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The usual: Don't flame casters or players. Don't discuss balance in this or any LR thread. Don't call your fellow posters idiots. Be excited, happy and entertained.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 20:57:30
March 16 2013 20:57 GMT
#4241
On March 17 2013 05:55 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 05:55 LeanMeanMacroMachine wrote:
On March 17 2013 05:52 vinsang1000 wrote:
On March 17 2013 05:50 LeanMeanMacroMachine wrote:
Always nice to see Stephano get dismantled by a competent player. He should stick to playing tournaments with non-koreans.


I guess you don't know he is in code S,

He got seeded. Then owned and somehow managed to get through the up and downs. We'll see how he does next time he plays. Probably obliterated again. Like last time. .

Hack confirmed incompetent trash tier scrub.

Some people are so ignorant. Stephano is good. He might not be your cup of tea, and he isn't mine either, but he has results.

And Hack is great.
The Bomber boy
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
March 16 2013 20:57 GMT
#4242
This bass MLG... my ears are going t start bleed soon lol. -_-'
The curse is real
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
March 16 2013 20:57 GMT
#4243
On March 17 2013 05:54 BackSideAttack wrote:
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On March 17 2013 05:52 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On March 17 2013 05:50 Porishan wrote:
On March 17 2013 05:47 Designakrobat wrote:
how the hell can someone deal with those insane drops? i have no clue....

Same amount of apm multitask etc. ?


Stephano has a higher APM than the majority of koreans even. It's not just that. Its the composition, map, positioning, so many factors. But getting out APM'd is not the reason in this case or in most cases.


The problem is his apm is not very efficient. If you watch him fp, he has A LOT of wasted actions.

whats the point of high apm if your eyes cant catch up with everything on the screen/minimap? Last just sent one medivac in to distract and rolled in in another direction. Work every single time
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
March 16 2013 20:57 GMT
#4244
On March 17 2013 05:53 Bagi wrote:
Stephano wasn't doing that hot towards the end of WOL either. Maybe him being all miserable in Korea has something to do with it.

If Life and Leenock also get torn apart by medivacs, then we can discuss balance. Stephano however is not a code S caliber player right now.

This. I'm waiting a bit more for Korean vs Korean ZvT before jumping to any conclusions (even though I think no downside to boosters is silly). Still, the first two major tournaments for HOTS featured insanely good P/T players vs tons of foreigner Zergs.
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 20:57:55
March 16 2013 20:57 GMT
#4245
On March 17 2013 05:55 DarkMatter_ wrote:
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On March 17 2013 05:51 Kznn wrote:
sc2 has more viewers than the lol stream hahaha

Because the LoL stream is airing a rerun of yesterday's game....

You just crushed that poor man's happiness.
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
March 16 2013 20:57 GMT
#4246
bomber just having too many medivacs at one time for goswer to defend at one time.

as a terran i honestly wouldn't be upset if afterburners were tech lab.
)))____◎◎◎◎█████
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 20:57:43
March 16 2013 20:57 GMT
#4247
On March 17 2013 05:52 Zenbrez wrote:
SC2 130k viewers
LoL 100k viewers

SC2 dying, guys. Time to close shop.


I believe the main schedule for League hasn't started yet. It's just rebroadcasts, also, HotS just came out. It's natural to have hots hype.

Regardless, games are fantastic. I'm really enjoying watching hots, and I wish I could just duo stream league and hots all day. Damn you MLG.
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
Durp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada3117 Posts
March 16 2013 20:57 GMT
#4248
LOL 12 CCs?
SOOOOOooooOOOOooooOOOOoo Many BANELINGS!!
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18839 Posts
March 16 2013 20:57 GMT
#4249
On March 17 2013 05:56 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
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On March 17 2013 05:54 setzer wrote:
I've been out of SC for a little while. Is Stephano worse at HotS than WoL or is this level of play uncharacteristic?


HoTs has only just come out, but all zergs are struggling. Plus KESPA Terrans multitasking is just kicking ass in HotS.

