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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 26 2013 18:55 GMT
#3581
On April 27 2013 03:54 Baituri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 03:54 TheSir wrote:
Huk vs Grubby: 1-0

Stream?

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/SchAmToo
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Knowerz
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada65 Posts
April 26 2013 18:55 GMT
#3582
On April 27 2013 03:48 Killcani wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 03:42 Knowerz wrote:
On April 27 2013 03:35 Killcani wrote:
On April 27 2013 03:33 Knowerz wrote:
On April 27 2013 03:31 Sated wrote:
On April 27 2013 03:29 Killcani wrote:
and this is why you use GSLs group system

Yeah, I don't get why they're not using that system... it's clearly the superior method.



With WCS using that system it would seem too... utilised, I think.

I like this format for the novelty, and DH was been using it successfully.


But with GSLs system you get less matches which is good for this many players and you won't have tiebreakers or any unnecessary matches where both are qualified like Huk vs Leenock. Where are the downsides to that?.


Well there's a few things.

First, as far as I understand the matches like Huk V Leenock still help with the seeding into the next round, so though it's not huge, it's still preferable to be in a group with two second place finishers and a first than the other way around (unless I'm wrong about the seeding)

Also, it means the players still need to play everyone in the group, so they have to show off strategies and MU builds they might not need to in the GSL-style, so it gives all players in the tournament more information.

It also gives all the players who are competing more games - after all these tournaments are as much about giving the players a nice experience as it is for the fans.

As for the negative of the tiebreakers, as we've seen they are relatively rare (31 of 32 went through no problem), and with the number of streams there's usually some other games to watch - and in addition they do cap it at 2 tiebreakers, which is a nice compromise - it theoretically should allow the more skilled players to advance.


I quess it's all about opinions as everything you said as "positive" sounds bad too me. I'm looking at it from the perspective of a viewer who wants to watch an exciting show so things like Huk vs Leenock are pretty boring to watch. Besides sometimes it's not even beneficial to get 1st place in your group and that makes it even worse.

More games = better experience? What makes you so certain that they want to play 10+hours of tournament games?.




Of course more games is a better experience - at least for the majority of the players. Unless you're top 16, you're only getting the one day of play for your trip to the event, so it's much better to have it full of games.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
April 26 2013 18:55 GMT
#3583
On April 27 2013 03:54 TheSir wrote:
Huk vs Grubby: 1-0


GOd damnit. GRUBBY FIGHTING!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
April 26 2013 18:55 GMT
#3584
Luci T_T paid no attention to the vikings
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
April 26 2013 18:55 GMT
#3585
On April 27 2013 03:54 TheSir wrote:
Huk vs Grubby: 1-0

nooooooooooo
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Gonff
Profile Joined May 2010
United States686 Posts
April 26 2013 18:55 GMT
#3586
huuuge fungals from Yugioh just killed all of Lucifron's vikings though...
Mackus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1681 Posts
April 26 2013 18:55 GMT
#3587
Yugioh just caught like 13 vikings with 1 fungal, definite game changer there.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 26 2013 18:55 GMT
#3588
On April 27 2013 03:49 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
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On April 27 2013 03:48 Plansix wrote:
On April 27 2013 03:43 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On April 27 2013 03:41 Lonyo wrote:
On April 27 2013 03:41 Shellshock1122 wrote:
TLO going to deny ForGG #1 Aligulac ranking

DH trying to deny WCS America #1 worst run tournament ranking.


Any hackers in DreamHack?
Any unfair disqualifications in DreamHack?
Any denial of participation in DreamHack?
Any admins censoring or hiding information that should be public in DreamHack?

Sit down son.


Hey, they have a whole second day. They could hit Artosis in the face with a shovel and DQ all the Swedish players for being do handsome. And they did kill Liquipedia, after all. #onestepcloser


Lies, Artosis is by far the most handsome nerd at the event.


Its true. They could DQ Artosis and give Incontrol the head caster spot. And DQ all the Korean players for using Korean computer products and give all the slots to Chinese players instead, who will use Razor Products.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10131 Posts
April 26 2013 18:55 GMT
#3589
On April 27 2013 03:55 StarVe wrote:
Luci T_T paid no attention to the vikings


That was a massive fungal chain haaha.

Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
April 26 2013 18:55 GMT
#3590
Hellbats lol such fun.
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
April 26 2013 18:55 GMT
#3591
On April 27 2013 03:53 Mackus wrote:
Yugioh demonstrating how much BL/Infestor has become irrelevant in HOTS.


chain fungal still very relevant
Terran & Potato Salad.
Baituri
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands1501 Posts
April 26 2013 18:56 GMT
#3592
On April 27 2013 03:55 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 03:54 Baituri wrote:
On April 27 2013 03:54 TheSir wrote:
Huk vs Grubby: 1-0

Stream?

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/SchAmToo

Thanks!
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8600 Posts
April 26 2013 18:56 GMT
#3593
On April 27 2013 03:55 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 03:54 TheSir wrote:
Huk vs Grubby: 1-0


GOd damnit. GRUBBY FIGHTING!


FIGHTING!!!

SOO frustrating now this schamtoo guy's SC2 crashed and I won't see game 2 T_T
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
April 26 2013 18:56 GMT
#3594
Polt 1-0 Snaffer
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
April 26 2013 18:56 GMT
#3595
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409604
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
April 26 2013 18:56 GMT
#3596
On April 27 2013 03:53 Mackus wrote:
Yugioh demonstrating how much BL/Infestor has become irrelevant in HOTS.

and how amazing the infestor still is
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
April 26 2013 18:56 GMT
#3597
On April 27 2013 03:56 Fionn wrote:
Polt 1-0 Snaffer


Upset of the year, calling it right now.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
April 26 2013 18:56 GMT
#3598
i hate the fact players resources are at bottom
Stork[gm]
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10131 Posts
April 26 2013 18:57 GMT
#3599
Oh Luci going full foreigner against 20 infestors
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
April 26 2013 18:57 GMT
#3600
On April 27 2013 03:54 TheSir wrote:
Huk vs Grubby: 1-0

Sheeeeet. Grubby you can pull it together!
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
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