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Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
April 22 2013 10:12 GMT
#361
On April 22 2013 19:06 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 19:03 capiston wrote:
On April 22 2013 19:02 Clefairy wrote:
On April 22 2013 19:02 Ketch wrote:
On April 22 2013 19:01 Clefairy wrote:
Taeja winning even with terrible macro


Terrible macro? He was making 5 SCVs at the same time!

He had above 600 minerals for most of the game even till the end without being maxed.

Yeah. But he always plays like that...

taeja could never macro, even when he owned everyone his macro sucked

99% of Taeja's wins are macro games and you say his macro sux lol
MosART
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1899 Posts
April 22 2013 10:12 GMT
#362
Come on, Alive!
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
April 22 2013 10:12 GMT
#363
I think it comes down to mech being too easy to take advantage of, mech is quite terrible unless you are a 600 apm robot that makes perfect moves everywhere, otherwise it's bio trolling here and then trolling there and back again, then suddenly you are caught unsieged and that's game. I saw byun getting out maneuvered by random NA terrans that would never beat him if he played standard, mech is just bad.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
April 22 2013 10:13 GMT
#364
On April 22 2013 19:10 EpiK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 19:07 dddoushio wrote:
On April 22 2013 19:02 Big J wrote:
is there a way to turn of the bias in those casters?
start of the game: "Innovation so good" x1000
Taeja stomps Innovations army: "Taeja got lucky in that engagement"
...

You seem pretty biased yourself.

Taeja didn't win that, Innovation lost it. Not scouting and being careless while attempting to mech is a recipe for disaster, even when you have a huge lead.

Jesus, too many bogus fanboys in here. Winning the game is usually about making fewer mistakes than your opponent and exploiting your opponent's mistakes. Taeja was the better player that game in both aspects.

up until that decisive engagement, everyone in this LR is like wtf Taeja why so bad
dddoushio
Profile Joined November 2012
81 Posts
April 22 2013 10:13 GMT
#365
On April 22 2013 19:10 EpiK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 19:07 dddoushio wrote:
On April 22 2013 19:02 Big J wrote:
is there a way to turn of the bias in those casters?
start of the game: "Innovation so good" x1000
Taeja stomps Innovations army: "Taeja got lucky in that engagement"
...

You seem pretty biased yourself.

Taeja didn't win that, Innovation lost it. Not scouting and being careless while attempting to mech is a recipe for disaster, even when you have a huge lead.

Jesus, too many bogus fanboys in here. Winning the game is usually about making less mistakes than your opponent. Taeja was the better player that game.


Excuse me? When did I ever say Taeja played bad? In fact, unless I'm having a stroke, I'm pretty sure I outlined several massive mistakes by Innovation that game.

I'm just pointing out that it was Innovation's game to lose. No amount of micro or good decision making would have saved Taeja had Innovation played slightly better.
Altern
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1053 Posts
April 22 2013 10:13 GMT
#366
hyvaa with the Korean afro
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
April 22 2013 10:13 GMT
#367
On April 22 2013 19:13 Arceus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 19:10 EpiK wrote:
On April 22 2013 19:07 dddoushio wrote:
On April 22 2013 19:02 Big J wrote:
is there a way to turn of the bias in those casters?
start of the game: "Innovation so good" x1000
Taeja stomps Innovations army: "Taeja got lucky in that engagement"
...

You seem pretty biased yourself.

Taeja didn't win that, Innovation lost it. Not scouting and being careless while attempting to mech is a recipe for disaster, even when you have a huge lead.

Jesus, too many bogus fanboys in here. Winning the game is usually about making fewer mistakes than your opponent and exploiting your opponent's mistakes. Taeja was the better player that game in both aspects.

up until that decisive engagement, everyone in this LR is like wtf Taeja why so bad

and yet innovation couldn't close the game could he?
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
April 22 2013 10:14 GMT
#368
On April 22 2013 19:12 IshinShishi wrote:
I think it comes down to mech being too easy to take advantage of, mech is quite terrible unless you are a 600 apm robot that makes perfect moves everywhere, otherwise it's bio trolling here and then trolling there and back again, then suddenly you are caught unsieged and that's game. I saw byun getting out maneuvered by random NA terrans that would never beat him if he played standard, mech is just bad.

