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This is the Live Report Thread for IPL 6 International Wings of Liberty Satellite Qualifier. We will have Jmorrow live-casting the preliminary rounds and the semi-finals and finals for each qualifier cast in studio. The top 3 players at this even will receive a seed in the Wings of Liberty Main Bracket at IPL 6.
International Satellite - Wednesday February 13 - 9am Pacific - BRACKET
Live Qualifier Cast: Wednesday, Feb 13 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
Semis and Finals: Thursday, Feb 14 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
+ Show Spoiler [Semi-final: Revival v aLive Results] + aLive < Cloud Kingdom > Revival
aLive < Ohana > Revival
+ Show Spoiler [Semi-final: HyuN v PuMa Results] + HyuN < Cloud Kingdom > PuMa
HyuN < Entombed Valley > PuMa
+ Show Spoiler [Third/Fourth Place Match Results] + aLive < Daybreak > PuMa
aLive < Cloud Kingdom > PuMa
aLive < Entombed Valley > PuMa
Poll: Who will win?MaSsan (98) 50% HerO (23) 12% Life (22) 11% Someone else? (13) 7% Bomber (9) 5% TaeJa (8) 4% Snute (7) 4% Hyun (4) 2% Revival (3) 2% aLive (3) 2% Ryung (2) 1% Crank (2) 1% MMA (1) 1% 195 total votes Your vote: Who will win? (Vote): Life
(Vote): Hyun
(Vote): HerO
(Vote): TaeJa
(Vote): Bomber
(Vote): MMA
(Vote): Ryung
(Vote): Revival
(Vote): aLive
(Vote): Crank
(Vote): Snute
(Vote): MaSsan
(Vote): Someone else?
Map List
IPL6 Daybreak
IPL6 Cloud Kingdom
IPL6 Ohana
IPL6 Entombed Valley
The first map will be on a set rotation, and then it is loser's pick.
Casters
Today's Live Qualifier cast will be by Jmorrow and the semis and finals will be cast in house by Tim "Robin" Frazier and Andrew "Kibbelz" Dunne!
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Azubu picked up Sia? thats news to me
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United States97276 Posts
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What is a satelite anyway in means of a tournament?
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On February 13 2013 15:09 elfonse wrote:
Azubu picked up Sia? thats news to me
you have a good eye, im curious about this
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On February 13 2013 16:05 408xParadox wrote:
What is a satelite anyway in means of a tournament?
IPL's fancy word for qualifier. Top 3 of this qualify for IPL6.
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MOTHER FUCKING MaSsan GONNA WIN
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never heard of any of these players except for massan
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MaSsan shall surely take this tournament.
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Haven't been very impressed by Koreans lately, MasSan should have a pretty straightforward path to the finals
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
Really do think IPL missed a trick here making this a WOL tournament. I mean outside of Korea i don't many pros are "full time" on WOL? Think even the Koreans on EG are playing HOTS full time now. I just feel this tournament is going to be the equivalent of Code A. Bunch of all ins. Just think it will be a rather low level finish to WOL which i think is a bit meh.
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FYI: "AzubuSia is an ID of our Zerg player, Jong-Hyuk Choi whose also known as Bboong"
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Australia54784 Posts
what's with the poll results? haha
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On February 13 2013 19:39 opterown wrote:
what's with the poll results? haha
dunno just vote for MaSsan 
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I guess that this "MaSsan" is better then top tier koreans? Taeja, life, bomber, herO... how is that possible if the only thing he really did is defeating EGSuppy in MLG.
this poll has some biased answers.
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Norway839 Posts
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MaSsan, MaSsan, MaSsan FIGHTING!
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
Life should beat MaSsan in the finals, but it'll be close
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so theres a match in the bracket thats TOP vs oGsTOP. I am confused
EDIT: Match AT for those that want to see it for themselves
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IPL6 International WoL Satellite has just started! Keep track of the progress of your favorite players via either the challonge bracket (http://challonge.com/IPL6INTsat) or the Liquipedia page (http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IGN_ProLeague_Season_6/International_Satellite)
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Couldn't get my revenge on you from IPL4 Crank...but Son will do it for me
...f'n zvz lol
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Sorry got that info first hand from AZUBU - But it's been taken back. Some miscommunication going around - I apologize for that. Sia is indeed trainee at Azubu right now
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On February 13 2013 22:42 mkkillah wrote:
I guess that this "MaSsan" is better then top tier koreans? Taeja, life, bomber, herO... how is that possible if the only thing he really did is defeating EGSuppy in MLG.
this poll has some biased answers.
Yeah, probably troll votes. There's better choices that could have been included as the final option in the poll like, say, Nerchio or TOP or Puma.
(Incidentally, looking at the bracket, MaSsan's already been knocked out by PiG in the first round).
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On February 14 2013 02:45 metroid composite wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2013 22:42 mkkillah wrote:
I guess that this "MaSsan" is better then top tier koreans? Taeja, life, bomber, herO... how is that possible if the only thing he really did is defeating EGSuppy in MLG.
this poll has some biased answers. Yeah, probably troll votes. There's better choices that could have been included as the final option in the poll like, say, Nerchio or TOP or Puma. (Incidentally, looking at the bracket, MaSsan's already been knocked out by PiG in the first round).
He got a walkover, still a huge upset for PiG though, congratulations to him on this fantastic result
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Looks like Life forfeit. He's playing in the eSF seeding tournament, I guess that's why.
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On February 13 2013 23:31 Zealously wrote:
Life should beat MaSsan in the finals, but it'll be close
I dunno dude. I mean Life is an amazing player, but MaSsan is..well..MaSsan.
