I agree, Taeja-Symbol finals would be my ideal one as well. Unfortunately I'm not going to stay up to watch this live mainly because it's a ZvZ, but if the recommended games afterwards are good I'll definitely check it out. Can't wait til tomorrows Ro4 games though!
Pictures of the players link to twitter if you want to tweet something. Curious hasn't made one yet as far as I know so I linked to the StarTale twitter. There is a message on there saying they would talk to him about getting one so I'll change it if Curious ends up making a twitter profile.
I'm kind of torn because I want Curious to advance but I also want AZUBU to make a real good showing by putting someone in their first finals. Since it's ZvZ I'm fine with this going either way as long as the games are good.
I love Symbol, but statistically and result-wise, his ZvZ has been suffering and against a strong ZvZ'er like Curious who has Life to practice with, this won't go well for him I think.
I don't know how I feel about the change to best of 7. I kinda liked the 5-5-7 because it made the finals feel more important. 5-7-7 is just weird. Bo7s are best left to special occasions.
The score is the (number of appearances for the word) MINUS (the total number of appearances from the other 31 fan clubs) It's not perfect, just something quick I whipped up.
On February 28 2013 05:48 THELEHGOTERRAN wrote: they are splitting ro4 into 2 days now?
They're Bo7 now, so it makes each semifinal a much bigger now. I'm fine with it. It might not seem so amazing if it's a bunch of ZvZ's, but if this was S4 and they announced Rain/Mvp and Life/Taeja were going to be Bo7, people would have loved it.
I don't like that video. Makes me worried for taeja.
Edit: If the finals had become Bo9, then MVP would have fallen out of the sky into one players booth, taken their place, and proceeded to win the final WoL with 5 amazingly planned builds.
Rain reverse 4-0 a 3-0 by Last in the OSL. (Last got reverse swept against MC in the third place matches too, heh.)
and Last reverse swept flash before that lol To answer your question, I really think that BO7 allows for more mindgames and strategy than BO5, and that it should be left for the finals. I wonder how a BO17 GSL finals would be if it was taken seriously...
Rain reverse 4-0 a 3-0 by Last in the OSL. (Last got reverse swept against MC in the third place matches too, heh.)
and Last reverse swept flash before that lol To answer your question, I really think that BO7 allows for more mindgames and strategy than BO5, and that it should be left for the finals. I wonder how a BO17 GSL finals would be if it was taken seriously...
oh god imagine a 9-0 lol, would need a mercy rule, auto win if you have a 4 game lead
On February 28 2013 10:39 Fionn wrote: I have Symbol winning 4-3.
Which means Curious wins.
Whoa, one second here, folks. Curious is such an obvious pick, I can't believe Fionn didn't take him. This raises the question, is Fionn attempting to subvert the Fionn curse by picking Symbol, thereby actually allowing Curious to win? Is he playing with the fates?
On February 28 2013 10:39 Fionn wrote: I have Symbol winning 4-3.
Which means Curious wins.
Whoa, one second here, folks. Curious is such an obvious pick, I can't believe Fionn didn't take him. This raises the question, is Fionn attempting to subvert the Fionn curse by picking Symbol, thereby actually allowing Curious to win? Is he playing with the fates?
I tried that when I had my own curse and it only worked once (that time Inca was in the up/downs and beat... leenock I think?)
On February 28 2013 12:23 Hall0wed wrote: Hope Curious pulls this one out. Either him or Taeja winning this GSL would be good.
I'd be fine with anyone except RorO winning this GSL.
Why?
Because the KeSPA fanboys (and the counter KeSPA haters) would flood the forum really hard for the following week, completely ruining it for everyone.
ZvZ final (max balance whine) + ESF vs. KeSPA final (max conflict) + KeSPA winning their first GSL within a year of switch (max fanboying) = the worst LR thread in SC history.
If fucking Roro wins the first KeSPA GSL, then it still disproves the Elephant in the Room article. Not Flash. Not Jaedong. Not a guy like Soulkey, Zero, or Stats who were peaking in skill at the end of Brood War.
Motherfucking Roro. That would be the biggest nail in the elephant coffin.
On February 28 2013 12:51 Fionn wrote: If Taeja loses to Roro, Chae needs to do some sort of HotS FFA with the Wings of Liberty legends to get people to show up to the final.
Unfortunately, I think he better start making calls. RorO's 19-7 in ZvT, 2-0 over Mvp, Ryung, and Flash, 1-1 against Bogus, and 1-2 against MKP. Scary stuff for our Terran hope.
EDIT: TaeJa is only 9-5 against Zerg in the past four months in televised matches (still pretty good, but a much smaller sample size). Hopefully the wrists hold up.
On February 28 2013 12:55 Fionn wrote: If fucking Roro wins the first KeSPA GSL, then it still disproves the Elephant in the Room article. Not Flash. Not Jaedong. Not a guy like Soulkey, Zero, or Stats who were peaking in skill at the end of Brood War.
Motherfucking Roro. That would be the biggest nail in the elephant coffin.
On February 28 2013 12:55 Fionn wrote: If fucking Roro wins the first KeSPA GSL, then it still disproves the Elephant in the Room article. Not Flash. Not Jaedong. Not a guy like Soulkey, Zero, or Stats who were peaking in skill at the end of Brood War.
Motherfucking Roro. That would be the biggest nail in the elephant coffin.
You didn't get the article.
Do I need to reread it? Wasn't the basic idea of the article is that the best players in Brood War, like Jaedong, Flash, etc. would move to SC2 and instantly dominate? Roro was a good player, but he was no godly Brood War star. He has an overall record under. .500 all-time in Brood War.
On February 28 2013 12:55 Fionn wrote: If fucking Roro wins the first KeSPA GSL, then it still disproves the Elephant in the Room article. Not Flash. Not Jaedong. Not a guy like Soulkey, Zero, or Stats who were peaking in skill at the end of Brood War.
Motherfucking Roro. That would be the biggest nail in the elephant coffin.
You didn't get the article.
Do I need to reread it? Wasn't the basic idea of the article is that the best players in Brood War, like Jaedong, Flash, etc. would move to SC2 and instantly dominate? Roro was a good player, but he was no godly Brood War star. He has an overall record under. .500 all-time in Brood War.
On February 28 2013 12:55 Fionn wrote: If fucking Roro wins the first KeSPA GSL, then it still disproves the Elephant in the Room article. Not Flash. Not Jaedong. Not a guy like Soulkey, Zero, or Stats who were peaking in skill at the end of Brood War.
Motherfucking Roro. That would be the biggest nail in the elephant coffin.
You didn't get the article.
Do I need to reread it? Wasn't the basic idea of the article is that the best players in Brood War, like Jaedong, Flash, etc. would move to SC2 and instantly dominate? Roro was a good player, but he was no godly Brood War star. He has an overall record under. .500 all-time in Brood War.
Yeah, Fionn, I think you need to. You know, a TL writer who's been on the site for several years needs to go look over an article that you've probably read several times which was posted by another TL writer because some guy who certainly seems sketchy* said so in an effortless one liner in which you swiftly and accurately swept aside. Sounds right.
If the finals HAS to be ZvZ and It's Curious vs Roro I would actually cheer for Roro, even though the LR thread would be the worst since Mvp vs Squirtle.
On February 28 2013 12:23 Hall0wed wrote: Hope Curious pulls this one out. Either him or Taeja winning this GSL would be good.
I'd be fine with anyone except RorO winning this GSL.
Why?
Because the KeSPA fanboys (and the KeSPA haters) would flood the forum really hard for the following week, completely ruining it for everyone.
ZvZ final + ESF vs. KeSPA final + KeSPA winning their first GSL within a year of switch = the worst LR thread in SC history.
Yeah, like you eSF fanboys are better. You bullied KeSPA fanboys all year long by being majority, and can't bear with one win for minority KeSPA fans.
Lol bullied? ESF fans aren't the ones who think their players are somehow inherently superior and endorse one of the most arrogant and disrespectful articles I've ever seen (note that in this post, I'm talking about the extreme ends of the spectrum here, obviously there are plenty of Kespa fans who are cool, reasonable people who also thought the article was bullshit). I hope you realize that the CORE dynamic of this rivalry (inspired by the Elephant article) is that ESF fans want to prove that their players are at least just as good inherently as the Kespa players, and Kespa fans want to prove that their players are somehow superior to ESF players and will completely dominate at some point in the future (just as the article tried to predict). ESF fanboyism, in short, is nothing but a COUNTER to Kespa fanboyism. Annoying Kespa fanboyism is the cause, annoying ESF fanboyism is the effect. Both parties are certainly at fault, but it's obvious that the initial offender is more at fault.
You're trying to somehow paint yourself as the victim by talking about majority/minority, but you conveniently ignore the specific mentalities of the two groups. ESF fanboys are certainly not perfect in the slightest bit and have plenty of annoying aspects to them, but on the extreme side of Kespa fanboyism, I've seen idiots telling ESF fans that they're literally not welcome on TL because it was originally a BW site, I've seen a guy claim that anyone who is a fan of e-sports (as in, not even SC2, but e-sports in general) is somehow obligated to know BW history because it's "the history of e-sports", and in the article itself, it said stupid bullshit like how Flash and Jaedong would excel at ANY game (ridiculously arrogant) due to their BW prowess.
You talk about bullying, but don't forget that the article, clearly written by a Kespa fanboy, started this whole uncomfortable mess. Without that article, the rivalry would likely be a lot more friendly. ESF fans now have a stake in seeing Kespa players lose that is directly inspired by wanting to prove such a stupid article as incontrovertibly wrong as possible.
I realize this may come off as overly harsh, but it just boggles my mind how, after everything that's happened, you see ESF fans as somehow bullying Kespa fans.
On February 28 2013 13:46 Dodgin wrote: I would be ok with Roro winning, Roro is cool.
If the finals HAS to be ZvZ and It's Curious vs Roro I would actually cheer for Roro, even though the LR thread would be the worst since Mvp vs Squirtle.
On February 28 2013 13:46 Dodgin wrote: I would be ok with Roro winning, Roro is cool.
If the finals HAS to be ZvZ and It's Curious vs Roro I would actually cheer for Roro, even though the LR thread would be the worst since Mvp vs Squirtle.
On February 28 2013 13:46 Dodgin wrote: I would be ok with Roro winning, Roro is cool.
If the finals HAS to be ZvZ and It's Curious vs Roro I would actually cheer for Roro, even though the LR thread would be the worst since Mvp vs Squirtle.
That LR thread was awesome ^_^
Mvp vs Squirtle Game 7 in the LR was one of the most hilarious ever, especially with the whole reversal of tones/fortunes.
On February 28 2013 13:46 Dodgin wrote: I would be ok with Roro winning, Roro is cool.
If the finals HAS to be ZvZ and It's Curious vs Roro I would actually cheer for Roro, even though the LR thread would be the worst since Mvp vs Squirtle.
On February 28 2013 12:23 Hall0wed wrote: Hope Curious pulls this one out. Either him or Taeja winning this GSL would be good.
I'd be fine with anyone except RorO winning this GSL.
Why?
Because the KeSPA fanboys (and the KeSPA haters) would flood the forum really hard for the following week, completely ruining it for everyone.
ZvZ final + ESF vs. KeSPA final + KeSPA winning their first GSL within a year of switch = the worst LR thread in SC history.
Yeah, like you eSF fanboys are better. You bullied KeSPA fanboys all year long by being majority, and can't bear with one win for minority KeSPA fans.
What the hell is this? Rwanda in March 1994?