Korean Terran Multitask+Hypervacs=......lol?
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11075 Posts
March 16 2013 20:57 GMT
#4250
argh Gosu just cant put pressure back on Bomber.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12023 Posts
March 16 2013 20:57 GMT
#4251
Can burrow allow you to dodge seeker missiles? I don't think i've ever seen anyone try it.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
Csong
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada396 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 20:58:53
March 16 2013 20:57 GMT
#4252
looks like EG curse finally kicking in for stephano
jk jk
BackSideAttack
Profile Joined December 2010
1103 Posts
March 16 2013 20:57 GMT
#4253
On March 17 2013 05:55 Lysanias wrote:
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On March 17 2013 05:53 LeanMeanMacroMachine wrote:
On March 17 2013 05:51 PoP wrote:
On March 17 2013 05:50 LeanMeanMacroMachine wrote:
Always nice to see Stephano get dismantled by a competent player. He should stick to playing tournaments with non-koreans.


lol

Unhappy about something?

I just think he's overrated and gets more attention than he deserves. He got famous because he was the first zerg to actually micro his units. Hurr durr


Don't forget that he made over 200k on pricemoney's, but yea totaly overated !


People's dominance fades. You can't keep relying on people's old results to predict their new ones.
vinsang1000
Profile Joined January 2012
Belgium365 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 20:58:42
March 16 2013 20:57 GMT
#4254
On March 17 2013 05:54 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Let's talk about balance everytime stephano is losing


The problem not balance, it's that Medivac boost is an extension of current managed features frm terran, whereas Zerg must learn how to use to use their new units
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 20:59:02
March 16 2013 20:57 GMT
#4255
On March 17 2013 05:54 setzer wrote:
I've been out of SC for a little while. Is Stephano worse at HotS than WoL or is this level of play uncharacteristic?


took him a while to get really good at WoL and he had to train alot WoL as well. Afterwards he was traveling alot. So not so much HotS time for him. Not expecting him to win alot the next month.
And well he is used to spot and defend everything, but those medivacs are hard to predict where they strike even if you see them they just boost up a cliff and down again.
Archybaldie
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom818 Posts
March 16 2013 20:57 GMT
#4256
On March 17 2013 05:57 Arceus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 05:54 BackSideAttack wrote:
On March 17 2013 05:52 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On March 17 2013 05:50 Porishan wrote:
On March 17 2013 05:47 Designakrobat wrote:
how the hell can someone deal with those insane drops? i have no clue....

Same amount of apm multitask etc. ?


Stephano has a higher APM than the majority of koreans even. It's not just that. Its the composition, map, positioning, so many factors. But getting out APM'd is not the reason in this case or in most cases.


The problem is his apm is not very efficient. If you watch him fp, he has A LOT of wasted actions.

whats the point of high apm if your eyes cant catch up with everything on the screen/minimap? Last just sent one medivac in to distract and rolled in in another direction. Work every single time


Burn off excess adrenalyn so you make less mistakes and dont get the (adrenal) shakes.
I'm in the bubblewrap league ... i just keep getting popped
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
March 16 2013 20:58 GMT
#4257
On March 17 2013 05:55 sibs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 05:54 Makro wrote:
last had more units than stephano, in that way it's easy to outclassing your opponent, the medivac boost isn't reponsible of stephano's defeat


It sort of is, why is Terran able to outexpand Z & P so frequently in HotS? Mines + Turbovac.


I wouldnt worry about it too much. Zergs will figure it out. I mean eventually the turbo boost will get some sort of nerf, but I mean infestors were way to strong for months, but terrans learned to deal with it. Plus its only the first week.
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
March 16 2013 20:58 GMT
#4258
On March 17 2013 05:53 Derez wrote:
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On March 17 2013 05:51 ACrow wrote:
Last played this really well, his multitasking was fantastic indeed.
But, I must say, Stephano's multitasking was also top notch, and some of these drops were defended perfectly, but yet he wasn't able to properly punish the drop because it got away so freaking fast. Something doesn't really feel right.

On several occasions you have what seems like stephano a-moving his entire army when he should know there's a big drop waiting. It's how he lost his 3rd the first time.

I didn't say he defended every drop well (and especially the third was left completely open, he needed2 to 3 spines there to stall until he could run there), but some of the drops were defended perfectly, and in those situations where Last flew in his medivacs over the army of Stephano, he shouldn't just be able to boost out and lose nothing - it's reaping the benefit Stephano had by having the better multitasking in that situation, and that just isn't right.
Overall though, I think Last played better and deserved to win, but maybe not as one sided as it was.
Get off my lawn, young punks
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
March 16 2013 20:58 GMT
#4259
Bomber not messing around this time so GG =)
andrewnguyener
Profile Joined March 2011
United States548 Posts
March 16 2013 20:58 GMT
#4260
BOMBERRRR
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