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On January 19 2013 22:01 WarrickHunt wrote:
Dat f***in crowd man, SC2 is dying
Also, how come IEM can pull in audiences like that but no American events even get close...
Don't know, but the events in europe are usually pretty much sold out.
The EWM finals are sold out, the IEM is sold out according to some people on reddit, and on the gamescom(cologne) the SC2 and LoL tourneys have been completely crowded even in the early stages the last 2 years.
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On January 19 2013 21:58 SpikeStarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2013 21:54 furo wrote:
is it just me or are alot of ppl watching already?
26k+4.5k+3.3k+3k+800+100 = 37.7k
kinda big if you consider the viewer numbers of december well if i see that the lol stream has 120-150k easily and sc2 events used to have 50-65k it doesnt feel like that much.
Compare the player base.
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Battle for best terran living in Europe?
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On January 19 2013 22:01 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2013 22:00 Confuse wrote:
Hoping Lucifron takes this set, Kas is great but I can't approve of his child labor methods on himself as training : / Of course, this is just a generalization based on what I know of these two guys. you can't cheer a guy who trains like a madman or there is sthg else ?
Basically  I think of SC2 as a thinking man's game; I'd prefer if training was accompanied by intelligent analysis/understanding rather then pushing oneself to the mechanical limit. Again this is just a generalization; when I think about it, I'm sure Kas puts thought and care into his training, but again this is all I know about these two players; that Lucifron is part time and Kas overtrains himself. Based on that alone I am rooting for Lucifron.
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On January 19 2013 22:06 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2013 22:03 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On January 19 2013 22:01 WarrickHunt wrote:
Dat f***in crowd man, SC2 is dying
Also, how come IEM can pull in audiences like that but no American events even get close... If I'm not mistaken, attendance is free for this event? (i.e no tickets) and there's more games than sc2
Unlike MLG, NASL or IPL.... oh wait... 
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On January 19 2013 21:58 SpikeStarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2013 21:54 furo wrote:
is it just me or are alot of ppl watching already?
26k+4.5k+3.3k+3k+800+100 = 37.7k
kinda big if you consider the viewer numbers of december well if i see that the lol stream has 120-150k easily and sc2 events used to have 50-65k it doesnt feel like that much.
i think we will peak > 50k or even > 60k if its not a korean korean final, IEM expected 30k peaks
so i'm really surprised and happy
we cant/and should not compare us to lol
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On January 19 2013 22:06 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2013 22:03 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On January 19 2013 22:01 WarrickHunt wrote:
Dat f***in crowd man, SC2 is dying
Also, how come IEM can pull in audiences like that but no American events even get close... If I'm not mistaken, attendance is free for this event? (i.e no tickets) and there's more games than sc2
Yeah, there's also League and they have some strong teams attending, both Azubu's, fnatic, ex-m5.
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On January 19 2013 22:08 Confuse wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2013 22:01 sAsImre wrote:On January 19 2013 22:00 Confuse wrote:
Hoping Lucifron takes this set, Kas is great but I can't approve of his child labor methods on himself as training : / Of course, this is just a generalization based on what I know of these two guys. you can't cheer a guy who trains like a madman or there is sthg else ? Basically I think of SC2 as a thinking man's game; I'd prefer if training was accompanied by intelligent analysis/understanding rather then pushing oneself to the mechanical limit. Again this is just a generalization; when I think about it, I'm sure Kas puts thought and care into his training, but again this is all I know about these two players; that Lucifron is part time and Kas overtrains himself. Based on that alone I am rooting for Lucifron.
so you hate hard-workers and prefer talented people? that's interesting.
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On January 19 2013 22:08 True_Spike wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2013 21:58 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On January 19 2013 21:54 furo wrote:
is it just me or are alot of ppl watching already?
26k+4.5k+3.3k+3k+800+100 = 37.7k
kinda big if you consider the viewer numbers of december well if i see that the lol stream has 120-150k easily and sc2 events used to have 50-65k it doesnt feel like that much. Compare the player base.
i dont know anything about the lol player base, would you mind comparing it for me? because i dont know what your point is.
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there going to be people who are new, who will have neever seen a Forgiener vs Forgiener TvT..... Back when i were a lad, GomTvT.... Creavas... those were the days.
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On January 19 2013 22:08 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Battle for best terran living in Europe?
Technically yes, but they're so close in skill atm that it doesn't really say much about the whole thing, no matter who wins.
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On January 19 2013 22:10 SpikeStarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2013 22:08 True_Spike wrote:On January 19 2013 21:58 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On January 19 2013 21:54 furo wrote:
is it just me or are alot of ppl watching already?
26k+4.5k+3.3k+3k+800+100 = 37.7k
kinda big if you consider the viewer numbers of december well if i see that the lol stream has 120-150k easily and sc2 events used to have 50-65k it doesnt feel like that much. Compare the player base. i dont know anything about the lol player base, would you mind comparing it for me? because i dont know what your point is.
There are 32 million active lol players. Compare that to sc2
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On January 19 2013 22:10 SpikeStarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2013 22:08 True_Spike wrote:On January 19 2013 21:58 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On January 19 2013 21:54 furo wrote:
is it just me or are alot of ppl watching already?
26k+4.5k+3.3k+3k+800+100 = 37.7k
kinda big if you consider the viewer numbers of december well if i see that the lol stream has 120-150k easily and sc2 events used to have 50-65k it doesnt feel like that much. Compare the player base. i dont know anything about the lol player base, would you mind comparing it for me? because i dont know what your point is.