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Who are these noobs? MaSsan will win ez.
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No replays <- sad panda. :D
STC you can win this!
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France7248 Posts
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Guys, vote for MaSsan. He will crush this shit easily.
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On February 14 2013 03:41 Yhamm wrote:
Who is Aug? beat MMA 2-0
Perhaps August? a player that used to be on Fnatic's Korean Academy
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On February 14 2013 03:52 Tidus Mino wrote:Perhaps August? a player that used to be on Fnatic's Korean Academy
Yep
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On February 14 2013 03:52 Tidus Mino wrote:Perhaps August? a player that used to be on Fnatic's Korean Academy
I don't know him so you may be right, thx
edit: and confirmed by IPL
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Sloppy Taeja
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Austria24417 Posts
Rofl what's with the poll
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Canada16217 Posts
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Austria24417 Posts
HerO always drops stargate if he doesn't scout third
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Could be something interesting by Nerchio
Mutas cant run from phoenixes but phoenixes cant always kill mutas.
Poor nerchio. Thought he had managed to get momentum.
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On February 14 2013 03:53 IGNProLeague wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 03:52 Tidus Mino wrote:On February 14 2013 03:41 Yhamm wrote:
Who is Aug? beat MMA 2-0 Perhaps August? a player that used to be on Fnatic's Korean Academy Yep
Actually I was wrong. Aug was Alicia.
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Austria24417 Posts
That was reeeeaaaally strong by HerO. Playing phoenix vs mass muta is so hard, one misstep and you insta lose
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Engaging there seemed to be wrong. And I don't get why he doesn't add ~3+ Infestors to potentially kill all the Phoenixes in one swing.
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Hyun's worst match up is his ZvZ no ?
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On February 14 2013 04:52 Swiipii wrote:
Hyun's worst match up is his ZvZ no ?
Statistically, yes.
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Seems like 1-0 for Steph.
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HerO had no idea Mutas were coming, now he is pretty behind.
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On February 14 2013 05:02 Nelz wrote:
Seems like 1-0 for Steph.
looks like it yeah 
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Austria24417 Posts
Well nice gamble by Nerchio, he'd have died to anything resembling a gateway pressure/attack
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On February 14 2013 05:04 Yhamm wrote:looks like it yeah
Where can you see that please ?
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Yeah just a msiread by HerO. Nerchio got momentum and now its the 15 minute death sequence.
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Austria24417 Posts
More of a gamble build, if it'd been scouted he'd have lost the game
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On February 14 2013 05:07 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 05:04 Yhamm wrote:On February 14 2013 05:02 Nelz wrote:
Seems like 1-0 for Steph. looks like it yeah Where can you see that please ?
on his korean profile, he won a custom game on Ohana
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Thanks !
EDIT : Wait, when were the other games played ? There is only one game played on 13 February.
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On February 14 2013 04:55 PhoenixVoid wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 04:52 Swiipii wrote:
Hyun's worst match up is his ZvZ no ?
Statistically, yes.
Ok thank you
aLive looks in shape :D
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A lot can be said about Kespa, but at least their players dont type retarded nonsense during the game.
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France7248 Posts
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HerO is really favoring his Stargate play this series.
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Mmm ok, doesn't explain the case of Alicia's match but for Katu it can.
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I think we should wait for confirmation on the IPL challonge site before we can confirm if Stephano is winning or not.
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France7248 Posts
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Terrible observers..
edit : they just missed a battle in hero's 3rd
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Get out Napchio 
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Nerchio should have had the watch tower to see that attack coming.
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ahah Nerchio
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Austria24417 Posts
Lol get out Nerchio
This is the exact same build HerO developed for PL. The win Nerchio got was from a gamble build and he complains about a "cheap win". Rofl.
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France7248 Posts
"gg pro" lol
he will never change
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Austria24417 Posts
Oooooh I hope Puma wins. Blast to the past.
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On February 14 2013 05:23 Yhamm wrote:
"gg pro" lol
he will never change
yea, but gotta remember he is just a little kid. It's more his parents' fault than his own.
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I find myself trying to respect Nerchio for his playstyle and how successful he is, but things like this just turn me off. How was that a "cheap win" when HerO completely dissected his play and won it "fairly"? Maybe because I'm not a progamer I won't understand the frustration of losing out on two qualifiers (MLG and now IPL) and on FC, but really, be a bit more mannered.
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On February 14 2013 05:25 FollowKronborg wrote:yea, but gotta remember he is just a little kid. It's more his parents' fault than his own.
a little kid? he's 20 and older than most of koreans players
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Austria24417 Posts
Yessssssssssss Puma won. HerO vs Puma, so 2011 :D
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On February 14 2013 05:26 Yhamm wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 05:25 FollowKronborg wrote:On February 14 2013 05:23 Yhamm wrote:
"gg pro" lol
he will never change yea, but gotta remember he is just a little kid. It's more his parents' fault than his own. a little kid? he's 20 and older than most of koreans players
just because you are eighteen doesn't mean you are an adult, you have to have the mentality of one as well, and for some people that doesn't come for a long time past 18.
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On February 14 2013 05:25 PhoenixVoid wrote:
I find myself trying to respect Nerchio for his playstyle and how successful he is, but things like this just turn me off. How was that a "cheap win" when HerO completely dissected his play and won it "fairly"? Maybe because I'm not a progamer I won't understand the frustration of losing out on two qualifiers (MLG and now IPL) and on FC, but really, be a bit more mannered.