Better March than April D: What a coincidence. We are reading books about Rwanda in one of my classes right now. Just finished reading "Running the Rift" about 30 min ago.
On February 28 2013 13:46 Dodgin wrote: I would be ok with Roro winning, Roro is cool.
If the finals HAS to be ZvZ and It's Curious vs Roro I would actually cheer for Roro, even though the LR thread would be the worst since Mvp vs Squirtle.
That LR thread was awesome ^_^
We gained like 40 pages within 5 mins during game 7, was crazy.
On February 28 2013 13:46 Dodgin wrote: I would be ok with Roro winning, Roro is cool.
If the finals HAS to be ZvZ and It's Curious vs Roro I would actually cheer for Roro, even though the LR thread would be the worst since Mvp vs Squirtle.
That LR thread was awesome ^_^
We gained like 40 pages within 5 mins during game 7, was crazy.
On February 28 2013 12:23 Hall0wed wrote: Hope Curious pulls this one out. Either him or Taeja winning this GSL would be good.
I'd be fine with anyone except RorO winning this GSL.
Why?
Because the KeSPA fanboys (and the KeSPA haters) would flood the forum really hard for the following week, completely ruining it for everyone.
ZvZ final + ESF vs. KeSPA final + KeSPA winning their first GSL within a year of switch = the worst LR thread in SC history.
Yeah, like you eSF fanboys are better. You bullied KeSPA fanboys all year long by being majority, and can't bear with one win for minority KeSPA fans.
What the hell is this? Rwanda in March 1994?
Better March than April D: What a coincidence. We are reading books about Rwanda in one of my classes right now. Just finished reading "Running the Rift" about 30 min ago.
Chilling stories.
I remember doing a project about the Khmer Rouge regime in like 8th grade or something. Was never the same person after that.
On February 28 2013 12:55 Fionn wrote: If fucking Roro wins the first KeSPA GSL, then it still disproves the Elephant in the Room article. Not Flash. Not Jaedong. Not a guy like Soulkey, Zero, or Stats who were peaking in skill at the end of Brood War.
Motherfucking Roro. That would be the biggest nail in the elephant coffin.
On February 28 2013 12:23 Hall0wed wrote: Hope Curious pulls this one out. Either him or Taeja winning this GSL would be good.
I'd be fine with anyone except RorO winning this GSL.
Why?
Because the KeSPA fanboys (and the KeSPA haters) would flood the forum really hard for the following week, completely ruining it for everyone.
ZvZ final + ESF vs. KeSPA final + KeSPA winning their first GSL within a year of switch = the worst LR thread in SC history.
Yeah, like you eSF fanboys are better. You bullied KeSPA fanboys all year long by being majority, and can't bear with one win for minority KeSPA fans.
but don't forget that the article, clearly written by a Kespa fanboy, started this whole uncomfortable mess. Without that article, the rivalry would likely be a lot more friendly. ESF fans now have a stake in seeing Kespa players lose that is directly inspired by wanting to prove such a stupid article as incontrovertibly wrong as possible.
the hype for this is almost nonexistent for a semi-final. ZvZ is mostly to blame, of course, but I think HotS is too. And neither of these players are currently sexy for whatever reason. No one really mentioning how Curious has only lost one game this entire season.
On February 28 2013 18:15 negativedge wrote: the hype for this is almost nonexistent for a semi-final. ZvZ is mostly to blame, of course, but I think HotS is too. And neither of these players are currently sexy for whatever reason. No one really mentioning how Curious has only lost one game this entire season.
He only got second in his ro32 group so he has lost at least 2 games.
On February 28 2013 18:15 negativedge wrote: the hype for this is almost nonexistent for a semi-final. ZvZ is mostly to blame, of course, but I think HotS is too. And neither of these players are currently sexy for whatever reason. No one really mentioning how Curious has only lost one game this entire season.
He only got second in his ro32 group so he has lost at least 2 games.
Among the four remaining players, Curious played the best this season, has won his last 10 games, is a beast in ZvZ, and is up against an opponent with a clear weakness in the matchup. He deserves to advance to the final and he will.
On February 28 2013 18:14 Savant.GL wrote: I know sweat pants are comfortable..but come on this is the semi finals.
If there was any time to make sure you were as comfortable as possible playing starcraft, the semi-finals of GSL would be it.
Oh no I completely agree you want to be as comfortable as possible.
But it is also an event with high exposure and a good opportunity to market yourself and your team. Again it is just my personal opinion but it makes me cringe.
GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro4 Symbol vs Curious Game 1 Map: Bel'Shir Vestige
0:00 Symbol spawns in the bottom right Curious spawns in the top left
2:00 Pool first for Curious Hatch first for Symbol gas for Symbol Hatch for Curious pool for Symbol
3:00 gas for Curious
4:00 ling speed for Symbol 2 lings of Curious scout the main of Symbol ling speed for Curious baneling nest for Symbol
5:00 baneling nest for Curious spine in the natural for Curious spine in the natural for Symbol
6:00 Lair for Symbol 2nd gas for Symbol 2 more gas for Curious Lair for Curious evo chamber for Symbol ling of Symbol gets into the main of Curious and scouts his lair timing 2 more gas for Symbol 2nd evo for Symbol
7:00 4th gas for Curious +1 range attack started for Symbol evo chamber for Curious +1 carapace for Symbol Roach warren for Symbol Spire for Curious
8:00 Curious loses all of his lings to 2 banes outside of Symbol's natural 3rd base for Curious Roach speed started for Symbol Hydralisk den for Symbol lings scout the 3rd of Curious Roach warren for Curious
9:00 drone trying to make Symbol's 3rd is killed Hydra production started for Symbol 3rd base for Symbol mutas started for Symbol ling runby at the 3rd of Symbol Symbol cancels his 3rd
10:00 ling runby into the main of Symbol hydras get surrounded by lings 3 hydras are killed spores started for Symbol +1 range attack started for Curious Symbol pushing out on the map mutas scout the army moving out lings and mutas engage the hydras of Symbol and kill them
GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro4 Symbol vs Curious Game 1 Map: Bel'Shir Vestige
0:00 Symbol spawns in the bottom right Curious spawns in the top left
2:00 Pool first for Curious Hatch first for Symbol gas for Symbol Hatch for Curious pool for Symbol
3:00 gas for Curious
4:00 ling speed for Symbol 2 lings of Curious scout the main of Symbol ling speed for Curious baneling nest for Symbol
5:00 baneling nest for Curious spine in the natural for Curious spine in the natural for Symbol
6:00 Lair for Symbol 2nd gas for Symbol 2 more gas for Curious Lair for Curious evo chamber for Symbol ling of Symbol gets into the main of Curious and scouts his lair timing 2 more gas for Symbol 2nd evo for Symbol
7:00 4th gas for Curious +1 range attack started for Symbol evo chamber for Curious +1 carapace for Symbol Roach warren for Symbol Spire for Curious
8:00 Curious loses all of his lings to 2 banes outside of Symbol's natural 3rd base for Curious Roach speed started for Symbol Hydralisk den for Symbol lings scout the 3rd of Curious Roach warren for Curious
9:00 drone trying to make Symbol's 3rd is killed Hydra production started for Symbol 3rd base for Symbol mutas started for Symbol ling runby at the 3rd of Symbol Symbol cancels his 3rd
10:00 ling runby into the main of Symbol hydras get surrounded by lings 3 hydras are killed spores started for Symbol +1 range attack started for Curious Symbol pushing out on the map mutas scout the army moving out lings and mutas engage the hydras of Symbol and kill them
11:00 3rd base restarted for Symbol Roach attack at the 3rd of Curious Symbol kills the 3rd of Curious 1-1 was canceled for Symbol and is restarted now (?) 3rd base restarted for Curious
12:00 hydars kill 2 mutas burrow research started for Curious mutas at the 3rd of Symbol Roach runby in the natural and main of Curious roach runby at the 3rd of Curious Curious has roaches waiting at his 3rd and in his main
13:00 Roach hydra attack at the 3rd of Curious Symbol backs off Roaches and mutas of Curious give chase Symbol turns around to fight hydra range started for Symbol Curious kills the army of Symbol Curious is 30 supply ahead macro hatch for Curious +2 range attack started for Curious
14:00 infestation pit for Curious 2 more gas for Curious Curious sending his roaches across the map +2 range attack started for Symbol Hydras are exposed at Symbol's 3rd and kills right away roach reinforcements sandwich the army of Curious and push it back
15:00 +2 carapace started for Symbol pathogen glands started for Curious Curious sending his roaches across the map again infestor production started for Curious roach runby at the 3rd of Curious is intercepted. queen is saved by burrow
GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro4 Symbol vs Curious Game 1 Map: Bel'Shir Vestige
0:00 Symbol spawns in the bottom right Curious spawns in the top left
2:00 Pool first for Curious Hatch first for Symbol gas for Symbol Hatch for Curious pool for Symbol
3:00 gas for Curious
4:00 ling speed for Symbol 2 lings of Curious scout the main of Symbol ling speed for Curious baneling nest for Symbol
5:00 baneling nest for Curious spine in the natural for Curious spine in the natural for Symbol
6:00 Lair for Symbol 2nd gas for Symbol 2 more gas for Curious Lair for Curious evo chamber for Symbol ling of Symbol gets into the main of Curious and scouts his lair timing 2 more gas for Symbol 2nd evo for Symbol
7:00 4th gas for Curious +1 range attack started for Symbol evo chamber for Curious +1 carapace for Symbol Roach warren for Symbol Spire for Curious
8:00 Curious loses all of his lings to 2 banes outside of Symbol's natural 3rd base for Curious Roach speed started for Symbol Hydralisk den for Symbol lings scout the 3rd of Curious Roach warren for Curious
9:00 drone trying to make Symbol's 3rd is killed Hydra production started for Symbol 3rd base for Symbol mutas started for Symbol ling runby at the 3rd of Symbol Symbol cancels his 3rd
10:00 ling runby into the main of Symbol hydras get surrounded by lings 3 hydras are killed spores started for Symbol +1 range attack started for Curious Symbol pushing out on the map mutas scout the army moving out lings and mutas engage the hydras of Symbol and kill them
11:00 3rd base restarted for Symbol Roach attack at the 3rd of Curious Symbol kills the 3rd of Curious 1-1 was canceled for Symbol and is restarted now (?) 3rd base restarted for Curious
12:00 hydars kill 2 mutas burrow research started for Curious mutas at the 3rd of Symbol Roach runby in the natural and main of Curious roach runby at the 3rd of Curious Curious has roaches waiting at his 3rd and in his main
13:00 Roach hydra attack at the 3rd of Curious Symbol backs off Roaches and mutas of Curious give chase Symbol turns around to fight hydra range started for Symbol Curious kills the army of Symbol Curious is 30 supply ahead macro hatch for Curious +2 range attack started for Curious
14:00 infestation pit for Curious 2 more gas for Curious Curious sending his roaches across the map +2 range attack started for Symbol Hydras are exposed at Symbol's 3rd and kills right away roach reinforcements sandwich the army of Curious and push it back
15:00 +2 carapace started for Symbol pathogen glands started for Curious Curious sending his roaches across the map again infestor production started for Curious roach runby at the 3rd of Curious is intercepted. queen is saved by burrow
16:00 4th base for Curious more infestors coming out for Curious
17:00 Symbol constantly contaminating Curious's +2 range attack evo Hydralisk den started for Curious Symbol has 2-2 vs +2 attack for Curious
