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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
May 23 2013 10:19 GMT
#1141
On May 23 2013 19:17 DownMaxX wrote:
Innovation has now officially dropped 2 TvZ's since HotS launch o__o


3.

Leenock cut him too
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Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
May 23 2013 10:19 GMT
#1142
It's ironic that Innovation is so good that his series become boring to watch.
Sludgepapa
Profile Joined June 2012
United States14 Posts
May 23 2013 10:19 GMT
#1143
On May 23 2013 19:17 Type|NarutO wrote:
BoguS was greedy as hell and Symbol punished it, thats really all to it.


Oh definitly, I doubt that Innovation will do that build again in this series.
Jerom
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands588 Posts
May 23 2013 10:19 GMT
#1144
On May 23 2013 19:15 Fusilero wrote:
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On May 23 2013 19:15 RogerChillingworth wrote:
On May 23 2013 19:14 Jerom wrote:
lame. Symbol is officially the most boring player ever.


only because you said it, Jerom.

Jerom is the officiator of fun, only where he decrees fun is where fun will be present.

Didn't you know yet ?
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-23 10:19:35
May 23 2013 10:19 GMT
#1145
On May 23 2013 19:18 Tsubbi wrote:
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On May 23 2013 19:17 Fenrax wrote:
On May 23 2013 19:16 iky43210 wrote:
People are throwing the words build order wins today like if they know what they're talking about.


but this was a prime example of a BO win


wtf its not, bo wins happen as long as both players do builds without information of what opponents are doing


No. Thats a coinflip. A build order win can very well be a reaction to something you see or do you want to argue that you cannot choose a build order win when getting information? ...
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Pwnzer
Profile Joined June 2011
United States617 Posts
May 23 2013 10:19 GMT
#1146
On May 23 2013 19:17 opterown wrote:
people yelling about BO wins are just haters

symbol gonna symbol up and be the #1 RTS player of ALL time


lol you've really latched on to this whole "X is the best X of all time" thing huh?
Herp Derp
Deleted User 261926
Profile Joined April 2012
960 Posts
May 23 2013 10:19 GMT
#1147
On May 23 2013 19:17 liberate71 wrote:
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On May 23 2013 19:16 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
On May 23 2013 19:15 liberate71 wrote:
On May 23 2013 19:14 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On May 23 2013 19:07 liberate71 wrote:
On May 23 2013 19:06 AlternativeEgo wrote:
This "Innovation" guy seems to be pretty good. Bonbano material for sure.


That's not italian


Why should it be Italian? :D


To be the best player of all time, the true bonjwa of everything - one must Bonjourno!


bongiorno - -


NesTea?


Buongiorno ;_;
jackdaleaper
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines1216 Posts
May 23 2013 10:19 GMT
#1148
On May 23 2013 19:16 NovemberstOrm wrote:
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On May 23 2013 19:15 DustbinBieber wrote:
Still astonished by the fact that you can win on SC2 with such an easy-to-execute build, especially against a much much much better player than you.

when you play greedy you get punished, playing greedy is a risk and he got punished for it.


Exactly, if a zerg can hatch first and lose to a cannon rush zvp why not a terran lose to a bane bust if he goes 3 cc early?
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17739 Posts
May 23 2013 10:19 GMT
#1149
On May 23 2013 19:19 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
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On May 23 2013 19:17 DownMaxX wrote:
Innovation has now officially dropped 2 TvZ's since HotS launch o__o


3.

Leenock cut him too

oh yea that's right, gj Leenock
"Expert" mods4ever.com
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
May 23 2013 10:20 GMT
#1150
are people seriously crying about a baneling bust?
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
May 23 2013 10:20 GMT
#1151
On May 23 2013 19:17 Vorenius wrote:
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On May 23 2013 19:10 Javah wrote:
On May 23 2013 19:09 papaz wrote:
how good was Innovation in BW?

Top 10 player at the end of BW era?

Probably the 3rd best T after Flash and Fantasy. So overall top10 I guess.

Baby, Reality, Leta

No way he was top10. He would probably be around top15-20 to most people.

how dare u forget SEA!
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
May 23 2013 10:20 GMT
#1152
On May 23 2013 19:17 negativedge wrote:
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On May 23 2013 19:14 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On May 23 2013 19:08 DemigodcelpH wrote:
On May 23 2013 19:06 n.DieJokes wrote:
On May 23 2013 19:05 ShroudeD wrote:
On May 23 2013 19:04 Kasaraki wrote:
Such bad play by Symbol, depressing to watch, and I don't even like him.

It's not like symbol is playing badly.Innovation is just better

He's playing kinda badly...


Symbol went full masters league with that 30 second supply block before his cheese. He's not playing good, and didn't even deserve to get to RO4 IMO.