I didn't really care about advancing to both of these tours. The answer is simple and i find it funny to read all these comments that don't touch me that much. Tournaments are really bad about setting maps for certain rounds. we played on entombed and cloud kingdom which are 2 protoss favoured maps and he got outclassed on balanced map which is daybreak. What's more he used immortal all in in the last game, that's not neccessarily his problem because i agree win is a win but for me it's a cheap win.
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On February 14 2013 05:28 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 05:25 PhoenixVoid wrote:
I find myself trying to respect Nerchio for his playstyle and how successful he is, but things like this just turn me off. How was that a "cheap win" when HerO completely dissected his play and won it "fairly"? Maybe because I'm not a progamer I won't understand the frustration of losing out on two qualifiers (MLG and now IPL) and on FC, but really, be a bit more mannered. I didn't really care about advancing to both of these tours. The answer is simple and i find it funny to read all these comments that don't touch me that much. Tournaments are really bad about setting maps for certain rounds. we played on entombed and cloud kingdom which are 2 protoss favoured maps and he got outclassed on balanced map which is daybreak. What's more he used immortal all in in the last game, that's not neccessarily his problem because i agree win is a win but for me it's a cheap win.
no such thing as a cheap win in competition.
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I am fairly sure Nerchio was joking with that last comment. I mean he made one at the end of every game and they were just playful, Hero even gave a smiley face.
edit: nvm just read nerchios comment.
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On February 14 2013 05:28 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 05:25 PhoenixVoid wrote:
I find myself trying to respect Nerchio for his playstyle and how successful he is, but things like this just turn me off. How was that a "cheap win" when HerO completely dissected his play and won it "fairly"? Maybe because I'm not a progamer I won't understand the frustration of losing out on two qualifiers (MLG and now IPL) and on FC, but really, be a bit more mannered. I didn't really care about advancing to both of these tours. The answer is simple and i find it funny to read all these comments that don't touch me that much. Tournaments are really bad about setting maps for certain rounds. we played on entombed and cloud kingdom which are 2 protoss favoured maps and he got outclassed on balanced map which is daybreak. What's more he used immortal all in in the last game, that's not neccessarily his problem because i agree win is a win but for me it's a cheap win.
Considering the build used on Daybreak, that's pretty funny. Also he took a third base behind this and continued upgrades. He didn't all in, it was a timing attack and guess what's not gonna help you against it - drops.
He won the game because he was smarter and you misread the game + didn't scout the attack until it was at your third, basically feeding him half your army. GGWP
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Canada16217 Posts
still not updated on who won stephano vs hyun(on the ipl site) :o
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France7248 Posts
cause it's not over, 1-1 if we can trust stephano profile
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I believe you guys, Hero practices more so he deserved to win, we are on team liquid and all of you are biased. I am not gonna argue with you since opinions of spectators mean nothing to me as you have no idea about the game and mind games during the match. If you think having different opinion than the mass is not being grown up then it's up to you, i prefer to be a child forever.
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On February 14 2013 05:31 NovemberstOrm wrote:
still not updated on who won stephano vs hyun(on the ipl site) :o
Because they are still playing
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On February 14 2013 05:31 NovemberstOrm wrote:
still not updated on who won stephano vs hyun(on the ipl site) :o
I wish IPL updated their Challonge bracket more diligently. Some people don't want to snoop around accounts and press F5.
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On February 14 2013 05:32 Nerchio wrote:
I believe you guys, Hero practices more so he deserved to win, we are on team liquid and all of you are biased. I am not gonna argue with you since opinions of spectators mean nothing to me as you have no idea about the game and mind games during the match. If you think having different opinion than the mass is not being grown up then it's up to you, i prefer to be a child forever.
Which is your decision, just stop BMing players who are better than you if they beat you.
Really excited for HerO vs Puma :D
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On February 14 2013 05:28 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 05:25 PhoenixVoid wrote:
I find myself trying to respect Nerchio for his playstyle and how successful he is, but things like this just turn me off. How was that a "cheap win" when HerO completely dissected his play and won it "fairly"? Maybe because I'm not a progamer I won't understand the frustration of losing out on two qualifiers (MLG and now IPL) and on FC, but really, be a bit more mannered. I didn't really care about advancing to both of these tours. The answer is simple and i find it funny to read all these comments that don't touch me that much. Tournaments are really bad about setting maps for certain rounds. we played on entombed and cloud kingdom which are 2 protoss favoured maps and he got outclassed on balanced map which is daybreak. What's more he used immortal all in in the last game, that's not neccessarily his problem because i agree win is a win but for me it's a cheap win.
Considering the current WoL meta is Zerg favored. Not sure why you are complaining about the maps.
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On February 14 2013 05:32 Nerchio wrote:
I believe you guys, Hero practices more so he deserved to win, we are on team liquid and all of you are biased. I am not gonna argue with you since opinions of spectators mean nothing to me as you have no idea about the game and mind games during the match. If you think having different opinion than the mass is not being grown up then it's up to you, i prefer to be a child forever.
It's not about having different opinions, it's about your raging after many of your losses which makes you look bad. Seriously just quit the BM, people respect you as a player and respect your opinion. This is not about your opinion, and you know it. It's about you discrediting your opponent in pretty much every game you lose.
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On February 14 2013 05:32 Nerchio wrote:
I believe you guys, Hero practices more so he deserved to win, we are on team liquid and all of you are biased. I am not gonna argue with you since opinions of spectators mean nothing to me as you have no idea about the game and mind games during the match. If you think having different opinion than the mass is not being grown up then it's up to you, i prefer to be a child forever.
Don't expect to have people's respect anymore then.
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I wonder if he'd bm himself if he won with turtle BL/infestor.