60 (?) million lol accounts, 30 million active players. Sc2 has 500k accounts
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On January 19 2013 22:10 bokchoi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2013 22:08 Confuse wrote:On January 19 2013 22:01 sAsImre wrote:On January 19 2013 22:00 Confuse wrote:
Hoping Lucifron takes this set, Kas is great but I can't approve of his child labor methods on himself as training : / Of course, this is just a generalization based on what I know of these two guys. you can't cheer a guy who trains like a madman or there is sthg else ? Basically I think of SC2 as a thinking man's game; I'd prefer if training was accompanied by intelligent analysis/understanding rather then pushing oneself to the mechanical limit. Again this is just a generalization; when I think about it, I'm sure Kas puts thought and care into his training, but again this is all I know about these two players; that Lucifron is part time and Kas overtrains himself. Based on that alone I am rooting for Lucifron. so you hate hard-workers and prefer talented people? that's interesting.
Way to cheaply generalize what he says in order to make him look bad :/
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On January 19 2013 22:10 SpikeStarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2013 22:08 True_Spike wrote:On January 19 2013 21:58 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On January 19 2013 21:54 furo wrote:
is it just me or are alot of ppl watching already?
26k+4.5k+3.3k+3k+800+100 = 37.7k
kinda big if you consider the viewer numbers of december well if i see that the lol stream has 120-150k easily and sc2 events used to have 50-65k it doesnt feel like that much. Compare the player base. i dont know anything about the lol player base, would you mind comparing it for me? because i dont know what your point is.
Lol = Higher player base = Higher viewership
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On January 19 2013 22:08 Confuse wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2013 22:01 sAsImre wrote:On January 19 2013 22:00 Confuse wrote:
Hoping Lucifron takes this set, Kas is great but I can't approve of his child labor methods on himself as training : / Of course, this is just a generalization based on what I know of these two guys. you can't cheer a guy who trains like a madman or there is sthg else ? Basically I think of SC2 as a thinking man's game; I'd prefer if training was accompanied by intelligent analysis/understanding rather then pushing oneself to the mechanical limit. Again this is just a generalization; when I think about it, I'm sure Kas puts thought and care into his training, but again this is all I know about these two players; that Lucifron is part time and Kas overtrains himself. Based on that alone I am rooting for Lucifron.
Is Lucifron still part time ?
Also to each there own, i can respect Kas alot for he is willing to put all the time he has in the game, he might not be gods gift to Sc2 strat wise, but man do i respect his workethic.
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On January 19 2013 22:10 SpikeStarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2013 22:08 True_Spike wrote:On January 19 2013 21:58 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On January 19 2013 21:54 furo wrote:
is it just me or are alot of ppl watching already?
26k+4.5k+3.3k+3k+800+100 = 37.7k
kinda big if you consider the viewer numbers of december well if i see that the lol stream has 120-150k easily and sc2 events used to have 50-65k it doesnt feel like that much. Compare the player base. i dont know anything about the lol player base, would you mind comparing it for me? because i dont know what your point is.
LoL is the biggest game in the world at the moment.
But i still think SC2 is the best game to watch^^
http://blogs-images.forbes.com/jasonevangelho/files/2012/10/League-of-Legends-infographic.jpg
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On January 19 2013 22:12 Lysanias wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2013 22:08 Confuse wrote:On January 19 2013 22:01 sAsImre wrote:On January 19 2013 22:00 Confuse wrote:
Hoping Lucifron takes this set, Kas is great but I can't approve of his child labor methods on himself as training : / Of course, this is just a generalization based on what I know of these two guys. you can't cheer a guy who trains like a madman or there is sthg else ? Basically I think of SC2 as a thinking man's game; I'd prefer if training was accompanied by intelligent analysis/understanding rather then pushing oneself to the mechanical limit. Again this is just a generalization; when I think about it, I'm sure Kas puts thought and care into his training, but again this is all I know about these two players; that Lucifron is part time and Kas overtrains himself. Based on that alone I am rooting for Lucifron. Is Lucifron still part time ? Also to each there own, i can respect Kas alot for he is willing to put all the time he has in the game, he might not be gods gift to Sc2 strat wise, but man do i respect his workethic.
I think the Duran brothers only play full-time during the summer (can someone confirm?). School and whatnot. :/
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On January 19 2013 22:13 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2013 22:12 Lysanias wrote:On January 19 2013 22:08 Confuse wrote:On January 19 2013 22:01 sAsImre wrote:On January 19 2013 22:00 Confuse wrote:
Hoping Lucifron takes this set, Kas is great but I can't approve of his child labor methods on himself as training : / Of course, this is just a generalization based on what I know of these two guys. you can't cheer a guy who trains like a madman or there is sthg else ? Basically I think of SC2 as a thinking man's game; I'd prefer if training was accompanied by intelligent analysis/understanding rather then pushing oneself to the mechanical limit. Again this is just a generalization; when I think about it, I'm sure Kas puts thought and care into his training, but again this is all I know about these two players; that Lucifron is part time and Kas overtrains himself. Based on that alone I am rooting for Lucifron. Is Lucifron still part time ? Also to each there own, i can respect Kas alot for he is willing to put all the time he has in the game, he might not be gods gift to Sc2 strat wise, but man do i respect his workethic. I think the Duran brothers only play full-time during the summer (can someone confirm?). School and whatnot. :/
Currently yes, but Lucifron will go full-time after this semester I think.
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Is there anyone in Germany, or more closely Lower Saxony that can watch the twitch stream at 720p or more without having video lag every now and then?
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