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0dem
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany129 Posts
April 22 2013 19:21 GMT
#21
On April 23 2013 04:19 Grovbolle wrote:
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On April 23 2013 04:14 ChaosArcher wrote:
On April 23 2013 02:19 NovaMB wrote:
On April 23 2013 02:16 ChaosArcher wrote:
HeroMarine top 3 foreign Terran?
This split, this macro, so gosu


He is not that far yet (not close imo), but I'm kinda worried for Germany/Europe when he gets to play fulltime


Hm maybe not there yet, but pretty close.
Name more then 3 foreign Terrans that are better than him.

Lucifron, kas, demuslim, Happy


I agree with you but i think that heromarine isnt far off. The splits of him are insanely good imo. He is just 15 years old and i hope he will improve his play even more.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 19:22:31
April 22 2013 19:21 GMT
#22
On April 23 2013 04:14 ChaosArcher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 02:19 NovaMB wrote:
On April 23 2013 02:16 ChaosArcher wrote:
HeroMarine top 3 foreign Terran?
This split, this macro, so gosu


He is not that far yet (not close imo), but I'm kinda worried for Germany/Europe when he gets to play fulltime


Hm maybe not there yet, but pretty close.
Name more then 3 foreign Terrans that are better than him.

We can't really say that until we see foreign Terrans play more HotS.

Luci and Happy have been very good in HotS, Kas should be good but I personally have seen maybe three series of him in HotS, so I can't judge. Thorzain was decent but he lost every series I've seen him play, he should be better than that. Dayshi has been quite good recently, and Heromarine isn't the only up and coming player who is making waves, you can put Bunny under the same category. Demuslim is in NA, but he's good.

We need to have more tournaments happen so we get a bigger sample size of games to draw conclusions from. So far the only thing I know is that I don't know much.
0dem
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany129 Posts
April 22 2013 19:24 GMT
#23
is it just me, or are some others having problems with twitch as well?
Ahelvin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France1866 Posts
April 22 2013 19:26 GMT
#24
God, those hellbats... Can TLO actually play Ling/Bane against this style, or are some kind of roaches mandatory?

Any opinion from a good zerg?
Join the Liquipedia Zerg Project ! PM me for more information :).
SCvanTango
Profile Joined August 2010
Switzerland64 Posts
April 22 2013 20:05 GMT
#25
woah, epic series, especially the last games between TLO and HeroMarine

Thanks for making this happen
SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
April 22 2013 20:05 GMT
#26
Heromarine, man, Heromarine...
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
April 22 2013 20:05 GMT
#27
Heromarine so strong!
baeric
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany649 Posts
April 22 2013 20:07 GMT
#28
Heromarine is definitly that next terran hope. With Take's support and with a good clan like mouz he is could be the next big thing!
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4523 Posts
April 22 2013 20:09 GMT
#29
On April 23 2013 04:26 Ahelvin wrote:
God, those hellbats... Can TLO actually play Ling/Bane against this style, or are some kind of roaches mandatory?

Any opinion from a good zerg?


there is no unit that can trade cost efficiently with a 100 minerals 0 gas 2 supply unit that does that much damage in regular fights, 1 shots lings, owns banelings, does a great job tanking, owns mineral lines in seconds, and compliments every other terran army amazingly well.
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Rif_king
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada66 Posts
April 22 2013 20:11 GMT
#30
Big love and thanks to Kaspersky for making this all happen! Hope to see many more KOTH's in the future
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
April 22 2013 20:15 GMT
#31
congratz heromarine!
ChaosArcher
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany956 Posts
April 22 2013 20:15 GMT
#32
On April 23 2013 05:09 Liquid`Ret wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 04:26 Ahelvin wrote:
God, those hellbats... Can TLO actually play Ling/Bane against this style, or are some kind of roaches mandatory?

Any opinion from a good zerg?


there is no unit that can trade cost efficiently with a 100 minerals 0 gas 2 supply unit that does that much damage in regular fights, 1 shots lings, owns banelings, does a great job tanking, owns mineral lines in seconds, and compliments every other terran army amazingly well.


So true.
They even feel like the best ground attacking unit against broodlings.
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
April 22 2013 20:27 GMT
#33
On April 23 2013 05:09 Liquid`Ret wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 04:26 Ahelvin wrote:
God, those hellbats... Can TLO actually play Ling/Bane against this style, or are some kind of roaches mandatory?

Any opinion from a good zerg?


there is no unit that can trade cost efficiently with a 100 minerals 0 gas 2 supply unit that does that much damage in regular fights, 1 shots lings, owns banelings, does a great job tanking, owns mineral lines in seconds, and compliments every other terran army amazingly well.


Can't agree more :D
Though, great games and gratz to Heromarine.
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
Rif_king
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada66 Posts
April 22 2013 20:30 GMT
#34
This isn't trolling or criticism or anything, just a question from a non-zerg player. Aren't swarm hosts, with free, ranged units pretty good at trading something for nothing?
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
April 22 2013 20:40 GMT
#35
On April 23 2013 05:30 Rif_king wrote:
This isn't trolling or criticism or anything, just a question from a non-zerg player. Aren't swarm hosts, with free, ranged units pretty good at trading something for nothing?


In the longrun they are good.
Against T and Z you barely see them.(ZvZ:you need the gas for mutas ZvT:Mass Tanks counters SH pretty hard)
In ZvP you can see them sometimes, but are kinda risky because they arent "figured out" yet and bad in straight up fight.

This all doesnt belong in this thread though <3
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
April 22 2013 21:03 GMT
#36
Well done by HeroMarine. Good to see the kick-ass-kid taking some names (sad he couldn't play wcs )
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
BasetradeTV
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Canada1307 Posts
April 22 2013 21:04 GMT
#37
Vods for the series being uploaded and cut up but here's a playlist to the last 5 games vs TLO
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?feature=edit_ok&list=PLat5D601bZK4LU2BysEqCgWGmZ8GHyvQS
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PeterUstinox
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Germany47 Posts
April 22 2013 21:51 GMT
#38
HeroMarine, you are the one and only!
Are you gonna drop a nuke or not?
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
April 22 2013 22:20 GMT
#39
Wow, can anybody tell me how HeroMarine wom the last game vs TLO? TLO managed to kill close to three times the workers HeroMarine did, yet HeroMarine somehow seem to have outmacroed him in the end! Kind of reminded me of the game between Loner and some Korean zerg on Scrap Station in one of the first few seasons of GSL, where the zerg repeatedly killed Loner's eco yet he still managed to pump out more and more units to throw against the zerg...
BasetradeTV
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Canada1307 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 17:09:04
April 22 2013 23:12 GMT
#40
Ok here they are in full glory for anyone that missed the broadcast:
Link to the full playlist (all games are in order) Links to the start of each individual set within spoiler tags.

Game 1, Round 1
+ Show Spoiler +

[Mouz]HeRoMaRinE vs [aTn]Socke


Game 1, Round 2
+ Show Spoiler +

[Mouz]HeRoMaRinE vs [VPBenQ]Slivko


Game 1, Round 3
+ Show Spoiler +

[Mouz]HeRoMaRinE vs [Ai]Tarrantius


Game 1, Round 4
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[Mouz]HeRoMaRinE vs [Liquid]TLO
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