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On February 14 2013 05:36 dani` wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 05:32 Nerchio wrote:
I believe you guys, Hero practices more so he deserved to win, we are on team liquid and all of you are biased. I am not gonna argue with you since opinions of spectators mean nothing to me as you have no idea about the game and mind games during the match. If you think having different opinion than the mass is not being grown up then it's up to you, i prefer to be a child forever. It's not about having different opinions, it's about your raging after many of your losses which makes you look bad. Seriously just quit the BM, people respect you as a player and respect your opinion. This is not about your opinion, and you know it. It's about you discrediting your opponent in pretty much every game you lose.
wut people respect him as a player and respect his opinion? since when?
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On February 14 2013 02:54 RemarK wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 02:45 metroid composite wrote:On February 13 2013 22:42 mkkillah wrote:
I guess that this "MaSsan" is better then top tier koreans? Taeja, life, bomber, herO... how is that possible if the only thing he really did is defeating EGSuppy in MLG.
this poll has some biased answers. Yeah, probably troll votes. There's better choices that could have been included as the final option in the poll like, say, Nerchio or TOP or Puma. (Incidentally, looking at the bracket, MaSsan's already been knocked out by PiG in the first round). He got a walkover, still a huge upset for PiG though, congratulations to him on this fantastic result
pig is pretty good, man
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On February 14 2013 05:38 FollowKronborg wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 05:36 dani` wrote:On February 14 2013 05:32 Nerchio wrote:
I believe you guys, Hero practices more so he deserved to win, we are on team liquid and all of you are biased. I am not gonna argue with you since opinions of spectators mean nothing to me as you have no idea about the game and mind games during the match. If you think having different opinion than the mass is not being grown up then it's up to you, i prefer to be a child forever. It's not about having different opinions, it's about your raging after many of your losses which makes you look bad. Seriously just quit the BM, people respect you as a player and respect your opinion. This is not about your opinion, and you know it. It's about you discrediting your opponent in pretty much every game you lose. wut people respect him as a player and respect his opinion? since when?
He's a good player, he knows the game better than any of us, nobody's denying that.
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On February 14 2013 05:37 NovemberstOrm wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 05:32 Nerchio wrote:
I believe you guys, Hero practices more so he deserved to win, we are on team liquid and all of you are biased. I am not gonna argue with you since opinions of spectators mean nothing to me as you have no idea about the game and mind games during the match. If you think having different opinion than the mass is not being grown up then it's up to you, i prefer to be a child forever. Don't expect to have people's respect anymore then.
I don't need your respect.
On February 14 2013 05:36 dani` wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 05:32 Nerchio wrote:
I believe you guys, Hero practices more so he deserved to win, we are on team liquid and all of you are biased. I am not gonna argue with you since opinions of spectators mean nothing to me as you have no idea about the game and mind games during the match. If you think having different opinion than the mass is not being grown up then it's up to you, i prefer to be a child forever. It's not about having different opinions, it's about your raging after many of your losses which makes you look bad. Seriously just quit the BM, people respect you as a player and respect your opinion. This is not about your opinion, and you know it. It's about you discrediting your opponent in pretty much every game you lose.
It is, cause my opinion is that perfectly executed immortal all in is unstoppable and it's been proved a lot of times. If we consider that in addition to sub-par map pool, we can say it was a cheap win. I didn't say Hero is bad either, I just said he did the strategy that would bring him easy win and there was not much i could do.
On February 14 2013 05:38 FollowKronborg wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 05:36 dani` wrote:On February 14 2013 05:32 Nerchio wrote:
I believe you guys, Hero practices more so he deserved to win, we are on team liquid and all of you are biased. I am not gonna argue with you since opinions of spectators mean nothing to me as you have no idea about the game and mind games during the match. If you think having different opinion than the mass is not being grown up then it's up to you, i prefer to be a child forever. It's not about having different opinions, it's about your raging after many of your losses which makes you look bad. Seriously just quit the BM, people respect you as a player and respect your opinion. This is not about your opinion, and you know it. It's about you discrediting your opponent in pretty much every game you lose. wut people respect him as a player and respect his opinion? since when?
Thanks to all haters like you, my life is brighter ^_^
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On February 14 2013 05:40 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 05:37 NovemberstOrm wrote:On February 14 2013 05:32 Nerchio wrote:
I believe you guys, Hero practices more so he deserved to win, we are on team liquid and all of you are biased. I am not gonna argue with you since opinions of spectators mean nothing to me as you have no idea about the game and mind games during the match. If you think having different opinion than the mass is not being grown up then it's up to you, i prefer to be a child forever. Don't expect to have people's respect anymore then. I don't need your respect. Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 05:36 dani` wrote:On February 14 2013 05:32 Nerchio wrote:
I believe you guys, Hero practices more so he deserved to win, we are on team liquid and all of you are biased. I am not gonna argue with you since opinions of spectators mean nothing to me as you have no idea about the game and mind games during the match. If you think having different opinion than the mass is not being grown up then it's up to you, i prefer to be a child forever. It's not about having different opinions, it's about your raging after many of your losses which makes you look bad. Seriously just quit the BM, people respect you as a player and respect your opinion. This is not about your opinion, and you know it. It's about you discrediting your opponent in pretty much every game you lose. It is, cause my opinion is that perfectly executed immortal all in is unstoppable and it's been proved a lot of times. If we consider that in addition to sub-par map pool, we can say it was a cheap win. I didn't say Hero is bad either, I just said he did the strategy that would bring him easy win and there was not much i could do.
It wasn't an immortal all-in. He took a third base and continued his upgrades.
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It was a timing attack after having his third delayed, which he took + continued upgrades. He just had to do some damage which is pretty easy if half your army is completely out of position + on drop tech that doesn't help at all defending an attack...
