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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 11:14:15
April 18 2013 11:13 GMT
#1341
On April 18 2013 20:13 Nekovivie wrote:
If Nestea made the universe, but Flash is god, then what the fuck is even happening.

polytheism or false idols depending on who you ask
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
April 18 2013 11:14 GMT
#1342
SoulKey is very dangerous in his strategy and play. He could very well beat Flash 2-0 convincingly. He's not just mechanically superior to B4, but also very clever in how he playes the game. Flash usually builds his game on macro advantages (being greedy). He is calculating risks to take and he either enters the game with one or he can be abused horribly.

In Broodwar defence was a lot more easy for Terran (in terms of builds and being greedy) while you can easily lose a game in Starcraft 2. I am looking forward to see if Flash does 'answer' his opponent or does stick with being very greedy and less save!
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
April 18 2013 11:14 GMT
#1343
On April 18 2013 20:13 Nekovivie wrote:
If Nestea made the universe, but Flash is god, then what the fuck is even happening.

I think you've just found a crack in Artosis armor.
Stork[gm]
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
April 18 2013 11:14 GMT
#1344
On April 18 2013 20:13 Nekovivie wrote:
If Nestea made the universe, but Flash is god, then what the fuck is even happening.


Nestea is the father of Science =/= god
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 18 2013 11:14 GMT
#1345
WCS KR S1 2013 Code S Ro32
[image loading] (Z)Soulkey vs [image loading] (T)Flash
Game 1
Map: Star Station

0:00
Soulkey spawns in the top right
Flash spawns in the bottom right
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TL+ Member
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
April 18 2013 11:14 GMT
#1346
On April 18 2013 20:13 Gevna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 20:06 iky43210 wrote:
On April 18 2013 20:04 Cereb wrote:
Dat World of Tanks APM where they zoom in one the mouse doing one click really slowly :p

apm != skill. WoT is a very complex game esp moreso in team battles.

Low lvl play its boring to watch, but its just like how low lvl TvT is snoozefest.There are very innovative ways to play

apm means skill. Obviously there are a lot of differences between apm, but the player with the most effective apm (I'm not talking about spam) will win in most of games because he is faster, more accurate, and more reactive. There is a reason why a noob has 60 apm and korean pros have at least 250 apm.

I don't get this depreciation of apm, this is obvious you need to have an high apm to be really good.


Smart decisionmaking > super high APM
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
April 18 2013 11:15 GMT
#1347
On April 18 2013 20:14 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 20:13 Nekovivie wrote:
If Nestea made the universe, but Flash is god, then what the fuck is even happening.


Nestea is the father of Science =/= god


Well FlaSh is also the Terminator. :S
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
DustbinBieber
Profile Joined April 2013
France276 Posts
April 18 2013 11:15 GMT
#1348
holy shit did you see how quickly Flash started harvesting minerals with his SCVs?
so damn godlike, amazing to see how his BW skills have transitionned
I might faint
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
April 18 2013 11:15 GMT
#1349
On April 18 2013 20:14 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 20:13 Gevna wrote:
On April 18 2013 20:06 iky43210 wrote:
On April 18 2013 20:04 Cereb wrote:
Dat World of Tanks APM where they zoom in one the mouse doing one click really slowly :p

apm != skill. WoT is a very complex game esp moreso in team battles.

Low lvl play its boring to watch, but its just like how low lvl TvT is snoozefest.There are very innovative ways to play

apm means skill. Obviously there are a lot of differences between apm, but the player with the most effective apm (I'm not talking about spam) will win in most of games because he is faster, more accurate, and more reactive. There is a reason why a noob has 60 apm and korean pros have at least 250 apm.

I don't get this depreciation of apm, this is obvious you need to have an high apm to be really good.


Smart decisionmaking > super high APM

Why not have both!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19302 Posts
April 18 2013 11:15 GMT
#1350
Is the OP not being updated? (I'm late to the party )
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 18 2013 11:15 GMT
#1351
On April 18 2013 20:14 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 20:13 Gevna wrote:
On April 18 2013 20:06 iky43210 wrote:
On April 18 2013 20:04 Cereb wrote:
Dat World of Tanks APM where they zoom in one the mouse doing one click really slowly :p

apm != skill. WoT is a very complex game esp moreso in team battles.

Low lvl play its boring to watch, but its just like how low lvl TvT is snoozefest.There are very innovative ways to play

apm means skill. Obviously there are a lot of differences between apm, but the player with the most effective apm (I'm not talking about spam) will win in most of games because he is faster, more accurate, and more reactive. There is a reason why a noob has 60 apm and korean pros have at least 250 apm.