And/ or bio is too good.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
rj rl
Profile Joined May 2012
648 Posts
April 22 2013 10:14 GMT
#369
On April 22 2013 19:10 EpiK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 19:07 dddoushio wrote:
On April 22 2013 19:02 Big J wrote:
is there a way to turn of the bias in those casters?
start of the game: "Innovation so good" x1000
Taeja stomps Innovations army: "Taeja got lucky in that engagement"
...

You seem pretty biased yourself.

Taeja didn't win that, Innovation lost it. Not scouting and being careless while attempting to mech is a recipe for disaster, even when you have a huge lead.

Jesus, too many bogus fanboys in here. Winning the game is usually about making fewer mistakes than your opponent and exploiting your opponent's mistakes. Taeja was the better player that game in both aspects.

actually he made a valid point and all i see is 5 pages of taeja fanboys circle-jerking his victory.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
April 22 2013 10:15 GMT
#370
On April 22 2013 19:13 Arceus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 19:10 EpiK wrote:
On April 22 2013 19:07 dddoushio wrote:
On April 22 2013 19:02 Big J wrote:
is there a way to turn of the bias in those casters?
start of the game: "Innovation so good" x1000
Taeja stomps Innovations army: "Taeja got lucky in that engagement"
...

You seem pretty biased yourself.

Taeja didn't win that, Innovation lost it. Not scouting and being careless while attempting to mech is a recipe for disaster, even when you have a huge lead.

Jesus, too many bogus fanboys in here. Winning the game is usually about making fewer mistakes than your opponent and exploiting your opponent's mistakes. Taeja was the better player that game in both aspects.

up until that decisive engagement, everyone in this LR is like wtf Taeja why so bad

Stop pointing out hypocrisy of LRs! :D
Stork[gm]
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
April 22 2013 10:15 GMT
#371
On April 22 2013 19:12 IshinShishi wrote:
I think it comes down to mech being too easy to take advantage of, mech is quite terrible unless you are a 600 apm robot that makes perfect moves everywhere, otherwise it's bio trolling here and then trolling there and back again, then suddenly you are caught unsieged and that's game. I saw byun getting out maneuvered by random NA terrans that would never beat him if he played standard, mech is just bad.


Mech has distinctive advantages, but it's hard to rebuild. So once you lose that huge mech army it's almost always over. Sort of similar to protoss losing it's tech units in late game engagements. Mech's strength is that it's got one, big, strong push but if it fails then you're in trouble.
ChoDing
Profile Joined November 2009
United States740 Posts
April 22 2013 10:16 GMT
#372
kk aLive got this ez pz
관광 since 2008. Master of Cheese. God of Heartbreak Ridge.
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 10:17:00
April 22 2013 10:16 GMT
#373
On April 22 2013 19:13 EpiK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 19:13 Arceus wrote:
On April 22 2013 19:10 EpiK wrote:
On April 22 2013 19:07 dddoushio wrote:
On April 22 2013 19:02 Big J wrote:
is there a way to turn of the bias in those casters?
start of the game: "Innovation so good" x1000
Taeja stomps Innovations army: "Taeja got lucky in that engagement"
...

You seem pretty biased yourself.

Taeja didn't win that, Innovation lost it. Not scouting and being careless while attempting to mech is a recipe for disaster, even when you have a huge lead.

Jesus, too many bogus fanboys in here. Winning the game is usually about making fewer mistakes than your opponent and exploiting your opponent's mistakes. Taeja was the better player that game in both aspects.

up until that decisive engagement, everyone in this LR is like wtf Taeja why so bad

and yet innovation couldn't close the game could he?


I mean, winning the game doesnt make yourself a better player. lets be completely honest here, Bogus fucked up and nothing else
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
April 22 2013 10:16 GMT
#374
On April 22 2013 19:06 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 19:03 capiston wrote:
On April 22 2013 19:02 Clefairy wrote:
On April 22 2013 19:02 Ketch wrote:
On April 22 2013 19:01 Clefairy wrote:
Taeja winning even with terrible macro


Terrible macro? He was making 5 SCVs at the same time!

He had above 600 minerals for most of the game even till the end without being maxed.