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Has your LoL account been banned again and you cant think of anything better to do with your time than to troll people here? Is that what is going on?
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On February 14 2013 05:30 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 05:28 Nerchio wrote:On February 14 2013 05:25 PhoenixVoid wrote:
I find myself trying to respect Nerchio for his playstyle and how successful he is, but things like this just turn me off. How was that a "cheap win" when HerO completely dissected his play and won it "fairly"? Maybe because I'm not a progamer I won't understand the frustration of losing out on two qualifiers (MLG and now IPL) and on FC, but really, be a bit more mannered. I didn't really care about advancing to both of these tours. The answer is simple and i find it funny to read all these comments that don't touch me that much. Tournaments are really bad about setting maps for certain rounds. we played on entombed and cloud kingdom which are 2 protoss favoured maps and he got outclassed on balanced map which is daybreak. What's more he used immortal all in in the last game, that's not neccessarily his problem because i agree win is a win but for me it's a cheap win. Considering the build used on Daybreak, that's pretty funny. Also he took a third base behind this and continued upgrades. He didn't all in, it was a timing attack and guess what's not gonna help you against it - drops. He won the game because he was smarter and you misread the game + didn't scout the attack until it was at your third, basically feeding him half your army. GGWP
He didn't scout, that's true, but he was gearing up for an attack so it's not like he was caught droning without any army; he actually had a pretty large army, which was admittedly lucky given the lack of scouting.
Are you suggesting things would have gone significantly different with scouting? What would he have done differently? Cancel drop research so that he could make four more roaches?
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On February 14 2013 05:44 metroid composite wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 05:30 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 14 2013 05:28 Nerchio wrote:On February 14 2013 05:25 PhoenixVoid wrote:
I find myself trying to respect Nerchio for his playstyle and how successful he is, but things like this just turn me off. How was that a "cheap win" when HerO completely dissected his play and won it "fairly"? Maybe because I'm not a progamer I won't understand the frustration of losing out on two qualifiers (MLG and now IPL) and on FC, but really, be a bit more mannered. I didn't really care about advancing to both of these tours. The answer is simple and i find it funny to read all these comments that don't touch me that much. Tournaments are really bad about setting maps for certain rounds. we played on entombed and cloud kingdom which are 2 protoss favoured maps and he got outclassed on balanced map which is daybreak. What's more he used immortal all in in the last game, that's not neccessarily his problem because i agree win is a win but for me it's a cheap win. Considering the build used on Daybreak, that's pretty funny. Also he took a third base behind this and continued upgrades. He didn't all in, it was a timing attack and guess what's not gonna help you against it - drops. He won the game because he was smarter and you misread the game + didn't scout the attack until it was at your third, basically feeding him half your army. GGWP He didn't scout, that's true, but he was gearing up for an attack so it's not like he was caught droning without any army; he actually had a pretty large army, which was admittedly lucky given the lack of scouting. Are you suggesting things would have gone significantly different with scouting? What would he have done differently? Cancel drop research so that he could make four more roaches?
Not get drop tech if the third is that late but use the infestation pit he had finished.
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On February 14 2013 05:44 metroid composite wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 05:30 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 14 2013 05:28 Nerchio wrote:On February 14 2013 05:25 PhoenixVoid wrote:
I find myself trying to respect Nerchio for his playstyle and how successful he is, but things like this just turn me off. How was that a "cheap win" when HerO completely dissected his play and won it "fairly"? Maybe because I'm not a progamer I won't understand the frustration of losing out on two qualifiers (MLG and now IPL) and on FC, but really, be a bit more mannered. I didn't really care about advancing to both of these tours. The answer is simple and i find it funny to read all these comments that don't touch me that much. Tournaments are really bad about setting maps for certain rounds. we played on entombed and cloud kingdom which are 2 protoss favoured maps and he got outclassed on balanced map which is daybreak. What's more he used immortal all in in the last game, that's not neccessarily his problem because i agree win is a win but for me it's a cheap win. Considering the build used on Daybreak, that's pretty funny. Also he took a third base behind this and continued upgrades. He didn't all in, it was a timing attack and guess what's not gonna help you against it - drops. He won the game because he was smarter and you misread the game + didn't scout the attack until it was at your third, basically feeding him half your army. GGWP He didn't scout, that's true, but he was gearing up for an attack so it's not like he was caught droning without any army; he actually had a pretty large army, which was admittedly lucky given the lack of scouting. Are you suggesting things would have gone significantly different with scouting? What would he have done differently? Cancel drop research so that he could make four more roaches?
You are a boss.
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HyuN defeats Stephano 2-1!
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do my eyes deceive me? did puma really beat hack? HES BACK
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Holy shit HerO's upgrades
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Stephano loses 2-1 to Hyun
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On February 14 2013 05:48 partydude89 wrote:
do my eyes deceive me? did puma really beat hack? HES BACK
Either that or Hack is just completely collapsing at the end of WoL. 0-6 exit from the GSL
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Sigh, until the end, Stephano's ZvZ, hopefully it will be better in Hots!
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Dammit Stephano ! Hope he'll be among the 2 invited players, given IPL gave 5 seeds to korean players.
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HyuN faces the winner of HerO vs PuMa. I've always wanted to see HyuN vs HerO, so I'm hoping HerO wins.
On February 14 2013 05:50 Boucot wrote:
Dammit Stephano ! Hope he'll be among the 2 invited players, given IPL gave 5 seeds to korean players.
Knowing IPL, they will do anything to get Stephano into their tournaments, so I suspect a seed will be given to him.