I don't get this depreciation of apm, this is obvious you need to have an high apm to be really good.


Smart decisionmaking > super high APM

yeah just ask marineking as he's running into a siege line huehuehue
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TL+ Member
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
April 18 2013 11:15 GMT
#1352
Do people actually watch OGN stream? Different obs and casters.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
April 18 2013 11:15 GMT
#1353
On April 18 2013 20:15 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 20:14 lichter wrote:
On April 18 2013 20:13 Nekovivie wrote:
If Nestea made the universe, but Flash is god, then what the fuck is even happening.


Nestea is the father of Science =/= god


Well FlaSh is also the Terminator. :S


Sang is Terminator

And Mecha Godzilla
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
April 18 2013 11:15 GMT
#1354
On April 18 2013 20:14 Type|NarutO wrote:
SoulKey is very dangerous in his strategy and play. He could very well beat Flash 2-0 convincingly. He's not just mechanically superior to B4, but also very clever in how he playes the game. Flash usually builds his game on macro advantages (being greedy). He is calculating risks to take and he either enters the game with one or he can be abused horribly.

In Broodwar defence was a lot more easy for Terran (in terms of builds and being greedy) while you can easily lose a game in Starcraft 2. I am looking forward to see if Flash does 'answer' his opponent or does stick with being very greedy and less save!


Spot on analysis! I would like to see a somewhat early gas build from Soulkey, just to at least threaten early aggression or timing attack.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
April 18 2013 11:16 GMT
#1355
On April 18 2013 20:15 DustbinBieber wrote:
holy shit did you see how quickly Flash started harvesting minerals with his SCVs?
so damn godlike, amazing to see how his BW skills have transitionned
I might faint

Why are you so bitter? He didn't float minerals, or gas, while pushing constantly and microing pretty damn well.

OMG I HAVE TO MAKE OUT THAT I'M NOT IMPRESSED BECAUSE I'M A STARCRAFT HIPSTER
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
April 18 2013 11:16 GMT
#1356
On April 18 2013 20:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 20:14 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On April 18 2013 20:13 Gevna wrote:
On April 18 2013 20:06 iky43210 wrote:
On April 18 2013 20:04 Cereb wrote:
Dat World of Tanks APM where they zoom in one the mouse doing one click really slowly :p

apm != skill. WoT is a very complex game esp moreso in team battles.

Low lvl play its boring to watch, but its just like how low lvl TvT is snoozefest.There are very innovative ways to play

apm means skill. Obviously there are a lot of differences between apm, but the player with the most effective apm (I'm not talking about spam) will win in most of games because he is faster, more accurate, and more reactive. There is a reason why a noob has 60 apm and korean pros have at least 250 apm.

I don't get this depreciation of apm, this is obvious you need to have an high apm to be really good.


Smart decisionmaking > super high APM

Why not have both!


That's the optimal player of course :D
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
April 18 2013 11:16 GMT
#1357
Soulkey's ID is pretty cool -Tasteless


Counting down the days until ridiculous name change to something beyond corny! :p
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
April 18 2013 11:16 GMT
#1358
Doomsday Tasteless.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 11:17:58
April 18 2013 11:16 GMT
#1359
On April 18 2013 20:14 Type|NarutO wrote:
SoulKey is very dangerous in his strategy and play. He could very well beat Flash 2-0 convincingly. He's not just mechanically superior to B4, but also very clever in how he playes the game. Flash usually builds his game on macro advantages (being greedy). He is calculating risks to take and he either enters the game with one or he can be abused horribly.

In Broodwar defence was a lot more easy for Terran (in terms of builds and being greedy) while you can easily lose a game in Starcraft 2. I am looking forward to see if Flash does 'answer' his opponent or does stick with being very greedy and less save!

I agreed to everything you wrote here, Flash was a maestro of greed and defense.

The difference now in SC2 is that sometimes attack for terran is like defence for terran in BW.

We will see how Flash manages to do so in up and coming years.
Stork[gm]
DustbinBieber
Profile Joined April 2013
France276 Posts
April 18 2013 11:16 GMT
#1360
On April 18 2013 20:16 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 20:15 DustbinBieber wrote:
holy shit did you see how quickly Flash started harvesting minerals with his SCVs?
so damn godlike, amazing to see how his BW skills have transitionned
I might faint

Why are you so bitter? He didn't float minerals, or gas, while pushing constantly and microing pretty damn well.

OMG I HAVE TO MAKE OUT THAT I'M NOT IMPRESSED BECAUSE I'M A STARCRAFT HIPSTER


but... I am impressed...
:-(
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