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MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
March 23 2013 21:48 GMT
#481
Heromarine had some weird army control, running down a huge choke point cost him a lot of supply repeatedly. GG WP from Tefel though.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
March 23 2013 21:48 GMT
#482
On March 24 2013 06:40 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
Deciding by H2H is not that unusual. I have seen it many times in tournaments. It is also used in for example the Champions League in football.

Yes but there are possible ties and only 4 teams per group. The most teams/players there are, the most the regularity should be rewarded and not a random match among five.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-23 21:48:43
March 23 2013 21:48 GMT
#483
heromarine should have just went for a 2 base timing after cc first... tefel was just too greedy on fast 4 base and with fast 3 base marine was too late to punish it...
TBO
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1350 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-23 21:56:48
March 23 2013 21:52 GMT
#484
On March 24 2013 06:48 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2013 06:40 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
Deciding by H2H is not that unusual. I have seen it many times in tournaments. It is also used in for example the Champions League in football.

Yes but there are possible ties and only 4 teams per group. The most teams/players there are, the most the regularity should be rewarded and not a random match among five.


well with mapscore its also that "random" map win of andypandy (no disrespect!) vs Babyknight which makes all the difference (else both BabyK and ForGG are +2) - do you really think 1 map loss against a player who went 0-5 is a better indicator of skill than winning vs the guy you are tied with in series?

we also have to consider that some matchups are more volatile than others so dropping 1 map is more likely for some races. There has been some analysis a year or so ago which showed that Terrans had a way lower chance to lose vs weaker players in all 3 matchups than P and Z had, with PvP being the most volatile matchup.

Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
March 23 2013 21:52 GMT
#485
A few updates from the website:
Crank 2:0 Kaldi
Ret 2:0 jamesykins
Ziktomini 2:1 NightEnD

This means, we have a possible 3-way-tie in group D, with Ziktomi, Krass and NightEnD involved.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
March 23 2013 21:53 GMT
#486
On March 24 2013 06:46 StarVe wrote:
Haha, boosted medivacs speeding around randomly.


He did that against Crank too. At first I though it was to burn energy to avoid feedbacks. ..heh :3
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
March 23 2013 21:53 GMT
#487
I am lost, could someone point me to the liquipedia page? Searching for "ESET" doesn't return anything for this tournament...
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 23 2013 21:54 GMT
#488
On March 24 2013 06:53 fezvez wrote:
I am lost, could someone point me to the liquipedia page? Searching for "ESET" doesn't return anything for this tournament...

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/ESET_UK_Masters_2013/Season_1
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
March 23 2013 21:54 GMT
#489
On March 24 2013 06:53 fezvez wrote:
I am lost, could someone point me to the liquipedia page? Searching for "ESET" doesn't return anything for this tournament...

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/ESET_UK_Masters_2013/Season_1
Gubbernecco
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany170 Posts
March 23 2013 21:54 GMT
#490
On March 24 2013 06:52 Xoronius wrote:
A few updates from the website:
Crank 2:0 Kaldi
Ret 2:0 jamesykins
Ziktomini 2:1 NightEnD

This means, we have a possible 3-way-tie in group D, with Ziktomi, Krass and NightEnD involved.


krass lost to randy
so ret 1st, ziktomini 2nd, nightend 3rd
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
March 23 2013 21:58 GMT
#491
Who is the caster alongside ToD? I'm really enjoying his commentary, jovial and smooth.
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-23 21:59:03
March 23 2013 21:58 GMT
#492
Look at them Liquid zergs... all topping their groups.

On March 24 2013 06:58 Slardar wrote:
Who is the caster alongside ToD? I'm really enjoying his commentary, jovial and smooth.

Jarosar
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
WhurreOdu
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1739 Posts
March 23 2013 21:59 GMT
#493
Dumb question as I was not really active in SCII the last few weeks, why do the overlords look differently?
Fut am Bam
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
March 23 2013 22:00 GMT
#494
On March 24 2013 06:59 WhurreOdu wrote:
Dumb question as I was not really active in SCII the last few weeks, why do the overlords look differently?

New skins obtainable in HotS.
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
March 23 2013 22:01 GMT
#495
Wow, it is rare that H2H score is more important than map score in a tournament...don't like it
🥇 Prediction Contest - Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
March 23 2013 22:01 GMT
#496
On March 24 2013 06:52 TBO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2013 06:48 Boucot wrote:
On March 24 2013 06:40 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
Deciding by H2H is not that unusual. I have seen it many times in tournaments. It is also used in for example the Champions League in football.

Yes but there are possible ties and only 4 teams per group. The most teams/players there are, the most the regularity should be rewarded and not a random match among five.


well with mapscore its also that "random" map win of andypandy (no disrespect!) vs Babyknight which makes all the difference (else both BabyK and ForGG are +2) - do you really think 1 map loss against a player who went 0-5 is a better indicator of skill than winning vs the guy you are tied with in series?

we also have to consider that some matchups are more volatile than others so dropping 1 map is more likely for some races. There has been some analysis a year or so ago which showed that Terrans had a way lower chance to lose vs weaker players in all 3 matchups than P and Z had, with PvP being the most volatile matchup.


The word "random" was not the correct one. What I wanted to say is that every single match should count the same way, except if there is an exact tie. For me, it's the principle of a pool which is different from a bracket.

But, well, it's over now. But all the major tournaments with pools use mapscore over H2H. It's weird to see that now.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
WhurreOdu
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1739 Posts
March 23 2013 22:01 GMT
#497
On March 24 2013 07:00 Proseat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2013 06:59 WhurreOdu wrote:
Dumb question as I was not really active in SCII the last few weeks, why do the overlords look differently?

New skins obtainable in HotS.


Thanks!
Fut am Bam
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
March 23 2013 22:04 GMT
#498
10-1 in maps for Ret, good showing once again
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3359 Posts
March 23 2013 22:05 GMT
#499
Roaches into infestors into swarm hosts?
I have a feeling that those compositions wouldn't work against a good Korean terran.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-23 22:07:29
March 23 2013 22:06 GMT
#500
Krass doesn't make it because he lost the deciding map to a 10/10 2-gate. T_T
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