18:00 Symbol moving across the map now roach runby at the 4th of Curious roach runby into the main of Curious armies engage in the middle of the map all the hydras get fungaled in Symbol's army Symbol pushes back the army of Curious
19:00 Reinforcements come in for Curious from the side Roaches still killing drones in Curious's natural Symbol is 20 supply ahead Curious holds off the main army of Symbol 33 drones have been killed by Symbol
20:00 Roach battle in the middle of the map Superior upgraded roaches of Symbol are winning the fight Roaches attack the 4th of Curious and kill it as Curious backs off 4th base finished for Symbol Curious loses his infestors
GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro4 Symbol vs Curious Game 1 Map: Bel'Shir Vestige
0:00 Symbol spawns in the bottom right Curious spawns in the top left
2:00 Pool first for Curious Hatch first for Symbol gas for Symbol Hatch for Curious pool for Symbol
3:00 gas for Curious
4:00 ling speed for Symbol 2 lings of Curious scout the main of Symbol ling speed for Curious baneling nest for Symbol
5:00 baneling nest for Curious spine in the natural for Curious spine in the natural for Symbol
6:00 Lair for Symbol 2nd gas for Symbol 2 more gas for Curious Lair for Curious evo chamber for Symbol ling of Symbol gets into the main of Curious and scouts his lair timing 2 more gas for Symbol 2nd evo for Symbol
7:00 4th gas for Curious +1 range attack started for Symbol evo chamber for Curious +1 carapace for Symbol Roach warren for Symbol Spire for Curious
8:00 Curious loses all of his lings to 2 banes outside of Symbol's natural 3rd base for Curious Roach speed started for Symbol Hydralisk den for Symbol lings scout the 3rd of Curious Roach warren for Curious
9:00 drone trying to make Symbol's 3rd is killed Hydra production started for Symbol 3rd base for Symbol mutas started for Symbol ling runby at the 3rd of Symbol Symbol cancels his 3rd
10:00 ling runby into the main of Symbol hydras get surrounded by lings 3 hydras are killed spores started for Symbol +1 range attack started for Curious Symbol pushing out on the map mutas scout the army moving out lings and mutas engage the hydras of Symbol and kill them
11:00 3rd base restarted for Symbol Roach attack at the 3rd of Curious Symbol kills the 3rd of Curious 1-1 was canceled for Symbol and is restarted now (?) 3rd base restarted for Curious
12:00 hydars kill 2 mutas burrow research started for Curious mutas at the 3rd of Symbol Roach runby in the natural and main of Curious roach runby at the 3rd of Curious Curious has roaches waiting at his 3rd and in his main
13:00 Roach hydra attack at the 3rd of Curious Symbol backs off Roaches and mutas of Curious give chase Symbol turns around to fight hydra range started for Symbol Curious kills the army of Symbol Curious is 30 supply ahead macro hatch for Curious +2 range attack started for Curious
14:00 infestation pit for Curious 2 more gas for Curious Curious sending his roaches across the map +2 range attack started for Symbol Hydras are exposed at Symbol's 3rd and kills right away roach reinforcements sandwich the army of Curious and push it back
15:00 +2 carapace started for Symbol pathogen glands started for Curious Curious sending his roaches across the map again infestor production started for Curious roach runby at the 3rd of Curious is intercepted. queen is saved by burrow
16:00 4th base for Curious more infestors coming out for Curious
17:00 Symbol constantly contaminating Curious's +2 range attack evo Hydralisk den started for Curious Symbol has 2-2 vs +2 attack for Curious
18:00 Symbol moving across the map now roach runby at the 4th of Curious roach runby into the main of Curious armies engage in the middle of the map all the hydras get fungaled in Symbol's army Symbol pushes back the army of Curious
19:00 Reinforcements come in for Curious from the side Roaches still killing drones in Curious's natural Symbol is 20 supply ahead Curious holds off the main army of Symbol 33 drones have been killed by Symbol
20:00 Roach battle in the middle of the map Superior upgraded roaches of Symbol are winning the fight Roaches attack the 4th of Curious and kill it as Curious backs off 4th base finished for Symbol Curious loses his infestors
21:00 Symbol is 40 supply ahead roaches of Curious attack into a roach hydra concave of Symbol Curious's army is destroyed Curious ggs! Symbol wins game 1!
curious made so many sloppy mistakes this game, started with not building his 2nd queen for 5 seconds, idling larvae in droning process and losing all mutas to the tiny roach hydra clump that he couldve killed with just his roaches
not at all looking as sharp as in ro32 and ro16 so far
On February 28 2013 18:33 Corrosive wrote: also i always wondered why people don't just always keep their queens burrowed and then unburrow to inject or if you need them. especially in zvz.
probably because if they arent being threatened then thats + 2 to actions (burrow and unburrow) for each inject, adds up to a lot in the long run
wow symbol pulling a very interesting start. gas is only 30 slower per min, and he gets his extractor starting there. pretty cool for the last time on this map potentially
On February 28 2013 18:35 Meiya wrote: Not as confident about Curious' dominance now heh.
Can't understand why people consider Symbol as underdog in this series.
Snute 4-0 Symbol in HomeStory Cup VI finals, Curious 70% ZvZ win rate in the GSL, Symbol's 50%... I can understand it... but I think Symbol still has this series.
GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro4 Symbol vs Curious Game 2 (1-0) Map: Icarus
0:00 Symbol spawns in the top left Curious spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Hatch first for Symbol Hatch first for Curious rich gas for Symbol pool for Curious pool for Symbol
3:00 gas for Curious Symbol long distance mining from the rich geyser
4:00 ling speed for Curious ling speed for Symbol baneling nest for Symbol
5:00 baneling nest for Curious lings of Curious are denied scouting 20+ lings started for both players
6:00 rich gas for Curious Curious sends his lings across the map but they are chased away by Symbol's banes both players making a bunch of banes Lair for Symbol spine for Symbol curious attacking intot he main of Symbol with banes but they are denied by queens and banes
7:00 Lair for Curious 2 more gas for Symbol Roach warren for Curious evo chamber for Curious
8:00 +1 range attack started for Curious Spire for Symbol 3rd base for Curious Roach speed for Curious
9:00 3rd base for Symbol evo chamber for Symbol overseer of Curious scouts the spire infestation pit for Curious
10:00 mutas started for Symbol macro hatch for Symbol Curious moving across the map with his roach force Curious attacks into the main of Symbol ling runby at the 3rd of Symbol
GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro4 Symbol vs Curious Game 2 (1-0) Map: Icarus
0:00 Symbol spawns in the top left Curious spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Hatch first for Symbol Hatch first for Curious rich gas for Symbol pool for Curious pool for Symbol
3:00 gas for Curious Symbol long distance mining from the rich geyser
4:00 ling speed for Curious ling speed for Symbol baneling nest for Symbol
5:00 baneling nest for Curious lings of Curious are denied scouting 20+ lings started for both players
6:00 rich gas for Curious Curious sends his lings across the map but they are chased away by Symbol's banes both players making a bunch of banes Lair for Symbol spine for Symbol curious attacking intot he main of Symbol with banes but they are denied by queens and banes
7:00 Lair for Curious 2 more gas for Symbol Roach warren for Curious evo chamber for Curious
8:00 +1 range attack started for Curious Spire for Symbol 3rd base for Curious Roach speed for Curious
9:00 3rd base for Symbol evo chamber for Symbol overseer of Curious scouts the spire infestation pit for Curious
10:00 mutas started for Symbol macro hatch for Symbol Curious moving across the map with his roach force Curious attacks into the main of Symbol ling runby at the 3rd of Symbol
11:00 Symbol saves his 3rd with 14 hp 1 roach survives the lings of Symbol in the natural and is killing drones Infestors coming out for Curious - pathogen glands almost done Roach warren for Symbol +1 range attack for Symbol Curious misclicks his roaches
12:00 lings are able to save the 3rd of Symbol because the roaches went on the wrong path spores started for Curious mutas harassing the main of Curious ling runby to the 3rd of Symbol is killed by a bane
13:00 +2 range attack started for Curious mutas harassing the 3rd of Symbol roach speed for Symbol
14:00 +2 range attack started for Symbol Hydralisk den started for Curious
15:00 burrow research started for Symbol Hydra range started for Curious mutas are trying to pick off infestors of Curious 2 fungals were used but the infestors escape mutas still trying to harass the main
GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro4 Symbol vs Curious Game 2 (1-0) Map: Icarus
0:00 Symbol spawns in the top left Curious spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Hatch first for Symbol Hatch first for Curious rich gas for Symbol pool for Curious pool for Symbol
3:00 gas for Curious Symbol long distance mining from the rich geyser
4:00 ling speed for Curious ling speed for Symbol baneling nest for Symbol
5:00 baneling nest for Curious lings of Curious are denied scouting 20+ lings started for both players
6:00 rich gas for Curious Curious sends his lings across the map but they are chased away by Symbol's banes both players making a bunch of banes Lair for Symbol spine for Symbol curious attacking intot he main of Symbol with banes but they are denied by queens and banes
7:00 Lair for Curious 2 more gas for Symbol Roach warren for Curious evo chamber for Curious
8:00 +1 range attack started for Curious Spire for Symbol 3rd base for Curious Roach speed for Curious
9:00 3rd base for Symbol evo chamber for Symbol overseer of Curious scouts the spire infestation pit for Curious
10:00 mutas started for Symbol macro hatch for Symbol Curious moving across the map with his roach force Curious attacks into the main of Symbol ling runby at the 3rd of Symbol
11:00 Symbol saves his 3rd with 14 hp 1 roach survives the lings of Symbol in the natural and is killing drones Infestors coming out for Curious - pathogen glands almost done Roach warren for Symbol +1 range attack for Symbol Curious misclicks his roaches
12:00 lings are able to save the 3rd of Symbol because the roaches went on the wrong path spores started for Curious mutas harassing the main of Curious ling runby to the 3rd of Symbol is killed by a bane
13:00 +2 range attack started for Curious mutas harassing the 3rd of Symbol roach speed for Symbol
14:00 +2 range attack started for Symbol Hydralisk den started for Curious
15:00 burrow research started for Symbol Hydra range started for Curious mutas are trying to pick off infestors of Curious 2 fungals were used but the infestors escape mutas still trying to harass the main
16:00 macro hatch for Curious Symbol splits his army and sends half to Curious's 3rd Curious fungals the army of Symbol on the ramp 2nd army of Symbol moving into the main of Curious roaches run into the natural of Curious more roaches going into the main of Curious
17:00 Curious cleans up the attack in his 3rd the hatch is at 1 hp 3 more roaches run in and kill it natural hatch of Curious falls Curious is up 60 supply
18:00 3rd base restarted for Curious Curious counterattacking only 1 infestor left for Curious roach runby to the 3rd of Curious Curious still 50 supply ahead
19:00 Curious just has more stuff and is breaking through Symbol's forces Symbol at half of Curious's supply Curious attacks into the main of Symbol Symbol ggs! Curious wins game 2!
That army vs base trade would've been fine if Smybol actually had the economy to reinforce afterwards, but with ~45workers (20 less than Curious) that was a failure.
GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro4 Symbol vs Curious Game 2 (1-0) Map: Icarus
0:00 Symbol spawns in the top left Curious spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Hatch first for Symbol Hatch first for Curious rich gas for Symbol pool for Curious pool for Symbol
3:00 gas for Curious Symbol long distance mining from the rich geyser
4:00 ling speed for Curious ling speed for Symbol baneling nest for Symbol
5:00 baneling nest for Curious lings of Curious are denied scouting 20+ lings started for both players
6:00 rich gas for Curious Curious sends his lings across the map but they are chased away by Symbol's banes both players making a bunch of banes Lair for Symbol spine for Symbol curious attacking intot he main of Symbol with banes but they are denied by queens and banes
7:00 Lair for Curious 2 more gas for Symbol Roach warren for Curious evo chamber for Curious
8:00 +1 range attack started for Curious Spire for Symbol 3rd base for Curious Roach speed for Curious
9:00 3rd base for Symbol evo chamber for Symbol overseer of Curious scouts the spire infestation pit for Curious
10:00 mutas started for Symbol macro hatch for Symbol Curious moving across the map with his roach force Curious attacks into the main of Symbol ling runby at the 3rd of Symbol
11:00 Symbol saves his 3rd with 14 hp 1 roach survives the lings of Symbol in the natural and is killing drones Infestors coming out for Curious - pathogen glands almost done Roach warren for Symbol +1 range attack for Symbol Curious misclicks his roaches
12:00 lings are able to save the 3rd of Symbol because the roaches went on the wrong path spores started for Curious mutas harassing the main of Curious ling runby to the 3rd of Symbol is killed by a bane
13:00 +2 range attack started for Curious mutas harassing the 3rd of Symbol roach speed for Symbol
14:00 +2 range attack started for Symbol Hydralisk den started for Curious
15:00 burrow research started for Symbol Hydra range started for Curious mutas are trying to pick off mutas of Curious 2 fungals were used but the infestors escape mutas still trying to harass the main
GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro4 Symbol vs Curious Game 2 (1-0) Map: Icarus
0:00 Symbol spawns in the top left Curious spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Hatch first for Symbol Hatch first for Curious rich gas for Symbol pool for Curious pool for Symbol
3:00 gas for Curious Symbol long distance mining from the rich geyser
4:00 ling speed for Curious ling speed for Symbol baneling nest for Symbol
5:00 baneling nest for Curious lings of Curious are denied scouting 20+ lings started for both players
6:00 rich gas for Curious Curious sends his lings across the map but they are chased away by Symbol's banes both players making a bunch of banes Lair for Symbol spine for Symbol curious attacking intot he main of Symbol with banes but they are denied by queens and banes
7:00 Lair for Curious 2 more gas for Symbol Roach warren for Curious evo chamber for Curious
8:00 +1 range attack started for Curious Spire for Symbol 3rd base for Curious Roach speed for Curious
9:00 3rd base for Symbol evo chamber for Symbol overseer of Curious scouts the spire infestation pit for Curious
10:00 mutas started for Symbol macro hatch for Symbol Curious moving across the map with his roach force Curious attacks into the main of Symbol ling runby at the 3rd of Symbol
11:00 Symbol saves his 3rd with 14 hp 1 roach survives the lings of Symbol in the natural and is killing drones Infestors coming out for Curious - pathogen glands almost done Roach warren for Symbol +1 range attack for Symbol Curious misclicks his roaches
12:00 lings are able to save the 3rd of Symbol because the roaches went on the wrong path spores started for Curious mutas harassing the main of Curious ling runby to the 3rd of Symbol is killed by a bane
13:00 +2 range attack started for Curious mutas harassing the 3rd of Symbol roach speed for Symbol
14:00 +2 range attack started for Symbol Hydralisk den started for Curious
15:00 burrow research started for Symbol Hydra range started for Curious mutas are trying to pick off mutas of Curious 2 fungals were used but the infestors escape mutas still trying to harass the main
I think you meant drones in here
haha yeah oops. let me fix that it was actually supposed to be infestors of Curious as they spawned in his main
On February 28 2013 18:50 dinosrwar wrote: So conflicted on who to root for. They are both so cuddly!
If that's your standard then you can't root for anyone but Losira after yesterday.
Oh there is definitely a cuddly scale. But yes, Losiracat is probably at the top ... next to Leenoctopus. Neither Taeja nor Roro are cuddly, so tomorrow's match I can just root for a TvZ finals.
On February 28 2013 18:52 sharkie wrote: Neither really strike me as championship material...
Is it just me or are both kinda "good but nothing special" players?
Symbol is incredibly smart. Curious probably played the best and most perfect standard ZvP against Parting in ro8. I think they are both pretty special.
I'm pretty sure I would have quit that last game after I failed to kill my opponents undefended hatch and then he snipes two of my well defended hatches. I'm really glad Curious didn't let that almost dead hatch fail shake his play.
GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro4 Symbol vs Curious Game 3 (1-1) Map: Whirlwind
0:00 Symbol spawns in the top left Curious spawns in the bottom left
2:00 Hatch first for Symbol Hatch first for Curious gas for Curious gas for Symbol pool for Symbol pool for Curious
3:00 Artosis broke Tasteless's PS3 with his dirty, sticky CD
4:00 ling speed for Curious ling speed for Symbol baneling nest for Symbol baneling nest for Curious
5:00 spine in the natural for Curious spine in the natural for Symbol 2 defensive banes for Curious
6:00 Lair for Curious Lair for Symbol 3 more gas for Symbol 2 more gas for Curious evo chamber for Symbol Roach warren for Symbol
7:00 another gas for Curious +1 range attack for Symbol Spire for Curious lings of Curious get into the main of Symbol and scout everything infestation pit for Symbol
8:00 Roach speed for Symbol 3rd base for Symbol 3rd base for Curious another spine for Curious ling runby at the 3rd of Symbol is killed by a bane pathogen glands for Symbol another spine for Curious
9:00 Roach warren for Curious evo chamber for Curious mutas started for Curious infestors started for Symbol ling runby at the 3rd of Symbol Hydralisk den for Symbol
10:00 +1 range attack started for Curious roach speed for Curious +2 range attack started for Symbol hydra range started for Symbol ling runby at the 3rd of Symbol kills a few drones mutas harassing the main of Symbol
GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro4 Symbol vs Curious Game 3 (1-1) Map: Whirlwind
0:00 Symbol spawns in the top left Curious spawns in the bottom left
2:00 Hatch first for Symbol Hatch first for Curious gas for Curious gas for Symbol pool for Symbol pool for Curious
3:00 Artosis broke Tasteless's PS3 with his dirty, sticky CD
4:00 ling speed for Curious ling speed for Symbol baneling nest for Symbol baneling nest for Curious
5:00 spine in the natural for Curious spine in the natural for Symbol 2 defensive banes for Curious
6:00 Lair for Curious Lair for Symbol 3 more gas for Symbol 2 more gas for Curious evo chamber for Symbol Roach warren for Symbol
7:00 another gas for Curious +1 range attack for Symbol Spire for Curious lings of Curious get into the main of Symbol and scout everything infestation pit for Symbol
8:00 Roach speed for Symbol 3rd base for Symbol 3rd base for Curious another spine for Curious ling runby at the 3rd of Symbol is killed by a bane pathogen glands for Symbol another spine for Curious
9:00 Roach warren for Curious evo chamber for Curious mutas started for Curious infestors started for Symbol ling runby at the 3rd of Symbol Hydralisk den for Symbol
10:00 +1 range attack started for Curious roach speed for Curious +2 range attack started for Symbol hydra range started for Symbol ling runby at the 3rd of Symbol kills a few drones mutas harassing the main of Symbol
11:00 ling runby at the 3rd of Curious kills the queen macro hatch for Curious
12:00 mutas harassing the 3rd of Symbol fungals hit 4 mutas and kill them infestation pit for Curious mutas come back into the 3rd and kill a few more drones
13:00 +2 range attack started for Curious Symbol moving out on the map mutas kill the queen at Symbol's 3rd Symbol sends his army back and catches the mutas with fungals pathogen glands for Curious
14:00 +1 carapace started for Symbol Roaches moving around the outside of the map for Curious symbol moving out to the center of the map again large roach attack at the 3rd of Symbol Symbol is going for the natural of Curious
15:00 fungals hit the roaches at the top of the ramp Symbol doesnt engage with his whole army at first infestors are out for Curious now roaches attacking the natural of Symbol Symbol is breaking into Curious's natural
GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro4 Symbol vs Curious Game 3 (1-1) Map: Whirlwind
0:00 Symbol spawns in the top left Curious spawns in the bottom left
2:00 Hatch first for Symbol Hatch first for Curious gas for Curious gas for Symbol pool for Symbol pool for Curious
3:00 Artosis broke Tasteless's PS3 with his dirty, sticky CD
4:00 ling speed for Curious ling speed for Symbol baneling nest for Symbol baneling nest for Curious
5:00 spine in the natural for Curious spine in the natural for Symbol 2 defensive banes for Curious
6:00 Lair for Curious Lair for Symbol 3 more gas for Symbol 2 more gas for Curious evo chamber for Symbol Roach warren for Symbol
7:00 another gas for Curious +1 range attack for Symbol Spire for Curious lings of Curious get into the main of Symbol and scout everything infestation pit for Symbol
8:00 Roach speed for Symbol 3rd base for Symbol 3rd base for Curious another spine for Curious ling runby at the 3rd of Symbol is killed by a bane pathogen glands for Symbol another spine for Curious
9:00 Roach warren for Curious evo chamber for Curious mutas started for Curious infestors started for Symbol ling runby at the 3rd of Symbol Hydralisk den for Symbol
10:00 +1 range attack started for Curious roach speed for Curious +2 range attack started for Symbol hydra range started for Symbol ling runby at the 3rd of Symbol kills a few drones mutas harassing the main of Symbol
11:00 ling runby at the 3rd of Curious kills the queen macro hatch for Curious
12:00 mutas harassing the 3rd of Symbol fungals hit 4 mutas and kill them infestation pit for Curious mutas come back into the 3rd and kill a few more drones
13:00 +2 range attack started for Curious Symbol moving out on the map mutas kill the queen at Symbol's 3rd Symbol sends his army back and catches the mutas with fungals pathogen glands for Curious
14:00 +1 carapace started for Symbol Roaches moving around the outside of the map for Curious symbol moving out to the center of the map again large roach attack at the 3rd of Symbol Symbol is going for the natural of Curious
15:00 fungals hit the roaches at the top of the ramp Symbol doesnt engage with his whole army at first infestors are out for Curious now roaches attacking the natural of Symbol Symbol is breaking into Curious's natural
16:00 Natural hatch of Symbol is killed Natural hatch of Curious is killed Symbol pulls his drones in the main to help fight the roaches Symbol is 20 supply ahead Symbol backs off after cleaning up the natural
17:00 Roaches in the main of Symbol Symbol attacking the 3rd of Curious Roach warren restarted for Curious more infestors coming out for both players Curious sending all of his roaches across the map 3rd base of Curious falls
18:00 drones of Symbol escape from his main Curious throwing up spines in his main Symbol attacking the main of Curious Curious doesnt have any energy left on his infestors
19:00 drones of Curious are fighting in his main Curious sending his roaches home Symbol building a hatch in Curious's main Curious has killed the main hatch of Symbol Curious is ahead 34 to 31 supply some more lings spawn in Curious's main
20:00 Symbol has 3 infestors not near his army that are moving across the map Curious starting another hatch in the bottom center lings come behind Roaches attack up the ramp fungals hit the lings and roaches infestors of Symbol arrive and fungal the roaches of Curious Curious ggs! Symbol wins game 3!
This is shaping up to be a really good series. I feel sorry for all those people missing this because they hate ZvZ. Imo ZvZ is the 3 rd best matchup in the game.
So close, thought Curious had it and he would've if he didn't wait for the infestors to regain their fungals since he could've walked up to the ramp, took out the hydras+infestors then hunted down the buildings etc...
I think Curious made a huge mistake and that was to not build a ton of spines in advance when he committed such a big part of his army to that counter attack he was setting up.