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On February 14 2013 05:44 metroid composite wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 05:30 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 14 2013 05:28 Nerchio wrote:On February 14 2013 05:25 PhoenixVoid wrote:
I find myself trying to respect Nerchio for his playstyle and how successful he is, but things like this just turn me off. How was that a "cheap win" when HerO completely dissected his play and won it "fairly"? Maybe because I'm not a progamer I won't understand the frustration of losing out on two qualifiers (MLG and now IPL) and on FC, but really, be a bit more mannered. I didn't really care about advancing to both of these tours. The answer is simple and i find it funny to read all these comments that don't touch me that much. Tournaments are really bad about setting maps for certain rounds. we played on entombed and cloud kingdom which are 2 protoss favoured maps and he got outclassed on balanced map which is daybreak. What's more he used immortal all in in the last game, that's not neccessarily his problem because i agree win is a win but for me it's a cheap win. Considering the build used on Daybreak, that's pretty funny. Also he took a third base behind this and continued upgrades. He didn't all in, it was a timing attack and guess what's not gonna help you against it - drops. He won the game because he was smarter and you misread the game + didn't scout the attack until it was at your third, basically feeding him half your army. GGWP He didn't scout, that's true, but he was gearing up for an attack so it's not like he was caught droning without any army; he actually had a pretty large army, which was admittedly lucky given the lack of scouting. Are you suggesting things would have gone significantly different with scouting? What would he have done differently? Cancel drop research so that he could make four more roaches?
He did have a decently sized army, and then he sacced half of it trying to defend his third because he didn't notice the attack until it was right at his door step. He was really caught off guard and he never had the opportunity to fight hero with his full force because he scouted it too late, and would have lost his third anyway if he pulled back.
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Oh wow Puma beasting it up , some sick snipes
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Guys, guys. Is PuMa back?
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Puma playing well! Play this well in Proleague please!
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my god this game...
HerO has lots of mins saved up so he should be fine
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This PuMa HerO game 1 is so amazing so far wow
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ye sick game - if HerO was not in such a good spot economy wise, Puma's great control would have won him the game O_o
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PuMa's macro couldn't sustain another army I guess. Great TvP though, brings me back to their epic rivalry when both were at the top of their game.
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gg Puma! Better luck next game
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too bad puma didnt kill that 5th
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On February 14 2013 05:51 PhoenixVoid wrote:HyuN faces the winner of HerO vs PuMa. I've always wanted to see HyuN vs HerO, so I'm hoping HerO wins. Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 05:50 Boucot wrote:
Dammit Stephano ! Hope he'll be among the 2 invited players, given IPL gave 5 seeds to korean players. Knowing IPL, they will do anything to get Stephano into their tournaments, so I suspect a seed will be given to him.
I forgot about the IPTL thing. If EG beats IM in semifinals (hard but doable), they'll probably send him to Las Vegas.
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Aaaaaawesome game, super aggressive from both. So 2011!
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On February 14 2013 06:00 kju wrote:
111 next?
you read my mind
1ts a pre11y good build.
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Imagine a game that had WonWonWon vs 1/1/1.
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On February 14 2013 06:04 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Imagine a game that had WonWonWon vs 1/1/1.
and then the world exploded.
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This is such a great series. I wish this would be extended to Bo7.
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I'm still surprised PuMa is still mining off one base.
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Ok so the Raven decides this game. If Puma loses it, he loses the game.
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ROFL HERO MISSES THE RAVEN.
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LOL HerO let the Raven live!
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UGH, I'm a huge liquid fan but I can't cheer for Puma even when he plays proleague. Guy fucking refuses to expand, it's unbelievable, minute 20 still nothing.
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Now this is where Terran excels at base trades-the energy advantage.
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As far as stupid base race matches go that was one of funnier.
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These two just create the best TvPs ever.
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On February 14 2013 06:19 PhoenixVoid wrote:
These two just create the best TvPs ever.
I can't quite agree with that (Namely early 2011 parting) but the two always seem to make for interesting stuff.
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On February 14 2013 06:21 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 06:19 PhoenixVoid wrote:
These two just create the best TvPs ever. I can't quite agree with that (Namely early 2011 parting) but the two always seem to make for interesting stuff.
Early 2011? ._.
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On February 14 2013 05:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 05:44 metroid composite wrote:On February 14 2013 05:30 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 14 2013 05:28 Nerchio wrote:On February 14 2013 05:25 PhoenixVoid wrote:
I find myself trying to respect Nerchio for his playstyle and how successful he is, but things like this just turn me off. How was that a "cheap win" when HerO completely dissected his play and won it "fairly"? Maybe because I'm not a progamer I won't understand the frustration of losing out on two qualifiers (MLG and now IPL) and on FC, but really, be a bit more mannered. I didn't really care about advancing to both of these tours. The answer is simple and i find it funny to read all these comments that don't touch me that much. Tournaments are really bad about setting maps for certain rounds. we played on entombed and cloud kingdom which are 2 protoss favoured maps and he got outclassed on balanced map which is daybreak. What's more he used immortal all in in the last game, that's not neccessarily his problem because i agree win is a win but for me it's a cheap win. Considering the build used on Daybreak, that's pretty funny. Also he took a third base behind this and continued upgrades. He didn't all in, it was a timing attack and guess what's not gonna help you against it - drops. He won the game because he was smarter and you misread the game + didn't scout the attack until it was at your third, basically feeding him half your army. GGWP He didn't scout, that's true, but he was gearing up for an attack so it's not like he was caught droning without any army; he actually had a pretty large army, which was admittedly lucky given the lack of scouting. Are you suggesting things would have gone significantly different with scouting? What would he have done differently? Cancel drop research so that he could make four more roaches? Not get drop tech if the third is that late but use the infestation pit he had finished.