Yes, didn't deserve RO4, same as Bomber, LosirA and RorO didn't deserve to get to the Ro8, or Flying to be in Code S at all. GSL system is flawed, you have to live with it.


you're right, we should just have a system where we poll fans to ask who are the best players and then seed them that way and then ask the fans again and reward wins based on the polls. only way to get a TRUE champion

What? You didn't use your brain for 5 seconds before writing that, did you? There are a lot better ways to organize the league and system can be a lot better.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28535 Posts
May 23 2013 10:20 GMT
#1153
On May 23 2013 19:17 opterown wrote:
people yelling about BO wins are just haters

symbol gonna symbol up and be the #1 RTS player of ALL time

He will be LEGENDARY
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Wertheron
Profile Joined October 2011
France439 Posts
May 23 2013 10:20 GMT
#1154
On May 23 2013 19:18 BackSideAttack wrote:
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On May 23 2013 19:17 mec wrote:
On May 23 2013 19:15 DustbinBieber wrote:
Still astonished by the fact that you can win on SC2 with such an easy-to-execute build, especially against a much much much better player than you.


Astonished by a build order win? You are new to Starcraft arent you?


Blizzard designed the game this way to give the foreigners a chance. Little did they know that the Koreans would do it better.


Yes and illuminati controls Blizzard who want to dominate the world :p

Like i said, it's a strategic game, you need to adapt your strategy and don't go in a blind strat which could be punish by the strat of the opponent.
kubiks
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1328 Posts
May 23 2013 10:20 GMT
#1155
On May 23 2013 19:17 Incognoto wrote:
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On May 23 2013 19:16 Thinasy wrote:
On May 23 2013 19:15 DustbinBieber wrote:
Still astonished by the fact that you can win on SC2 with such an easy-to-execute build, especially against a much much much better player than you.


Well, he did go 3 command centers mate


It's not that you can win against a much, much better player than you in sc2. It's that you can punish anyone who plays too greedy.

Glad he could get that baneling bust in, would have been a big shame to see a 4 - 0 sweep. Though I don't see him winning next game.


Fact is, if Innovation was THAT confident in his macro games, he wouldn't do greedy builds.
I think the meaning of symbol first game (like roro's) was "look I'm not bad in macro game, if you're not greedy you can loose"
Juanald you're my hero I miss you -> best troll ever on TL <3
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
May 23 2013 10:20 GMT
#1156
So symbol is the bestfou of hots i guess?
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
May 23 2013 10:20 GMT
#1157
On May 23 2013 19:19 Karpfen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 19:17 liberate71 wrote:
On May 23 2013 19:16 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
On May 23 2013 19:15 liberate71 wrote:
On May 23 2013 19:14 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On May 23 2013 19:07 liberate71 wrote:
On May 23 2013 19:06 AlternativeEgo wrote:
This "Innovation" guy seems to be pretty good. Bonbano material for sure.


That's not italian


Why should it be Italian? :D


To be the best player of all time, the true bonjwa of everything - one must Bonjourno!


bongiorno - -


NesTea?


Buongiorno ;_;


:[

We should stick to bonjovi
Terran & Potato Salad.
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
May 23 2013 10:21 GMT
#1158
On May 23 2013 19:18 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 19:16 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On May 23 2013 19:14 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On May 23 2013 19:13 Tsubbi wrote:
On May 23 2013 19:12 T.O.P. wrote:
Symbol with build order win, his best chance.


its not a bo win, it was a reaciton to what he scouted, bad play by innovation actually


Innovation went for a third CC before his factory. It wasn't "bad play" it was "greedy play". If he had of went Factory and then 3rd CC, innovation could have held the attack.

And he didnt scan the natural, which he did the last games.


but not at that timing. He scans the natural somewhere around 9 or 10mins, not to prevent a 20drone baneling bust...

hm, yeah you are right. i just thought in this game he would scan earlier cause he did the uber fast 3rd CC.
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liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
May 23 2013 10:21 GMT
#1159
On May 23 2013 19:19 Karpfen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 19:17 liberate71 wrote:
On May 23 2013 19:16 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
On May 23 2013 19:15 liberate71 wrote:
On May 23 2013 19:14 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On May 23 2013 19:07 liberate71 wrote:
On May 23 2013 19:06 AlternativeEgo wrote:
This "Innovation" guy seems to be pretty good. Bonbano material for sure.


That's not italian


Why should it be Italian? :D


To be the best player of all time, the true bonjwa of everything - one must Bonjourno!


bongiorno - -


NesTea?


Buongiorno ;_;


I knew a guy called Juan Bjorno... i'm lieing.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
May 23 2013 10:21 GMT
#1160
INnoVation you don't need to play greedy. Play standard and you'll probably win regardless.
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