When Tasteless gave the stats for a pig orgasm, Artosis' response had me roaring with laughter: "That's... awesome" - the tone of it seemed to say "What the fuck did you just say Tasteless?!"
On February 28 2013 19:17 mongmong wrote: Symbol and Curious showing us how good ZvZ can be at the highest level of play 0_0 i tuned in cuz i couldnt sleep, but this is actually worth watching
There has been a few really good ZvZs over the last few months. Like, really good. Problem is, when there's a lot of ZvZ people tend to grow bored of the match-up no matter.
On February 28 2013 19:17 mongmong wrote: Symbol and Curious showing us how good ZvZ can be at the highest level of play 0_0 i tuned in cuz i couldnt sleep, but this is actually worth watching
There has been a few really good ZvZs over the last few months. Like, really good. Problem is, when there's a lot of ZvZ people tend to grow bored of the match-up no matter.
I know it's such a shame. I can understand people being mad at Zerg or just tired of ZvZ out the ass lately. But the matchup by itself has been highly entertaining imo. I laughed when people whined about tuning out prior to Leenock vs Violet, Leenock vs Life, and Life vs DRG and all of those were fucking sick.
On February 28 2013 19:15 sitromit wrote: I think Curious made a huge mistake and that was to not build a ton of spines in advance when he committed such a big part of his army to that counter attack he was setting up.
Thats what I was thiking too. Curious had the tools to defend his base better than he did (fungals on ramps and spines) so he "should" have won. Easy to say as a spectator though.
GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro4 Symbol vs Curious Game 4 (2-1) Map: Daybreak
0:00 Symbol spawns in the top right Curious spawns in the bottom left
2:00 hatch first for Symbol hatch first for Curious gas for Symbol pool for Curious pool for Symbol
3:00 gas for Curious
4:00 ling speed for Symbol ling speed for Curious baneling nest for Symbol
5:00 spine in the natural for Curious 18 lings on the way for Curious
6:00 gas for Symbol evo for Curious 3 defensive banes for Symbol are too late ling runby into the main of Symbol Symbol is able to hold off the attack
7:00 Roach warren for Symbol Roach warren for curious lings of Symbol counterattacking +1 range attack for Curious wall of Curious pushes back the lings Lair for Symbol Lair for Curious evo chamber for Symbol 2 more gas for Symbol
8:00 Roaches started for Curious another gas for Curious +1 range attack started for Symbol lings skirmishing on the map 3rd base for Curious
9:00 Roach speed for Symbol Roach speed for Curious 3rd base for Symbol infestation pit for Curious +2 range attack for Curious infestation pit for Symbol
10:00 roach attack at the 3rd of Symbol Symbol has roaches and lings ready to defend Curious backs off pathogen glands for Curious pathogen glands for Symbol
GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro4 Symbol vs Curious Game 4 (2-1) Map: Daybreak
0:00 Symbol spawns in the top right Curious spawns in the bottom left
2:00 hatch first for Symbol hatch first for Curious gas for Symbol pool for Curious pool for Symbol
3:00 gas for Curious
4:00 ling speed for Symbol ling speed for Curious baneling nest for Symbol
5:00 spine in the natural for Curious 18 lings on the way for Curious
6:00 gas for Symbol evo for Curious 3 defensive banes for Symbol are too late ling runby into the main of Symbol Symbol is able to hold off the attack
7:00 Roach warren for Symbol Roach warren for curious lings of Symbol counterattacking +1 range attack for Curious wall of Curious pushes back the lings Lair for Symbol Lair for Curious evo chamber for Symbol 2 more gas for Symbol
8:00 Roaches started for Curious another gas for Curious +1 range attack started for Symbol lings skirmishing on the map 3rd base for Curious
9:00 Roach speed for Symbol Roach speed for Curious 3rd base for Symbol infestation pit for Curious +2 range attack for Curious infestation pit for Symbol
10:00 roach attack at the 3rd of Symbol Symbol has roaches and lings ready to defend Curious backs off pathogen glands for Curious pathogen glands for Symbol
11:00 Curious looks to attack at the 3rd of Symbol again Curious has more roaches at the point of attack +2 range attack started for Symbol Curious breaks through the first round of roaches reinforcement roaches of Symbol come in and push Curious back
12:00 infestors coming out for both players Curious 20 supply ahead burrow research started for Symbol macro hatch for Curious
13:00 Curious moving across the map again macro hatch for Symbol 4th base for Curious 4th base for Symbol
14:00 Hydralisk den for Symbol +1 carapace for Symbol armies engage in the middle of the map Curious gets the better engagement and kills the roaches of Symbol Symbol picks off 2 infestors before they die burrow research started for Curious
15:00 Curious gets some reinforcements and is up 40 supply Curious attacking at the 3rd of Symbol Some of Curious's roaches are just sitting by his 4th at the rally point 4th base of Symbol is killed by a pack of roaches
Curious playing really sloppy. He didn't use his 4th base for a long time. He wasted a ton of units with bad engagements. He should have already won this game.
GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro4 Symbol vs Curious Game 4 (2-1) Map: Daybreak
0:00 Symbol spawns in the top right Curious spawns in the bottom left
2:00 hatch first for Symbol hatch first for Curious gas for Symbol pool for Curious pool for Symbol
3:00 gas for Curious
4:00 ling speed for Symbol ling speed for Curious baneling nest for Symbol
5:00 spine in the natural for Curious 18 lings on the way for Curious
6:00 gas for Symbol evo for Curious 3 defensive banes for Symbol are too late ling runby into the main of Symbol Symbol is able to hold off the attack
7:00 Roach warren for Symbol Roach warren for curious lings of Symbol counterattacking +1 range attack for Curious wall of Curious pushes back the lings Lair for Symbol Lair for Curious evo chamber for Symbol 2 more gas for Symbol
8:00 Roaches started for Curious another gas for Curious +1 range attack started for Symbol lings skirmishing on the map 3rd base for Curious
9:00 Roach speed for Symbol Roach speed for Curious 3rd base for Symbol infestation pit for Curious +2 range attack for Curious infestation pit for Symbol
10:00 roach attack at the 3rd of Symbol Symbol has roaches and lings ready to defend Curious backs off pathogen glands for Curious pathogen glands for Symbol
11:00 Curious looks to attack at the 3rd of Symbol again Curious has more roaches at the point of attack +2 range attack started for Symbol Curious breaks through the first round of roaches reinforcement roaches of Symbol come in and push Curious back
12:00 infestors coming out for both players Curious 20 supply ahead burrow research started for Symbol macro hatch for Curious
13:00 Curious moving across the map again macro hatch for Symbol 4th base for Curious 4th base for Symbol
14:00 Hydralisk den for Symbol +1 carapace for Symbol armies engage in the middle of the map Curious gets the better engagement and kills the roaches of Symbol Symbol picks off 2 infestors before they die burrow research started for Curious
15:00 Curious gets some reinforcements and is up 40 supply Curious attacking at the 3rd of Symbol Some of Curious's roaches are just sitting by his 4th at the rally point 4th base of Symbol is killed by a pack of roaches
16:00 Hydra range for Symbol Curious is pushed back Curious regroups with his roaches roach runby at the 3rd of Symbol roaches keep running through to the natural roaches burrowed in the natural mineral line of Symbol
17:00 Curious attacking into the 3rd of Symbol Roaches close in on the hydras Symbol's infestors are out of energy roach reinforcements of Symbol are able to push Curious back +2 carapace started for Curious
18:00 Hydralisk den started for Curious Symbol moving across the map Curiuos is only ahead by 10 supply now
19:00 4th base for Symbol Hydra range started for Curious +1 carapace for Symbol engagement to the south of Symbol's 3rd
20:00 2nd group of roaches comes in from near the 4th of Symbol but Curious is able to push it back Curious adding in more hydras Symbol counterattacking reinforcements arrive at Curious's 4th roach runby kills the 4th of Symbol Symbol retreats from Curious's side of the map
On February 28 2013 19:32 M.R. McThundercrotch wrote: Hahaha, roach/infestor makes for the most boring battles. Even in exciting games, the battles are just...dull.
GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro4 Symbol vs Curious Game 4 (2-1) Map: Daybreak
0:00 Symbol spawns in the top right Curious spawns in the bottom left
2:00 hatch first for Symbol hatch first for Curious gas for Symbol pool for Curious pool for Symbol
3:00 gas for Curious
4:00 ling speed for Symbol ling speed for Curious baneling nest for Symbol
5:00 spine in the natural for Curious 18 lings on the way for Curious
6:00 gas for Symbol evo for Curious 3 defensive banes for Symbol are too late ling runby into the main of Symbol Symbol is able to hold off the attack
7:00 Roach warren for Symbol Roach warren for curious lings of Symbol counterattacking +1 range attack for Curious wall of Curious pushes back the lings Lair for Symbol Lair for Curious evo chamber for Symbol 2 more gas for Symbol
8:00 Roaches started for Curious another gas for Curious +1 range attack started for Symbol lings skirmishing on the map 3rd base for Curious
9:00 Roach speed for Symbol Roach speed for Curious 3rd base for Symbol infestation pit for Curious +2 range attack for Curious infestation pit for Symbol
10:00 roach attack at the 3rd of Symbol Symbol has roaches and lings ready to defend Curious backs off pathogen glands for Curious pathogen glands for Symbol
11:00 Curious looks to attack at the 3rd of Symbol again Curious has more roaches at the point of attack +2 range attack started for Symbol Curious breaks through the first round of roaches reinforcement roaches of Symbol come in and push Curious back
12:00 infestors coming out for both players Curious 20 supply ahead burrow research started for Symbol macro hatch for Curious
13:00 Curious moving across the map again macro hatch for Symbol 4th base for Curious 4th base for Symbol
14:00 Hydralisk den for Symbol +1 carapace for Symbol armies engage in the middle of the map Curious gets the better engagement and kills the roaches of Symbol Symbol picks off 2 infestors before they die burrow research started for Curious
15:00 Curious gets some reinforcements and is up 40 supply Curious attacking at the 3rd of Symbol Some of Curious's roaches are just sitting by his 4th at the rally point 4th base of Symbol is killed by a pack of roaches
16:00 Hydra range for Symbol Curious is pushed back Curious regroups with his roaches roach runby at the 3rd of Symbol roaches keep running through to the natural roaches burrowed in the natural mineral line of Symbol
17:00 Curious attacking into the 3rd of Symbol Roaches close in on the hydras Symbol's infestors are out of energy roach reinforcements of Symbol are able to push Curious back +2 carapace started for Curious
18:00 Hydralisk den started for Curious Symbol moving across the map Curiuos is only ahead by 10 supply now
19:00 4th base for Symbol Hydra range started for Curious +1 carapace for Symbol engagement to the south of Symbol's 3rd
20:00 2nd group of roaches comes in from near the 4th of Symbol but Curious is able to push it back Curious adding in more hydras Symbol counterattacking reinforcements arrive at Curious's 4th roach runby kills the 4th of Symbol Symbol retreats from Curious's side of the map
21:00 Symbol looking to attack again near the 4th of Curious the armies are trading supplies staying relatively even Curious's reinforcements spawn and Symbol has to retreat
22:00 reinforcements are showing up for Symbol now Curious is 10 supply ahead
23:00 4th base restarted for Symbol Symbol lost all of his infestors so he's remaking them Curious still has 8 5th base for Curious
24:00 Hive for Curious Spire for Curious hydras of Curious killing overlords of Symbol out on the map Curious moving around the bottom of the map to kill more overlords
25:00 Curious putting up spines at his 4th Hive started for Symbol +2 carapace for symbol
GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro4 Symbol vs Curious Game 4 (2-1) Map: Daybreak
0:00 Symbol spawns in the top right Curious spawns in the bottom left
2:00 hatch first for Symbol hatch first for Curious gas for Symbol pool for Curious pool for Symbol
3:00 gas for Curious
4:00 ling speed for Symbol ling speed for Curious baneling nest for Symbol
5:00 spine in the natural for Curious 18 lings on the way for Curious
6:00 gas for Symbol evo for Curious 3 defensive banes for Symbol are too late ling runby into the main of Symbol Symbol is able to hold off the attack
7:00 Roach warren for Symbol Roach warren for curious lings of Symbol counterattacking +1 range attack for Curious wall of Curious pushes back the lings Lair for Symbol Lair for Curious evo chamber for Symbol 2 more gas for Symbol
8:00 Roaches started for Curious another gas for Curious +1 range attack started for Symbol lings skirmishing on the map 3rd base for Curious
9:00 Roach speed for Symbol Roach speed for Curious 3rd base for Symbol infestation pit for Curious +2 range attack for Curious infestation pit for Symbol
10:00 roach attack at the 3rd of Symbol Symbol has roaches and lings ready to defend Curious backs off pathogen glands for Curious pathogen glands for Symbol
11:00 Curious looks to attack at the 3rd of Symbol again Curious has more roaches at the point of attack +2 range attack started for Symbol Curious breaks through the first round of roaches reinforcement roaches of Symbol come in and push Curious back
12:00 infestors coming out for both players Curious 20 supply ahead burrow research started for Symbol macro hatch for Curious
13:00 Curious moving across the map again macro hatch for Symbol 4th base for Curious 4th base for Symbol
14:00 Hydralisk den for Symbol +1 carapace for Symbol armies engage in the middle of the map Curious gets the better engagement and kills the roaches of Symbol Symbol picks off 2 infestors before they die burrow research started for Curious
15:00 Curious gets some reinforcements and is up 40 supply Curious attacking at the 3rd of Symbol Some of Curious's roaches are just sitting by his 4th at the rally point 4th base of Symbol is killed by a pack of roaches
16:00 Hydra range for Symbol Curious is pushed back Curious regroups with his roaches roach runby at the 3rd of Symbol roaches keep running through to the natural roaches burrowed in the natural mineral line of Symbol
17:00 Curious attacking into the 3rd of Symbol Roaches close in on the hydras Symbol's infestors are out of energy roach reinforcements of Symbol are able to push Curious back +2 carapace started for Curious
18:00 Hydralisk den started for Curious Symbol moving across the map Curiuos is only ahead by 10 supply now
19:00 4th base for Symbol Hydra range started for Curious +1 carapace for Symbol engagement to the south of Symbol's 3rd
20:00 2nd group of roaches comes in from near the 4th of Symbol but Curious is able to push it back Curious adding in more hydras Symbol counterattacking reinforcements arrive at Curious's 4th roach runby kills the 4th of Symbol Symbol retreats from Curious's side of the map
21:00 Symbol looking to attack again near the 4th of Curious the armies are trading supplies staying relatively even Curious's reinforcements spawn and Symbol has to retreat
22:00 reinforcements are showing up for Symbol now Curious is 10 supply ahead
23:00 4th base restarted for Symbol Symbol lost all of his infestors so he's remaking them Curious still has 8 5th base for Curious
24:00 Hive for Curious Spire for Curious hydras of Curious killing overlords of Symbol out on the map Curious moving around the bottom of the map to kill more overlords
25:00 Curious putting up spines at his 4th Hive started for Symbol +2 carapace for symbol
26:00 Greater spire for Curious more spines for Curious roach runby at the 5th of Curious
27:00 Curious cleans it up more spines for Curious 20 spores going up for Symbol to cancel and go up to 217 supply Corruptors started for Curious
28:00 more spines for Curious Symbol moving around the top of the map Hive restarted for Symbol Brood lords started for Curious +1 air attack started for Curious 2nd spire for Curious spire for Symbol
29:00 5th base for Symbol 5 brood lords out for Curious more corruptors being made 10 spines going up for Symbol
30:00 Curiuos moving around the bottom of the map Symbol going around the top roach runby at the 5th of Symbol both armies retreat to their 4th 3 more broods for Curious Corruptors started for Symbol +3 range attack started for Symbol +1 air carapace started for Curious 5th of Symbol is killed
GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro4 Symbol vs Curious Game 4 (2-1) Map: Daybreak
0:00 Symbol spawns in the top right Curious spawns in the bottom left
2:00 hatch first for Symbol hatch first for Curious gas for Symbol pool for Curious pool for Symbol
3:00 gas for Curious
4:00 ling speed for Symbol ling speed for Curious baneling nest for Symbol
5:00 spine in the natural for Curious 18 lings on the way for Curious
6:00 gas for Symbol evo for Curious 3 defensive banes for Symbol are too late ling runby into the main of Symbol Symbol is able to hold off the attack
7:00 Roach warren for Symbol Roach warren for curious lings of Symbol counterattacking +1 range attack for Curious wall of Curious pushes back the lings Lair for Symbol Lair for Curious evo chamber for Symbol 2 more gas for Symbol
8:00 Roaches started for Curious another gas for Curious +1 range attack started for Symbol lings skirmishing on the map 3rd base for Curious
9:00 Roach speed for Symbol Roach speed for Curious 3rd base for Symbol infestation pit for Curious +2 range attack for Curious infestation pit for Symbol
10:00 roach attack at the 3rd of Symbol Symbol has roaches and lings ready to defend Curious backs off pathogen glands for Curious pathogen glands for Symbol
11:00 Curious looks to attack at the 3rd of Symbol again Curious has more roaches at the point of attack +2 range attack started for Symbol Curious breaks through the first round of roaches reinforcement roaches of Symbol come in and push Curious back
12:00 infestors coming out for both players Curious 20 supply ahead burrow research started for Symbol macro hatch for Curious
13:00 Curious moving across the map again macro hatch for Symbol 4th base for Curious 4th base for Symbol
14:00 Hydralisk den for Symbol +1 carapace for Symbol armies engage in the middle of the map Curious gets the better engagement and kills the roaches of Symbol Symbol picks off 2 infestors before they die burrow research started for Curious
15:00 Curious gets some reinforcements and is up 40 supply Curious attacking at the 3rd of Symbol Some of Curious's roaches are just sitting by his 4th at the rally point 4th base of Symbol is killed by a pack of roaches
16:00 Hydra range for Symbol Curious is pushed back Curious regroups with his roaches roach runby at the 3rd of Symbol roaches keep running through to the natural roaches burrowed in the natural mineral line of Symbol
17:00 Curious attacking into the 3rd of Symbol Roaches close in on the hydras Symbol's infestors are out of energy roach reinforcements of Symbol are able to push Curious back +2 carapace started for Curious
18:00 Hydralisk den started for Curious Symbol moving across the map Curiuos is only ahead by 10 supply now
19:00 4th base for Symbol Hydra range started for Curious +1 carapace for Symbol engagement to the south of Symbol's 3rd
20:00 2nd group of roaches comes in from near the 4th of Symbol but Curious is able to push it back Curious adding in more hydras Symbol counterattacking reinforcements arrive at Curious's 4th roach runby kills the 4th of Symbol Symbol retreats from Curious's side of the map
21:00 Symbol looking to attack again near the 4th of Curious the armies are trading supplies staying relatively even Curious's reinforcements spawn and Symbol has to retreat
22:00 reinforcements are showing up for Symbol now Curious is 10 supply ahead
23:00 4th base restarted for Symbol Symbol lost all of his infestors so he's remaking them Curious still has 8 5th base for Curious
24:00 Hive for Curious Spire for Curious hydras of Curious killing overlords of Symbol out on the map Curious moving around the bottom of the map to kill more overlords
25:00 Curious putting up spines at his 4th Hive started for Symbol +2 carapace for symbol
26:00 Greater spire for Curious more spines for Curious roach runby at the 5th of Curious
27:00 Curious cleans it up more spines for Curious 20 spores going up for Symbol to cancel and go up to 217 supply Corruptors started for Curious
28:00 more spines for Curious Symbol moving around the top of the map Hive restarted for Symbol Brood lords started for Curious +1 air attack started for Curious 2nd spire for Curious spire for Symbol
29:00 5th base for Symbol 5 brood lords out for Curious more corruptors being made 10 spines going up for Symbol
30:00 Curiuos moving around the bottom of the map Symbol going around the top roach runby at the 5th of Symbol both armies retreat to their 4th 3 more broods for Curious Corruptors started for Symbol +3 range attack started for Symbol +1 air carapace started for Curious 5th of Symbol is killed
31:00 +3 carapace started for Symbol Curious pushing towards the 4th of Symbol preemptive ITs thrown out by Curious Brood lords start sieging the spines +1 air attack for Symbol
32:00 5th base rebuilding for Symbol +2 air attack started for Curious more spines for Symbol corruptors for Symbol Brood lords sieging the 4th of Symbol again
33:00 Symbol throws out tons of IT and Curious backs off +2 air carapace started for Curious Greater spire for Symbol
34:00 roach runby at the 5th of Symbol Curious sending his whole army to Symbol's 5th 5th of Symbol is killed +1 melee started for Symbol adrenal glands for Symbol
35:00 Symbol attacking the 5th of Curious with his main army Brood lords go to the 4th of Symbol and start attacking fungal on all of the brood lords hydras trying to stop the corruptors
GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro4 Symbol vs Curious Game 4 (2-1) Map: Daybreak
0:00 Symbol spawns in the top right Curious spawns in the bottom left
2:00 hatch first for Symbol hatch first for Curious gas for Symbol pool for Curious pool for Symbol
3:00 gas for Curious
4:00 ling speed for Symbol ling speed for Curious baneling nest for Symbol
5:00 spine in the natural for Curious 18 lings on the way for Curious
6:00 gas for Symbol evo for Curious 3 defensive banes for Symbol are too late ling runby into the main of Symbol Symbol is able to hold off the attack