The general rule is that you can't go infestors and expect to hold your third base against a 2-base army.
Even when zergs go two base rush to infestor tech, they need about 10 spine crawlers to turtle if a sentry immortal comes, because lair->infestation pit->pathogen glands->infestors takes about four minutes, so even a two-base tech rushing zerg won't get infestors out till about the 10 minute mark. With a 3 hatch build it's usually gas at 6 minutes, infestors would not be out till about the 11 minute mark. Going infestors would almost certainly mean saccing his third against any kind of 9-10 minute aggression. And if he did do that, then he's a 2 base zerg against a 3 base toss (so he's basically lost).
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On February 14 2013 06:23 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 06:21 Fusilero wrote:On February 14 2013 06:19 PhoenixVoid wrote:
These two just create the best TvPs ever. I can't quite agree with that (Namely early 2011 parting) but the two always seem to make for interesting stuff. Early 2011? ._.
Well when his TvP was the most wild against jjakji or MKP. It's not quite as mindblowing as it was back then it was definitely the peak of PartinGvT at that point.
It may be more a case of less terrans and his PvTs becoming more common that dulled me to his PvT these days though :p
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On February 14 2013 06:24 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 06:23 Zealously wrote:On February 14 2013 06:21 Fusilero wrote:On February 14 2013 06:19 PhoenixVoid wrote:
These two just create the best TvPs ever. I can't quite agree with that (Namely early 2011 parting) but the two always seem to make for interesting stuff. Early 2011? ._. Well when his TvP was the most wild against jjakji or MKP. It's not quite as mindblowing as it was back then it was definitely the peak of PartinGvT at that point. It may be more a case of less terrans and his PvTs becoming more common that dulled me to his PvT these days though :p
early 2012 :p
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On February 14 2013 06:26 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 06:24 Fusilero wrote:On February 14 2013 06:23 Zealously wrote:On February 14 2013 06:21 Fusilero wrote:On February 14 2013 06:19 PhoenixVoid wrote:
These two just create the best TvPs ever. I can't quite agree with that (Namely early 2011 parting) but the two always seem to make for interesting stuff. Early 2011? ._. Well when his TvP was the most wild against jjakji or MKP. It's not quite as mindblowing as it was back then it was definitely the peak of PartinGvT at that point. It may be more a case of less terrans and his PvTs becoming more common that dulled me to his PvT these days though :p early 2012 :p
I'M JUST THAT HIPSTER I KNEW HIM BEFORE HE WAS A PROGAMER
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On February 14 2013 06:26 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 06:26 opterown wrote:On February 14 2013 06:24 Fusilero wrote:On February 14 2013 06:23 Zealously wrote:On February 14 2013 06:21 Fusilero wrote:On February 14 2013 06:19 PhoenixVoid wrote:
These two just create the best TvPs ever. I can't quite agree with that (Namely early 2011 parting) but the two always seem to make for interesting stuff. Early 2011? ._. Well when his TvP was the most wild against jjakji or MKP. It's not quite as mindblowing as it was back then it was definitely the peak of PartinGvT at that point. It may be more a case of less terrans and his PvTs becoming more common that dulled me to his PvT these days though :p early 2012 :p I'M JUST THAT HIPSTER I KNEW HIM BEFORE HE WAS A PROGAMER
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/3955_WonLeeSak/games
2010 parting man
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On February 14 2013 06:27 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 06:26 Fusilero wrote:On February 14 2013 06:26 opterown wrote:On February 14 2013 06:24 Fusilero wrote:On February 14 2013 06:23 Zealously wrote:On February 14 2013 06:21 Fusilero wrote:On February 14 2013 06:19 PhoenixVoid wrote:
These two just create the best TvPs ever. I can't quite agree with that (Namely early 2011 parting) but the two always seem to make for interesting stuff. Early 2011? ._. Well when his TvP was the most wild against jjakji or MKP. It's not quite as mindblowing as it was back then it was definitely the peak of PartinGvT at that point. It may be more a case of less terrans and his PvTs becoming more common that dulled me to his PvT these days though :p early 2012 :p I'M JUST THAT HIPSTER I KNEW HIM BEFORE HE WAS A PROGAMER http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/3955_WonLeeSak/games2010 parting man
Yeah I totally saw that match live it was like the best PvZ ever.
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On February 14 2013 06:29 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 06:27 opterown wrote:On February 14 2013 06:26 Fusilero wrote:On February 14 2013 06:26 opterown wrote:On February 14 2013 06:24 Fusilero wrote:On February 14 2013 06:23 Zealously wrote:On February 14 2013 06:21 Fusilero wrote:On February 14 2013 06:19 PhoenixVoid wrote:
These two just create the best TvPs ever. I can't quite agree with that (Namely early 2011 parting) but the two always seem to make for interesting stuff. Early 2011? ._. Well when his TvP was the most wild against jjakji or MKP. It's not quite as mindblowing as it was back then it was definitely the peak of PartinGvT at that point. It may be more a case of less terrans and his PvTs becoming more common that dulled me to his PvT these days though :p early 2012 :p I'M JUST THAT HIPSTER I KNEW HIM BEFORE HE WAS A PROGAMER http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/3955_WonLeeSak/games2010 parting man Yeah I totally saw that match live it was like the best PvZ ever.
Unknown is my favorite community map. Too bad it never caught on
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Revival beat Snute 2-1. Upcoming matches are:
Revival vs aLive
HyuN vs HerO/PuMa
Losers of the Ro4 matches face off against each other for the last spot.
Sure a lot of ex-TSL players here.