Yeah. But he always plays like that...

taeja could never macro, even when he owned everyone his macro sucked


"<X> could never macro, even when he owned everyone his macro sucked"

Noone in their right mind would fill that X with Taeja... sounds like youre talking about July
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
April 22 2013 10:17 GMT
#375
I wonder why there are so few hard air transitions when players mech, Innovation had all the time and money he wanted. Attacking into a maxed Taeja is always a very risky move!
"NO" -Has
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
April 22 2013 10:17 GMT
#376
On April 22 2013 19:16 Arceus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 19:13 EpiK wrote:
On April 22 2013 19:13 Arceus wrote:
On April 22 2013 19:10 EpiK wrote:
On April 22 2013 19:07 dddoushio wrote:
On April 22 2013 19:02 Big J wrote:
is there a way to turn of the bias in those casters?
start of the game: "Innovation so good" x1000
Taeja stomps Innovations army: "Taeja got lucky in that engagement"
...

You seem pretty biased yourself.

Taeja didn't win that, Innovation lost it. Not scouting and being careless while attempting to mech is a recipe for disaster, even when you have a huge lead.

Jesus, too many bogus fanboys in here. Winning the game is usually about making fewer mistakes than your opponent and exploiting your opponent's mistakes. Taeja was the better player that game in both aspects.

up until that decisive engagement, everyone in this LR is like wtf Taeja why so bad

and yet innovation couldn't close the game could he?


I mean, winning the gaming doesnt make yourself a better player. lets be completely honest here, Bogus fucked up and nothing else


Not fucking up makes you a better player though

"oh hey, you won that olympic gold medal, but only cause i fucked up"
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
capiston
Profile Joined February 2011
France372 Posts
April 22 2013 10:18 GMT
#377
On April 22 2013 19:12 Evil_Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 19:06 teddyoojo wrote:
On April 22 2013 19:03 capiston wrote:
On April 22 2013 19:02 Clefairy wrote:
On April 22 2013 19:02 Ketch wrote:
On April 22 2013 19:01 Clefairy wrote:
Taeja winning even with terrible macro


Terrible macro? He was making 5 SCVs at the same time!

He had above 600 minerals for most of the game even till the end without being maxed.

Yeah. But he always plays like that...

taeja could never macro, even when he owned everyone his macro sucked

99% of Taeja's wins are macro games and you say his macro sux lol

Even when he was the best terran in the world and almost win IPL TAC, his mineral increased way too fast. His macro don't sucks, but it's really not its best strenght
TaeJa | Maru | DRG | MKP
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 10:19:30
April 22 2013 10:18 GMT
#378
the breaks are too damn long. It's really annoying to have to wait so long for the next game

and now Alive even leaves the booth. I'll go for a cigarette, I hope the game will be on the way when I'm back...
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
April 22 2013 10:18 GMT
#379
On April 22 2013 19:16 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 19:06 teddyoojo wrote:
On April 22 2013 19:03 capiston wrote:
On April 22 2013 19:02 Clefairy wrote:
On April 22 2013 19:02 Ketch wrote:
On April 22 2013 19:01 Clefairy wrote:
Taeja winning even with terrible macro


Terrible macro? He was making 5 SCVs at the same time!

He had above 600 minerals for most of the game even till the end without being maxed.

Yeah. But he always plays like that...

taeja could never macro, even when he owned everyone his macro sucked


"<X> could never macro, even when he owned everyone his macro sucked"

Noone in their right mind would fill that X with Taeja... sounds like youre talking about July

July used to have sick macro, it might be blasphemy but I think Boxer best suits that sentence.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
April 22 2013 10:20 GMT
#380
On April 22 2013 19:18 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 19:16 liberate71 wrote:
On April 22 2013 19:06 teddyoojo wrote:
On April 22 2013 19:03 capiston wrote:
On April 22 2013 19:02 Clefairy wrote:
On April 22 2013 19:02 Ketch wrote:
On April 22 2013 19:01 Clefairy wrote:
Taeja winning even with terrible macro


Terrible macro? He was making 5 SCVs at the same time!

He had above 600 minerals for most of the game even till the end without being maxed.

Yeah. But he always plays like that...

taeja could never macro, even when he owned everyone his macro sucked


"<X> could never macro, even when he owned everyone his macro sucked"

Noone in their right mind would fill that X with Taeja... sounds like youre talking about July

July used to have sick macro, it might be blasphemy but I think Boxer best suits that sentence.

I think Boxer himself wouldn't be angry. It was pretty much established he preffered to micro his 2 dropships than care about macro.
Stork[gm]
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