7:00 Roach warren for Symbol Roach warren for curious lings of Symbol counterattacking +1 range attack for Curious wall of Curious pushes back the lings Lair for Symbol Lair for Curious evo chamber for Symbol 2 more gas for Symbol
8:00 Roaches started for Curious another gas for Curious +1 range attack started for Symbol lings skirmishing on the map 3rd base for Curious
9:00 Roach speed for Symbol Roach speed for Curious 3rd base for Symbol infestation pit for Curious +2 range attack for Curious infestation pit for Symbol
10:00 roach attack at the 3rd of Symbol Symbol has roaches and lings ready to defend Curious backs off pathogen glands for Curious pathogen glands for Symbol
11:00 Curious looks to attack at the 3rd of Symbol again Curious has more roaches at the point of attack +2 range attack started for Symbol Curious breaks through the first round of roaches reinforcement roaches of Symbol come in and push Curious back
12:00 infestors coming out for both players Curious 20 supply ahead burrow research started for Symbol macro hatch for Curious
13:00 Curious moving across the map again macro hatch for Symbol 4th base for Curious 4th base for Symbol
14:00 Hydralisk den for Symbol +1 carapace for Symbol armies engage in the middle of the map Curious gets the better engagement and kills the roaches of Symbol Symbol picks off 2 infestors before they die burrow research started for Curious
15:00 Curious gets some reinforcements and is up 40 supply Curious attacking at the 3rd of Symbol Some of Curious's roaches are just sitting by his 4th at the rally point 4th base of Symbol is killed by a pack of roaches
16:00 Hydra range for Symbol Curious is pushed back Curious regroups with his roaches roach runby at the 3rd of Symbol roaches keep running through to the natural roaches burrowed in the natural mineral line of Symbol
17:00 Curious attacking into the 3rd of Symbol Roaches close in on the hydras Symbol's infestors are out of energy roach reinforcements of Symbol are able to push Curious back +2 carapace started for Curious
18:00 Hydralisk den started for Curious Symbol moving across the map Curiuos is only ahead by 10 supply now
19:00 4th base for Symbol Hydra range started for Curious +1 carapace for Symbol engagement to the south of Symbol's 3rd
20:00 2nd group of roaches comes in from near the 4th of Symbol but Curious is able to push it back Curious adding in more hydras Symbol counterattacking reinforcements arrive at Curious's 4th roach runby kills the 4th of Symbol Symbol retreats from Curious's side of the map
21:00 Symbol looking to attack again near the 4th of Curious the armies are trading supplies staying relatively even Curious's reinforcements spawn and Symbol has to retreat
22:00 reinforcements are showing up for Symbol now Curious is 10 supply ahead
23:00 4th base restarted for Symbol Symbol lost all of his infestors so he's remaking them Curious still has 8 5th base for Curious
24:00 Hive for Curious Spire for Curious hydras of Curious killing overlords of Symbol out on the map Curious moving around the bottom of the map to kill more overlords
25:00 Curious putting up spines at his 4th Hive started for Symbol +2 carapace for symbol
26:00 Greater spire for Curious more spines for Curious roach runby at the 5th of Curious
27:00 Curious cleans it up more spines for Curious 20 spores going up for Symbol to cancel and go up to 217 supply Corruptors started for Curious
28:00 more spines for Curious Symbol moving around the top of the map Hive restarted for Symbol Brood lords started for Curious +1 air attack started for Curious 2nd spire for Curious spire for Symbol
29:00 5th base for Symbol 5 brood lords out for Curious more corruptors being made 10 spines going up for Symbol
30:00 Curiuos moving around the bottom of the map Symbol going around the top roach runby at the 5th of Symbol both armies retreat to their 4th 3 more broods for Curious Corruptors started for Symbol +3 range attack started for Symbol +1 air carapace started for Curious 5th of Symbol is killed
31:00 +3 carapace started for Symbol Curious pushing towards the 4th of Symbol preemptive ITs thrown out by Curious Brood lords start sieging the spines +1 air attack for Symbol
32:00 5th base rebuilding for Symbol +2 air attack started for Curious more spines for Symbol corruptors for Symbol Brood lords sieging the 4th of Symbol again
33:00 Symbol throws out tons of IT and Curious backs off +2 air carapace started for Curious Greater spire for Symbol
34:00 roach runby at the 5th of Symbol Curious sending his whole army to Symbol's 5th 5th of Symbol is killed +1 melee started for Symbol adrenal glands for Symbol
35:00 Symbol attacking the 5th of Curious with his main army Brood lords go to the 4th of Symbol and start attacking fungal on all of the brood lords hydras trying to stop the corruptors
36:00 Hydras of Curious kill all the corruptors of Symbol Brood lords attacking the 4th of Symbol 5th base restarted for Curious Symbol sending his army home 4th of Symbol dies more brood lords on the way for Curious
37:00 symbol sending his army towards the 5th of Curious again single roach denies the 5th of Symbol 4th restarted for Symbol 3-3 air upgrades started for Curious roach runby to the 5th of Curious is denied
38:00 armies engage in the middle of the map ITs hydras and brood ligns everywhere Symbol loses his whole army Curious is 90 supply ahead Symbol ggs! Curious wins game 4!
haha... love the bias on TL: 10mins of maneuvering while building up artillery in TvT "sick TvT so gosuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu" 10mins of maneuvering while building up artillery in ZvZ "booooooooooooooriiiiiiiiiiing"
On February 28 2013 19:46 Big J wrote: haha... love the bias on TL: 10mins of maneuvering while building up artillery in TvT "sick TvT so gosuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu" 10mins of maneuvering while building up artillery in ZvZ "booooooooooooooriiiiiiiiiiing"
On February 28 2013 19:46 Big J wrote: haha... love the bias on TL: 10mins of maneuvering while building up artillery in TvT "sick TvT so gosuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu" 10mins of maneuvering while building up artillery in ZvZ "booooooooooooooriiiiiiiiiiing"
My thoughts exactly.
This was a GREAT ZvZ
Curious is great, symbol not so much, always slow, even in previous games he won.
in a weird way, symbol holding on for so long really works psychologically, curious is thinking that he has to play these insane 30 minute games just to kill symbol.
On February 28 2013 19:46 Big J wrote: haha... love the bias on TL: 10mins of maneuvering while building up artillery in TvT "sick TvT so gosuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu" 10mins of maneuvering while building up artillery in ZvZ "booooooooooooooriiiiiiiiiiing"
If this was TvT and one terran lost his 3d, and was in 4 base vs 5 base, it shouldn't have lasted even close to 40m game, really.
On February 28 2013 19:46 Big J wrote: haha... love the bias on TL: 10mins of maneuvering while building up artillery in TvT "sick TvT so gosuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu" 10mins of maneuvering while building up artillery in ZvZ "booooooooooooooriiiiiiiiiiing"
On February 28 2013 19:46 Big J wrote: haha... love the bias on TL: 10mins of maneuvering while building up artillery in TvT "sick TvT so gosuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu" 10mins of maneuvering while building up artillery in ZvZ "booooooooooooooriiiiiiiiiiing"
Haha pretty much this.. People just hate zerg so much these days
On February 28 2013 19:46 Big J wrote: haha... love the bias on TL: 10mins of maneuvering while building up artillery in TvT "sick TvT so gosuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu" 10mins of maneuvering while building up artillery in ZvZ "booooooooooooooriiiiiiiiiiing"
If this was TvT and one terran lost his 3d, and was in 4 base vs 5 base, it shouldn't have lasted even close to 40m game, really.
Really? TvT is even harder to break through defense because of tanklines. If anything it could get on for waaay longer.
On February 28 2013 19:46 Big J wrote: haha... love the bias on TL: 10mins of maneuvering while building up artillery in TvT "sick TvT so gosuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu" 10mins of maneuvering while building up artillery in ZvZ "booooooooooooooriiiiiiiiiiing"
I don't know ... TvT tank wars things actually blow up due to the burst dmg. When you're just shuffling broodlords around and tossing IT eggs, nothing much really happens.
On February 28 2013 19:46 Big J wrote: haha... love the bias on TL: 10mins of maneuvering while building up artillery in TvT "sick TvT so gosuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu" 10mins of maneuvering while building up artillery in ZvZ "booooooooooooooriiiiiiiiiiing"
That last game was actually exciting, at least until the long BL/infestor death animation began.
On February 28 2013 19:46 Big J wrote: haha... love the bias on TL: 10mins of maneuvering while building up artillery in TvT "sick TvT so gosuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu" 10mins of maneuvering while building up artillery in ZvZ "booooooooooooooriiiiiiiiiiing"
If this was TvT and one terran lost his 3d, and was in 4 base vs 5 base, it shouldn't have lasted even close to 40m game, really.
Really? TvT is even harder to break through defense because of tanklines. If anything it could get on for waaay longer.
Terran got pretty good at snowballing the small advantages into winning games
It's just that Infestors come to bite zergs in the ass: you can just throw your advantage if you mess up a little with your micro and positioning.
Sickest ZvZ matches I've seen in a while. And while I prefer TvT's positional play, this is pretty entertaining too, especially when zerg gets brood lords, their own siege unit.
It's strange they normally try to keep consistency in player colors in these matches in the GSL, don't they? Did players pick the wrong colors by mistake?
GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro4 Symbol vs Curious Game 5 (2-2) Map: Neo Planet S
0:00 Symbol spawns in the bottom left Curious spawns in the top right
2:00 pool first for Symbol hatch first for Curious pool for Curious hatch for Symbol
3:00 gas for Curious
4:00 ling speed for Curious ling of Curious gets into the main of Symbol and scouts no gas
5:00 double gas for Symbol in his natural after killing the ling spine in the natural for Symbol
6:00 Roach warren for Curious evo chamber for Curious 3rd base for Curious Lair for Symbol double evo for Symbol 2 more gas for Curious another gas for Symbol Roach warren for Symbol +1 attack started for Curious +1 attack started for Symbol
7:00 air for Curious +1 carapace started for Symbol Roach speed for Symbol +1 carapace of Symbol canceled 11 roaches started for Symbol
8:00 Roach speed for Curious Roaches started for Curious Symbol moving out creep highway from Symbol Spine and queens coming with the army of Symbol
9:00 queens transfusing the roaches of Symbol as the armies engage Curious kills the spine before it burrows Symbol targets down the evo chamber of Curious before +1 attack finishes +1 attack finishes for Symbol the armies engage
10:00 Symbol breaks through into the natural drones in the natural are pulled to defend Symbol kiting back Symbol is up 28 supply Curious ggs! Symbol wins game 5!
EVERYTHING changed with that upgrade not finishing. Literally hundreds of roach shots not affected by +1 would have changed the game in a battle THAT close.
GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro4 Symbol vs Curious Game 6 (3-2) Map: Akilon Flats
0:00 Symbol spawns in the top left Curious spawns in the bottom right
2:00 pool first for Curious Hatch first for Symbol gas for Curious pool for Symbol Hatch for Curious
3:00 ling speed for Curious
4:00 Curious pooling lings in the back of his base
5:00 ling of Symbol sees no drones mining at Curious's natural 4 spines started for Symbol lings started for Symbol queens coming to the ramp for Symbol Curious sending his lings across the map all the spines are going to be finished Curious sees all of the spines
o.o what, these guys read each others minds or something "Artosis: If anyone here is Guile its Symbol. Tasteless: Yeah with all those sonic booms. Artosis: yeah. (no reaction)" ... am I the only one who had no idea what the heck they were talking about? lol
On February 28 2013 20:11 Confuse wrote: o.o what, these guys read each others minds or something "Artosis: If anyone here is Guile its Symbol. Tasteless: Yeah with all those sonic booms. Artosis: yeah. (no reaction)" ... am I the only one who had no idea what the heck they were talking about? lol
GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro4 Symbol vs Curious Game 6 (3-2) Map: Akilon Flats
0:00 Symbol spawns in the top left Curious spawns in the bottom right
2:00 pool first for Curious Hatch first for Symbol gas for Curious pool for Symbol Hatch for Curious
3:00 ling speed for Curious
4:00 Curious pooling lings in the back of his base
5:00 ling of Symbol sees no drones mining at Curious's natural 4 spines started for Symbol lings started for Symbol queens coming to the ramp for Symbol Curious sending his lings across the map all the spines are going to be finished Curious sees all of the spines
6:00 double gas for Symbol Curious trying to drone up again Symbol repositioning his spines
7:00 2 more gas for Curious Curious attacks into the natural and is deflected 3rd base for Curious Lair for Symbol Roach warren for Curious evo chamber for Curious double evo for Symbol another gas for Curious
8:00 Lair for Curious Roach warren for Symbol +1 range attack for Symbol +1 range attack for Curious +1 carapace for Symbol
9:00 Hydra den for Symbol Roach speed for Symbol Roach speed for Curious Symbol breaking down the rocks from his natural
10:00 Hydra production started for Symbol ling runby into the main of Symbol 2nd evo for Curious 3rd base for Symbol lings force a cancel on the 3rd of Symbol 3rd base restarted for Symbol
On February 28 2013 20:11 Confuse wrote: o.o what, these guys read each others minds or something "Artosis: If anyone here is Guile its Symbol. Tasteless: Yeah with all those sonic booms. Artosis: yeah. (no reaction)" ... am I the only one who had no idea what the heck they were talking about? lol
Street Fighter?
obviously street fighter but what does that have to do with Symbol's play?
