2013 21:17 Lonyo wrote: People call the final game in a BO3/5/7 between two individuals an ace match. An ace match should be the match where you send out your ace players to try and win the series. Which you can't do in all-kill format because often the ace has already been knocked out, and one team's final player is going to be whoever has managed to make it that far. And ace matches came before GSTL, they were part of proleague, and part of the non-WL proleague format matches. WL has all-kill potential, regular team matches have an Ace match. Ace match is a horribly misused term to the point where it's meaningless these days. Thank u sir, this is very clear. I m actually not new to SC2 scene, and now that people mentions it, I must have heard the term in GSTL too. It's just that I haven't watched too much Proleague in winner format yet (at least I missed all the 4-3 series) and had got used to the ace match in non winner format Proleague. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
Rain called my bluff and rivered the hell out of my ass  | ||
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eurTsItniH
887 Posts
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
Rain so clutch. | ||
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lolmlg
619 Posts
On May 27 2013 21:20 samurai80 wrote: I mention the definition used here : http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Proleague#Rules. In this format, in the case of a 3-3 tie, one player of each team can be sent a second time. I know this is in the case of the proleague format and not for the all-kill format, but for a moment I thought they also modified the all-kill format so we can have an ace match with someone who has already played. Which is why I got a bit confused. This is what an ace match is. It doesn't apply to any other kind of series. Casters in the SC2 scene have been misusing the term horribly for quite a while now. | ||
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zyzq
United States3123 Posts
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On May 27 2013 22:32 lolmlg wrote: This is what an ace match is. It doesn't apply to any other kind of series. Casters in the SC2 scene have been misusing the term horribly for quite a while now. The usage of the word "ace" to mean someone outstanding or exceptional only began to be used during World War I for fighter pilots who shot down multiple enemy planes. This is the meaning that is used for that one player, chosen at the end of a series of games, who fights to decide the outcome (since he is the best, or someone exceptional). Before that the word meant something similar to "one", such as a single mark on a die, because it is taken from latin, where it meant "one unit". Based on this definition, using "ace match" to mean the last match with both teams down to one player, is arguably suitable. :p | ||
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Goldfish
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sparklyresidue
United States5523 Posts
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PVJ
Hungary5214 Posts
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