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Holy shit Puma, WHY NOT IN PL
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Looks like this will be a TSL reunion I predict in favour of the zergs though.
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On February 14 2013 06:36 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Holy shit Puma, WHY NOT IN PL
Yeah, it's pretty sad
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On February 14 2013 06:37 Boucot wrote:
Looks like PuMa's back.
Naw, got away with an incredibly greedy build that last game and the usual 1/1/1 all in game 2.
He'll still be lucky to get wins in PL
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On February 14 2013 06:37 Asha` wrote:Naw, got away with an incredibly greedy build and the usual 1/1/1 all in.
And most terrans will win when you leave your HTs out of position that brutally.
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PuMa played well, but HerO threw this game so hard when he move commanded 2 colossi into PuMa's army after PuMa failed to do any damage at HerO's 3rd. When HerO tried to push afterwards he had only 1 colossus and couldn't do anything. If he'd had 3 he'd have steamrolled PuMa since he had almost no vikings.
That was painful to watch, especially after he'd microed so well at his 3rd at first.
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On February 14 2013 06:36 Fusilero wrote:
Looks like this will be a TSL reunion I predict in favour of the zergs though.
Probably, aLive's TvZ is still weak, and I doubt PuMa can defeat HyuN. If the bracket works out as I predict, HyuN and Revival finals for the umpteenth time in an online tournament (HyuN has the way better record recently, something like 7-0).
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Oh also the stargate metagame didn't work out at all, lol
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4 TSL players
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So the semi's are in 2 hours?
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On February 14 2013 06:40 sashkata wrote:
So the semi's are in 2 hours?
I'm not sure, considering IPL shows the Ro4 matches as replays on a later stream traditionally.
Nevermind, the Ro4 matches are being shown at 7PM EST.
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On February 14 2013 06:24 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 06:23 Zealously wrote:On February 14 2013 06:21 Fusilero wrote:On February 14 2013 06:19 PhoenixVoid wrote:
These two just create the best TvPs ever. I can't quite agree with that (Namely early 2011 parting) but the two always seem to make for interesting stuff. Early 2011? ._. Well when his TvP was the most wild against jjakji or MKP. It's not quite as mindblowing as it was back then it was definitely the peak of PartinGvT at that point. It may be more a case of less terrans and his PvTs becoming more common that dulled me to his PvT these days though :p
I remember one game on Antiga Shipyard, PartinG vs jjakji. Was one of the best games that season IIRC, very back and forth. Both of them was kind of best in the world in the matchup (jjakji maybe behind MarineKing). Really sick game.
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Puma is playing very well, but he got kind of a lucky bracket with only Terran and Protoss. His TvZ has always been weak and I can't see him beating Hyun. Hoping for a Puma vs Revival final!!!
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soo many walkovers GL Hyun
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WOOOOOOO PUMA!!!! Get some!
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Ahh, aLive TvZ strikes again.
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Is HyuN seriously still on 44 Drones at the 21 minute mark?
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Not going to miss WoL Zerg.
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who won Revival Vs Alive?
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On February 14 2013 10:16 partydude89 wrote:
who won Revival Vs Alive?
Revival 2-0.
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It pains me seeing TSL players doing well when the team is nonexistent :/
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Oh man... Alive... woops.
Edit - for those who may have missed it, Puma went proxy 11/11 behind the natural, Alive went to scout and was 1 hex away from seeing it but dashed away.
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Hey IPL long time fan here just wondering if you're ever going to mix up your standby(ads in progress) music...seems like its been the same loop for a long time!
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Noooo PuMa
So close to qualifying, if he had just protected his last CC he could have protected it and won...
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I wonder if aLive has found a new team. Because this qualifier doesn't get travel paid.
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NOOOOO alive lost to puma. I wonder if alive can pay for ticket though, no team. perhaps will give it up to puma? :D :D :D
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everyone is bolded in the OP! what does this mean!? everyone won?
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On February 14 2013 14:15 Shellshock1122 wrote:
everyone is bolded in the OP! what does this mean!? everyone won?
Excuse me? I looked at the OP over an hour ago and all the results were updated. They still are...
+ Show Spoiler +Revival won 2-0
HyuN won 2-0
and aLive won 2-1
Idk what you guys are talking about...
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On February 14 2013 15:01 Shinta) wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 14:15 Shellshock1122 wrote:
everyone is bolded in the OP! what does this mean!? everyone won? Excuse me? I looked at the OP over an hour ago and all the results were updated. They still are... + Show Spoiler +Revival won 2-0
HyuN won 2-0
and aLive won 2-1 Idk what you guys are talking about...
when I click quote it's fine for me but when I look at it normally for some reason everything is bolded in all the results
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On February 14 2013 15:04 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 15:01 Shinta) wrote:On February 14 2013 14:15 Shellshock1122 wrote:
everyone is bolded in the OP! what does this mean!? everyone won? Excuse me? I looked at the OP over an hour ago and all the results were updated. They still are... + Show Spoiler +Revival won 2-0
HyuN won 2-0
and aLive won 2-1 Idk what you guys are talking about... when I click quote it's fine for me but when I look at it normally for some reason everything is bolded in all the results
they messed up the tags dw it's not just you
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I guess they all won, then!
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I just realized MaSsan graduated from my university. Guess I'll have to cheer him on for being a badass
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Good job aLive
Show them suckers, who is the TvT boss
2-0 TaeJa
2-1 PuMa
I hope a KeSPa team picks him up, they would most likely be able to get his ticket paid
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Not sure if it's the right thread, didn't follow the whole tourny, but on IGNProleague's Stream right now (rebroadcast) Illusion's ghost play against Scarlett is fucking insane
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