On February 28 2013 20:11 Confuse wrote: o.o what, these guys read each others minds or something "Artosis: If anyone here is Guile its Symbol. Tasteless: Yeah with all those sonic booms. Artosis: yeah. (no reaction)" ... am I the only one who had no idea what the heck they were talking about? lol
Probably, was a Street Fighter call most people in gaming community would only know of the word Guile relating to it working with everything
On February 28 2013 20:11 Confuse wrote: o.o what, these guys read each others minds or something "Artosis: If anyone here is Guile its Symbol. Tasteless: Yeah with all those sonic booms. Artosis: yeah. (no reaction)" ... am I the only one who had no idea what the heck they were talking about? lol
Street Fighter?
obviously street fighter but what does that have to do with Symbol's play?
It means like sneaky/cunning
guile (gl) n. 1. Treacherous cunning; skillful deceit. 2. Obsolete A trick or stratagem.
GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro4 Symbol vs Curious Game 6 (3-2) Map: Akilon Flats
0:00 Symbol spawns in the top left Curious spawns in the bottom right
2:00 pool first for Curious Hatch first for Symbol gas for Curious pool for Symbol Hatch for Curious
3:00 ling speed for Curious
4:00 Curious pooling lings in the back of his base
5:00 ling of Symbol sees no drones mining at Curious's natural 4 spines started for Symbol lings started for Symbol queens coming to the ramp for Symbol Curious sending his lings across the map all the spines are going to be finished Curious sees all of the spines
6:00 double gas for Symbol Curious trying to drone up again Symbol repositioning his spines
7:00 2 more gas for Curious Curious attacks into the natural and is deflected 3rd base for Curious Lair for Symbol Roach warren for Curious evo chamber for Curious double evo for Symbol another gas for Curious
8:00 Lair for Curious Roach warren for Symbol +1 range attack for Symbol +1 range attack for Curious +1 carapace for Symbol
9:00 Hydra den for Symbol Roach speed for Symbol Roach speed for Curious Symbol breaking down the rocks from his natural
10:00 Hydra production started for Symbol ling runby into the main of Symbol 2nd evo for Curious 3rd base for Symbol lings force a cancel on the 3rd of Symbol 3rd base restarted for Symbol
11:00 +1 carapace started for Curious infestation pit for Curious Curious sending roaches across the map +2 range attack started for Curious
12:00 Roaches and hydras of Symbol are in position and chases Curious back pathogen gland started for Curious Symbol just sending his army across the map to counter Symbol sending queens and spines with his attack
13:00 infestors started for Curious battle starts outside Curious's base spines start starting to burrow drones of Curious are pulled to defend Symbol is jumping ahead in supply
14:00 symbol is 30 supply ahead Curious's defense is breaking Curious is able to hold with his reinforcements Symbol is still 30 supply ahead next wave comes for Symbol
15:00 Symbol goes to attack the 3rd of Curious infestation pit is at Curious's 3rd as well 3rd base of Curious is killed Symbol is ahead by 45 supply now Symbol is ahead by 20 roaches Symbol attacks into the natural of Curious Curious doesnt have enough to defend Symbol is pulling further and further ahead in supply Curious ggs! Symbol wins 4-2 and advances to the finals!
On February 28 2013 20:11 Confuse wrote: o.o what, these guys read each others minds or something "Artosis: If anyone here is Guile its Symbol. Tasteless: Yeah with all those sonic booms. Artosis: yeah. (no reaction)" ... am I the only one who had no idea what the heck they were talking about? lol
Street Fighter?
obviously street fighter but what does that have to do with Symbol's play?
It means like sneaky/cunning
guile (gl) n. 1. Treacherous cunning; skillful deceit. 2. Obsolete A trick or stratagem.
ohhhhhhhhhhhhh. now i get it. thanks! lol
cant feel too bad for curious with Symbol so happy, glad he got it, definitely deserved
On February 28 2013 20:11 Confuse wrote: o.o what, these guys read each others minds or something "Artosis: If anyone here is Guile its Symbol. Tasteless: Yeah with all those sonic booms. Artosis: yeah. (no reaction)" ... am I the only one who had no idea what the heck they were talking about? lol
Street Fighter?
obviously street fighter but what does that have to do with Symbol's play?
It means like sneaky/cunning
guile (gl) n. 1. Treacherous cunning; skillful deceit. 2. Obsolete A trick or stratagem.
ohhhhhhhhhhhhh. now i get it. thanks! lol
cant feel too bad for curious with Symbol so happy, glad he got it, definitely deserved
No worries mate, your name was fitting in this scenario :D
gg you guys missed our chance to have all 7 games rated ≥ 75% yes by not recommending the spoiler free game 7 D: It would have surely been the sign of the apocalypse to have all 7 games of a ZvZ bo7 highly recommended
On February 28 2013 20:19 Shellshock1122 wrote: Dammit... I really thought this was Curious's season. I hope whichever player comes out of the other semi beats Symbol in the finals :/
For some reason I just don't really like Symbol that much, really hoping for Taeja to 4-0 both Roro and Symbol. =D
On February 28 2013 20:25 styLesdavis wrote: Interesting that Symbol nearly lost against TLO (Bo5) at HSC VI and had no real chance against Snute (Bo7) but manages to advance to the GSL Finals.
What's even more ridiculous is if Center hadn't completely fucked up in the up and down matches Symbol wouldn't have even been in Code S this season.
On February 28 2013 20:25 styLesdavis wrote: Interesting that Symbol nearly lost against TLO (Bo5) at HSC VI and had no real chance against Snute (Bo7) but manages to advance to the GSL Finals.
Its also interesting how time has passed since those tournaments, and things happened between then and now, lol.
On February 28 2013 20:25 styLesdavis wrote: Interesting that Symbol nearly lost against TLO (Bo5) at HSC VI and had no real chance against Snute (Bo7) but manages to advance to the GSL Finals.
On February 28 2013 20:25 Blacktion wrote: Tasteless saying its a win if the finals is ZvZ? I get they cant say "sorry folks we know this is shitty" but come on.
On February 28 2013 20:25 styLesdavis wrote: Interesting that Symbol nearly lost against TLO (Bo5) at HSC VI and had no real chance against Snute (Bo7) but manages to advance to the GSL Finals.
What's even more ridiculous is if Center hadn't completely fucked up in the up and down matches Symbol wouldn't have even been in Code S this season.
What's more ridiculous is how DAVIT beat Genius in the Ro64 of GSL open season 1 when Genius could have easily closed out the season and become the first GSL champion.
EDIT: And of course we'll all be watching LoL. It's super week! (excited for that)
On February 28 2013 20:25 styLesdavis wrote: Interesting that Symbol nearly lost against TLO (Bo5) at HSC VI and had no real chance against Snute (Bo7) but manages to advance to the GSL Finals.
What's even more ridiculous is if Center hadn't completely fucked up in the up and down matches Symbol wouldn't have even been in Code S this season.
What's more ridiculous is how DAVIT beat Genius in the Ro64 of GSL open season 1 when Genius could have easily closed out the season and become the first GSL champion.
On February 28 2013 20:25 Blacktion wrote: Tasteless saying its a win if the finals is ZvZ? I get they cant say "sorry folks we know this is shitty" but come on.
After today's semis and countless other great ZvZ series over the past few months, people still say this?
On February 28 2013 20:25 styLesdavis wrote: Interesting that Symbol nearly lost against TLO (Bo5) at HSC VI and had no real chance against Snute (Bo7) but manages to advance to the GSL Finals.
What's even more ridiculous is if Center hadn't completely fucked up in the up and down matches Symbol wouldn't have even been in Code S this season.
Actually if Center didn't completely fuck up, Symbol would still be in Code S... ByuN wouldn't, though.
On February 28 2013 20:25 Blacktion wrote: Tasteless saying its a win if the finals is ZvZ? I get they cant say "sorry folks we know this is shitty" but come on.
After today's semis and countless other great ZvZ series over the past few months, people still say this?
Wtf
Well, there were some pretty bad games today Like the 20 minute death animation with broodlords...
But yeah, remember Life v DRG. That was an incredible ZvZ finals. It's just that Symbol v Roro won't be as good.
On February 28 2013 20:25 Blacktion wrote: Tasteless saying its a win if the finals is ZvZ? I get they cant say "sorry folks we know this is shitty" but come on.
After today's semis and countless other great ZvZ series over the past few months, people still say this?
Wtf
People refuse to give certain matchups a chance because they've been burned before.
Me personally I struggle to get excited for PvPs because the period where I watched the most starcraft (when unemployed) was during the era of 4 gate or collosus wars. We got rid of one, but I'm still scarred.
ZvZ is fine for me though. Today's series was pretty good. Lots of back and forward!
On February 28 2013 20:25 styLesdavis wrote: Interesting that Symbol nearly lost against TLO (Bo5) at HSC VI and had no real chance against Snute (Bo7) but manages to advance to the GSL Finals.
players improve. GSL is a prep based match. I guess thats why :0
On February 28 2013 20:25 styLesdavis wrote: Interesting that Symbol nearly lost against TLO (Bo5) at HSC VI and had no real chance against Snute (Bo7) but manages to advance to the GSL Finals.
What's even more ridiculous is if Center hadn't completely fucked up in the up and down matches Symbol wouldn't have even been in Code S this season.
Actually if Center didn't completely fuck up, Symbol would still be in Code S... ByuN wouldn't, though.
ah that's true. I forgot ByuN lost to Symbol. I thought he won for some reason. Then I guess I'm wrong. still a terrible throw by Center. wtf was that >.>
no way taeja can win. maybe summer taeja, but broken wrist taeja can never overcome the gglord and winfestor bs. although given how volatile sc2 is, he might just luck out. but probably not. RIP post queen patch WOL you will not be missed. worst patch ever. single handedly killed the game and made it boring as all hell. gj david kim.
So bummed I didn't get a chance to watch this, but fuck yeah Symbol. Super stoked that he made it to the finals. I've been following him for a long ass time and I'm happy to see him finally make it to the biggest stage.
Hopefully Taeja can dismantle Roro and bless me with two of my absolute favourites in the finals of Code S. Finally change that </3 back to a <3. It's been a long time coming.
We have seen this pattern many times this season. Symbol goes into the match as an underdog and despite never looking quite convincing in the games he manages to win just enough to move on.
The interesting thing about GSL was that it was different. The foreign scene has been dominated by zergs for such a long time but the GSL terrans could somehow grab that wins.
Now it feels just about the same - I just watched P's and T's getting owned just the same in aAa pro cup. It also had 1T/3Z in ro4. Yesterday we had some nice full bo7 ZvZ finals featuring Snute and Vortix... hard to get excited about yet another ZvZ.
I love ZvZ timing attacks, really cool to see Symbol using some of those, especially the one on Planet S. I also like the Infestor-less Snute style he used on Bel'Shir. Good series! I'm so glad for Symbol, I'm so glad he'll get his chance that he so obviously deserves.
Yeahhhh Symbol, now Taeja just has to win and we get the perfect finals. The battle of the hot players of mid 2012 who have returned in the final hour of wings to take what they should have taken last year.