Honestly, I feel like balance has more to do with this than skill. Ultralisks are really, really strong right now, and Beasty doesn't do a lot of all-ins, so I see Machine taking this 4-1.

ROOTCatZ

Peru1232 Posts

January 21 2013 18:58 GMT

#22

On January 22 2013 03:45 BronzeKnee wrote:
Honestly, I feel like balance has more to do with this than skill. Ultralisks are really, really strong right now, and Beasty doesn't do a lot of all-ins, so I see Machine taking this 4-1.

i'm guessing if you honestly think that Z > T atm in hots, your name is likely after the league you play in.

BronzeKnee

United States5222 Posts

January 21 2013 19:05 GMT

#23

On January 22 2013 03:58 ROOTCatZ wrote:

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i'm guessing if you honestly think that Z > T atm in hots, your name is likely after the league you play in.

No. I am a Masters Protoss player. I've even played Beasty on ladder.

But my opinion is based on the limited watching of streams (Idra, Dragon and Thorzain when he streamed HOTS). So I'm almost completely ignorant regarding HOTS TvZ anyway, but it seems that late game Zerg has a nice advantage with Vipers and Ultras, they just have to get there. And Beasty doesn't all-in much and Machine is a very solid player. We'll see what happens.

OrD_SC2

United States247 Posts

January 21 2013 19:54 GMT

#24

So CatZ, you're saying that you'd expect to lose to Beasty were you in Machine's place?

Musicus

Germany23579 Posts

January 21 2013 20:15 GMT

#25

On January 22 2013 04:54 OrD_SC2 wrote:

So CatZ, you're saying that you'd expect to lose to Beasty were you in Machine's place?

As long as Beasty (ab)uses Hellbats every zerg will lose imo.

ElPeque.fogata

Uruguay462 Posts

January 21 2013 20:15 GMT

#26

Go machine!

BronzeKnee

United States5222 Posts

January 21 2013 20:16 GMT

#27

On January 22 2013 05:15 Musicus wrote:

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As long as Beasty (ab)uses Hellbats every zerg will lose imo.

Hellbat drops on mineral lines with speedy Medivacs seem ridiculous to contend with. Was just watching Dragon try and defend them.

goswser

United States3548 Posts

January 21 2013 20:35 GMT

#28

Hellbats and widow mines are a bit overpowered now, especially when combined with the medivac speed boost. Unless machine somehow abuses hatchery tech burrow to great effect, terran should enter mid/late game with a huge advantage.

Rif_king

Canada66 Posts

January 21 2013 20:48 GMT

#29

There's a pretty sick video of tt.PiG vs cWc.Shimoon on HOTS recently
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Granted this is a "once in a while" game, but it still shows how epic late game TvZ can be on HOTS

if Machine doesn't ignore the new units and does not try to fight beasty with WOL tactics, I think he can do it, but goswser is correct, this will be an uphill battle for him =)

BasetradeTV

Canada1307 Posts

January 23 2013 09:31 GMT

#30

Machine's agreed to talk with us a bit after the show, so if you guys have anything you've been dying to ask him post it here or cross your fingers that we see it in chat after the show match. :-)

kafkaesque

Germany2006 Posts

January 23 2013 12:01 GMT

#31

Yeah machine is going to take it, I've seen him stream HotS and he seems really beastly.

PengWin_SC

Switzerland433 Posts

January 25 2013 13:58 GMT

#32

On January 23 2013 21:01 kafkaesque wrote:
Yeah machine is going to take it, I've seen him stream HotS and he seems really beastly.

So, does Machine look Beasty at the moment?

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I'm sorry please don't kill me

OrD_SC2

United States247 Posts

January 25 2013 21:22 GMT

#33

Tomorrow! Showdown at high-noon.

goswser

United States3548 Posts

January 25 2013 21:25 GMT

#34

Zerg is bad so Beasty will win unless Machine goes roach hydra, in which case he will win.

MFDoom

United States147 Posts

January 26 2013 17:23 GMT

#35

I haven't watched a whole lot of beta just yet, but this match-up definitely intrigues me - curious to see what both players have planned.. really hope machine can show good games, despite what appears to be an inherent racial disadvantage..!